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Cycle jam in China, breakfast dumplings, wild haggis shooting, a scarlet tanager & fake zebras (renamed topic)
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Re: Cycle jam in China, breakfast dumplings, wild haggis shooting, a scarlet tanager & fake zebras (
Posted by broadgage at 05:00, 12th December 2024
 
Thanks for the link, I had no idea how many sub-species of haggis existed.

Re: Cycle jam in China, breakfast dumplings, wild haggis shooting, a scarlet tanager & fake zebras (
Posted by Red Squirrel at 12:36, 11th December 2024
 
Those with an interest in wild haggis may find this short documentary informative. There are many more like this, from the Wild Haggis Foundation:

https://youtu.be/8oa6gjaXht8?si=AcVDwEOeuop9YuWs

Re: Cycle jam in China, breakfast dumplings, wild haggis shooting, a scarlet tanager & fake zebras (
Posted by grahame at 19:32, 23rd November 2024
 
Meanwhile today in Bristol


Re: Cycle jam in China, breakfast dumplings, wild haggis shooting, a scarlet tanager & fake zebras (
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 21:04, 17th November 2024
 
I'm now going to follow Finn's example, reacting to this particular topic:




Re: Cycle jam in China, breakfast dumplings, wild haggis shooting, a scarlet tanager & fake zebras (
Posted by grahame at 13:12, 17th November 2024
 
The much rarer Green Zebra ...




Re: Cycle jam in China, breakfast dumplings, wild haggis shooting, a scarlet tanager & fake zebras (
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 00:15, 17th November 2024
 
... I'm beginning to wish grahame hadn't started this topic ... 


Re: Cycle jam in China, breakfast dumplings, wild haggis shooting, a scarlet tanager & fake zebras (renamed topic)
Posted by broadgage at 23:32, 16th November 2024
 
I also gather that they make notoriously unsuitable household pets.

Haggis experts will be aware that the conventional right-handed haggis - with two short legs on the right of its body, suited to running round hills clockwise - is much more troublesome that the rarer left-handed variant. Left handed haggi are more or less docile.

Is this rather like the forward and inverse zebras - black on a white background is the norm rather than the rarer white on a black background.

A zoo in Egypt, lacking a zebra painted stripes on a donkey ! this fooled SOME of the people.https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-44968509
Meanwhile in Japan, a fake zebra escaped as part of an emergency drill.https://www.slate.com/blogs/atlas_obscura/2015/03/03/ueno_zoo_escaped_animal_drill_in_tokyo.html

Re: Cycle jam in China, breakfast dumplings, wild haggis shooting, a scarlet tanager & fake zebras (renamed topic)
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 20:44, 16th November 2024
 
Meanwhile, the arrival of a scarlet tanager has caused a bit of a rumpus in West Yorkshire.  From the BBC,



When news a rare American songbird had been spotted in a sleepy West Yorkshire cul-de-sac eager ornithologists converged on the quiet street faster than a falcon in free fall.

But for the long term residents of Shelf - previously only known as the home of Blue Peter presenter John Noakes and interior designer Linda Barker - the arrival of a scarlet tanager brought a spotlight on the village and a "crazy" influx of visitors.

While some complained about the parking and disruption to the bin round, others said they were excited to see the village put on the map.

"There’s been more strange people on this road in two days than in the whole of the 30 years," Peter Flesher told me.

The 82-year-old, who has lived on Bridle Dene for three decades, said most of the visitors had been respectful, though he described the excitement as “a pain in the whatsit”.

“To be fair, they’ve been nice people and they’ve not caused us any trouble," he said.  "We have two granddaughters who live over there and they were a bit perturbed by having 200 people staring at their house. But no, they were very good.”

News of the arrival of the scarlet tanager - more usually found in the forests of North America - broke last weekend, sending birdwatchers into a state of excitement.  According to some reports the sighting in West Yorkshire is the first in the UK in 10 years and only the eighth recorded in this country.

Mr Flesher said he had been out to speak to some of the bird watchers and had met people from as far away as Glasgow.  “I can’t believe these people. They have come up from Kent, Cornwall and one chap said he had come from Cambridge.  The whole road was full.”

Another long-term resident, Tony Gregson, 90, has lived on the road for 40 years.  He said he first spotted the bird in his garden way back in September.  “It’s been here weeks,” he said. “It was on the bird feeder and I said to my sister 'what’s that bird?’ - it must have been five or six weeks since and everybody turned up."

Mr Gregson says he has had people knocking on his door and asking to try to catch a glimpse from his garden, but felt that was a step too far.  “They wanted to come into the back garden and I said ‘no’ because you don’t know what they’re doing. But they’ve been alright.  They were very friendly really. Very nice people."



Pauline, a birdwatcher from Gargrave, said it was more difficult for women.  “I watch out for places before we get anywhere – Tesco is good,” she told me.  Despite only travelling 25 miles for today's outing, Pauline has been as far as Devon for her birdwatching trips.  “We were looking for a Merlin. We didn’t see it though,” she said.

Julie King, 78, who has lived in Shelf for 19 years, said the village had been "hectic" with traffic and parking the main problems.  “I’ve heard more car horns going – there might be more of that,” she said.  But, she thinks the visitors will be off again soon. And the road is much quieter than it was on Monday when between 200-300 people flocked to the scene.  “I thought it had gone," she said.  “I can’t see it flying all the way back to America though.”

Matthew and his wife have lived in Shelf for two years. They pass through Bridle Dene while walking their two dogs.  Despite saying he is "not a twitcher by any means”, he has brought along his binoculars and did catch a glimpse of the scarlet tanager earlier in the week.

The couple live on the other side of the village, so the crowds of people have not bothered them too much, but Matthew said he had heard rumblings of discontent from other residents.  “The car park has been full every day. Certainly the last few days it’s been crazy, much busier than normal.  It’s a sleepy little village and not much goes on really.  There’s obviously been some people who are excited that this bird’s been in town, and it’s great to see all these people, whereas other people have not really enjoyed the disruption.  It’s been interesting for a sleepy little village like Shelf. To see Shelf on the national news is crazy.”


Re: Cycle jam in China, breakfast dumplings, wild haggis shooting, a scarlet tanager & fake zebras (renamed topic)
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 19:55, 16th November 2024
 
This whole topic is becoming offal.  


Re: Cycle jam in China, breakfast dumplings, wild haggis shooting, a scarlet tanager & fake zebras (renamed topic)
Posted by grahame at 19:54, 16th November 2024
 
I also gather that they make notoriously unsuitable household pets.

Haggis experts will be aware that the conventional right-handed haggis - with two short legs on the right of its body, suited to running round hills clockwise - is much more troublesome that the rarer left-handed variant. Left handed haggi are more or less docile.

Is this rather like the forward and inverse zebras - black on a white background is the norm rather than the rarer white on a black background.

Re: Cycle jam in China, breakfast dumplings, wild haggis shooting, a scarlet tanager & fake zebras (renamed topic)
Posted by Red Squirrel at 19:44, 16th November 2024
 
I also gather that they make notoriously unsuitable household pets.

Haggis experts will be aware that the conventional right-handed haggis - with two short legs on the right of its body, suited to running round hills clockwise - is much more troublesome that the rarer left-handed variant. Left handed haggi are more or less docile.

Re: Cycle jam in China, breakfast dumplings, wild haggis shooting, a scarlet tanager & fake zebras (renamed topic)
Posted by broadgage at 14:32, 16th November 2024
 
I also gather that they make notoriously unsuitable household pets.

Agree not suited as indoor pets.
Given a large enough enclosed outdoor pen, they can be kept as outdoor pets. Any such pen must be reliably escape proof, not forgetting the ability of haggis to burrow under walls or fences. They are social animals and should be kept in family groups, it is cruel to keep a solitary haggis.
Any haggis enclosure  must be large enough to allow for natural behaviour and should include some fertile ground with plenty of greenery, and also stony ground. A small mound or hillock encourages natural behaviour.
Given a large enough enclosure, they find their own food, but this may be supplemented with prepared rabbit food. They eat almost any plant matter together with beetles, grubs and earthworms.

Re: Cycle jam in China, breakfast dumplings, wild haggis shooting, a scarlet tanager & fake zebras (renamed topic)
Posted by johnneyw at 21:19, 15th November 2024
 
I also gather that they make notoriously unsuitable household pets.

Re: Cycle jam in China, breakfast dumplings, wild haggis shooting, a scarlet tanager & fake zebras (renamed topic)
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 20:10, 15th November 2024
 

 

Re: Cycle jam in China, breakfast dumplings, wild haggis shooting, a scarlet tanager & fake zebras (renamed topic)
Posted by broadgage at 20:06, 15th November 2024
 
All the haggis eaten these days should strictly speaking be known as the "lesser haggis", the great haggis has been extinct for nearly 300 years.
This historic print is reputed to depict the capture of the last great haggis, in about 1743.
https://scotianostra.tumblr.com/post/80884730061/the-capture-of-the-great-haggis-1743-a-rare-old

With the great haggis so long extinct, it is generally accepted that presently extant haggis may be called simply haggis, as the strictly correct "lesser haggis" is considered unduly pedantic.
Likewise these days it is accepted to refer to one haggis, or to many haggis, though the older plural was "haggi". One haggis, many haggi.

Re: Cycle jam in China, breakfast dumplings, wild haggis shooting, a scarlet tanager & fake zebras (renamed topic)
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 19:02, 15th November 2024
 

TfW served the last of those on the revived "Y Gerallt Gymro" when the service restarted after the Covid pandemic hit. Customer feedback vanquished them from the menu.

Mark

But only in Wales: they're still fair game up in Scotland. 


Re: Cycle jam in China, breakfast dumplings, wild haggis shooting, a scarlet tanager & fake zebras (renamed topic)
Posted by broadgage at 16:21, 15th November 2024
 
TfW served the last of those on the revived "Y Gerallt Gymro" when the service restarted after the Covid pandemic hit. Customer feedback vanquished them from the menu.

Mark

They should be ashamed of their actions, killing the last or one of the last members of endangered species for eating.  They should been allowed to breed either in the wild or in a preserve until numbers permitted taking a few for the table.

Re: Cycle jam in China, breakfast dumplings, wild haggis shooting, a scarlet tanager & fake zebras (renamed topic)
Posted by Mark A at 20:17, 11th November 2024
 
TfW served the last of those on the revived "Y Gerallt Gymro" when the service restarted after the Covid pandemic hit. Customer feedback vanquished them from the menu.

Mark

Re: Cycle jam in China, breakfast dumplings, wild haggis shooting, a scarlet tanager & fake zebras (renamed topic)
Posted by broadgage at 18:11, 11th November 2024
 
Most haggis sold these days are farmed, and are available all year round. Wild haggis are still available when in season, but in limited numbers and at high prices.
The rare Welsh haggis is feared to be extinct.

Re: Cycle jam in China, breakfast dumplings, wild haggis shooting, a scarlet tanager & fake zebras (renamed topic)
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 17:43, 11th November 2024
 
I think the open season for wild haggis shooting started on 12 August ... but I may be wrong ... 


Cycle jam in China, breakfast dumplings, wild haggis shooting, a scarlet tanager & fake zebras (renamed topic)
Posted by grahame at 14:01, 11th November 2024
 
From the BBC

It started as a social media quest for breakfast dumplings, but ended with thousands of cyclists bringing traffic gridlock between two cities in central China.

I can just imagine the chaos if a wild haggis was spotted in Scotland

 
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