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Re: King Charles III - becoming a proficient barman
In "Introductions and chat" [377141/31289/1]
Posted by TaplowGreen at 14:42, 17th July 2026
 
King Charles III is becoming a proficient barman: a video news report, from the BBC, at https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/videos/c74gl17w1y2o

It's a video news item, so you'll need to click on that link to the BBC to enjoy it. 

Proficient? Still some way to go, Brian. The tide was out further on that pint than low tide at Weston-super-Mare!

You lower the glass down the swan neck as you reach the end of the main pour (displacement innit?) with one small final pull, with the sparkler just below the head, to top the ale off. Some ales benefit from a 60 second rest after the main pour for head formation.

JayMac: Bass Cellarman certificate awarded 1990. All my own work. I didn't have a wife 'helping'. 

................and what do you do? 

Re: Swindon <-> Westbury service updates and amendments, ongoing discussion - 2026
In "TransWilts line - Swindon, Chippenham, Melksham, Trowbridge, Westbury, Salisbury" [377140/31359/18]
Posted by TaplowGreen at 14:34, 17th July 2026
 
14:18 Westbury to Swindon due 15:01
14:18 Westbury to Swindon due 15:01 has been cancelled.
This is due to a fault on this train.

15:14 Swindon to Westbury due 15:58
15:14 Swindon to Westbury due 15:58 will be cancelled.
This is due to a fault on this train.

Re: Stonehenge - Love it or hate it?
In "The West - but NOT trains in the West" [377139/32211/31]
Posted by Clan Line at 12:40, 17th July 2026
 
Ambivalent. But would like to get my drone up there. Although that would be limited to the south of the stones as they are bisected by a No Fly Zone.

Best way to avoid the crowds !  I got this from a light aircraft - followed by a hard 180° turn to clear Boscombe Down airspace.


Re: Investigation into parking tickets for drivers queuing at petrol stations
In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [377138/32243/51]
Posted by Clan Line at 12:22, 17th July 2026
 
It must be remembered that a lot of these private parking companies are just former cowboy clampers in a suit and tie.

I've never wavered in my opinion of private parking companies. Scum of the earth.

Yes..............and No !

The basic problem is that for every "cowboy clamper" there is, there are thousands of "cowboy parkers". The current law is a mess because successive governments have tried to solve the parking problem with a one Law covers it all approach- it doesn't !!  I live in an apartment block, we have 2 car parks and a Private approach road. All of these are fair game for a cowboys looking to park somewhere for free. The only legal solution we have is to employ a parking company. Some of which are undoubtedly run by get-rich- quick merchants.
If you own a house with front on-site parking there is nothing you can do to stop other people parking there - other than a gate, a chain or some other physical barrier. If they are already there, you are powerless until they drive away.

If we (where I live) were allowed to clamp people parking on our property, the problem could be solved almost over night. No money involved - just clamp them and greatly inconvenience the parking cowboy. The message would soon get home when people realise that the property owner can use clamps - or similar.

Of course the problem is not helped by local Councils continually reducing the roadside parking times and upping car park fees - and then outsource the parking control to a bunch of potential cowboys  ...........but I won't do down that rabbit hole.

Re: Local government reorganisation across Oxfordshire
In "London to Didcot, Oxford and Banbury" [377137/32241/9]
Posted by CyclingSid at 12:22, 17th July 2026
 
... may have implications for transport, including rail, across the county. Article from the Oxford Clarion, which among other things wonders what now happens to the work done on the County Council's OxRAIL 2040 project.

Mark

https://oxfordclarion.uk/the-final-cut-its-three-councils/

If it happens West Berkshire will be happy that they don't have to have any connection with Reading. They probably moan that they didn't get there to include Swindon.

Can't many advantages to West Berks, it has been a unitary authority for over 30 years. Like the rest of Berkshire unitaries they were full of grand ideas until it cam to coughing up the money.

Re: Stonehenge - Love it or hate it?
In "The West - but NOT trains in the West" [377136/32211/31]
Posted by Mark A at 12:21, 17th July 2026
 
Think it was just about my only visit to Stonehenge, as a small child, despite the presence of the roads, the setting, sun-baked, impressed. As did, at one point, the passage overhead, low, of a large moth-shaped jet-powered aircraft, surreally thunderously skysplittingly noisy. I think I was about 14 before I heard something that loud again (a Lightning whose pilot saw fit to do a close pass across a Pembrokeshire hill-top...)

Mark

Re: Stonehenge - Love it or hate it?
In "The West - but NOT trains in the West" [377135/32211/31]
Posted by CyclingSid at 12:14, 17th July 2026
Already liked by Mark A
 
Was posted to the Royal School of Artillery at Larkhill. Had never been to Stonehenge, rolled over in the morning and saw this thing poking out of the snow (remember that stuff) ain't it small. Well it was at that distance!

Being a typical drunken squaddy tended to be more interested in the "cultural" lure of the The Stones pub on the roundabout at Durrington.

Visits since, recommend looking at Woodhenge, especially if you have had a chance read about the context of the sites https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Woodhenge. Would also not recommend paying the price of an official visit to Stonehenge if you have been there before, walk down the footpath from the bus stop at Larkhill. You only end up being about 10m further from the stones.

Personally I find the area more atmospheric in a cold damp drizzle, probably an ex-sqaddy affliction by time spent on Salisbury Plain Training Area.

Re: Stonehenge - Love it or hate it?
In "The West - but NOT trains in the West" [377134/32211/31]
Posted by Mark A at 11:53, 17th July 2026
 
One great merit of stonehenge, is the debunking of American conspiracy theories. A common one is that the earth has tilted upon its axis, and that the tilt is worsening. This is proved by the many persons who claim the sun now shines through previously shaded windows.
May be answered by "In England we have a very ancient monument (much older than america). The sun still rises in the same position, relative to the stones, as it has done for thousands of years"

This is good. Also looking forward to the long answer. :-)

Mark

Re: King Charles III - becoming a proficient barman
In "Introductions and chat" [377133/31289/1]
Posted by Clan Line at 09:27, 17th July 2026
 
King Charles III is becoming a proficient barman:

Perhaps not !  Today's Telegraph............



Re: Local government reorganisation across Oxfordshire
In "London to Didcot, Oxford and Banbury" [377132/32241/9]
Posted by Bob_Blakey at 09:26, 17th July 2026
Already liked by Mark A, Witham Bobby, eightonedee
 
Likewise Devonshire although we have raised Oxfordshire's plan by one council; Devon County Council and eight district councils together with the two existing unitary authorities - Plymouth & Torbay - are to be replaced by four new unitary authorities - 'Greater Exeter', 'Greater Plymouth', 'Greater Torbay' (I've no idea what they are actually going to be called) and Devon Coast & Countryside.

Personal Opinion Alert: I have always thought, and said so in the online consultation (using more polite language), that this was, is, and will remain a completely crap proposal. Largely driven by the self-serving administrations in Plymouth, Torbay & Exeter who were seemingly more interested in retaining their own influences rather than acting in the interests of all Devonians. I think this will lead to the three urban-centric authorities sucking up all the commercial & financial resources of Devonshire with the new Devon Coast & Countryside unit left to deal with the scraps of a largely rural community stretching from Ilfracombe (N) to Start Point (S) and Holsworthy (W) to Axminster (E), around 110 miles in each direction.

FWIW my view was that three unitary authorities centered around Exeter, Plymouth & Barnstaple would have been a better model, which would have allowed the total population of c. 1,260,000 to be split into three bits of roughly equivalent size. Does Torbay warrant being a unitary authority in it's own right? Nah!

Re: Investigation into parking tickets for drivers queuing at petrol stations
In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [377131/32243/51]
Posted by Bob_Blakey at 08:07, 17th July 2026
 
If the title of this thread is a true reflection of what is happening in some places on what planet is an 'investigation' required? Are we now being conditioned to not accept the evidence of our own eyes?

If it looks like a stalling tactic.....

Re: Stonehenge - Love it or hate it?
In "The West - but NOT trains in the West" [377130/32211/31]
Posted by broadgage at 07:32, 17th July 2026
Already liked by Mark A, Western Pathfinder, Oxonhutch, rogerw, Marlburian, eightonedee
 
One great merit of stonehenge, is the debunking of American conspiracy theories. A common one is that the earth has tilted upon its axis, and that the tilt is worsening. This is proved by the many persons who claim the sun now shines through previously shaded windows.
May be answered by "In England we have a very ancient monument (much older than america). The sun still rises in the same position, relative to the stones, as it has done for thousands of years"

Re: Swindon <-> Westbury service updates and amendments, ongoing discussion - 2026
In "TransWilts line - Swindon, Chippenham, Melksham, Trowbridge, Westbury, Salisbury" [377129/31359/18]
Posted by grahame at 06:30, 17th July 2026
 
20:06 Westbury to Cheltenham Spa due 22:06
Facilities on the 20:06 Westbury to Cheltenham Spa due 22:06.

This is due to more trains than usual needing repairs at the same time.
Will be formed of 2 coaches instead of 3.

Re: Help shape the future of GWR travel
In "Across the West" [377128/32240/26]
Posted by Trowres at 23:34, 16th July 2026
Already liked by Mark A
 
Whether it’s the ease of booking, the comfort of your seat, the confidence in your journey, or even what happens after you step off the train — we want to hear about it.

I can't help wondering how the customer profiling in the questions asked will be mapped onto the issues raised in the opening quotation.

Re: Andy Burnham elected to parliament, with a strong transport reputation
In "Looking forward - the next 2, 5, 10 and 20 years" [377127/32149/40]
Posted by JayMac at 22:39, 16th July 2026
 
Wait seven decades for a coronation, then two come along in three years

Yep. Labour 2026. LibDems 2024.

Three in the last four years if we include the Conservatives in October 2022.

Four in the last four years if you include Charles III.

If we're just looking at the top three (based on number of MPs) Westminster parties, they've changed leaders unopposed five times in the 21st century.

If we include Scottish, Welsh, Northern Irish and smaller parties then there have been at least 28 coronations in the 21st century. Theresa May was half coronated in 2016. She won the first ballot of Conservative MPs with all other candidates withdrawing before the wider membership voted.

Incidentally, the Liberal Democrats have to have a leadership election in the first year after every General Election. It's in their constitution.

Re: King Charles III - becoming a proficient barman
In "Introductions and chat" [377126/31289/1]
Posted by JayMac at 22:07, 16th July 2026
 
King Charles III is becoming a proficient barman: a video news report, from the BBC, at https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/videos/c74gl17w1y2o

It's a video news item, so you'll need to click on that link to the BBC to enjoy it. 

Proficient? Still some way to go, Brian. The tide was out further on that pint than low tide at Weston-super-Mare!

You lower the glass down the swan neck as you reach the end of the main pour (displacement innit?) with one small final pull, with the sparkler just below the head, to top the ale off. Some ales benefit from a 60 second rest after the main pour for head formation.

JayMac: Bass Cellarman certificate awarded 1990. All my own work. I didn't have a wife 'helping'. 

Re: Help shape the future of GWR travel
In "Across the West" [377125/32240/26]
Posted by WelshBluebird at 22:00, 16th July 2026
Already liked by Phil, Mark A
 
I don't think the wording of that fourth question was proof read!

Re: Investigation into parking tickets for drivers queuing at petrol stations
In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [377124/32243/51]
Posted by JayMac at 21:43, 16th July 2026
Already liked by Western Pathfinder, Oxonhutch, Fourbee
 
It must be remembered that a lot of these private parking companies are just former cowboy clampers in a suit and tie. Trying and failing to police themselves through independent (yeah right) appeals services. They have zero interest in getting their house in order as that doesn't bring in the moolah. You can be charged more for an alleged parking contract breach than court fines for a crime against the person.


I've never wavered in my opinion of private parking companies. Scum of the earth. That said, I'd like them to continue their shady practices for the moment. Because, like clamping on private land, legislation will finally catch up with them and put them out of business. As a start, local councils should be given the power to insist (through Section 106 orders) that new developments with public access car parks are not permitted to have third party parking 'management'. The landlord and/or tenant must do it themselves.
















Re: King Charles III - becoming a proficient barman
In "Introductions and chat" [377123/31289/1]
Posted by Oxonhutch at 21:38, 16th July 2026
Already liked by Mark A, Witham Bobby
 
King Charles III is becoming a proficient barman ...

A skill learned early on being a student geologist. Honed in my late student career when a large accounting company's recruitment event organiser closed the evening bar by the (they thought) simple expedient of removing the hotel barman.

I have to say, by the time I was rumbled, the CEO was hammered. Ooops !!

Happy days ...

Re: Help shape the future of GWR travel
In "Across the West" [377122/32240/26]
Posted by Oxonhutch at 21:27, 16th July 2026
 
Just arrived in my inbox from GWR

Re: Preston, Lancashire: woman dead, girl, 8, injured as train hits car at Hoghton
In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [377121/32170/51]
Posted by Oxonhutch at 21:22, 16th July 2026
 
Not far from where I grew up.

This sounds horribly like a wrong-side failure on the railway from the words given in the report.

OTD - On This Day, 16 July (1965) - Mont Blanc Tunnel opened
In "The Wider Picture Overseas" [377120/32244/52]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 18:49, 16th July 2026
 
From Wikipedia, see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mont_Blanc_Tunnel


Re: Preston, Lancashire: woman dead, girl, 8, injured as train hits car at Hoghton
In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [377119/32170/51]
Posted by stuving at 18:27, 16th July 2026
 
The RAIB's preliminary statement on this accident says that they believe the crossing warnings and barriers had not operated by the time the train arrived. We must await the results of the investigation to find out why.
At around 08:48 on 25 June 2026, the 07:51 Northern passenger service from Colne to Preston struck a car on Hoghton automatic half-barrier level crossing, which is situated between Preston and Blackburn. The driver of the car was fatally injured in the accident and a child who was a passenger in the car was also seriously injured. No injuries were caused to anyone on the train.

Hoghton level crossing is equipped with road traffic lights and an audible alarm for pedestrians, both of which are designed to activate automatically as trains approach. A short time after the lights and alarm activate, half- barriers at both sides of the crossing will automatically lower, to block the left-hand side of the road. 

The evidence available to RAIB shows that the train had passed a green (proceed) signal as it approached the crossing. RAIB’s preliminary examination also found that the road traffic lights and audible alarm at the crossing had not been activated, and that the half-barriers were raised.

Our investigation will determine the sequence of events that led to the accident and will include consideration of:

    the actions of those involved and any factors that may have influenced them
    any previous incidents at Hoghton level crossing
    the management of risk at this crossing
    any relevant underlying factors.

Our investigation is independent of any investigation by the railway industry or by the industry’s regulator, the Office of Rail and Road.

We will publish our findings, including any recommendations to improve safety, at the conclusion of our investigation. This report will be available on our website.

Re: Help shape the future of GWR travel
In "Across the West" [377118/32240/26]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 18:19, 16th July 2026
Already liked by grahame
 

I could - members know me - have written a chapter on each enquiry.


He usually does - I'm amazed that he managed to stop himself on this occasion.

CfN. 

Re: Andy Burnham elected to parliament, with a strong transport reputation
In "Looking forward - the next 2, 5, 10 and 20 years" [377117/32149/40]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 18:07, 16th July 2026
Already liked by JohnM
 
From the BBC:

Andy Burnham planning summer tour of UK in early weeks as PM

Andy Burnham will undertake a summer tour across the UK during the early weeks of his premiership.

Described as a "listening tour of the UK", Burnham will travel across the country in August while Parliament is in recess.

Among the areas understood to be on his itinerary is Port Talbot in south Wales, a town which saw the closure of its last steel-making blast furnace in September 2024.

The former Greater Manchester mayor will become prime minister on Monday but will not face MPs until September when the Commons returns from its six-week recess, unless he decides to recall Parliament.

Several Welsh Labour MPs have told BBC Wales that they understand Burnham intends to visit Port Talbot, once home to the UK's largest steelworks which has seen 2,800 job losses as it transitions to greener steel-making.

Some Welsh politicians have accused Labour of double standards, after it stepped in to save the British Steel plant in Scunthorpe in 2025 but did not do the same for Tata Steel's Port Talbot plant.

There are few details as to what policies Burnham will look to implement once in No 10, but a key part of his message thus far has been about devolving power away from Westminster towards local communities.

In a speech in Manchester at the end of June, the Makerfield MP made the case for more "powers to areas undergoing industrial transition, like Port Talbot, Scunthorpe and Aberdeen".

The Welsh Government has raised concerns that this might mean undermining devolution to Wales, with Plaid Cymru First Minister Rhun ap Iorwerth saying there were "signs" Burnham might want to bypass the Senedd and the Welsh government.

Some Welsh MPs have also requested that Burnham makes stops in their constituencies.

Tonia Antoniazzi, Labour MP for Gower, a peninsula in south Wales, said: "I'd love him to visit for a pint and a dip [in the sea] and hear first hand from my constituents what matters to them."

There are reports that Burnham will also visit Aberdeen, a city at the heart of the debate around the UK's energy future and home of GB Energy - the government's fledgling publicly-owned energy company.

The Conservatives won the recent by-election for Aberdeen South, held on the same day as the Makerfield election which Burnham won.

Burnham will become the leader of the Labour Party on Friday, having received support from the overwhelming majority of his party's MPs. He will replace Sir Keir Starmer as prime minister on Monday.

With Burnham entering No 10 without a general election or a leadership contest, his immediate priority will be to shore up support across the country as he sets out his vision for government.  He is also facing calls to connect to voters outside of London and the north-west of England.

Liberal Democrat leader Sir Ed Davey, who has dubbed Burnham "Avanti Andy" after the rail franchise that serves Manchester, said: ""From the Devon coast to Swansea's streets and Shetland's shores, people are utterly fed up with being overlooked.  Andy Burnham has a very short window to turn this government around, end the chaos and build trust with communities the whole length and breadth of the UK."

Commons Speaker Sir Lindsay Hoyle can recall Parliament during the summer recess if asked to do so by the government, once deciding whether it is in the public interest.

The Conservatives had planned to use their scheduled opposition day debate on Wednesday to force a vote on adding one sitting day, so that MPs could question Burnham about his plans for government.  But the debate was ditched by the government so MPs could debate the ongoing crisis in the Middle East instead.

Burnham has faced calls from some within Labour to offer more details on policies he will look to implement in government.

He has also faced accusations of avoiding media scrutiny since becoming an MP and announcing his intention to stand. He has so far given interviews to LBC and Gary Lineker, while he has also hosted an online Q and A session on Reddit.

During that Q and A, Conservative leader Kemi Badenoch challenged Burnham to "come out from hiding, face a proper press conference and submit yourself to scrutiny and some tough questions".

Burnham replied: Fair challenge Kemi - but don't forget it's only two weeks since I faced questions from 74,000 members of the public of Makerfield."


I don't see any reference to Melksham in Andy's itinerary, but you never know ... 


Investigation into parking tickets for drivers queuing at petrol stations
In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [377116/32243/51]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 17:40, 16th July 2026
Already liked by Witham Bobby
 
From the BBC:

Investigation into parking tickets for drivers queuing at petrol stations

One of the UK's largest private parking providers is being investigated by the competition regulator over whether parking tickets for drivers queuing at petrol forecourts are fair.

Euro Car Parks' broader appeals process relating to petrol stations and car parks is also being looked into, to determine if it breaches consumer protection law.

The investigation forms part of a wider crackdown by the Competition and Markets Authority (CMA) into potentially unfair practices by private parking operators.

Research by the RAC has suggested the number of tickets issued in places like gyms, supermarkets, restaurants and retail parks more than doubled in six years, to 14.4 million.

Motorists have complained about these parking issues, the CMA said, highlighting problems including unclear signage, faulty apps and broken ticket machines.

The regulator said it wanted to make sure drivers are being treated fairly following complaints from motorists who feel they've been unjustly issued with parking tickets.

The CMA says it has its own concerns about the way some operators are handling appeals, or attempting to make motorists pay additional fees on top of parking charges.  It has written to the sector as a whole, and issued warnings to some individual operators about their practices.

The CMA's executive director of consumer protection Emma Cochrane said receiving a parking ticket could be a stressful experience.  "Costs are high and often unexpected which is difficult when people are budgeting carefully," she said.

"Parking companies must treat motorists fairly at all stages – and a clear and consistent appeals process must be at the heart of this.  It's time for all private parking operators to comply with consumer law or risk action from the CMA."

In the open letter to private parking operators, the CMA warned they should review their terms and conditions and make changes if necessary to ensure they are complying with consumer law.

The CMA's investigation into Euro Car Parks is focusing on whether it is fair for drivers to receive parking charges while queuing for, or using, petrol pumps and other forecourt services such as car washes, plus its wider appeals process.

It is in the evidence gathering stage, and is set to run until Spring 2027.

Motorists on social media have expressed bafflement and frustration at receiving parking tickets for overstaying at petrol stations.

Some described receiving fines when they had been doing things including charging their electric vehicles. Others said they had received a ticket for apparently overstaying while putting air in their tyres and getting fuel. And some complained there was no signage obvious to them with the facility's rules.

Euro Car Parks has more than 3,000 facilities across the UK and Ireland, according to the company's website, with more than two million cars parking in their spots every day. The BBC has contacted Euro Car Parks for comment.

Which? consumer law expert Lisa Webb said it was positive to see the CMA launch its investigation.  "We often hear from people who feel frustrated and confused as they fight unfair charges and tickets issued by private parking operators, including for absurd reasons like queuing for a petrol pump or car wash," she said.

Jack Cousens, head of roads policy at The AA, said forecourts and parking operators need to allow motorists to get the fuel they need without being penalised "for simply waiting their turn".

"Drivers are already feeling the pinch with rising pump prices, so the last thing they'd want or expect is to be hit for a parking charge just for sitting in the queue," he said.

(BBC article continues)


Re: King Charles III - becoming a proficient barman
In "Introductions and chat" [377115/31289/1]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 17:14, 16th July 2026
 
King Charles III is becoming a proficient barman: a video news report, from the BBC, at https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/videos/c74gl17w1y2o

It's a video news item, so you'll need to click on that link to the BBC to enjoy it. 

Re: Paddington <-> Bristol: service updates and amendments - ongoing discussion
In "London to Swindon and Bristol" [377114/18525/10]
Posted by JohnM at 16:12, 16th July 2026
 
15:30 Bristol - Paddington departed at 16:05, showing as cancelled for Bath and Chippenham, Swindon 16:43 (scheduled 16:11), Didcot cancelled, Reading 17:11 (16:42), Paddington 17:33 (17:05).

16:00 Weston - Paddington showing Bristol 16:14 (16:00) and late for subsequent stops, but no cancellations, yet.


Re: Italy: Genoa bridge disaster - 14 August 2018
In "The Wider Picture Overseas" [377113/32238/52]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 15:53, 16th July 2026
 
An update, from the BBC:

Italian officials handed jail terms for Genoa bridge disaster that killed 43

The former head of Italy's motorway operator has been given a 12-year prison sentence over the collapse of Genoa's Morandi bridge in August 2018.

Prosecutors had asked for a far longer jail term for Giovanni Castellucci, ex-chief executive of Autostrade per l'Italia (Aspi).

Forty-three people died when the motorway bridge running through the city came down in a rain storm at the height of the holiday season, sending cars and lorries plummeting to the ground.

Castellucci, who is already serving a six-year jail term for a 2013 road disaster, was one of 57 defendants on trial in Genoa. Another top motorway official, Michele Donferri Mitelli, has been given 11 years in jail.

Emmanuel Diaz, whose brother Henry died in the bridge collapse told Italian TV he was "very satisfied" with the verdict, while Egle Possetti, whose sister and her family were all killed, said she thought the 12-year term handed to Castellucci was "acceptable".

Castelucci was not in court to hear the verdicts, read out by Judge Paolo Lepri. The former number two at the motorway operator, Paolo Berti, was handed a five-and-a half-year jail term, seven years less than prosecutors had sought.

In total, prosecutors had asked for the 57 defendants to be given 400 years in jail for failing to maintain the viaduct, which was built by Riccardo Morandi in 1967.

All the defendants had denied doing anything wrong.

While prosecutors had argued that maintenance of the ageing structure had been repeatedly delayed and that warning signs had been ignored, defence lawyers blamed the disaster on a design flaw, and the fact that a specific cable was encased in concrete.

(BBC article continues)


 
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