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MOVED: Tree blocking line at Avoncliff
In "Portsmouth to Cardiff" [375805/32104/20]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 22:22, 6th June 2026
 
This topic has been moved to Across the West and merged with other posts relating to trees on the railway there.

https://www.firstgreatwestern.info/coffeeshop/index.php?topic=31219.0

Re: Ofcom research into mobile network and wifi performance on trains
In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [375804/32100/51]
Posted by didcotdean at 21:36, 6th June 2026
 
S'funny. I'm sure it's not long since the DfT were querying whether passengers actually needed wifi on trains - awkwardly, this was at a time when ticketing purchase via mobile phones was a rapidly emerging force.

Mark
Just over three years ago: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-65673622

Selective quotes:
The Department for Transport says cost pressures mean it will review whether the current wi-fi service "delivers the best possible value for money".

"Our railways are currently not financially sustainable, and it is unfair to continue asking taxpayers to foot the bill, which is why reform of all aspects of the railways is essential," the Department for Transport (DfT) said.

On-train wi-fi equipment installed in 2015 is now in need of replacing and the government said many people on short journeys did not connect to the on-train wi-fi, and used their mobile phone network instead.

Changed their mind last year, hence the experiments since with modern gear rather than struggling on with 10+ year old stuff.

Re: Trees falling onto railway lines, causing disruption - ongoing incidents and discussion
In "Across the West" [375803/31219/26]
Posted by old original at 17:07, 6th June 2026
 
It must be one mighty tree to cover such an area!

Cancellations to services between Totnes and Truro

Due to a tree blocking the railway between Totnes and Truro the Penzance line is blocked.

Train services running through these stations may be cancelled or delayed. Disruption is expected until 17:45 06/06.

Turns out the tree is near Bodmin.......

..and another near Ivybridge

Re: Trees falling onto railway lines, causing disruption - ongoing incidents and discussion
In "Across the West" [375802/31219/26]
Posted by bobm at 16:52, 6th June 2026
 
It must be one mighty tree to cover such an area!

Cancellations to services between Totnes and Truro

Due to a tree blocking the railway between Totnes and Truro the Penzance line is blocked.

Train services running through these stations may be cancelled or delayed. Disruption is expected until 17:45 06/06.

Turns out the tree is near Bodmin.......

Re: Swindon <-> Westbury service updates and amendments, ongoing discussion - 2026
In "TransWilts line" [375801/31359/18]
Posted by bobm at 16:33, 6th June 2026
 
Waiting for a diverted London Paddington to Penzance service to clear the single line at the Bradford Junction end.   In turn that had been delayed by a late running train up from Newquay.

Re: Swindon <-> Westbury service updates and amendments, ongoing discussion - 2026
In "TransWilts line" [375800/31359/18]
Posted by grahame at 16:29, 6th June 2026
 
15:39 Swindon to Westbury due 16:21

15:39 Swindon to Westbury due 16:21 is being delayed between Chippenham and Melksham and is now expected to be 12 minutes late.
This is due to congestion.

Re: Swindon <-> Westbury service updates and amendments, ongoing discussion - 2026
In "TransWilts line" [375799/31359/18]
Posted by bobm at 14:11, 6th June 2026
 
Well it was on time when I caught it at Melksham at 12:23.   

Re: Swindon <-> Westbury service updates and amendments, ongoing discussion - 2026
In "TransWilts line" [375798/31359/18]
Posted by TaplowGreen at 12:17, 6th June 2026
 
12:07 Westbury to Swindon due 12:49
12:07 Westbury to Swindon due 12:49 will be starting late from Westbury.
This is due to a fault on this train.

Re: New overnight train service at Gatwick to launch
In "North Downs Line" [375797/31828/16]
Posted by ChrisB at 10:27, 6th June 2026
 
For those departing & arriving very late or very early (before 0600), plus staff

Circumetnea, anyone ?
In "The Wider Picture Overseas" [375796/32102/52]
Posted by chuffed at 09:05, 6th June 2026
Already liked by GBM, Mark A
 
“I went to Riposto expecting the Circumetnea. The timetable said trains were running — even the night before.

I arrived to find the station silent, no train, no staff… just one man in hi‑viz strimming the platform edge.

He looked up, shrugged, and went back to the weeds.

A brand‑new hydrogen fleet on order, and the only thing running that day was the strimmer.”

New train in shed, no service, no timetable but by God the weed control was immaculate!!

Re: New overnight train service at Gatwick to launch
In "North Downs Line" [375795/31828/16]
Posted by John D at 08:28, 6th June 2026
 
Ok, happened to have a holiday booked to Southern Italy next April, and flights to Bari,  depart from Gatwick, so I thought great, let's look at new service.

But alas flight is 07:35 on a Saturday, and need to be at Gatwick about 05:30 to 6am.  Turns out to be completely useless as cannot use my local station (Bradford on Avon) to connect to the service.  In fact I can't even drive to another station to get a connection unless I drive for 1-2 hours.

So as far as I am concerned, completely pointless service.  Will just drive to airport (about 2 hours 20), and like last time I used Gatwick, I book early, get good deal in valet parking, and they charge my EV ready for drive home.

So if new service is not suitable for holiday makers who live in GWR territory, what is purpose of it ?

Re: Wokingham station - improvements, resignalling and siding - merged posts
In "South Western services" [375794/11448/42]
Posted by stuving at 23:40, 5th June 2026
Already liked by Mark A, GBM
 
I missed out my final report, from Sunday afternoon, showing the results of all that cleaning up. First, the final bits of work including refitting the last bits removed from the track (the trespass guards), and in the distance you can see that they hacked off a few bits of tree while the line was closed.  And the final fettle was to spread some aggregate on the box foundations. Not from the box itself - that was red brick, so a different colour. So they  must have brought in some other spoil to replace it.

And then they reopened the road over the crossing ... and the next day South-East Water closed the road 200 m away (again - it's one of their favourite hole sites). That means putting cones out and a "road ahead closed" sign for the level crossing, to try to stop HGVs coming across and having to turn round. But they still did (a car transporter was doing that as I went out shopping yesterday), so apparently the sign was change to a "road closed" and there have been complaints that access by residents was being prevented. Due to open tomorrow, they say.

BBC Exclusive access: Testing London's next-generation Piccadilly line trains
In "Transport for London" [375793/32101/46]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 23:14, 5th June 2026
Already liked by Mark A
 
From the BBC:

Exclusive access: Testing London's next-generation Piccadilly line trains

BBC London has been given exclusive access to the testing of the trains on closed sections of the Piccadilly line. Transport bosses say these are in technological terms some of the world's most advanced trains. Does the reality live up to the hype?

As the train pulls into the station, there are about 50 passengers with their phones out taking pictures.

The halo light around the cab gives it a hint of Darth Vader's TIE Fighter in the sci-fi classic Star Wars.

This is the new Piccadilly line train – or officially the 2024 Tube Stock - and it is causing a bit of a stir.

It is early in the morning and a 20-mile stretch of the line is shut, between Northfields in west London and Oakwood in north London. It is one of many weekend closures that may not be going down well with travellers but which Transport for London (TfL) says are necessary to test the new train and modify the infrastructure.

(BBC article continues, with many images)


Re: Ofcom research into mobile network and wifi performance on trains
In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [375792/32100/51]
Posted by bobm at 20:41, 5th June 2026
 
Interesting review of the report on the thinkbroadband site - full article here

https://www.thinkbroadband.com/news/ofcom-releases-report-on-poor-connectivity-on-trains

But
In conclusion, the issues of Wi-Fi and mobile service on trains are well known, and the solutions are already being tested and implemented. Has this report from Ofcom actually provided any value?

Re: Ofcom research into mobile network and wifi performance on trains
In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [375791/32100/51]
Posted by Mark A at 19:37, 5th June 2026
 
S'funny. I'm sure it's not long since the DfT were querying whether passengers actually needed wifi on trains - awkwardly, this was at a time when ticketing purchase via mobile phones was a rapidly emerging force.

Mark

Ofcom research into mobile network and wifi performance on trains
In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [375790/32100/51]
Posted by stuving at 17:46, 5th June 2026
 
Ofcom has published (3rd June) research done for them by Streetwave:
    New research reveals mobile performance was poor on between 58% and 83% of tests carried out on trains, depending on mobile network
    Watchdog calls for mobile companies, local authorities and others to step up as part of national effort to enhance the quality and reliability of mobile service across the country

Mobile networks typically offer a poor-quality service to train passengers, according to new research from the regulator Ofcom, which has today called for a nationwide effort to improve the state of mobile service in the UK.

Ofcom’s research measured mobile performance across 24 segments of key railway lines covering England, Scotland and Wales, making it the most comprehensive dedicated study available on the subject to date. It looked at how often a phone could achieve good performance, defined as minimum download speeds of 5 Mbits per second, upload speeds of at least 1.5 Mbits per second, and a response time of 50 milliseconds or less, which would typically let people make video calls, stream content or scroll social media [1].

The research found that EE met those standards on 42% of the segments of railway lines that were measured, Three on 21%, O2 on 20% and Vodafone on 17%.

The results, which reflect the reality for passengers on lines up and down the country, show that for too many people, stepping on board can mean going off grid.

The research highlights the core problem that mobile signal from masts on the ground often isn’t strong enough around train lines and that some carriage types are difficult for signals to pass through.

On-board Wi-Fi provided by train companies was also measured and performed well just 1% of the time. This was largely due to outdated technology delivering the service, as well as speed caps.

Separately, alongside the research, Ofcom has also today published Connectivity You Can Count On, a report on overhauling the quality of mobile service in UK wherever people live, work or travel.

It looks to build on the merger of Vodafone and Three, which has an important role in driving better outcomes, identifies areas for improvement, and calls for mobile companies, local authorities, big developers, Government and others to take coordinated action.

Today’s report is the latest move by Ofcom to push for better quality mobile service, following its role advising the Competition and Markets Authority on the approval of the merger, and the launch of its own Map Your Mobile coverage checker last year.

They link these results with other work they are doing on improving service quality information, as well as a bit of general arm-twisting about improving services.

There is a full report, which is rather technical, and full of numbers.

Because the report is essentially about the measurements, it does not really address the "who" and "why" questions (though some aspects are assumed). So nothing about DfT's role: since they have directly controlled spending since Covid, and micromanaged it before that, as well as defining service requirements, what we have got is what they asked for. Nor do they pose the question of whether or in what way the MNOs and users think about trains as just a part of the world the networks should serve, or something else, and whether wifi is seen as a fundamental human right or a service to be paid for.

Re: Prevention of reading and replying
In "News, Help and Assistance" [375789/32042/29]
Posted by grahame at 16:09, 5th June 2026
 
Thank you

It may be something to do with the way I read the forum?
I tend to right click and open 'Show unread posts since last visit' and 'show new replies to your posts' in new tabs.
Then I would go down and right click on the threads of interest etc.

I guess it is the opening of so many pages so quickly that is the problem?
I wonder if I open, then read one, then go to the next if that will solve the problem?

I am very grateful for you looking into this, I know what a nightmare a forum is behind the scenes, I recently upgraded the Bristol City forum, and had lots of little tweaks to make behind the scenes.


Yes - you've probably triggered it by the way you browse - which is AOK but not the usual metric to my knowledge. You may find less of a problem by making that change - but no absolute guarantee.   The timing relates to pages accessed in perhaps the last 5 minutes, and I have stepped that up from 10 to 15.  Once you hit the page you showed here, you may be blocked for uo to 10 minutes.

Indeed a lot goes on behind the scenes, but I enjoy it. Thank you for your patience on this one;  I may be away collecting pictures for "where am I" but I should still be addressing issues at least daily.

Greetings from ...

Re: Prevention of reading and replying
In "News, Help and Assistance" [375788/32042/29]
Posted by Phantom at 10:42, 5th June 2026
 
Thank you

It may be something to do with the way I read the forum?
I tend to right click and open 'Show unread posts since last visit' and 'show new replies to your posts' in new tabs.
Then I would go down and right click on the threads of interest etc.

I guess it is the opening of so many pages so quickly that is the problem?
I wonder if I open, then read one, then go to the next if that will solve the problem?

I am very grateful for you looking into this, I know what a nightmare a forum is behind the scenes, I recently upgraded the Bristol City forum, and had lots of little tweaks to make behind the scenes.

Re: East West Rail Timetable
In "Chiltern Railways services" [375787/29004/44]
Posted by ChrisB at 09:24, 5th June 2026
 
Well, well, well......but don't hold your breath quite yet!

From a written question in Parliament, answered yesterday by Lord Hendy....

To ask His Majesty's Government whether the first East West Rail services between Oxford and Milton Keynes Central via Winslow have been included in the base train timetable.

Answer

Answered on
4 June 2026

Chiltern worked with Network Rail, DfT and other operators on the December 2026 timetable and services have been timetabled between Oxford, Winslow, Bletchley and Milton Keynes. The Department continues to work closely with Chiltern Railways and other partners to confirm a start date for the first East-West Rail services between Oxford and Milton Keynes Central via Winslow.

Re: GWR accused of disrupting Wales-England train links
In "Across the West" [375786/32097/26]
Posted by Noggin at 08:19, 5th June 2026
 

The route was first approved by the rail regulator in 2022 after a drawn-out battle with Great Western Railway, which operates its own south Wales to London Paddington services and had opposed the application. The original proposals were submitted by Grand Union Trains, which secured regulatory approval before selling its rights to the route to FirstGroup in 2024.

Lumo – FirstGroup’s open access train brand – will now operate the service, running five return journeys a day between Carmarthen and London Paddington. The service will call at Llanelli, Gowerton, Cardiff, Newport, Severn Tunnel Junction and Bristol Parkway.

Could it be that First's team at GWR also see an issue with more though services to England from west of Cardiff reducing income for First's team at Lumo ... on beyond 2026 ...


Oh yes, I'd forgotten about that one. The tangled we we weave eh?

Re: HS2 and Northern Powerhouse Rail (NPR) - Government proposals, alternative routes, discussion
In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [375785/5138/51]
Posted by Electric train at 06:02, 5th June 2026
 
So what improvements would Plaid Cymru,Transport for Wales want?

It's in their manifesto  https://www.partyof.wales/y_rheilffyrdd#:~:text=Better%20and%20more%20frequent%20everyday,from%20Cardiff%20to%20the%20Heads

Re: Prevention of reading and replying
In "News, Help and Assistance" [375784/32042/29]
Posted by grahame at 06:01, 5th June 2026
Already liked by Phantom
 
OK ... the forum has a number of mechanisms to detect and stifle denial of service events from over-enthusiastic automata and one of those is to give a quick "you are asking too much, too quickly" response to them when a behaviour is detected.   Phantom - sorry - you have hit the detector button.

Typical human behaviour and typical automata behaviour differ and there is usually clear air between them, but just very occasionally there are patterns that fall into the middle ground; those patterns will tend to come up in a disproportionate way for well established members who know exactly where they are clicking and do so quickly.

I have moved the cutoff point to give you a little more leeway - raised the bar if you like.  I doubt it's going to stop you getting that page but it should happen less often.   I have my fingers crossed that it won't reduce the effectiveness of the DOS detector - keeping a watchful eye and there's an element of chance that we may see server load pushed up dramatically.  If that happens,  I will have to lower the bar again and look for other options.  Please keep me posted.

Re: HS2 and Northern Powerhouse Rail (NPR) - Government proposals, alternative routes, discussion
In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [375783/5138/51]
Posted by infoman at 04:02, 5th June 2026
 
So what improvements would Plaid Cymru,Transport for Wales want?

Re: Bridge hit - again "Freshford" = Limpley Stoke?
In "Portsmouth to Cardiff" [375782/32077/20]
Posted by grahame at 21:12, 4th June 2026
 
As well as re-instating the double track from Bradford Junction to Thingley Junction, would it make sense to re-instate the Thingley South to West curve, and then divert one of the three hourly Trowbridge to Bath trains that way?  Some sort of service retained every time the bridge at Limpley Stoke is out, direct Melksham to Bath and Bristol services, local trains running through Corsham (and one of their big flows is expected to be to Oldfield Park).  Just asking.

Re: The People's Emergency - film, free, 27.5.2026
In "Diary - what's happening when?" [375781/32079/34]
Posted by broadgage at 20:27, 4th June 2026
 
I have previously voted "Green" but the party no longer have my support, mainly because they are too far to the left.
In the recent years the "green" movement has become the latest re-incarnation of the hard left.

Re: Swindon <-> Westbury service updates and amendments, ongoing discussion - 2026
In "TransWilts line" [375780/31359/18]
Posted by bobm at 19:21, 4th June 2026
 
The latter pair were re-instated.

However now...

20:06 Westbury to Cheltenham Spa due 21:46

20:06 Westbury to Cheltenham Spa due 21:46 will be started from Swindon.
It will no longer call at Westbury, Trowbridge, Melksham and Chippenham.

This is due to a road vehicle colliding with a bridge.

21:16 Westbury to Swindon due 21:58

21:16 Westbury to Swindon due 21:58 will be cancelled.

This is due to a road vehicle colliding with a bridge.

22:31 Swindon to Westbury due 23:12

22:31 Swindon to Westbury due 23:12 will be cancelled.

This is due to a road vehicle colliding with a bridge.

Re: Bridge hit - again "Freshford" = Limpley Stoke?
In "Portsmouth to Cardiff" [375779/32077/20]
Posted by bobm at 19:16, 4th June 2026
Already liked by Mark A
 
I could tell you they hadn't but I'd be lying.  May not be until 8pm before staff are on site to inspect it.

Re: Bridge hit - again "Freshford" = Limpley Stoke?
In "Portsmouth to Cardiff" [375778/32077/20]
Posted by Mark A at 18:58, 4th June 2026
 
Please tell me someone's not just hit the thing again this evening...

Mark

Re: Prevention of reading and replying
In "News, Help and Assistance" [375777/32042/29]
Posted by Mark A at 18:51, 4th June 2026
 

Hi Grahame
Please see below, as requested


Ah ... that is NOT the message I would have guessed.  Taking a look as I get a chance.  Maybe overnight but as I missed it and it's waited a while anyway, another 20 hours won't be an issue.

I read that third sentence as "Maybe overnight bus as I missed it", conflated things with your current adventure, and broke into a cold sweat.

Mark

Re: GWR accused of disrupting Wales-England train links
In "Across the West" [375776/32097/26]
Posted by ChrisB at 16:54, 4th June 2026
 
Given that GWR will be back in public ownership later this year, it seems odd that they protested, other than under the instruction of someone senior at the DfT or GBR who didn't want to be seen directly interfering. So perhaps there's some kind of English/Welsh railway turf war going on?

Of course the Welsh could have sweetened the deal/mixed up things by offering to rebuild and return services to Pilning station and contribute to electrification of the Filton Bank. Hard to object to that.

For their part, GWR could quietly whisper in the ears of AM's how direct trains will make it more convenient for those in West Wales to fly from Bristol instead of Cardiff. That might provoke a few reactions.

Remember that the Welsh Government was their share of HS2 costs & this might be a way of achieving it....

 
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