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Extra trains between Bristol and Bath for Bath Christmas Market this year?
As at 5th February 2025 15:03 GMT
 
Re: Extra trains between Bristol and Bath for Bath Christmas Market this year?
Posted by Mark A at 15:17, 6th December 2024
 
Given the storm Darragh forecast, Bath Christmas Market stalls aren't opening Saturday 7th December.

Mark

https://bathchristmasmarket.co.uk/

Re: Extra trains between Bristol and Bath for Bath Christmas Market this year?
Posted by froome at 09:59, 1st December 2024
 
Bath Rugby at home to Exeter Chiefs on Saturday too (1745 ko) which I would imagine will put a fair bit of additional strain on local trains and facilities before and after the match.

I did notice that the bus stop screens in Bath were announcing earlier this week that there would be "severe disruption on Saturday due to several major events".

Re: Extra trains between Bristol and Bath for Bath Christmas Market this year?
Posted by PhilWakely at 21:35, 30th November 2024
 
Checking all those extra services on realtimetrains, I see that most of them all ran today.  The only ones cancelled were those 1142 and 1641 Bristol-Cheltenham via Swindon services.  Not too bad really.  Went better than I expected it to.  Though we'll see what it's like on the next two Saturdays.

Good for them - one has to wonder as to whether there's some sort of sacrifice elsewhere



At least Westbury station staff had the decency to annouce the provision of taxis for passengers requiring Melksham.

Re: Extra trains between Bristol and Bath for Bath Christmas Market this year?
Posted by grahame at 21:13, 30th November 2024
 
Checking all those extra services on realtimetrains, I see that most of them all ran today.  The only ones cancelled were those 1142 and 1641 Bristol-Cheltenham via Swindon services.  Not too bad really.  Went better than I expected it to.  Though we'll see what it's like on the next two Saturdays.

Good for them - one has to wonder as to whether there's some sort of sacrifice elsewhere


Re: Extra trains between Bristol and Bath for Bath Christmas Market this year?
Posted by XPT at 20:37, 30th November 2024
 
Checking all those extra services on realtimetrains, I see that most of them all ran today.  The only ones cancelled were those 1142 and 1641 Bristol-Cheltenham via Swindon services.  Not too bad really.  Went better than I expected it to.  Though we'll see what it's like on the next two Saturdays.

Re: Extra trains between Bristol and Bath for Bath Christmas Market this year?
Posted by TaplowGreen at 14:50, 29th November 2024
 
Bath Rugby at home to Exeter Chiefs on Saturday too (1745 ko) which I would imagine will put a fair bit of additional strain on local trains and facilities before and after the match.

Re: Extra trains between Bristol and Bath for Bath Christmas Market this year?
Posted by Red Squirrel at 10:21, 29th November 2024
 
I went there yesterday too. All pretty uneventful; trains were well-loaded but not overcrowded, and everything was more or less on time.

As to the Shed Show: too much mulled wine, not enough roast chestnuts in my opinion…

Re: Extra trains between Bristol and Bath for Bath Christmas Market this year?
Posted by johnneyw at 00:48, 29th November 2024
 
I did the Christmas Market on opening day yesterday 28th November.  Trains in the afternoon to Bath and back in the evening were not over full but it was not the weekend off course.  The Thursday "soft launch" seemed to be rather successful as it was busy but not unpleasantly so. 
The mulled wine vendors seemed to have significantly increased their prices this year but this perhaps is a not a subject worthy of exercising the great minds of the forum.

Re: Extra trains between Bristol and Bath for Bath Christmas Market this year?
Posted by XPT at 19:18, 27th November 2024
 
Looking through Realtimetrains for this Saturday, here are the additional services running.  The following two Saturdays may be the same, or may be slightly different.

Eastbound services
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0810 Bristol Temple Meads-Bath Spa
0924 Bristol Temple Meads-Westbury
1008 Bristol Temple Meads-Westbury
1039 Bristol Temple Meads-Swindon
1107 Bristol Temple Meads to Westbury
1142 Bristol Temple Meads to Cheltenham Spa via Swindon and Gloucester
1613 Bristol Temple Meads to Westbury
1641 Bristol Temple Meads to Cheltenham Spa via Swindon and Gloucester
1714 Bristol Temple Meads to Westbury
1742 Bristol Temple Meads to Swindon
1811 Bristol Temple Meads to Westbury
1835 Bristol Temple Meads to Swindon
1903 Bristol Temple Meads to Westbury
1932 Bristol Temple Meads to Swindon

Westbound services
----------------------

0840 Westbury to Bristol Temple Meads
0856 Westbury to Bristol Temple Meads
0934 Swindon to Bristol Temple Meads
1016 Westbury to Bristol Temple Meads
1034 Swindon to Bristol Temple Meads
1103 Westbury to Bristol Temple Meads
1133 Swindon to Weston-Super-Mare
1534 Swindon to Bristol Temple Meads
1602 Westbury to Bristol Temple Meads
1707 Westbury to Bristol Temple Meads
1717 Swindon to Bristol Temple Meads
1806 Westbury to Bristol Temple Meads
1908 Westbury to Bristol Temple Meads

Re: Extra trains between Bristol and Bath for Bath Christmas Market this year?
Posted by brooklea at 10:10, 27th November 2024

Re: Extra trains between Bristol and Bath for Bath Christmas Market this year?
Posted by grahame at 19:34, 26th November 2024
 
Possibly not, until the staffing is found for certain
Wise.

Manchester has been in the new over its handling of some aspects of their Christmas Market with people arriving at the main train stations turned round and put back onto outgoing trains.  From the Manchester Evening News

The arrival of hundreds of young people from traveller communities from all across the country to enjoy Manchester's Christmas markets has become an important date in the social calendar of those communities.

[snip]

GMP later clarified the order was 'due to intelligence' that groups of people were en route to Manchester on trains 'causing antisocial behaviour', with similar reports of trouble in the city centre already coming in.

The order was signed and the effect was that cops were dispatched to Victoria and Piccadilly railway stations under instruction to stop the groups and send them back.

Mobile footage shared widely online showed uniformed officers escorting young people into trains at Victoria, with many of them clearly unclear where exactly they were going to end up.

One girl, aged 13, who had come from Doncaster, ended up in Grimsby.

Could GWR be awaiting assurances about police behaviour.  What happens with penalty fares if the police escort people against their will  onto a train for which they don't have a ticket?

Re: Extra trains between Bristol and Bath for Bath Christmas Market this year?
Posted by Timmer at 18:54, 26th November 2024
 
Possibly not, until the staffing is found for certain
Wise.

Re: Extra trains between Bristol and Bath for Bath Christmas Market this year?
Posted by ChrisB at 15:39, 26th November 2024
 
Possibly not, until the staffing is found for certain

Re: Extra trains between Bristol and Bath for Bath Christmas Market this year?
Posted by XPT at 14:42, 26th November 2024
 
Just 2 days now before the launch of these extra services.  But they're still not loaded onto the journey planners and realtimetrains websites yet.  Are they not loaded on them until the actual days they're running?

Re: Extra trains between Bristol and Bath for Bath Christmas Market this year?
Posted by UstiImmigrunt at 15:16, 20th November 2024
 
One of my former colleagues did say to me why don't you help out?

Unfortunately I am rest day not available, out of competence and around 860 miles away.

Besides that I could assist.

Re: Extra trains between Bristol and Bath for Bath Christmas Market this year?
Posted by ray951 at 13:04, 20th November 2024
 
I will be very inserted to see how the Westbury - Swindon service fares

You *really* need to turn your predictive text off you know!
Surely the predictive text on Grahame's phone would be saying 'Not very well' 

Re: Extra trains between Bristol and Bath for Bath Christmas Market this year?
Posted by ChrisB at 10:35, 20th November 2024
 
I will be very inserted to see how the Westbury - Swindon service fares

You *really* need to turn your predictive text off you know!

Re: Extra trains between Bristol and Bath for Bath Christmas Market this year?
Posted by grahame at 10:26, 20th November 2024
 
But yes, with all this ongoing "shortage of train crew", all these extra trains/a train every 6 minutes may well not go as well as it should do!  I wouldn't be atall surprised if a number of them are cancelled.

I will be very inserted to see how the Westbury - Swindon service fares during on these Saturdays - whether GWR choose to run extra trains for there special seasonal traffic, run trains for their loyal all-year-round customers on the nearby (but not through Bath itself) line, or succeeds in doing both. They should be able to do both as this is an annual thing and they've had plenty of time in the planning.

Looking back at the press release I read out of context
GWR will operate 142 trains
and thought for a moment that we had a return of the pacers!

Re: Extra trains between Bristol and Bath for Bath Christmas Market this year?
Posted by johnneyw at 10:17, 20th November 2024
 

If you have to go to the Bath Christmas market, best go during the week. It’s awful at weekends and difficult to get anywhere near the sheds in some of the narrow streets.

I concur, although in recent years the stalls/sheds have been a little less densely packed together in the open spaces around the Abbey allowing more space for the visitors to move about. 

Edit:  As a brief aside.  Cardiff lays on quite an impressive Christmas offering in addition to the market which has become a recent favourite with some of the wider family and it's a fairly short hop from Bristol.... especially Parkway station.  I'm in the process of sorting out a visit for half a dozen of us right now.

Re: Extra trains between Bristol and Bath for Bath Christmas Market this year?
Posted by XPT at 10:16, 20th November 2024
 
Thanks Grahame.  I'll look out for when these extra services show up on the journey planners or realtimetrains.  I'm going to Bath on Saturday 14th December, though not to visit the Christmas Market(way too crowded for me).  On the journey back, I'd prefer to get on one of the extra trains that either start at Bath, Chippenham/Swindon or Westbury, rather than one of the usual services from London Paddington or Portsmouth Harbour which will already have loads of passengers already on them travelling to Bristol or beyond.

But yes, with all this ongoing "shortage of train crew", all these extra trains/a train every 6 minutes may well not go as well as it should do!  I wouldn't be atall surprised if a number of them are cancelled.

Re: Extra trains between Bristol and Bath for Bath Christmas Market this year?
Posted by Red Squirrel at 08:29, 20th November 2024
 
It could all turn into a bit of a shed-show, by the sound of it…

Re: Extra trains between Bristol and Bath for Bath Christmas Market this year?
Posted by Timmer at 07:07, 20th November 2024
 
Looking at the station boards at BTM last Saturday the question that has to be asked.

With what crew?
The end of the press release does warn of services being revised because of crew availability:

Due to crew availability on Sundays, further timetable changes may be needed; because of the late-notice changes, and the complexity of updating timetable systems, journey planners will not show changes correctly before the Sunday morning of travel.
I think it should say Saturdays as well going on the past few weeks and previous years when some Christmas market extras have been cancelled due to train crew shortages.

If you have to go to the Bath Christmas market, best go during the week. It’s awful at weekends and difficult to get anywhere near the sheds in some of the narrow streets.

Re: Extra trains between Bristol and Bath for Bath Christmas Market this year?
Posted by UstiImmigrunt at 20:24, 19th November 2024
 
Looking at the station boards at BTM last Saturday the question that has to be asked.

With what crew?

Re: Extra trains between Bristol and Bath for Bath Christmas Market this year?
Posted by grahame at 16:31, 19th November 2024
 
Press release from GWR

A train every six minutes for Bath Christmas Market Saturdays

GWR will operate 142 trains to/from Bath next Saturday, but customers reminded to expect queues at the busiest times.

A train will serve Bath Spa station every six minutes on the three Saturdays of this year’s world-famous Christmas Market taking place between Thursday 28 November and Sunday 15 December.

On top of the normal Saturday service, GWR will run an extra 21 trains stopping at Bath Spa to help shoppers get to and from the city. 

Extra trains between Bristol and Bath for Bath Christmas Market this year?
Posted by XPT at 17:20, 18th November 2024
 
The last few years GWR have put on additional trains on SATURDAYS during the period the Bath Christmas Market is on.  As often as a train every 7 minutes last year apparrently! https://news.gwr.com/news/a-train-every-seven-minutes-for-bath-christmas-market

No news about this yet from GWR.  Though I guess they might still announce it within the next few days.  Though with the ongoing "shortage of train crew" I wouldn't be surprised if they don't put on these extra trains this year!

 
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