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| Re: Delay repay delay In "Your rights and redress" [381787/32556/6] Posted by XPT at 19:44, 9th November 2026 | ![]() |
I'm still awaiting my CrossCountry Delay Repay from 7th September! My claim is still "In progress"! Anyone else been waited a similar or longer time than that?
| Re: New station at North Filton - now named as 'Bristol Brabazon' - ongoing discussion In "Bristol and Bath (WECA, now WEMCA)" [381786/24927/21] Posted by ChrisB at 19:37, 9th November 2026 | ![]() |
Probably wasn't worth opening it then?

| Re: New station at North Filton - now named as 'Bristol Brabazon' - ongoing discussion In "Bristol and Bath (WECA, now WEMCA)" [381785/24927/21] Posted by XPT at 19:33, 9th November 2026 | ![]() |
Whilst it's great that this new station is finally(wasn't it around 2016 that they originally said it would be built and open by?! And also Henbury and Horfield stations!) opening, just one service per hour for the time being(probably until at least 2028 when Henbury station is expected open!) in each direction is disappointing really. No match atall to the much more frequent suburban rail services around the Cardiff area for instance. Wonder how many people will use it to commute to and from work in either central Bristol or the Brabazon/North Filton area? The limited hourly service may not match up very well to the hours they work. For instance for someone working in the central Bristol area, finishing work at say 4pm or 5pm, then they're not going to get to Temple Meads in time to get either the 4:04pm or 5:04pm services to Bristol Brabazon, and have a very long wait for the next service instead. Which isn't very appealing! Then there's also the risk of some of these services being cancelled on some days due to reasons such as "More trains than usual needing repairs" and "A shortage of train crew". So they may just stick to using the 75 bus instead!
A similar issue with Ashley Down station which opened just over 2 years ago. Still only ONE service per hour in each direction, and there can be cancellations on some days too. And also not expected to be upgraded to two services per hour until Henbury station is finally expected to be built and open in 2028! Not sure how many people living in the Ashley Down area use it to commute to work in town. Probably more reliable to use the more frequent 70 bus instead. I think really they could fairly easily increase the frequency of services to TWO services per hour to and from this station by incorporating a stop there in say the Bristol-Gloucester or Bristol-Worcester Foregate Street services too, rather than just the Bristol Temple Meads-Filton Abbey Wood services.
It will be interesting to see how it goes anyway.
| Re: Padlocking your luggage to the train to prevent theft In "Across the West" [381784/32706/26] Posted by grahame at 19:23, 9th November 2026 | ![]() |
I do wonder what the rate of return is from stealing luggage from racks. ...
Pretty poor I would imagine - but then the act of stealing a piece of luggage in some circumstances is probably low risk. The damage done to the confidence of the victim and the distress and nuisance caused can be massive. In fact, this thread has reminded me that I should be carrying my medications I my close-hand baggage; cost to replace - an apology to my doctor, hassle and problem of so doing if I am in [say] Klangenfurt would be massive.
| Re: Automatic can use multi-operator if train cancelled In "Fare's Fair" [381783/32502/4] Posted by grahame at 19:07, 9th November 2026 | ![]() |
However, there was been no clarification on Network Railcard discount travel outside of the L&SE area, but seeing as everything else is to be ignored, then that restriction can probably be ignored too.
I cannot see the rail industry - even it's most pedantic jobsworth - throwing the book at a Waterloo to Exeter traveller who purchased a ticket and got it discounted using his Network Railcard, but then has been left with no option but to travel via Westbury and Taunton because The Mule is blocked at Crewkerne. The press would have a field day!
| Re: New station at North Filton - now named as 'Bristol Brabazon' - ongoing discussion In "Bristol and Bath (WECA, now WEMCA)" [381782/24927/21] Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 18:49, 9th November 2026 | ![]() |
Wot, like a Bristol and Bath Metro rail service, you mean?

| Re: New station at North Filton - now named as 'Bristol Brabazon' - ongoing discussion In "Bristol and Bath (WECA, now WEMCA)" [381781/24927/21] Posted by Red Squirrel at 18:33, 9th November 2026 | ![]() |
I have added a calendar link into the Coffee Shop diary. For those of us from further afield, first train would involve staying away from home the night before (hotel, hostel, park bench) and I will probably be with you in spirit rather than in person.
I admit - slight jealousy. New stations at Ashely Down, Portway Parkway, Bristol Parkway, Yate, Cam and Dursley, and Pill and Portishead physically under way ("shovels in the ground") with Henbury not far behind. Last brand new station in Wiltshire - 1937. Just one re-opening of a Beeching era (1966) closure in 1985 and with a much thinner service than any of the WECA / Bristol area stations. Congratulations to the area, including all the campaigners and community advocates and partners in the area who have and continue to help on this appropriate re-inviguration of rail in the area.
I admit - slight jealousy. New stations at Ashely Down, Portway Parkway, Bristol Parkway, Yate, Cam and Dursley, and Pill and Portishead physically under way ("shovels in the ground") with Henbury not far behind. Last brand new station in Wiltshire - 1937. Just one re-opening of a Beeching era (1966) closure in 1985 and with a much thinner service than any of the WECA / Bristol area stations. Congratulations to the area, including all the campaigners and community advocates and partners in the area who have and continue to help on this appropriate re-inviguration of rail in the area.
As Mark A says, a rising tide lifts all boats. We need to improve links between Bristol, Bath and West Wiltshire next.
| Re: [otd] 10th November 1840 - Boiler explosion, Bromsgrove In "Railway History and related topics" [381780/32707/55] Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 17:38, 9th November 2026 | ![]() |
I found this in the Yorkshire Post and Leeds Intelligencer, Wednesday, 12 June 1895
... as you happen to do, when you have just a few minutes to spare, browsing the internet.
You must have even more time to do so than me, even in my retirement, stuving. Thank you for your post.
CfN.

There's also the problem that goes under the heading of "suspicious packages" to consider. Promptly moving or removing such items is only going to be made more difficult for the emergency services.
| Re: To 'stockpile food' is now our Government's official policy, apparently In "The West - but NOT trains in the West" [381778/32456/31] Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 17:08, 9th November 2026 | ![]() |
You will not be able to flush the toilet. Do not try to in any way as the sewage system will not be working. You should collect your poo in plastic bags, which should be sealed and disposed of with normal household waste, ideally in an outside bin.
Would anyone like to check if there's a "how to" video online?

Ooh, err, missus

| Re: Automatic can use multi-operator if train cancelled In "Fare's Fair" [381777/32502/4] Posted by plymothian at 15:52, 9th November 2026 Already liked by Mark A | ![]() |
* It says "ticket" singular, so a split ticket booked journey must still stick to the "must call at" rule.
Had clarification on this, splits are to be ignored, so passengers CAN travel on routes/operators that don't call at split stations.
However, there was been no clarification on Network Railcard discount travel outside of the L&SE area, but seeing as everything else is to be ignored, then that restriction can probably be ignored too.
| Re: To 'stockpile food' is now our Government's official policy, apparently In "The West - but NOT trains in the West" [381776/32456/31] Posted by Trowres at 14:32, 9th November 2026 | ![]() |
gov.uk has some information on the scripts to be used on the radio in times of a nationwide power cut:
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/public-health-advice-from-uk-cmos-during-a-national-power-outage/water-and-sanitation-scripts-for-broadcast-media
You will not be able to flush the toilet. Do not try to in any way as the sewage system will not be working. You should collect your poo in plastic bags, which should be sealed and disposed of with normal household waste, ideally in an outside bin.
Would anyone like to check if there's a "how to" video online?

| Re: [otd] 10th November 1840 - Boiler explosion, Bromsgrove In "Railway History and related topics" [381775/32707/55] Posted by stuving at 14:08, 9th November 2026 | ![]() |
I found this in the Yorkshire Post and Leeds Intelligencer, Wednesday, 12 June 1895
FEDERATION ENGINEMEN.
A three days' conference of the National Federation of Enginemen's Protective Association of Great Britain was opened Glasgow yesterday under the presidency of Mr, Thomas Weighell, of Bedlingham, Northumberland. The Secretary reported that the membership was 9,123, increase 1,500. The proceedings on the Engines and Boilers Certificate Bill were detailed. The action Mr. H. Wilson, M.P., in blocking the measure was criticised. The report was adopted the motion Mr. Nicholson, Durham, seconded by Mr. John Green, Yorkshire Federation. The Chairman afterwards delivered an address. A resolution was adopted that the Executive the Federation should introduce a bill providing for the compulsory examination of steam boilers.
A three days' conference of the National Federation of Enginemen's Protective Association of Great Britain was opened Glasgow yesterday under the presidency of Mr, Thomas Weighell, of Bedlingham, Northumberland. The Secretary reported that the membership was 9,123, increase 1,500. The proceedings on the Engines and Boilers Certificate Bill were detailed. The action Mr. H. Wilson, M.P., in blocking the measure was criticised. The report was adopted the motion Mr. Nicholson, Durham, seconded by Mr. John Green, Yorkshire Federation. The Chairman afterwards delivered an address. A resolution was adopted that the Executive the Federation should introduce a bill providing for the compulsory examination of steam boilers.
That bill was lost. There were also attempts to legislate for certificates for supervising engineers, as had been done for marine engineers in 1862. (The Merchant Shipping Act Amendment Act of 1862 introduced Board of Trade examinations.) That was to apply to mine winding engines as well as boilers.
The bill sponsored by the Enginemen's Federation became the "Steam Engines and Boilers (Persons in Charge) Bill". This was discussed in Parliament in 1901, but I can't find any act of that name.
So, it must be after that ...
| Re: To 'stockpile food' is now our Government's official policy, apparently In "The West - but NOT trains in the West" [381774/32456/31] Posted by TaplowGreen at 13:48, 9th November 2026 | ![]() |
You might watch this - if you didn't see it back in 1982....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fCXXzPcwj3c
A Nuclear Bomb in London | Q.E.D.: A Guide to Armageddon | BBC Archive
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fCXXzPcwj3c
A Nuclear Bomb in London | Q.E.D.: A Guide to Armageddon | BBC Archive
Well, I'm sure that's perked everyone up!
| Re: Egypt - At least seven killed, over 100 injured, in train collision - 8 Nov 2026 In "The Wider Picture Overseas" [381773/32702/52] Posted by GBM at 13:29, 9th November 2026 | ![]() |
Slightly off topic.
We did a hot air balloon Trip several years ago.
One of the Q&A's was along the lines of how old is this balloon.
The reply was only a few years old - before being declared unsafe by whatever ministry.
The 'old' balloons are sold to Egypt for tourist flights.
Seems at that time Egypt didn't have balloon safety checks!
| Re: To 'stockpile food' is now our Government's official policy, apparently In "The West - but NOT trains in the West" [381772/32456/31] Posted by broadgage at 12:57, 9th November 2026 | ![]() |
Trivia alert, the solar modules pictured, do not appear to be very well installed !
It would appear that the modules are partly shaded by tree branches.
It is not always appreciated, that shading say 1% of the area, can reduce the energy produced by at as much as 50%.
Any branches that cause even minor shading should be cut back, or the modules relocated to an area with a clear view of the sun.
Thanks for that, this is not well known (or not by me, anyway)
This explains the often poor performance of solar panels when installed on sailing boats/yachts, It is likely that masts and rigging will cause shading.
| Re: To 'stockpile food' is now our Government's official policy, apparently In "The West - but NOT trains in the West" [381771/32456/31] Posted by Mark A at 12:48, 9th November 2026 | ![]() |
Trivia alert, the solar modules pictured, do not appear to be very well installed !
It would appear that the modules are partly shaded by tree branches.
It is not always appreciated, that shading say 1% of the area, can reduce the energy produced by at as much as 50%.
Any branches that cause even minor shading should be cut back, or the modules relocated to an area with a clear view of the sun.
Thanks for that, this is not well known (or not by me, anyway)
| Re: To 'stockpile food' is now our Government's official policy, apparently In "The West - but NOT trains in the West" [381770/32456/31] Posted by broadgage at 12:37, 9th November 2026 | ![]() |
Going off at a slight tangent here (and I can, because I'm an admin
), there is a somewhat related topic article, from the BBC:
No doubt the Council will pay their own (misguided) legal costs - at their taxpayers expense.
), there is a somewhat related topic article, from the BBC:Hut owner wins battle to keep living in off-grid home he built

Finnimore believes building the hut was the best option during a cost-of-living and housing crisis - Image © Geoffrey Finnimore
An off-grid hut that produces its own heating and electricity can continue to be the home of the man who built it, a council has decided.
Geoffrey Finnimore, a self-employed architectural designer, erected the structure in Glandwr, near Crymych, in 2020, but never told authorities or asked for permission.
Pembrokeshire council told him he must apply for retrospective permission for the home that is self-sufficient, and also collects rain water.
However, the local authority found that because it has now been occupied as a home for more than four years, it is immune from prosecution action.
"Without my home, which I created to solve my own problems without state assistance, having to pay for other accommodation would be catastrophic for my finances and well-being," Finnimore said.
The council asked him to apply for a lawful development certificate for the property. This is a formal legal document confirming the development is lawful.
But as he had lived there for more than four years, it meant he could not be prosecuted, so his application was accepted, the Local Democracy Reporting Service said.

Finnimore believes building the hut was the best option during a cost-of-living and housing crisis - Image © Geoffrey Finnimore
An off-grid hut that produces its own heating and electricity can continue to be the home of the man who built it, a council has decided.
Geoffrey Finnimore, a self-employed architectural designer, erected the structure in Glandwr, near Crymych, in 2020, but never told authorities or asked for permission.
Pembrokeshire council told him he must apply for retrospective permission for the home that is self-sufficient, and also collects rain water.
However, the local authority found that because it has now been occupied as a home for more than four years, it is immune from prosecution action.
"Without my home, which I created to solve my own problems without state assistance, having to pay for other accommodation would be catastrophic for my finances and well-being," Finnimore said.
The council asked him to apply for a lawful development certificate for the property. This is a formal legal document confirming the development is lawful.
But as he had lived there for more than four years, it meant he could not be prosecuted, so his application was accepted, the Local Democracy Reporting Service said.
No doubt the Council will pay their own (misguided) legal costs - at their taxpayers expense.

Trivia alert, the solar modules pictured, do not appear to be very well installed !
It would appear that the modules are partly shaded by tree branches.
It is not always appreciated, that shading say 1% of the area, can reduce the energy produced by at as much as 50%.
Any branches that cause even minor shading should be cut back, or the modules relocated to an area with a clear view of the sun.
| Re: New station at North Filton - now named as 'Bristol Brabazon' - ongoing discussion In "Bristol and Bath (WECA, now WEMCA)" [381769/24927/21] Posted by Mark A at 11:24, 9th November 2026 | ![]() |
The development's website... I'm sort of getting the hang of it.
https://www.brabazon.co.uk/
Another from Feilden Clegg Bradley, the architects practice, references the public park that is to run 'the length of the runway'. *Puzzledface emoji*
https://fcbstudios.com/projects/brabazon-masterplan/
| Re: To 'stockpile food' is now our Government's official policy, apparently In "The West - but NOT trains in the West" [381768/32456/31] Posted by ChrisB at 10:41, 9th November 2026 | ![]() |
You might watch this - if you didn't see it back in 1982....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fCXXzPcwj3c
A Nuclear Bomb in London | Q.E.D.: A Guide to Armageddon | BBC Archive
| Re: Padlocking your luggage to the train to prevent theft In "Across the West" [381767/32706/26] Posted by Ralph Ayres at 10:25, 9th November 2026 Already liked by Chris from Nailsea | ![]() |
I do wonder what the rate of return is from stealing luggage from racks. In most cases you'd just end up with someone's part-worn clothes and toiletries, with any valuables surely(?) on the owner's body or in a small bag kept with them. It's a pity though that modern trains with seats crammed together don't readily allow for putting luggage behind seats to keep an eye on.
Back in the day I did used to worry a bit about my bike being stolen mid-journey from the guard's van everyone had access to. Knowing that locking it to the train wouldn't go down well, I compromised by locking it to itself, so that at least it would have to be carried rather than wheeled, making any theft harder and more obvious.
| [otd] 10th November 1840 - Boiler explosion, Bromsgrove In "Railway History and related topics" [381766/32707/55] Posted by grahame at 10:07, 9th November 2026 | ![]() |
From Wikipedia
10th November 1840 – The Bromsgrove Boiler Explosion: One of the earliest recorded fatal locomotive accidents in Britain occurred on the Lickey Incline. The boiler of an experimental steam locomotive named Surprise (often associated with Dr. William Church) exploded at Bromsgrove station in Worcestershire, killing two railway employees. A famous headstone at St John the Baptist Church in Bromsgrove commemorates the engineers
We often read / hear of steam engine boilers being "in ticket until ..." or "out of ticket" but I have drawn pretty close to a blank on researching the history of when these became mandatory. Further links and quotes would be helpful!
The history of steam engine boiler certificates and safety inspections evolved from early 19th-century industrial disasters into a structured system of periodic testing and insurance
Going off at a slight tangent here (and I can, because I'm an admin
), there is a somewhat related topic article, from the BBC:Hut owner wins battle to keep living in off-grid home he built

Finnimore believes building the hut was the best option during a cost-of-living and housing crisis - Image © Geoffrey Finnimore
An off-grid hut that produces its own heating and electricity can continue to be the home of the man who built it, a council has decided.
Geoffrey Finnimore, a self-employed architectural designer, erected the structure in Glandwr, near Crymych, in 2020, but never told authorities or asked for permission.
Pembrokeshire council told him he must apply for retrospective permission for the home that is self-sufficient, and also collects rain water.
However, the local authority found that because it has now been occupied as a home for more than four years, it is immune from prosecution action.
"Without my home, which I created to solve my own problems without state assistance, having to pay for other accommodation would be catastrophic for my finances and well-being," Finnimore said.
The council asked him to apply for a lawful development certificate for the property. This is a formal legal document confirming the development is lawful.
But as he had lived there for more than four years, it meant he could not be prosecuted, so his application was accepted, the Local Democracy Reporting Service said.

Finnimore believes building the hut was the best option during a cost-of-living and housing crisis - Image © Geoffrey Finnimore
An off-grid hut that produces its own heating and electricity can continue to be the home of the man who built it, a council has decided.
Geoffrey Finnimore, a self-employed architectural designer, erected the structure in Glandwr, near Crymych, in 2020, but never told authorities or asked for permission.
Pembrokeshire council told him he must apply for retrospective permission for the home that is self-sufficient, and also collects rain water.
However, the local authority found that because it has now been occupied as a home for more than four years, it is immune from prosecution action.
"Without my home, which I created to solve my own problems without state assistance, having to pay for other accommodation would be catastrophic for my finances and well-being," Finnimore said.
The council asked him to apply for a lawful development certificate for the property. This is a formal legal document confirming the development is lawful.
But as he had lived there for more than four years, it meant he could not be prosecuted, so his application was accepted, the Local Democracy Reporting Service said.
No doubt the Council will pay their own (misguided) legal costs - at their taxpayers expense.

| Re: Tram overturns in Croydon - 7 killed, 51 injured - 9 Nov 2016 In "Buses and other ways to travel" [381764/17643/5] Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 09:15, 9th November 2026 | ![]() |
An update, from the BBC:
Families of Croydon tram crash victims say justice not been done

Tram 2551 was en route from New Addington to Wimbledon via East Croydon when it crashed
Ten years on from the fatal Croydon tram crash, the families of those who died say they believe they were failed by the justice system.
Tram 2551 came off the tracks on a sharp bend at 06:07 GMT on 9 November 2016. It was travelling at over 43mph (70km/h) - more than three times the recommended limit.
Sixty-nine passengers were on board at the time. Seven people died and 61 were injured.
The driver Alfred Dorris was cleared of health and safety offences following a trial, while Transport for London (TfL) and Tram Operations Limited (TOL) were fined a total of £14m for failing in their health and safety duties.
"It's a milestone at 10 years, but to us we live with it everyday. Justice was not served," says Jean Smith, whose son Mark died in the derailment.
Danielle Richardson, who lost her grandfather Phillip Logan, says: "I'm always going to feel bitter. I'm always going to feel that anger towards Transport for London."

Dorota Rynkiewicz, Dane Chinnery, Donald Collett, Mark Smith, Phil Seary, Philip Logan and Robert Huxley were killed in the derailment - Image © Met Police
The seven people who died were Dane Chinnery, 19, Philip Seary, 57, Dorota Rynkiewicz, 35, Robert Huxley, 63, and Philip Logan, 52, all from New Addington, and Donald Collett, 62, and Mark Smith, 35, both from Croydon.
Of the 61 injured, 19 were seriously hurt. Many sustained life-changing injuries, from chronic pain to amputations.
All of them were on their way to work.
(BBC article continues, in some detail)

Tram 2551 was en route from New Addington to Wimbledon via East Croydon when it crashed
Ten years on from the fatal Croydon tram crash, the families of those who died say they believe they were failed by the justice system.
Tram 2551 came off the tracks on a sharp bend at 06:07 GMT on 9 November 2016. It was travelling at over 43mph (70km/h) - more than three times the recommended limit.
Sixty-nine passengers were on board at the time. Seven people died and 61 were injured.
The driver Alfred Dorris was cleared of health and safety offences following a trial, while Transport for London (TfL) and Tram Operations Limited (TOL) were fined a total of £14m for failing in their health and safety duties.
"It's a milestone at 10 years, but to us we live with it everyday. Justice was not served," says Jean Smith, whose son Mark died in the derailment.
Danielle Richardson, who lost her grandfather Phillip Logan, says: "I'm always going to feel bitter. I'm always going to feel that anger towards Transport for London."

Dorota Rynkiewicz, Dane Chinnery, Donald Collett, Mark Smith, Phil Seary, Philip Logan and Robert Huxley were killed in the derailment - Image © Met Police
The seven people who died were Dane Chinnery, 19, Philip Seary, 57, Dorota Rynkiewicz, 35, Robert Huxley, 63, and Philip Logan, 52, all from New Addington, and Donald Collett, 62, and Mark Smith, 35, both from Croydon.
Of the 61 injured, 19 were seriously hurt. Many sustained life-changing injuries, from chronic pain to amputations.
All of them were on their way to work.
(BBC article continues, in some detail)
I recommend a full read of that BBC news item - it contains a lot of detail about that sad incident.
CfN.

| Re: New station at North Filton - now named as 'Bristol Brabazon' - ongoing discussion In "Bristol and Bath (WECA, now WEMCA)" [381763/24927/21] Posted by Mark A at 09:08, 9th November 2026 | ![]() |
This can be a situation where a rising tide can lift all boats. A more joined-up network, more useable and relevant to people's lives and this catalyses services to be strengthened on parts of the network in reach but less well served.
| Re: Padlocking your luggage to the train to prevent theft In "Across the West" [381762/32706/26] Posted by Mark A at 09:04, 9th November 2026 | ![]() |
Well there was that time, as I retrieved it approaching Newport, the waistband of my rucksack accidentally fastened itself securely to the light fitting of a class 166, thankfully the staff were very understanding as I undertook an unintended trip to accompany it from Newport to Cardiff. I've never seen a carriage full of people travelling to work go so deadpan though.
(When this happens to you, something thin and flexible will make for a quick-release key: push the strap further in to the light fitting, persuade whatever you have to hand to pass beneath the buckle and withdraw both together.)
| Re: Where to live around London In "Transport for London" [381761/32704/46] Posted by grahame at 08:57, 9th November 2026 | ![]() |
As soon as people start doing this, house prices will go up steeply. Homes in other London commuter belt towns within 30-45 mins train ride that have become popular options have all rocketed in price
There is always going to be an ongoing up-and-down as travel improves / regresses, as local facilities and schools and medicals get better / worse in an area, and as popularity / marketing / fashion changes. I recall that at one time, the Medway towns (Rochester, Chatham, Gillingham) were a good, lower priced place to live, encouraged by fast, lower peak cost rail services - not sure if that's still the case. When I lived in Harpenden, there was a joke about a line marked "£6000" on the road to Luton which was the typical difference in house price for that one (as it was in those days) extra stop on the train; got married for the first time in 1978, moved north and swapped a two-up two-down mid terrace in Batford for a three bedroom semi in Caddington without the need for much extra capital.
| Padlocking your luggage to the train to prevent theft In "Across the West" [381760/32706/26] Posted by grahame at 08:23, 9th November 2026 | ![]() |
From a social media enquiry from a group looking at travel for older people around Europe - on padlocking your luggage to the train's luggage rack in order to reduce / prevent theft
Does anyone have a recommendation for a cable lock to secure your luggage while on the train? Thanks in advance.
A mix of responses ranging from recommendations of particular lock products to "don't do it". I replied:
In many countries, you are not permitted to to cable lock your luggage to the train. Best check for the specific country.
and brough a whole load of "like"s and support such as I saw a very angry train manager on a French train call out a tourist for chaining a case in the luggage rack.
which I confirmed I can believe it. They hinder others including staff from arranging things to make best use of space, and they're a nightmare when someone leaves their baggage on a train by mistake, looses the key of forgets the combination.
But - oh dear - I seem to have annoyed the people who have flown under the radar with this and seem to routinely lock their luggage to racks:
I was happy to contribute to this as I have a well used lock (link below) BUT why are there so many inaccurate and angry responses. This is a friendly group normally so even if you disagree you can state it more kindly than some have. In my experience (UK & Europewide) it only takes a little consideration (which I would have thought natural to this older crowd) when using said locks to avoid inconveniencing others. Product recommendation not quoted
Locking luggage to a train rack is generally discouraged or prohibited by many train operators. As an example, Lumo (a UK operator) state "For safety reasons, luggage cannot be padlocked to the train's infrastructure or doors."
I am not a fan of AI answers, but this one I got when I asked seems to me to confirm the situation as I understand it:
The Rules and Risks
* Staff Interventions: Train guards and staff may ask you to remove chains, bike locks, or heavy cables if they obstruct emergency aisles, block other people's bags, or slow down operations at busy stops.
* Safety & Evacuation: In an emergency, locked-down bags can trip people or delay a fast evacuation.
* Theft Realities: While luggage theft does occasionally happen—usually when thieves grab a bag right as doors open or rifle through unmonitored overhead racks—widespread consensus notes that locking a bag to a communal rack is often unnecessary and can annoy staff
Practical Alternatives
* Choose Your Seat Wisely: Book a seat close to the end-of-coach luggage stacks or overhead racks so you can keep your eyes on your belongings.
* Keep Valuables Near You: Always pack passports, money, laptops, and phones in a small daypack or bag that stays under your seat or on your person.
* Use Light Deterrents (If Preferred): If you choose to use a flexible tether, compact options like retractable cable locks are available via Amazon.co.uk Cable Lock Listings
* Staff Interventions: Train guards and staff may ask you to remove chains, bike locks, or heavy cables if they obstruct emergency aisles, block other people's bags, or slow down operations at busy stops.
* Safety & Evacuation: In an emergency, locked-down bags can trip people or delay a fast evacuation.
* Theft Realities: While luggage theft does occasionally happen—usually when thieves grab a bag right as doors open or rifle through unmonitored overhead racks—widespread consensus notes that locking a bag to a communal rack is often unnecessary and can annoy staff
Practical Alternatives
* Choose Your Seat Wisely: Book a seat close to the end-of-coach luggage stacks or overhead racks so you can keep your eyes on your belongings.
* Keep Valuables Near You: Always pack passports, money, laptops, and phones in a small daypack or bag that stays under your seat or on your person.
* Use Light Deterrents (If Preferred): If you choose to use a flexible tether, compact options like retractable cable locks are available via Amazon.co.uk Cable Lock Listings
Personally? I travel a lot, do not use locks but do place luggage sensibly within sight. My own rucksack has straps which have firm clips on them - released in an instant, but hold if you don't press on exactly the right spot. Where I put my luggage down / have it with me (not so much on train, but in restaurant, waiting or seating areas, etc), I DO clip it to the seat sometimes. Doesn't stop it being picked up, but does mean that an opportunist doing a grab and would find him/herself pulled up short. To my knowldege, the effectiveness of approach has never been tested on my luggage, and I do take care to ensure that personal stuff stays much closer to my person.

The rules / regulations on this are not exactly stuff that makes the headlines - after all, there are so many pressing issues around that much need to go unsaid. I can recall a past conversation about shelling prawns on the underground, which whilst we considered it antisocial didn't appear to be against the rules - but as far as I know, there are no specifics anywhere.
Governments telling us to stockpile much more officially now - so what do they know? Mar-a-largo being equipped with surface to air missiles (defence??). US military training soldiers to dig mass graves. Russia Is Ready For War With Europe, Putin Warns. What was going on at Fairford? Trump threatens Iran escalation after the mid-terms.
This thread, I note, is in "The West, but not trains in The West". Am I straying too far from trains?
This thread, I note, is in "The West, but not trains in The West". Am I straying too far from trains?
I suspect that they "know" just how vulnerable modern society is to any disruption in food supplies or utilities, and that the UK is especially bad at preparing for this.
It is now about 80 years since the last major war in Europe.
It is now about 75 years since the East Coast floods.
It is now over 50 years since the last major national disruption to electricity supplies, outside living memory for many.
When I was a kid most homes still had a fire place, now rare.
Most of the population have no idea how to cope with significant disruption.
It is in my view a proper subject to discuss.
.....you would need to redouble the line to get all the extra water trains through. .....
I should have mentioned that I would expect the water trains to run overnight, which would also reduce evaporation rates.














