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Shortages out of Paddington feel almost routine these days
In "Introductions and chat" [381658/32695/1]
Posted by grahame at 14:16, 6th November 2026
 
From the North Cotswold board, but for wider comment

There have been a fair number of five car short-forms this week including:

0523 Hereford to Paddington - Tuesday, Thursday and Friday
0818 Worcester Shrub Hill to Paddington - Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday and Friday
0953 Paddington to Hereford - Monday, Tuesday, Thursday and Friday
1953 Paddington to Hereford - Monday, Wednesday and Thursday

As a more general thing, we were at Paddington in the peak hour on Wednesday at the peak hour, and noted several trains being called as short formed down to 5 carriages, and on several we were told that there were no catering facilities.  There was a significantly late departure of the Great Malvern train, and neither my ticket nor Lisa's would operate the automatic barrier and we required staffing assistance to get through.  Things are not as we were lead to expect that they would be when the HSTs were being replaced.   Having said which, the staff were exemplary on the barrier and in offering to help us onto (and later off) the train, which ran on time to Chippenham.

Issues are not unique to the British system, mind you, and we experienced delays in every country we had been through.   Only one of those was significant, as a 45 minute late arrival into Ovideo meant that we had missed the 25 minute onward connection to the second (and last) train of the day to Navia and Ferrol.   Paddington to Chippenham on time, and we left there on time towards Melksham but had to wait for the single line.  Some things happen all too often!

Re: Class 175s to Great Western Railway (GWR)
In "Across the West" [381657/28982/26]
Posted by grahame at 13:35, 6th November 2026
 
If GWR had the patience with the 769s, now languishing in a field at Long Marston, that they have with the 175s the turbos at Reading would have gone west by now.

The 150s are not going to be replaced by 175s or a BEMU.

How are we doing on Welsh 158s?  Can they come, please, without the normal 2 years in a field?  And can we retain enough of the other old stuff as they arrive to have capacity to handle "more trains that normal require repair at the same time"?

The Coffee Shop servers are not teapots!
In "The Lighter Side" [381656/32694/30]
Posted by grahame at 13:30, 6th November 2026
Already liked by PrestburyRoad
 
From Mozilla Status Codes

418 I'm a teapot

The HTTP 418 I'm a teapot status response code indicates that the server refuses to brew coffee because it is, permanently, a teapot. A combined coffee/tea pot that is temporarily out of coffee should instead return 503. This error is a reference to Hyper Text Coffee Pot Control Protocol defined in April Fools' jokes in 1998 and 2014.

While originally defined in RFC 2324 as an April Fools' joke, this status code was formally reserved in RFC 9110 due to its wide deployment as a joke, so it cannot be assigned any non-joke semantics for the foreseeable future.

Some websites use this response for requests they do not wish to handle, such as automated queries.

You may see something like this if you are an automata ...



If you ARE real, and looking for our coffee (not tea, not hot chocolate, and not hot orange juice, port or sangria) and get this message, please let me know.

Re: Class 175s to Great Western Railway (GWR)
In "Across the West" [381655/28982/26]
Posted by bobm at 12:08, 6th November 2026
 
From Rail News

Rail minister Lord Hendy has condemned the common practice of leaving redundant rolling stock to deteriorate and then trying to use it again.

He said: ‘There’s nothing more stupid ...

... You can’t believe how stupid that is.’

Strong stuff! Wouldn't expect to hear that sort of language from a minister - a good sign?


.................only if he follows up by saying what he's going to do about it.

Or is he about to bow out?


Re: Drunk and dangerous e-bike riders face on-the-spot fines
In "Active travel: Cyclists and walkers, including how the railways deal with them" [381654/32691/50]
Posted by Ralph Ayres at 11:42, 6th November 2026
Already liked by grahame, TaplowGreen
 
Fines in isolation are useless; anybody convicted of these offences should have their eBike confiscated and crushed. And the same should apply to pedal cycle users.
Recycled/refurbished/resold/reused somehow please if the bike is legal to use. Crushing may be dramatic but is a horrible waste!

Re: Free bus plan in Guernsey scrapped over fear it would be too popular
In "Buses and other ways to travel" [381653/32685/5]
Posted by Clan Line at 11:35, 6th November 2026
 
Further to my post above......................on the same cruise, we spent a day in the Scilly Isles (St Mary's). We had pre-booked an electric golf cart for the day.  A great way to get round the island and "green" transport as well - recommended.

Re: Railway pubs ranked
In "Shorter journeys in South and West Wales" [381652/32693/23]
Posted by Witham Bobby at 10:06, 6th November 2026
 
I'm going to put a word in here for The Great Western in Wolverhampton

Smack outside the GW Wolverhampton Low Level Station, as was (now an "events space") and a short walk from the now only station called Wolverhampton

Fantastic.  Atmosphere.  Railway theme.  Genuine pub.  Real beers.

https://www.publocation.uk/pubs/west-midlands/wolverhampton/the-great-western

Re: North Cotswold line delays and cancellations - 2026
In "London to the Cotswolds" [381651/31371/14]
Posted by charles_uk at 10:01, 6th November 2026
 
There have been a fair number of five car short-forms this week including:

0523 Hereford to Paddington - Tuesday, Thursday and Friday
0818 Worcester Shrub Hill to Paddington - Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday and Friday
0953 Paddington to Hereford - Monday, Tuesday, Thursday and Friday
1953 Paddington to Hereford - Monday, Wednesday and Thursday

Re: Drunk and dangerous e-bike riders face on-the-spot fines
In "Active travel: Cyclists and walkers, including how the railways deal with them" [381650/32691/50]
Posted by Bob_Blakey at 09:02, 6th November 2026
Already liked by Witham Bobby, rogerw, GBM
 
Fines in isolation are useless; anybody convicted of these offences should have their eBike confiscated and crushed. And the same should apply to pedal cycle users.

Re: Does a the bus fare cap seriously jeopardise rail service use?
In "Buses and other ways to travel" [381649/32692/5]
Posted by Bob_Blakey at 08:55, 6th November 2026
Already liked by Witham Bobby, GBM
 
As usual the answer is probably 'it depends'.

For us the bus fare cap, whether £2 or £3, would have made no difference, and we would still be using the train between DIG & EXC for city centre trips. For these journeys we now use the bus purely because of our qualification for the National Bus Pass.
For journeys involving rail travel beyond EXC or EXD we still always use the train from/to DIG.

Current 'daytime' situation DIG<>EXC:
Bus: Single £3, Return £6, Home to bus stop walk 3 minutes, journey time 25-35 minutes depending on which of 3 available services is used, 2 of the services are opposing circulars running every 20 minutes while the third is an 'out & back' running half-hourly. The 2 circular routes depart the local stop at almost exactly the same time.
Train: Single £4.00 (£2.65 Railcard), Return £4.50 (£2.95 Railcard), Home to station walk 8 minutes, journey time 6-8 minutes (alternate services run non-stop DIG<>EXC), the service is essentially half-hourly clockface.

The train service punctuality (86.9%) & reliability (96.9%) - latest monthly snapshot data -  is generally pretty good. Overcrowding is very rare.
The bus service suffers from driver shortage cancellations, but this metric is improving, and delays due to the general level of road congestion in Exeter.

Re: Class 175s to Great Western Railway (GWR)
In "Across the West" [381648/28982/26]
Posted by REVUpminster at 08:25, 6th November 2026
 
If GWR had the patience with the 769s, now languishing in a field at Long Marston, that they have with the 175s the turbos at Reading would have gone west by now.

The 150s are not going to be replaced by 175s or a BEMU.

Re: Class 175s to Great Western Railway (GWR)
In "Across the West" [381647/28982/26]
Posted by TaplowGreen at 08:07, 6th November 2026
Already liked by JohnM, GBM
 
From Rail News

Rail minister Lord Hendy has condemned the common practice of leaving redundant rolling stock to deteriorate and then trying to use it again.

He said: ‘There’s nothing more stupid ...

... You can’t believe how stupid that is.’

Strong stuff! Wouldn't expect to hear that sort of language from a minister - a good sign?


.................only if he follows up by saying what he's going to do about it.

Re: Class 175s to Great Western Railway (GWR)
In "Across the West" [381646/28982/26]
Posted by JohnM at 07:50, 6th November 2026
 
From Rail News

Rail minister Lord Hendy has condemned the common practice of leaving redundant rolling stock to deteriorate and then trying to use it again.

He said: ‘There’s nothing more stupid ...

... You can’t believe how stupid that is.’

Strong stuff! Wouldn't expect to hear that sort of language from a minister - a good sign?

Re: Marlow Branch line, Marlow Donkey - services, engineering work, closures and incidents
In "Thames Valley Branches" [381645/168/13]
Posted by TaplowGreen at 07:34, 6th November 2026
 
Cancellations to services between Bourne End and Marlow

Due to a points failure between Bourne End and Marlow all lines are closed.
Train services running to and from these stations will be cancelled.

Disruption is expected until the end of the day.

Re: Late November and Christmas closure of Paddington & alternative travel options
In "Across the West" [381644/32677/26]
Posted by NickB at 23:34, 5th November 2026
 
Thank you. The bus sounds quite appealing so I’ll look into that.

Re: Railway pubs ranked
In "Shorter journeys in South and West Wales" [381643/32693/23]
Posted by ChrisB at 21:19, 5th November 2026
 
Is that pub / Tap still on Denmark Hill station n London - that was the best in the south east by far - and a major contender for the England No 1

Re: Does a the bus fare cap seriously jeopardise rail service use?
In "Buses and other ways to travel" [381642/32692/5]
Posted by LiskeardRich at 21:12, 5th November 2026
Already liked by Mark A
 
Forget rail.
It jeopardises the financial viability of bus services themselves. 40 passengers at £2 for an hour or two journey doesn’t cover the costs of the bus
It destroys commercial viability, and will push even the busiest routes into needed subsidy.

Re: Railway pubs ranked
In "Shorter journeys in South and West Wales" [381641/32693/23]
Posted by grahame at 20:53, 5th November 2026
 
A similar story from the Largs and Millport Weekly News

Wemyss Bay Station Bar named Scotland’s best railway pub

Re: Does a the bus fare cap seriously jeopardise rail service use?
In "Buses and other ways to travel" [381640/32692/5]
Posted by Mark A at 20:47, 5th November 2026
Already liked by grahame, Witham Bobby, GBM
 
For some journeys, even if the bus fare wasn't capped, coach services must still be a problem for the railway. Rail from Thurso is particularly unfortunate as the £2 coach can serve the ferry terminal whereas a ferry passenger travelling by rail, thinking of taxis, is likely to be having a tug of war with the school run,. Then there's the sparks effect of the "Electric coach vs diesel train' on a circuitous route" factor.

Oh, a few years ago and a two journey sample, north of Kinbrace, I've never had the opportunity to pay a rail fare. Paying on board, both times, for some reason, my card was fine, bought something from the catering trolley person, but the ticket machines refused to issue tickets.

Railway pubs ranked
In "Shorter journeys in South and West Wales" [381639/32693/23]
Posted by grahame at 20:46, 5th November 2026
 
From the County Times

Aberystwyth Wetherspoons is Wales’ best railway station pub

Yr Hen Orsaf, which is based inside Aberystwyth railway station, scored 68.3 out of 100 in research by Locals Insider, placing it 23rd among 46 station pubs included across the UK.

The Wetherspoon pub, whose name means The Old Station, was assessed on customer satisfaction, value for money, opening hours, convenience for rail passengers and its aesthetic.

The Draughtsman Alehouse at Doncaster Station topped the UK ranking with 84.1 points, followed by Codsall Station in Staffordshire on 78.0 and The North Western at Liverpool Lime Street on 76.8.

Martin Danemaq, spokesperson for Locals Insider, said: “A station pub can make or break a journey, whether you're killing time before a delayed train or meeting friends on the way home. Our ranking brings together the best of them, from grand city concourses to remote Highland platforms.

“Yr Hen Orsaf came out on top in Wales thanks to great value, long opening hours and a setting in Aberystwyth's historic station building.

Re: Does a the bus fare cap seriously jeopardise rail service use?
In "Buses and other ways to travel" [381638/32692/5]
Posted by grahame at 20:25, 5th November 2026
Already liked by Mark A, Witham Bobby
 
I remember spending a couple of days in Wick about 6 years ago and going to the station there to catch the morning train homewards, change in Inverness. Train was there, driver, catering crew but there was a problem - no guard, and the train left with the handful of passengers still on the platform.

A little research told us of the bus to Inverness and I and a couple others walked to where it left from, and took it to Inverness instead.  And rather sadly for rail, we got there at about the same time the train would have done, and connected into the train headed south. Oops - and it makes the train hard to justify for OUR journey.

There are, though, several dozen intermediate stations between Wick and Inverness, and the journey I recall certainly did not serve all those places on the bus ...

Does a the bus fare cap seriously jeopardise rail service use?
In "Buses and other ways to travel" [381637/32692/5]
Posted by grahame at 20:16, 5th November 2026
 
From The BBC

The £2 cap on bus fares in the north of Scotland could halt investment in rail services as passengers desert the more expensive train network, campaigners have said.

Ian Budd, convener of The Friends of the Far North Line, said the Scottish government had "effectively shot themselves in the foot" by capping bus fares, making them far less expensive than rail services covering the same route.

While a single bus journey from Thurso to Inverness now costs just £2, the same journey by train costs between £16.60 and £28.

Transport Scotland told the BBC it would continue to monitor the impact of the £2 bus fare cap on passenger numbers and wider transport behaviour.

Re: Class 175s to Great Western Railway (GWR)
In "Across the West" [381636/28982/26]
Posted by grahame at 20:09, 5th November 2026
 
From Rail News

Rail minister Lord Hendy has condemned the common practice of leaving redundant rolling stock to deteriorate and then trying to use it again.

He said: ‘There’s nothing more stupid than watching some trains halfway through their lives that have been parked in a field.

‘They’re put back into service, miserably failing on a daily basis because the industry wasn’t coherent enough to send them from the place they aren’t needed any more to the place they were. You can’t believe how stupid that is.’

He also referred to the age of the fleet which is in service, saying: ‘Every train in the north of England is clapped out. You need to replace them all. That’s a really serious investment choice, and GBR and the Government will have to face it head on.”

He was speaking at the annual conference of the Railway Industry Association.

GWR is currently struggling with its plan to introduce Class 175 units from Transport for Wales which were withdrawn a couple of years ago.

The operator wanted to use them on a number of routes in Devon and Cornwall, including the main line between Exeter and Penzance as well as the branches to Okehampton, Barnstaple and Newquay, but repeated failures mean that the older Class 150 units must shoulder the burden.

As a result, a Class 150 failure can mean that services in south west England must be reduced, with frequent cancellations.

Lord Hendy said the problems with rolling stock are something that Great British Railways ‘needs to fix, rather than just putting it on a long wish list’.

Re: £200m taxpayer-funded trains sit barely used for three years
In "Media about railways, and other means of transport" [381635/32690/49]
Posted by Mark A at 19:13, 5th November 2026
 
*snip*
When fully in use, and with the resultant improvements in frequency and journey times, the Valley Lines will have come full circle and have a network many will envy, and a huge improvement on the Pacers and Sprinters of the previous generation.
*snip*

In the new year last year, arriving at 7pm by bus from, er, Newtown into Merthyr Tydfil, finding the almost-at-zero degrees centigrade station with a little trepidation - at first the station was deserted, and then this petite and solid seemingly slightly smaller-than-life articulated(?) machine with of all things, a compact and enthusiastic thrash-carriage with an internal corridor - this vision ran smartly in to view and thankfully stopped at the platform. Overlit it may have been, warm its interior was, and move, it certainly did, and took me on the next leg towards home.

Re: Drunk and dangerous e-bike riders face on-the-spot fines
In "Active travel: Cyclists and walkers, including how the railways deal with them" [381634/32691/50]
Posted by bobm at 18:37, 5th November 2026
 
And physically catching them if they encounter them.  However there are trials going on with Smartwater sprays which tags them for a few days/weeks.

Re: £200m taxpayer-funded trains sit barely used for three years
In "Media about railways, and other means of transport" [381633/32690/49]
Posted by TaplowGreen at 16:55, 5th November 2026
 
Given the amount of untried technology on them I think a delay into service is much more understandable than, say the 701s on SWR.

5 years? Understandable? What is the nature of the untried technology?

I recommend reading/watching the following:

https://www.railengineer.co.uk/discontinuous-electrification-in-the-cardiff-valleys/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DfhoSvkayzk

Any chance of a brief summary? Youtube "clip" is 40 minutes long.

Re: £200m taxpayer-funded trains sit barely used for three years
In "Media about railways, and other means of transport" [381632/32690/49]
Posted by IndustryInsider at 15:24, 5th November 2026
Already liked by Mark A
 
Given the amount of untried technology on them I think a delay into service is much more understandable than, say the 701s on SWR.

5 years? Understandable? What is the nature of the untried technology?

I recommend reading/watching the following:

https://www.railengineer.co.uk/discontinuous-electrification-in-the-cardiff-valleys/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DfhoSvkayzk

Re: Drunk and dangerous e-bike riders face on-the-spot fines
In "Active travel: Cyclists and walkers, including how the railways deal with them" [381631/32691/50]
Posted by GBM at 14:28, 5th November 2026
Already liked by Marlburian, TaplowGreen
 
Great!
But there's no one around to enforce the fines.........

Re: £200m taxpayer-funded trains sit barely used for three years
In "Media about railways, and other means of transport" [381630/32690/49]
Posted by TaplowGreen at 11:58, 5th November 2026
 


Given the amount of untried technology on them I think a delay into service is much more understandable than, say the 701s on SWR.



5 years? Understandable? What is the nature of the untried technology?

Drunk and dangerous e-bike riders face on-the-spot fines
In "Active travel: Cyclists and walkers, including how the railways deal with them" [381629/32691/50]
Posted by Marlburian at 11:45, 5th November 2026

 
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