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Re: Heart of Wessex Line - service issues (merged posts)
In "Heart of Wessex" [360123/20209/19]
Posted by matth1j at 10:06, 3rd April 2025
 
Not sure if this is the correct thread...

0450 Fratton to Bristol Temple Meads
This service was cancelled due to a problem with the traction equipment (MD).

(was hoping to catch 0646 Trowbridge)

Re: [OTD] Senior Railcard launched 1st April 1975
In "Fare's Fair" [360122/30092/4]
Posted by Witham Bobby at 09:38, 3rd April 2025
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…. Our BR weekly pay packets were made up with £1 notes during the time the offer was running, who remembers being paid weekly cash in hand and £1 notes?

Brown envelope 3 by 4 inches, with top corner missing so notes ( incl. £1 note) could be counted and a cellophane window at the front so the coins could be identified and counted. Any problems, returned sealed envelope to pay clerk for a recount. Once the seal was broken, you owned any discrepancy.

Brought round to signalboxes on early turn by one of the managers in the yellow Ford Escort.  Pay packets left in the desk for the signalmen who would turn up for later shifts.  I don't remember being asked to sign for them, or anything like that.  It was in the days of our (sadly gone) high trust society

Re: Changes to the Highway Code
In "Active travel: Cyclists and walkers, including how the railways deal with them" [360121/25290/50]
Posted by Witham Bobby at 09:33, 3rd April 2025
 
I've still got my Driving Licence little red booklet, with typewritten renewal tickets stuck into it at County Hall, Taunton.  The last renewal of it was 1979

Just had to renew the horrid plastic card on the approach to 70.  To avoid going through the pfaff of a doctor's certificate, I've had to give up the lorry driving bit of the licence.  Seems a shame, but I'm probably not going to need it

Transport in the West of England - Hustings for the next WECA Mayor
In "Bristol (WECA) Commuters" [360120/30100/21]
Posted by Red Squirrel at 08:50, 3rd April 2025
 
I attended this event at the Watershed, Bristol, last evening.

Five of the six candidates for WECA Mayor were present:

Helen Godwin, Labour
Steve Smith, Conservative
Mary Page, Green
Oli Henman, Liberal Democrat
Ian Scott, Independent

Reform's candidate Arron Banks was also invited. Social media posts had apparently indicated that he would come, leading to enhanced security and an anti-racist protest outside the venue, but he did not attend.

The candidates were asked questions such as: How did you get here this evening? (Steve Smith came by bus, Oli Henman took a train from Bath; I think the others all drove).

They all supported Bus Franchising and expanding the local rail network. Steve Smith opposed the Park Street Bus Gates and bus lanes on the Keynsham Bypass.

In summing up, Helen Godwin stated that while all the candidates (present!) were in broad agreement about what needed doing, a Labour Mayor under a Labour government was most likely to be able to deliver.

There's a full write-up by Bristol 24/7 here: https://www.bristol247.com/news-and-features/news/ebln-lessons-reducing-car-dependency-weca-mayoral-hustings/

Oh, and full disclosure: I went by bus. But it was the last bus from Failand, at just before 6pm - so the only way back was to get Mrs Squirrel to give me a lift!

Re: Extreme Day Trips
In "Buses and other ways to travel" [360119/30054/5]
Posted by grahame at 07:46, 3rd April 2025
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You've been lucky.  My experience in recent years is that the security check can be fast and can be very slow.  So I have to allow a long time for it because I don't want to miss my flight.  It's just one of the airport processes I have to undergo and over which I don't have control.  All of this adds to my jaundiced view of flying nowadays.

Forgetting any security at checkin - what about immigration checks on arrival?  Sometimes very quick, but certainly (2023?) I have had to queue at both Catania and Dresden having flown in with a low cost airline.   And - though on a cruise - the USA immigration at New Orleans managed to cut two full days in the city on our cruise down to an evening and a day as it took them six hours to process everyone coming off the ship.   At least we were called off in stages, but it was still painful - literally - for those who are not "disabled" but cannot stand for hours. 

Long overseas day trips are NOT for me personally any more. Part is environmental.  Part is that I prefer to have the freedom to get up and walk around rather then being packed in (and, yes, a prefer a train with 40% seats taken than 90%).  Part is the time and procedures at the airports.  Part is the home to airport and back journeys, and the delicacy of public transport connections to the final service of the day.  And part is wanting to spend longer there.

Lisa and I are planning a trip.  But not day - fortnight.  And not flying - trains and ferries. 

Re: Daily Mile - coming to Melksham for April
In "Active travel: Cyclists and walkers, including how the railways deal with them" [360118/30078/50]
Posted by grahame at 07:31, 3rd April 2025
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Two days in.


1st April 2025


2nd April 2025

did any one attend this rail event in Cardiff
In "Shorter journeys in South and West Wales" [360117/30099/23]
Posted by infoman at 01:48, 3rd April 2025
 
https://peloton-events.co.uk/rail-cymru-conference-2025/

would any one know who was the Welsh Government – senior official that was expected to speak?

Re: [OTD] Senior Railcard launched 1st April 1975
In "Fare's Fair" [360116/30092/4]
Posted by infoman at 01:43, 3rd April 2025
 
I think the poster said at the time

over 60? get senior citizen railcard

Underneath someone scrawled driven by a driver who is 65

Re: Changes to the Highway Code
In "Active travel: Cyclists and walkers, including how the railways deal with them" [360115/25290/50]
Posted by infoman at 01:35, 3rd April 2025
 
just wondering if there any countries in the World that don't require a driving licence


Re: On this day. South Australia's triple decker train experiment.
In "Railway History and related topics" [360114/30090/55]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 22:35, 2nd April 2025
 
Saw this fascinating story on Facebook earlier today.

On the 1st of April, 1952, Adelaide’s railway network played host to one of the most ambitious and baffling experiments in public transport history—the triple-decker train. Conceived as a bold tourism initiative to showcase South Australia’s landscapes from an elevated perspective, these towering locomotives were designed to revolutionise rail travel and bring visitors flocking to the state.


Each train featured three stacked levels of passenger compartments, with the topmost deck offering panoramic windows for breathtaking views of the Adelaide Hills, the rolling Barossa vineyards, and the vast outback beyond. The middle level provided standard seating, while the lower level was reserved for dining cars and, in a questionable design choice, bicycle storage.
However, the reality of the triple-decker train was far less glamorous than intended. Almost immediately, problems arose. The sheer height of the carriages made them unstable on curves, leading to alarming swaying at high speeds. Station platforms had to be hastily modified to accommodate the additional boarding levels, causing chaos for commuters attempting to board the correct deck. The most infamous incident occurred when a top-level passenger, reaching for his morning newspaper, found himself in an unfortunate standoff with an overhead bridge near Blackwood.

Furthermore, tunnels proved to be an insurmountable challenge. Plans to lower the train tracks through the Adelaide Hills were briefly considered before engineers realised this would essentially require digging a second, deeper railway network—an idea even the most optimistic officials had to concede was impractical.

After just six months of service, the project was quietly abandoned, with the remaining triple-decker trains repurposed as static dining venues in country towns (one rumoured to still exist as a long-forgotten chicken coop in the Clare Valley). While it may not have succeeded, the experiment remains a fascinating and forgotten chapter in South Australia’s transport history.

I, too, still get the original image.

Re: Extreme Day Trips
In "Buses and other ways to travel" [360113/30054/5]
Posted by PrestburyRoad at 22:00, 2nd April 2025
 
I don't think I've NOT queued to get through the scanner - and if it looks to them as if you are in a hurry, you become a prime suspect for a full body search....not worth leaving it late, frankly.

I’ve flown 6 times since November, when I was deemed fit to fly after my illness of the last couple of years. My longest queue for security at Bristol has been 6 minutes. Last Tuesday it took longer to walk round all the barriers than get through the security check!

You've been lucky.  My experience in recent years is that the security check can be fast and can be very slow.  So I have to allow a long time for it because I don't want to miss my flight.  It's just one of the airport processes I have to undergo and over which I don't have control.  All of this adds to my jaundiced view of flying nowadays.

Re: Changes to the Highway Code
In "Active travel: Cyclists and walkers, including how the railways deal with them" [360112/25290/50]
Posted by eightonedee at 21:57, 2nd April 2025
 
When I first visited the Republic of Ireland in 1974, I was told that driving tests had only "recently" been introduced, and before that all you needed was 10 shillings and a trip to the post office to get your licence. I've since looked it up - it was 1964 when tests were introduced. However, for years there was a chronic shortage of test centres, and in 1979 the government introduced a moratorium - if you had held two provisional licences, you got a full licence, no need for any further test!

Re: On this day. South Australia's triple decker train experiment.
In "Railway History and related topics" [360111/30090/55]
Posted by grahame at 21:56, 2nd April 2025
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I suspect it's hit an image hosting limit.  Looks a bit like this:


Re: Extreme Day Trips
In "Buses and other ways to travel" [360110/30054/5]
Posted by LiskeardRich at 21:18, 2nd April 2025
 
I don't think I've NOT queued to get through the scanner - and if it looks to them as if you are in a hurry, you become a prime suspect for a full body search....not worth leaving it late, frankly.

I’ve flown 6 times since November, when I was deemed fit to fly after my illness of the last couple of years. My longest queue for security at Bristol has been 6 minutes. Last Tuesday it took longer to walk round all the barriers than get through the security check!

Re: On this day. South Australia's triple decker train experiment.
In "Railway History and related topics" [360109/30090/55]
Posted by ChrisB at 21:14, 2nd April 2025
 
I can still see all images
still - so I seem to be the lucky one! 

Re: Changes to the Highway Code
In "Active travel: Cyclists and walkers, including how the railways deal with them" [360108/25290/50]
Posted by paul7575 at 21:11, 2nd April 2025
 
It’s quite a while since I remember seeing this, but I’m sure in my younger days the DVLA used to include leaflets in almost every tax reminder, that attempted to keep you updated on changes to the Highway Code etc.

A simple idea, but presumably abandoned on some sort of cost grounds? 

Re: On this day. South Australia's triple decker train experiment.
In "Railway History and related topics" [360107/30090/55]
Posted by GBM at 20:41, 2nd April 2025
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I am not now seeing the images.  Instead there is a banner offering an upgrade to Premium.

No picture, just the offer to upgrade to Premium (as others have said)

Re: Changes to the Highway Code
In "Active travel: Cyclists and walkers, including how the railways deal with them" [360106/25290/50]
Posted by broadgage at 20:15, 2nd April 2025
 
No licence was needed to drive a "coach and four" on the public road, so why should a new fangled horseless carriage be different ?

A horseless carriage should be simpler, no multiple reigns to become tangled, no concerns regarding other road users spooking the horses, no risk of a horse loosing a shoe.

Re: Changes to the Highway Code
In "Active travel: Cyclists and walkers, including how the railways deal with them" [360105/25290/50]
Posted by PrestburyRoad at 19:52, 2nd April 2025
 
My late grandmother drove for years and had never passed a driving test ! She started driving a car before passing a test was required.
A driving licence was required, but this was simply purchased from a post office, no test required.

Ditto for my late father.  I remember his little red booklet that was the licence getting thicker and thicker as each year a new green slip was pasted in for each annual renewal.

Re: Changes to the Highway Code
In "Active travel: Cyclists and walkers, including how the railways deal with them" [360104/25290/50]
Posted by broadgage at 19:46, 2nd April 2025
 
My late grandmother drove for years and had never passed a driving test ! She started driving a car before passing a test was required.
A driving licence was required, but this was simply purchased from a post office, no test required.


Re: Nottingham to Bristol TM open access service proposed
In "Across the West" [360103/30098/26]
Posted by ellendune at 19:32, 2nd April 2025
 
I doubt there's room for both. Hence GWR trying to get in first with BRI-MKC, I guess.

I doubt there is room on EWR for open access once it gets past Bletchley, if you look at all the planning that has gone into minimising the necessary works, there is only going to be room for the planned services.  That is before capacity on GWR is considered.   

Re: On this day. South Australia's triple decker train experiment.
In "Railway History and related topics" [360102/30090/55]
Posted by Clan Line at 19:29, 2nd April 2025
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I am not now seeing the images.  Instead there is a banner offering an upgrade to Premium.

Likewise ...........

Re: On this day. South Australia's triple decker train experiment.
In "Railway History and related topics" [360101/30090/55]
Posted by ChrisB at 18:38, 2nd April 2025
 
I can still see all images

Re: On this day. South Australia's triple decker train experiment.
In "Railway History and related topics" [360100/30090/55]
Posted by eXPassenger at 18:26, 2nd April 2025
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I am not now seeing the images.  Instead there is a banner offering an upgrade to Premium.
I saw and liked the Adelaide picture yesterday.

Re: Happy 185th birthday, Reading Station!
In "London to Reading" [360099/30097/7]
Posted by eXPassenger at 18:09, 2nd April 2025
 
Found it

Re: Nottingham to Bristol TM open access service proposed
In "Across the West" [360098/30098/26]
Posted by Mark A at 17:59, 2nd April 2025
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Good evening all.

Just seen this on Rail magazines website.

https://www.railmagazine.com/news/2025/03/25/two-new-open-access-cross-country-routes-set-to-be-submitted-to-rail-regulator


8 Nottingham to Bristol TM services daily with 6 on sundays via east-west rail to Oxford then GWML to Bristol TM.  They also proposed a Liverpool to Cardiff airport service.  Both routes to.use class 221/222's

The only obstacle to that being a runaway success between Oxford / Leicester / Nottingham is that need to run via Bedford. Since it'll offer simple travel between its destinations it'd be good if it happened. Recalling Oxford - Nottingham proposals via Coventry though...

Mark

Re: Nottingham to Bristol TM open access service proposed
In "Across the West" [360097/30098/26]
Posted by ChrisB at 17:08, 2nd April 2025
 
Rail consultancy firm SLC is planning two new services: Nottingham-Bristol via Oxford and Liverpool-Cardiff via Hereford.

SLC is also behind the Wrexham, Shropshire & Midlands Railway (WSMR) plan linking Wrexham and London Euston, one of several applications currently awaiting Office of Rail and Road approval.

The first new application, under the Midland Central and Western Railway (MCWR) banner, is for a seven-year operation for eight Nottingham-Bristol services in each direction Monday-Saturday, with six on Sunday.

Trains would call at East Midlands Parkway, Loughborough, Leicester, Kettering, Market Harborough and Bedford on the Midland Main Line. The proposed route would then use the Marston Vale line, stopping at Stewartby, and then the new East West Rail route from Bletchley High Level station to reach Bicester Village, Oxford Parkway and Oxford. From there, the service would call at Swindon, Chippenham and Bath Spa, before terminating at Bristol Temple Meads.


Re: Nottingham to Bristol TM open access service proposed
In "Across the West" [360096/30098/26]
Posted by ChrisB at 16:58, 2nd April 2025
 
Oh god - yes, it is in my list to post here too.

Now, would you rather an IET from BRI to MKC or a vomiter from BRI to NOT?

I doubt there's room for both. Hence GWR trying to get in first with BRI-MKC, I guess.

Nottingham to Bristol TM open access service proposed
In "Across the West" [360095/30098/26]
Posted by anthony215 at 16:55, 2nd April 2025
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Good evening all.

Just seen this on Rail magazines website.

https://www.railmagazine.com/news/2025/03/25/two-new-open-access-cross-country-routes-set-to-be-submitted-to-rail-regulator


8 Nottingham to Bristol TM services daily with 6 on sundays via east-west rail to Oxford then GWML to Bristol TM.  They also proposed a Liverpool to Cardiff airport service.  Both routes to.use class 221/222's

Happy 185th birthday, Reading Station!
In "London to Reading" [360094/30097/7]
Posted by eightonedee at 16:29, 2nd April 2025
 
Picked up on the Berkshire local news section of the BBC News website-

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c1wdje7ve9wo

I'll leave you all to pick up one incorrect caption....

 
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