Recent Public Posts - [guest]
| Change to Number 8 service at Temple Meads In "Buses and other ways to travel" [378996/32445/5] Posted by Phantom at 12:18, 1st September 2026 | ![]() |
I believe that I am reading this correctly, that the number 8 service that has ran from outside Temple Meads for decades is to cease using the usual stop on the right hand side as you walk away from the station.
With the new Eastern access point to the station, this service is being re-routed to provide access from this point.
Having travelled through Temple Meads last Monday and yesterday, I wasn't aware of any signage about this change, I would have thought it was a pretty major move for passengers?
https://www.firstbus.co.uk/sites/default/files/public/maps/Bristol%208%208th%20Sep%202026%20WEB.pdf
| Re: Bristol Temple Meads - station, facilities, incidents and events (merged posts) In "Bristol and Bath (WECA, now WEMCA)" [378995/10737/21] Posted by Phantom at 11:51, 1st September 2026 | ![]() |
Passed through their yesterday
The added light from that end makes a massive difference to the feel of the underpass
I am intrigued how much use it will get and how much increased footfall there will be going the opposite way to normal at the station
Out of interest does anyone know what the hours this entrance will be open?
| Re: 2 of 3 - rail related but no trains In "The Lighter Side" [378994/32435/30] Posted by grahame at 11:46, 1st September 2026 | ![]() |
I did wonder about Liege for B13 but the total lack of people in sight made Lyon Exupery seem more likely!
Would I be right in guessing that Lyons Exupery feel about as busy as Chetnole?
I haven't been there for quite a while however checking the timetables it still only seems to have roughly twice as many departures per hour as Chetnole but has 3 much longer platforms and a huge station concourse and overall roof etc. for the relatively few passengers!
As an afterthought:-
B14: The Olymp & Hades shop would seem to make it in Germany. Not that I've stopped off there but possibly Potsdam just because I see that Olymp & Hades has a shop in the station complex.
Potsdam is exactly right. Wow - as I put the quiz together I thought "this one will be tough".
Don't suppose that Lyon station is just a request stop though

| Re: Wanted - a bit of automated intelligence. In "Fare's Fair" [378993/32442/4] Posted by bobm at 11:32, 1st September 2026 Already liked by Mark A | ![]() |
Perhaps ... there are so many different standards / machine types / TOCs around. I have seen similar offerings to the Melksham machine in other places. Come the day after nationalisation, and we'll have a miracle of a uniform and logical system [for clarity, the sentence written tongue in cheek]
..on a QWERTY keyboard.

| Trip Report: 27/08/2026 - Concert In Torquay In "Shorter journeys in Devon - Central, North and South" [378992/32444/24] Posted by Bob_Blakey at 11:26, 1st September 2026 | ![]() |
Tickets (All With Senior Railcard, 2 Pax▸ , Price Per Person):
DIG > TQY Off-Peak Day Return £7.70
Outward
DIG 1442 (OT) > TQY 1536 (OT) : 2T22 EXM > PGN : 1 x 165/1 (3 Cars)
Service lightly loaded. No ticket/railcard check.
Return
TQY 2145 (2147) > DIG 2256 (2259) : 2F36 PGN > EXM : 1 x 166/2 (3 Cars)
Service departed PGN 2 late for no obvious reason. It arrived at EXD on time but was then held for an additional 6 minutes to take pax from the late running 1C96 PAD > PLY.
No ticket/railcard check so we could have made the entire journey for free! I don't regard this as acceptable given that neither DIG nor TQY have ticket gates.
| Re: Wanted - a bit of automated intelligence. In "Fare's Fair" [378991/32442/4] Posted by grahame at 11:07, 1st September 2026 | ![]() |
Sure, the offerings are alphabetic, but wouldn't this be more customer friendly if the offer order was "most popular first", and with those to which tickets have not been sold in recent memory then alphabetic below if there are still gaps?
I'm sure I've seen the destinations listed on some machines in terms of 'most popular' in the past?
Perhaps ... there are so many different standards / machine types / TOCs around. I have seen similar offerings to the Melksham machine in other places. Come the day after nationalisation, and we'll have a miracle of a uniform and logical system [for clarity, the sentence written tongue in cheek]
| Re: 2 of 3 - rail related but no trains In "The Lighter Side" [378990/32435/30] Posted by DR7835 at 11:07, 1st September 2026 | ![]() |
I did wonder about Liege for B13 but the total lack of people in sight made Lyon Exupery seem more likely!
Would I be right in guessing that Lyons Exupery feel about as busy as Chetnole?
I haven't been there for quite a while however checking the timetables it still only seems to have roughly twice as many departures per hour as Chetnole but has 3 much longer platforms and a huge station concourse and overall roof etc. for the relatively few passengers!
As an afterthought:-
B14: The Olymp & Hades shop would seem to make it in Germany. Not that I've stopped off there but possibly Potsdam just because I see that Olymp & Hades has a shop in the station complex.
| Re: 2 of 3 - rail related but no trains In "The Lighter Side" [378989/32435/30] Posted by stuving at 11:03, 1st September 2026 | ![]() |
I did wonder about Liege for B13 but the total lack of people in sight made Lyon Exupery seem more likely!
Would I be right in guessing that Lyons Exupery feel about as busy as Chetnole?
It was a notorious white elephant when built (though actual numbers were not that low - over 1M pa). Why would you travel long distance by train to an minor local airport when you could as easily go to a bigger one? In fact it has picked up passengers since then (and since covid), as has the airport, no doubt both helping each other.
But the same problem applies to any high-speed rail station serving a local airport. St Exupéry TGV was pretty useless for going to Lyon, and TGVs always served the city centre in any case, so it had no big reason to exist. I guess the HS2 Interchange station will primarily serve its region and greater Birmingham, and the airport only in a minor way, so may be better used.
For a real backwater look at Meuse TGV - it even looks as if it was originally designed to be thatched!
| Re: Wanted - a bit of automated intelligence. In "Fare's Fair" [378988/32442/4] Posted by grahame at 11:01, 1st September 2026 | ![]() |
There is a similar conversation to be had about the keyboard when collecting pre-paid tickets. Most people are familiar with the "QWERTY" style keyboard so find the alphabetical version more difficult.
Agreed ... and raised the "why QWERY anyway" question ... Google headlines
Why It Was Created
Early models: The first typewriters had keys in a simple alphabetical order.
The problem: Fast typists pressed common letter pairs that sat close together on the machine.
The jam: The metal arms connected to the keys hit each other and stuck.
The fix: Inventor Christopher Latham Sholes separated common letter combinations to keep the metal arms from colliding
Early models: The first typewriters had keys in a simple alphabetical order.
The problem: Fast typists pressed common letter pairs that sat close together on the machine.
The jam: The metal arms connected to the keys hit each other and stuck.
The fix: Inventor Christopher Latham Sholes separated common letter combinations to keep the metal arms from colliding
and so there's an argument to be had that something different - such as alphabetic - should now be adopted, the original reason being out of date. But then this is railway. Remind me where 4'8.75" came from ...
| Re: Call for improved catering (a Coffee Shop!) in Cornwall In "Campaigns for new and improved services" [378987/32440/28] Posted by bobm at 10:59, 1st September 2026 Already liked by Mark A | ![]() |
Coffee or not - there are some good views to be had from the vantage point

..depending on your interests.

| Re: Wanted - a bit of automated intelligence. In "Fare's Fair" [378986/32442/4] Posted by IndustryInsider at 10:54, 1st September 2026 | ![]() |
Sure, the offerings are alphabetic, but wouldn't this be more customer friendly if the offer order was "most popular first", and with those to which tickets have not been sold in recent memory then alphabetic below if there are still gaps?
I'm sure I've seen the destinations listed on some machines in terms of 'most popular' in the past?
| Re: Call for improved catering (a Coffee Shop!) in Cornwall In "Campaigns for new and improved services" [378985/32440/28] Posted by Andy at 10:40, 1st September 2026 | ![]() |
Being related to "Cornish News", I think I can safely say this is not to be taken seriously.
:-)
:-)
Indeed. Great fun.
There are times my sense of humour - in this case when sharing a headline - is so dry it might be doubted. Which is not always a good trait in the webmaster of a serious site.
Thing is Grahame, with any matters pertaining to Camborne, the line between humour and reality is so very very fine! ;-)
| Re: Wanted - a bit of automated intelligence. In "Fare's Fair" [378984/32442/4] Posted by bobm at 10:34, 1st September 2026 Already liked by Mark A | ![]() |
There is a similar conversation to be had about the keyboard when collecting pre-paid tickets. Most people are familiar with the "QWERTY" style keyboard so find the alphabetical version more difficult.
I make that near the No. 49 bus route (Stagecoach) from Fleming Way, Swindon via Devizes to Trowbridge.
It is - bus stop is right by the driveway. Not that the stops are announced on Stagecoach West (yet) but it is helpfully called Wroughton Science Museum.
| Re: 2 of 3 - rail related but no trains In "The Lighter Side" [378982/32435/30] Posted by grahame at 10:19, 1st September 2026 | ![]() |
I did wonder about Liege for B13 but the total lack of people in sight made Lyon Exupery seem more likely!
Would I be right in guessing that Lyons Exupery feel about as busy as Chetnole?
| Re: 3rd and final (for now) "Rail related but no trains" In "The Lighter Side" [378981/32437/30] Posted by DR7835 at 09:53, 1st September 2026 | ![]() |
Since more than 24 hours have elapsed:
C13: Switzerland. Göschenen station with the portals of the "original" Gotthard rail tunnel in the distance and the building on the left for the construction site of the new road tunnel.
I think I can identify C9 as well but I'll wait in case anyone else also wants a second go!
| Re: 2 of 3 - rail related but no trains In "The Lighter Side" [378980/32435/30] Posted by DR7835 at 09:49, 1st September 2026 Already liked by grahame | ![]() |
I did wonder about Liege for B13 but the total lack of people in sight made Lyon Exupery seem more likely!
| Re: Call for improved catering (a Coffee Shop!) in Cornwall In "Campaigns for new and improved services" [378979/32440/28] Posted by Witham Bobby at 09:39, 1st September 2026 Already liked by grahame | ![]() |
From Cornish News
A Camborne couple have called for a Costa Coffee to be built on top of Carn Brea after walking up the hill for the first time and being disappointed by the lack of refreshments.
Darren, known locally as “Dazza”, and his partner Debs say they had talked about climbing Carn Brea for years before finally deciding to give it a go at the weekend.
But after a gruelling half-hour hike to the top, Dazza said he was shocked to discover there wasn't a coffee shop waiting for them.
Darren, known locally as “Dazza”, and his partner Debs say they had talked about climbing Carn Brea for years before finally deciding to give it a go at the weekend.
But after a gruelling half-hour hike to the top, Dazza said he was shocked to discover there wasn't a coffee shop waiting for them.
The shop would have been open if they'd visited on any day other than Wednesday
| Re: Coffee shop - posting stats as we approach our 20th birthday In "News, Help and Assistance" [378978/32441/29] Posted by Witham Bobby at 09:38, 1st September 2026 Already liked by grahame | ![]() |
Many thanks Graham and all moderators for providing a great and friendly discussion board. I don't visit every day, but when I do, there's always something informative, entertaining, annoying, or fascinating to be found.
| Re: 2 of 3 - rail related but no trains In "The Lighter Side" [378977/32435/30] Posted by oxviem at 08:28, 1st September 2026 | ![]() |
B13: liege guillemins
| Re: 3rd and final (for now) "Rail related but no trains" In "The Lighter Side" [378976/32437/30] Posted by stuving at 08:26, 1st September 2026 | ![]() |
C2: Rotterdam Centraal - but not the better-known big pointy bit.
https://www.scienceinnovationpark.org.uk/
and https://www.facebook.com/groups/600195619390294/?multi_permalinks=1060648803344971
SCIENCE AND INNOVATION PARK
THIS 545-ACRE MULTI-PURPOSE SITE IS HOME TO THE SCIENCE MUSEUM GROUP COLLECTION
Our behind-the-scenes tours give visitors the chance to discover incredible historic objects in their home here at the Science and Innovation Park in Wiltshire.
Led by an expert tour guide through this vast facility, you’ll encounter hundreds of objects each with a story to tell, from objects that explored the stratosphere to machines that plumbed the depths of our oceans. On the tour you will see huge icons of transport including a Sno-Cat used in the first motorised crossing of Antarctica, right through to an ice cream tricycle that helped win the Second World War.
PUBLIC GUIDED TOURS
DATE: Dates available up to 30 December 2026, seven days a week (except for 24–27 December).
LOCATION: Hawking Building, Science and Innovation Park, Wroughton, SN4 9LT (near Swindon)
THIS 545-ACRE MULTI-PURPOSE SITE IS HOME TO THE SCIENCE MUSEUM GROUP COLLECTION
Our behind-the-scenes tours give visitors the chance to discover incredible historic objects in their home here at the Science and Innovation Park in Wiltshire.
Led by an expert tour guide through this vast facility, you’ll encounter hundreds of objects each with a story to tell, from objects that explored the stratosphere to machines that plumbed the depths of our oceans. On the tour you will see huge icons of transport including a Sno-Cat used in the first motorised crossing of Antarctica, right through to an ice cream tricycle that helped win the Second World War.
PUBLIC GUIDED TOURS
DATE: Dates available up to 30 December 2026, seven days a week (except for 24–27 December).
LOCATION: Hawking Building, Science and Innovation Park, Wroughton, SN4 9LT (near Swindon)
I make that near the No. 49 bus route (Stagecoach) from Fleming Way, Swindon via Devizes to Trowbridge.
Happy memories of seeing the "Science Museum Store" there. My understanding is that this is a guided tour through a single modern building, with the old aircraft hangars not now accessible due to concerns including asbestos issues.
| Wanted - a bit of automated intelligence. In "Fare's Fair" [378974/32442/4] Posted by grahame at 07:14, 1st September 2026 | ![]() |
Over the past 6 years, no-one has bought a rail ticket from Melksham to Brickett Wood, Bridge of Allan or Bridge of Orchy. So why are those offered as top suggestions when people are entering a station-by-name on the ticket vending machine? Where are Bristol Parkway and Brighton, which are the 26th and 42nd most popular destinations as you enter B-R-I....?
Here is what I was offered (on the left) and the most popular destinations - those to or from which tickets have been sold over the past 6 years - on the right.

Sure, the offerings are alphabetic, but wouldn't this be more customer friendly if the offer order was "most popular first", and with those to which tickets have not been sold in recent memory then alphabetic below if there are still gaps?
We can argue as to where Bristol Temple Meads should be listed as it's also on the front panel of ten most popular destinations.
| Coffee shop - posting stats as we approach our 20th birthday In "News, Help and Assistance" [378973/32441/29] Posted by grahame at 06:31, 1st September 2026 Already liked by Witham Bobby | ![]() |
The Coffee Shop had a busy August, with 135 new topics and 1,334 new posts. And goodness only knows how many real reads by however many people; our stats for the "worker" server show only those read requests that the "receptionist" server can't answer straight off, and Google Analytics has been muddied by events from countries like Singapore and Brazil though it has filtered out a very high proportion of autonoma. It does report in excess of 100,000 events from the UK in the last 4 weeks - that's around 3,500 per day.
I say "busy" but that's not out of the ordinary - below, you'll find graphs of the number of new topics (the blue areas) and of new posts (the red areas) going back to the Coffee Shop's foundation. Month by month, we have some serious peaks and troughs and I can't see any one reason that explains them all. Some can be noted as "that one was because ..." and the reason is often external to us such as a GWR or rail industry event. In some ways I hope we remain as busy in September, but then I do NOT hope for any further accidents such as Lewes and Wickford, nor any major service disruption caused by heat, timetable changes caused by dry conditions, or the failure to have enough operation trains to run advertised services.
Beware - these graphs show this year on the LEFT and go back in time as you read right


The Coffee Shop would not be what it is today without the help and support of its membership - contributors, moderators and administrators - a superb team all of volunteers to whom I (as webmaster) extend my thanks. Whilst it's true I spend a lot of time here as well, that's only a tiny proportion of what it would be without that help - you all make it easy, and a pleasure too.
| Re: Why so many pictures?? In "Introductions and chat" [378972/32439/1] Posted by grahame at 05:13, 1st September 2026 | ![]() |
Did it not occur to the installer of that ramp that it was not going to work, and query the specification at the time?
No: apparently not.
Edit to add: Unless that ramp is not actually fixed in place, but can be moved to the right, to align with the doorway, in case of need. The markings on the brickwork suggest that might be the case.
No: apparently not.

Edit to add: Unless that ramp is not actually fixed in place, but can be moved to the right, to align with the doorway, in case of need. The markings on the brickwork suggest that might be the case.

I suspect it [was/is] movable - by a fit, able bodied person prior to the entrance of a customer who needs it.
Rather less than three cheers for facilities provided for wheelchair users that stop short of letting them use the facilities independently. Arriving at a [facility/something and needing help to actualaly get at it is far from ideal, but better than not being able to access it at all. Leaving all the more to be desired is a place like this one might appear to be where the request for assistance has to be made inside, on the "far" side of the person needing to use the facility.
There are very serious discussions to be had, and education and changes to be made, which this picture opens a window onto. Lisa and I have had so many experiences over the past few months - of the superb down to the pretty well useless. People's needs vary and travelling as a couple we have the luxury of still being able to work around most issues, but we have a very much enhanced appreciation of the problems these days. We also have the experience of being a provider where there were customer accessibility issues at times, our legal and moral need to provide an excellent service for all, and for a few years consideration of what we could to with a listed building all within our small company's [means/viability].
| Re: Call for improved catering (a Coffee Shop!) in Cornwall In "Campaigns for new and improved services" [378971/32440/28] Posted by grahame at 04:46, 1st September 2026 Already liked by Andy | ![]() |
Being related to "Cornish News", I think I can safely say this is not to be taken seriously.
:-)
:-)
Indeed. Great fun.
There are times my sense of humour - in this case when sharing a headline - is so dry it might be doubted. Which is not always a good trait in the webmaster of a serious site.
| Re: 2 of 3 - rail related but no trains In "The Lighter Side" [378970/32435/30] Posted by stuving at 22:13, 31st August 2026 | ![]() |
B4: Bregenz - like what it says on the lady's bag!
| Re: Railways but no trains - 1 of 3 In "The Lighter Side" [378969/32425/30] Posted by LiskeardRich at 21:48, 31st August 2026 | ![]() |
Number 2.
| Re: Railways but no trains - 1 of 3 In "The Lighter Side" [378968/32425/30] Posted by LiskeardRich at 21:43, 31st August 2026 | ![]() |
13 is Plymouth,
I’ve visited two of the international photos so far this year too. Didn’t spot Grahame.
That Standard fare is a lot for a couple of hours or so! You can get almost a full day out usually for that price-ish.
And only 10min break at Newbury in the afternoon?!
It'll probably be the most people you've had on Melksham since the station closed.....and it's not even stopping

And only 10min break at Newbury in the afternoon?!
It'll probably be the most people you've had on Melksham since the station closed.....and it's not even stopping

I hope not - we have had Santa Specials for which the platform has been filled to the extent that stewards were needed (and pre-arranged) for safety purposes. With it passing 4 times, people coming to see it will have multiple opportunities and that may spread the load.
I am also thinking about where else it could be seen from, and not only the rail but the roads that cross on various bridges. And also wondering how and if to show interest in the publicity it will get without stoking the enthusiasm of any crowds that might come along.
Take care in what you recommend. Many years ago, someone locally was killed crossing the road to catch another glimpse of a steam train passing. Easy to do and not think to look for cars.














