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Re: HS2 and Northern Powerhouse Rail (NPR) - Government proposals, alternative routes, discussion
In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [375279/5138/51]
Posted by TaplowGreen at 16:06, 19th May 2026
 
From the BBC:

HS2 could cost up to £102.7bn and may not open until 2039, transport secretary Heidi Alexander says

(BBC coverage includes video clips and is being updated frequently)


Click on the link to the BBC to view the latest update of their developing news item.

CfN.

Helps to put it into perspective - HS2 is now expected to cost more than NASA's Artemis moon mission!

(And there'll probably be men on Mars before it starts running into Euston if the BBC article is accurate!)

https://www.independent.co.uk/bulletin/news/hs2-slower-speeds-costs-heidi-alexander-b2979336.html

Re: HS2 and Northern Powerhouse Rail (NPR) - Government proposals, alternative routes, discussion
In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [375278/5138/51]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 15:55, 19th May 2026
 
From the BBC:

HS2 could cost up to £102.7bn and may not open until 2039, transport secretary Heidi Alexander says

(BBC coverage includes video clips and is being updated frequently)


Click on the link to the BBC to view the latest update of their developing news item.

CfN.

Level crossing waiting times
In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [375277/32049/51]
Posted by froome at 15:39, 19th May 2026
 
I have had to wait a fair while at several level crossings over the years, but taking a trip to London this weekend with my folding bike I found one that beat them all. I took a train to Mortlake and then had to cycle south, crossing the level crossing, and later had to return that way (though not to catch the train). Sadly I didn't actually time my waits, but I'm sure the wait from exiting the station was well in excess of ten minutes, and 5 trains crossed during that period. When I returned a few hours later. as I cycled along Mortlake High Street there was a long queue of vehicles waiting, and I thought to myself "That's good, I won't have to wait that long this time." How wrong I was. The wait was at least as long as the wait in the morning, and several of the people waiting around me were getting extremely frustrated judging by their calls on their phones they were having. There seemed to be a gap of well over 5 minutes (it felt like about ten) when no train passed by, and people just couldn't understand why the crossing didn't open.

Yes this crossing, and others I have had to wait at for several minutes, had footbridges alongside, but they are always very steeply graded steps, of no use at all to those with mobility issues or heavy luggage or cannot manage their bike and luggage up steps that steep. On the return journey, I noticed that several pedestrians and some cyclists, who had been waiting longer than me, eventually gave up waiting and tried the footbridge route, not all with success.

So I wondered which crossings people have found themselves having to wait for the longest times. Before this experience, my longest have been when visiting Lincoln, and using the crossing immediately west of the station. I also travel to Shoreham-by-Sea a lot and that can involve long waits at the crossing next to the station, though on average it isn't usually too bad.

Re: Railways Bill 2025: introducing and designing Great British Railways - general topic
In "Looking forward - the next 2, 5, 10 and 20 years" [375276/31038/40]
Posted by Witham Bobby at 14:38, 19th May 2026
 
On X there is a video of a class 387 painted in the new GBR livery leaving the shed  at the depot near Brighton.

Sorry that livery just doesnt look right

I can't think of a single railway vehicle on which this livery would look like anything other than a tacky toothpaste tube

Re: Railways Bill 2025: introducing and designing Great British Railways - general topic
In "Looking forward - the next 2, 5, 10 and 20 years" [375275/31038/40]
Posted by anthony215 at 14:21, 19th May 2026
 
On X there is a video of a class 387 painted in the new GBR livery leaving the shed  at the depot near Brighton.

Sorry that livery just doesnt look right

Re: WH Smith: their presence in railway stations and other locations - merged topics
In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [375274/22143/51]
Posted by IndustryInsider at 14:16, 19th May 2026
 
Selling things expensively that people no longer want and/or can obtain much more cheaply elsewhere - they've never evolved - going the same way as Woolworths, BHS etc

Absolutely.  The ‘meal deal’ isn’t terrible value (but better quality is available at most stations at a higher price) and there are often £1 bottles of fizzy drink available as a promotion.

Otherwise people no longer buy books or magazines for their journey, preferring to ‘doom scroll’ on their mobile devices instead.  Even the hoards of magazine browsers (i.e. standing in the way of everyone else and reading it cover to cover before putting it back) have long since gone!

Re: GSMR outage - 19/05/2026
In "Across the West" [375273/32048/26]
Posted by TaplowGreen at 13:05, 19th May 2026
 
Didn't the same thing happen less than a fortnight ago?

GSMR outage - 19/05/2026
In "Across the West" [375272/32048/26]
Posted by Witham Bobby at 12:48, 19th May 2026
 
Cancellations to services on all routes
Due to a fault with the signalling system trains have to run at reduced speed.
Train services running across the whole Great Western Railway network may be cancelled or delayed. Disruption is expected until 15:00 19/05.

Customer Advice
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What has happened?
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We have had a nationwide GSMR outage
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What are we doing about it?
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We are working with Network Rail to implement a solution.

Re: Railway bridges struck by road vehicles - merged topic, ongoing discussion
In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [375271/8910/51]
Posted by Clan Line at 12:00, 19th May 2026
Already liked by Chris from Nailsea
 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cgjpnww69pqo

You can perhaps understand a lorry driver with a high trailer behind him...............but when the "high point" is inches above your own head.....................Darwin Award

Re: If it's Sunday it must be ...
In "The Lighter Side" [375270/32036/30]
Posted by stuving at 10:09, 19th May 2026
Already liked by grahame
 
I'm not sure that near Hengelo the category "international station" means any more than "big Dutch station". Anyway, no. 3 is Enschede - the tradesman's entrance. Right down the east end is a non-electric bit of platform that German DMUs from Münster are allowed into, if they knock and ask politely.

A carefully framed shot, I think - you would not think that the contact wire just ends before reaching the red train. But in that part of the world the wire can't continue in use anyway; electrification (on classic lines) always changes at a border - even Luxembourg's.

Line closure Swindon - Bristol Parkway 6 July - 2 August & 8-9 Aug
In "London to South Wales" [375269/32047/11]
Posted by John D at 09:52, 19th May 2026
 
Been announced that direct line via Chipping Sodbury and Badminton will be closed for a month this summer.

Trains will be diverted via Chippenham and Bath (no doubt with usual congestion delays)

Track renewals, structural repairs and drainage work will impact train services between London and South Wales.

Trains still run between London Paddington and Swansea, Carmarthen or Pembroke Dock using an alternative route – extending journey times by around 25 minutes.

The frequency of services between London and South Wales will be reduced to hourly due to the longer journey times diverting trains via Chippenham instead.

Additional services will also be provided between London Paddington and Swindon by extending some trains between London Paddington and Didcot Parkway.

Replacement road transport is not planned as train services will still be operating between Swindon and Bristol Parkway.

https://www.gwr.com/travel-information/travel-updates/planned-engineering


Re: First day report and ramblings - Bristol <-> Oxford, 6 days a week, 18.5.2026
In "Oxford, Didcot and Reading from the West" [375268/32045/22]
Posted by Bob_Blakey at 09:07, 19th May 2026
Already liked by Witham Bobby, GBM
 
A very interesting, informative, thread so far and a microcosm of (some of) the wider UK rail network's current issues, to wit:

Having to run 'hybrid' rolling stock along an E2E route when, if government and the industry had done their jobs properly, a fully electric service should be in place. (Thanks Mr. Grayling, you muppet!)

Insufficient platform capacity at busy stations.

Inappropriate track configuration at stations, particularly locations where trains reverse; operational efficiency should surely dictate that at Oxford, for example, the station footprint should have at least one central turnback siding which allows access to both 'Up' & 'Down' routes with minimal, or preferably zero, impact on other services. The north-eastern end of Exeter Central is another place where this should have happened; trucking empty stock the 2.5 miles (around 20-25 minutes of train crew time) to & from the stabling point near Exmouth Junction cannot possibly be best practice.

Network Rail failing to rectify faults, particularly with the signalling, in a timely manner.

Financial losses exacerbated by the failure of staff to deal with fare evasion properly.


Re: Avanti West Coast
In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [375267/26644/51]
Posted by ChrisB at 08:46, 19th May 2026
 
It's early & late services that will take the cuts - an hour to wait rather than 30mins or 20mins....

Re: WH Smith: their presence in railway stations and other locations - merged topics
In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [375266/22143/51]
Posted by TaplowGreen at 08:40, 19th May 2026
 
Wiliam Henry Smith would be turning in his grave if he saw how his shopfront at Oxford Station was doing in comparison to the other outlets and facilities there. 



 

 

 

 

Selling things expensively that people no longer want and/or can obtain much more cheaply elsewhere - they've never evolved - going the same way as Woolworths, BHS etc

Re: Avanti West Coast
In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [375265/26644/51]
Posted by TaplowGreen at 08:38, 19th May 2026
 
I don't think this is a major issue.

I use these services every few weeks on business to and from Euston/Manchester and certainly mid morning/afternoon services both ways often seem very quiet and underused - they are very long trains and very frequent from Euston/Manchester (every 20 minutes) so I think a reduction during the holiday period shouldn't create too much hardship, and indeed should save money.

Re: Some good examples of how they do it in Germany
In "The Wider Picture Overseas" [375264/32037/52]
Posted by CyclingSid at 07:20, 19th May 2026
 
Thanks Graham.

A blast from the (distant) past. Dulmen, Recklinghausen, can no longer remember their functions within BAOR, a general Ordnance Depot and a Vehicle Depot the internet suggests.

Needless to say DB wasn't quite so posh then.

Re: New Oxford - Bristol direct service, ongoing developments and discussion
In "Oxford, Didcot and Reading from the West" [375263/28355/22]
Posted by IndustryInsider at 06:53, 19th May 2026
Already liked by Western Pathfinder
 
It was an excellent opening day.

All train ran, none of them at any intermediate stop were more than 8 minutes late, and the biggest delay at destination was 4 minutes, with the majority arriving on time or early.

I’m sure there will be much worse days to come, but even our resident ‘negative Nancy’ had to rather scrape the barrel to find something adverse to post. 

Re: First day report and ramblings - Bristol <-> Oxford, 6 days a week, 18.5.2026
In "Oxford, Didcot and Reading from the West" [375262/32045/22]
Posted by grahame at 03:25, 19th May 2026
 
I suspect the fifth platform will need to be operational before an hourly Bristol service can be considered. 

I'm not so sure ... the little issues / congestion of one service every 2 hours yesterday (and on, so far a statistically insignificant sample) was well clear before the next arrival - park - depart sequence.  And I suspect that the timetable work is broadly in place - I notice that the Saturday service runs the other hour, and with the intermediate train running numbers.  In effect there is already an hourly service timetabled, with alternate trains running Monday to Friday and Saturdays only.  "Just" needs trains and crew ??

Re: New Oxford - Bristol direct service, ongoing developments and discussion
In "Oxford, Didcot and Reading from the West" [375260/28355/22]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 23:49, 18th May 2026
 
Thank you for joining us on the Coffee Shop forum, rowan roaming, and for your first post.

Please do continue to read our topics, and take hope from them.

Best wishes, Chris from Nailsea.


Re: New Oxford - Bristol direct service, ongoing developments and discussion
In "Oxford, Didcot and Reading from the West" [375259/28355/22]
Posted by rowan roaming at 22:35, 18th May 2026
Already liked by Oxonhutch, PrestburyRoad, IndustryInsider, Red Squirrel, ChrisB, grahame, rogerw, Phantom, Witham Bobby, froome
 
Hello. I am someone who has been commuting from Oxford to Bristol twice a week for the past 13 years. I have got to know the route and Didcot waiting room well over the years. I am sole carer of a little girl and the frustrations and failures of the Didcot Dance have left me in tears on Didcot platform countless times, begging train managers to try to hold the train on platform 5, and, once, resorting to taking a taxi back to Oxford. I also became friends with a nice GWR worker called Spencer a few years back, who suggested that he thought one day the direct trains would come back. Another time, I was given Mark Hopwood's Didcot address by a sympathetic train manager, though I never did find the time to write. One of the most frustrating things has been to see how daft the timetables are (either the long wait on the cold platform at Didcot or the ludicrous and dangerous run from one platform to the other) and to experience this country's obsession with London when, on several occasions, those of us due to come off the train from Bristol at Didcot were told it would not be stopping there, presumably lest it inconvenience London commuters.

The expertise and insider info of this forum has kept my hope alive. So thank you! The irony being, however, that the week the direct train arrived I do not in fact need to travel in. I am wondering whether to travel in one day anyway, just for the sheer novelty of it.

Re: Avanti West Coast
In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [375258/26644/51]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 21:47, 18th May 2026
Already liked by Mark A
 
From the BBC:

Avanti West Coast to cut services to save money


The company usually runs 248 daily services on the affected routes - Image © Avanti West Coast

One-in-seven rail services will be cut on Avanti West Coast's busiest routes following a government request to reduce expenditure, the operator has said.

About 38 daily weekday services will be removed from timetables during a six-week period from 20 July. The company usually operates 248 daily services on the affected routes, which connect London Euston with Birmingham, Liverpool and Manchester, via the West Coast Main Line.

Avanti West Coast said it had proposed removing some services with lower demand in response to a request from the Department for Transport (DfT) to cut costs. A spokesperson for the DfT said: "This will save taxpayers money while still meeting passenger demand for seats."

The spokesperson also said: "The Secretary of State has accepted Avanti's short-term proposals to amend its weekday summer timetable, when passenger numbers are considerably lower and many trains run with large numbers of empty seats."

Avanti West Coast - a joint venture between FirstGroup (70%) and Italian state operator Trenitalia (30%) - predicted the move would cause minimum disruption to passengers and not reduce revenues.

All train services operated under DfT contracts are being transferred to public ownership. But companies such as Avanti West Coast - which has yet to lose its services - have their finances heavily influenced by the DfT.

This is because of contracts introduced in March 2020 at the start of the Covid-19 pandemic.

An Avanti West Coast spokesperson said: "From 20 July to 28 August we will be operating an amended timetable between London and Birmingham, Liverpool and Manchester on weekdays.
 To ensure minimal impact to those travelling between the affected dates, these changes will only affect routes on which we operate more than one train per hour - during typically less busy periods of the day - maximising alternative journey options. We'd like to encourage customers planning to make journeys during this time to plan ahead, and thank them for their understanding."

Affected services are being removed from online ticketing services before becoming available for purchase.

Avanti West Coast temporarily slashed its timetables in August 2022 in an attempt to reduce short-notice cancellations after a sharp decline in the number of drivers voluntarily working overtime on rest days during industrial disputes across Britain's railways. It has since boosted its capacity beyond pre-coronavirus levels.

The operator said the latest reduction in services was not because of a lack of resources.

Office of Rail and Road figures show government funding of the rail industry's operations was £11.9bn in the year to the end of March 2025. That was down 7% from £12.7bn during the previous 12 months, but remained 47% above the total of £8.1bn in 2019/20. Last year's spending represented 46% of the industry's costs, with fares revenue funding the vast majority of the rest.

In January 2024, Avanti West Coast apologised after taxpayer funding was described as "free money" during an internal meeting with managers. Novara Media, which first reported the incident, published an image showing a presentation slide with the title: "Roll-up, roll-up -get your free money here!" Another slide explained how train operators are paid bonuses by the government even if services are not run completely to schedule, under the service quality regime.


Re: First day report and ramblings - Bristol <-> Oxford, 6 days a week, 18.5.2026
In "Oxford, Didcot and Reading from the West" [375257/32045/22]
Posted by bobm at 20:51, 18th May 2026
 
I suspect the fifth platform will need to be operational before an hourly Bristol service can be considered. 

Re: The Rise and Fall of Britain's Strangest Railway - Seashore Electric Railway
In "Railway History and related topics" [375256/32046/55]
Posted by bradshaw at 20:35, 18th May 2026
 
At low tide the remains of the tracks can still be seen
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Former_track_of_Daddy_longlegs_20060709.jpg

Re: Lighthouses in the West - expanded topic heading
In "The Lighter Side" [375255/32040/30]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 20:15, 18th May 2026
Already liked by rogerw
 
I wish I'd never started this topic ...

The Rise and Fall of Britain's Strangest Railway - Seashore Electric Railway
In "Railway History and related topics" [375254/32046/55]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 20:10, 18th May 2026
 
From a twelve and a half minute item from YouTube:

The Rise and Fall of Britain's Strangest Railway

Of all the railways the Victorians built, only one was ever laid on the sea bed. The Seashore Electric Railway (a.k.a. 'Daddy Long-legs') was a train-boat-pier hybrid, allowing passengers to enjoy England's coast from above the waves. But the route was plagued by a harsh coastal environment and financial struggles, lasting just a few years before being left abandoned—one man's wild invention that eventually clashed with reality. Let's take a look at the Seashore Electric Railway's origins, construction, operational challenges, and what eventually happened to Britain's strangest railway.


Re: Lighthouses in the West - expanded topic heading
In "The Lighter Side" [375253/32040/30]
Posted by JayMac at 20:00, 18th May 2026
Already liked by GBM
 
Why did you have a foghorn in your holiday caravan?

Mark

I can hear a Les Dawson mother-in-law joke in my head.

Re: Lighthouses in the West - expanded topic heading
In "The Lighter Side" [375252/32040/30]
Posted by Mark A at 19:55, 18th May 2026
Already liked by JayMac, Witham Bobby
 
Why did you have a foghorn in your holiday caravan?

Mark

Re: London Tube strikes by RMT - ongoing developments in early 2026
In "Transport for London" [375251/31740/46]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 18:54, 18th May 2026
 
I have now, sigh, merged and renamed those topics into this one.

My thanks to the RMT. 

Re: London Tube strikes by RMT - ongoing developments in early 2026
In "Transport for London" [375250/31740/46]
Posted by TaplowGreen at 18:04, 18th May 2026
 
There's also the previous thread on this subject, when last month's strikes were announced - so were those for May (now Cancelled) & June (now moved). That subject line may need an edit too.

https://www.firstgreatwestern.info/coffeeshop/index.php?topic=31740.0



Think you'll find they've been rescheduled for 2-4 June rather than 4-6.

 
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