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Re: MetroWest services
In "Bristol (WECA, now WEMCA) Commuters" [371163/25753/21]
Posted by Red Squirrel at 18:15, 17th January 2026
 
Without more details it is difficult to judge this.

We know YTL want trains running 'across the diamond' (e.g. directly from Brabazon to Bristol Parkway), and there are clear benefits to this in terms of getting people to and from the planned arena and new town. It also ticks boxes regarding the Brabazon - Parkway - Science Park 'arc'. And it could help link up potential journeys from North Bristol towards Gloucester and Swindon.

Questions that strike me are:

  • Is there capacity at Parkway?
  • How frequently do these trains need to run to make it a useful service?
  • Will this be achieved by sacrificing some Severn Beach journeys?

If the Bristol Port Company still objects to more trains using the level crossing at Avonmouth - which, as I understand it, was one of the main objections to the loop - then it's hard to see where the capacity comes from.

There has been talk of putting in a new north-to-east chord at Holesmouth Jct which could allow Severn Beach trains to get to Parkway via Henbury. This would allow for something similar to what's being mooted here without the need for more trains over the Avonmouth crossings - but that doesn't seem to be mentioned here.

Re: Thousands of Network Rail redundancies under Labour's GBR plans
In "Looking forward - the next 2, 5, 10 and 20 years" [371162/31455/40]
Posted by grahame at 18:12, 17th January 2026
 
Might be rationalisation of back office?


Or could it be things like this?

from New Civil Engineer
31 of 50 previously promised Access for All schemes to progress while others mothballed

Railway Children locomotive to be restored in Keighley
In "Heritage railways, Railtours, buses, canals, steamships and other public transport based attractions" [371161/31462/47]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 17:59, 17th January 2026
 
From the BBC:

Anonymous donor's £200,000 to restore famous loco

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The locomotive during filming of The Railway Children film which took place in various locations, including Haworth

An anonymous donor has given £200,000 towards the restoration of a famous locomotive that appeared in The Railway Children.

The Keighley & Worth Valley Railway (KWVR) will rebuild steam engine No 5775 after receiving the financial gift.

It is best known for its appearance in the classic 1970 film, which starred Jenny Agutter, Bernard Cribbins and Lionel Jeffries. The locomotive was built in 1929 at the Great Western Railway's Swindon Works but has been out of service for around 25 years.

Fran Hartley, KWVR's co-leader of the restoration project, said the donation had transformed the timetable for the work. She said: "We are incredibly grateful for this generosity. It has allowed us to begin restoring a locomotive that means so much to the railway and to the public. Our volunteers are now making steady progress and bringing this remarkable engine back to life."

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Fran Hartley is co-leader of the KWVR restoration project

No 5775, a six-wheeled pannier tank engine, operated across south Wales on Great Western Railway routes before being withdrawn by British Railways in 1963.

It was sold to London Transport where it became L89 and worked on engineering and maintenance trains across the capital. In 1970 the engine was saved for preservation and moved to the KWVR.

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The No 5775 steam engine has not steamed since 1999 and is now in parts

It was repainted in the fictional livery of the Great Northern and Southern Railway for its film role. The locomotive was withdrawn from service in 1999 in need of a major overhaul and spent many years in storage before returning to the charity's Haworth base for assessment.

Earlier this week the first tranche of a £5m pot of government money to upgrade the KWVR was released by Bradford Council, which administers the funding. The original funding was announced as part of a £19.8m Levelling Up deal for Keighley in 2023.

The charity's chairman, Matt Stroh, said: "We've worked closely with the team at Bradford Council and this is a great way to start the new year. We are delighted to be moving forward with these transformative plans. It will serve as the foundation for securing further investment, driving tourism, creating local jobs, and enhancing community pride."

The £50,000 released will pay for a feasibility study, including the appointment of a project manager, covering infrastructure upgrades, signalling improvements, track restoration, and facility enhancements.


Re: Derailment at Goodrington
In "Shorter journeys in Devon - Central, North and South" [371160/31459/24]
Posted by a-driver at 17:27, 17th January 2026
 

It was posted elsewhere last night by somebody inside GWR that Max 4 car trains can visit Paignton due to signalling constraints following the derailment.
Cross country only use 4 car to Paignton, that is why GWR Iet are the only ones that don’t use the north crossover. They’re the only booked trains longer than 4 car.

You can shunt a 5-car IET over via the North crossover, and it is permitted to do so.  You could even shunt a 9-car but it is apparently very tight.   

Re: Derailment at Goodrington
In "Shorter journeys in Devon - Central, North and South" [371159/31459/24]
Posted by REVUpminster at 16:35, 17th January 2026
Already liked by Mark A
 
Thanks to this thread I discover I'm hazy about where the national rail system ends in that part of the world and where the heritage rail begins.

Also, not entirely convinced that the national rail system should reconcile to having Paignton as the terminus of that line - there should at the least be an appropriate scale park and ride at Churston. Oh, & shared use for the Brixham branch trackbed as far as the edge of Brixham deserves priority funds at a national level.

Mark

PS Ah, something stirs: https://brixhamrailwaytrail.org.uk/

Churston very unlikely to have a park and ride and it is all single line except for the passing loop at Churston station. I don't think Network rail would want the upkeep of the  two viaducts at Broadsands. The steam railway have modern signalling and is well kept because it employs a lot of staff and uses very few volunteers.

Having said all that Goodrington has a huge car park, closed during the winter and a disused platform face (fenced). A park and ride could greatly increase traffic in the area and the roads not up to it.
The steam railway also own all the tracks south of the south crossover including Happy Valley sidings alongside Goodrington station.

The number 12 bus route to Brixham is well used as a feeder to Paignton Station as does the 22 and 23 to/from South Devon College. The 120 from Kingswear only takes 25 minutes to Paignton.

Re: Derailment at Goodrington
In "Shorter journeys in Devon - Central, North and South" [371158/31459/24]
Posted by REVUpminster at 16:19, 17th January 2026
 
If it's south of Sands Road level crossing then it should not affect the length of train to four cars. Except for GWR IET's most trains including Cross Country use  a shunt move via the north crossover to get from platform 1 to 2.

If is a problem for 9 car trains they would probably be diverted to Plymouth to reverse or kept at Newton Abbot for a an hour and half. Been done before.

It was posted elsewhere last night by somebody inside GWR that Max 4 car trains can visit Paignton due to signalling constraints following the derailment.
Cross country only use 4 car to Paignton, that is why GWR Iet are the only ones that don’t use the north crossover. They’re the only booked trains longer than 4 car.

Cross Country mainly use 221 super voyagers at Paignton including the last train to Bristol that reverse via the north crossover.

Re: Class 175s to Great Western Railway (GWR)
In "Across the West" [371157/28982/26]
Posted by REVUpminster at 15:59, 17th January 2026
 
175007 out in public use today on 2C49 12.42 Plymouth - Penzance and 2P24 15.15 Penzance - Plymouth
And it's an un-refurbished unit. On another site, water from the air condition unit coming down the windows inside.

Re: Derailment at Goodrington
In "Shorter journeys in Devon - Central, North and South" [371156/31459/24]
Posted by stuving at 15:35, 17th January 2026
 
Thanks to this thread I discover I'm hazy about where the national rail system ends in that part of the world and where the heritage rail begins.

Well .... it's complicated. While the the train derailed on top of the crossover that links the two railways (but not because of the points), the whole crossover is Network Rail's. They also own/are responsible for a short stretch of the DSR's route (the Down Torbay) including the crossover and the level crossing (so they have the whole of both). Consequently DSR have running powers over that six chains or so!

Re: Derailment at Goodrington
In "Shorter journeys in Devon - Central, North and South" [371155/31459/24]
Posted by LiskeardRich at 14:49, 17th January 2026
 
If it's south of Sands Road level crossing then it should not affect the length of train to four cars. Except for GWR IET's most trains including Cross Country use  a shunt move via the north crossover to get from platform 1 to 2.

If is a problem for 9 car trains they would probably be diverted to Plymouth to reverse or kept at Newton Abbot for a an hour and half. Been done before.

It was posted elsewhere last night by somebody inside GWR that Max 4 car trains can visit Paignton due to signalling constraints following the derailment.
Cross country only use 4 car to Paignton, that is why GWR Iet are the only ones that don’t use the north crossover. They’re the only booked trains longer than 4 car.

GWR online survey 17/01/26
In "Across the West" [371154/31461/26]
Posted by Mark A at 14:20, 17th January 2026
 
Bought a rail ticket online the other week which might have prompted this online survey from GWR.

https://tinyurl.com/3pyps8f4

Unfortunately the page resolves to a simple 'Thank you for your time' which is quite funny considering that my last train trip involved my returning 25 hours or so late.

Mark

We know your journey with GWR is more than just getting from A to B — it’s about how it feels along the way.

Whether it’s the ease of booking, the comfort of your seat, the confidence in your journey, or even what happens after you step off the train — we want to hear about it. We’re running a short survey (just a couple of minutes!) to better understand what really matters to you when you travel with us. Your feedback will guide us to focus on areas where we can improve how we support you, every step of the way.

Re: Derailment at Goodrington
In "Shorter journeys in Devon - Central, North and South" [371153/31459/24]
Posted by Mark A at 14:13, 17th January 2026
 
Thanks to this thread I discover I'm hazy about where the national rail system ends in that part of the world and where the heritage rail begins.

Also, not entirely convinced that the national rail system should reconcile to having Paignton as the terminus of that line - there should at the least be an appropriate scale park and ride at Churston. Oh, & shared use for the Brixham branch trackbed as far as the edge of Brixham deserves priority funds at a national level.

Mark

PS Ah, something stirs: https://brixhamrailwaytrail.org.uk/

Re: Class 175s to Great Western Railway (GWR)
In "Across the West" [371152/28982/26]
Posted by plymothian at 13:26, 17th January 2026
 
175007 out in public use today on 2C49 12.42 Plymouth - Penzance and 2P24 15.15 Penzance - Plymouth

Re: Derailment at Goodrington
In "Shorter journeys in Devon - Central, North and South" [371151/31459/24]
Posted by REVUpminster at 12:45, 17th January 2026
Already liked by GBM
 
On Underground signalling we had a thing called route locking (same as approach locking) which may have happened here preventing platform 2 being used. It prevented a signal operator changing points under a train that had been given the green signal. Track locking also came into play when the train was passing over the points stopping the signal operator moving the points.

So I expect your right in that the platform was somehow kept in play for short trains.

Re: Thames Valley infrastructure problems causing disruption elsewhere - 2026
In "Across the West" [371150/31163/26]
Posted by ChrisB at 11:04, 17th January 2026
 
(TfL are blaming an OLHE problem, could quite conceivably be both I guess given the state of the infrastructure)

Or the same, quite likely. Have you ever seen "safety inspection of the OHLE"....or similar. I suspect they include OHLE in 'track' for this purpose.

Re: Thames Valley infrastructure problems causing disruption elsewhere - 2026
In "Across the West" [371149/31163/26]
Posted by TaplowGreen at 09:01, 17th January 2026
 
2026 really off to a great start............ Image not available to guests

Cancellations to services between Reading and London Paddington

Due to a safety inspection of the track between Reading and London Paddington fewer trains are able to run on some lines.

(TfL are blaming an OLHE problem, could quite conceivably be both I guess given the state of the infrastructure)

Train services running to and from these stations may be cancelled or delayed. Disruption is expected until 11:30 17/01.

Re: Derailment at Goodrington
In "Shorter journeys in Devon - Central, North and South" [371148/31459/24]
Posted by a-driver at 08:07, 17th January 2026
Already liked by GBM
 
If it's south of Sands Road level crossing then it should not affect the length of train to four cars. Except for GWR IET's most trains including Cross Country use  a shunt move via the north crossover to get from platform 1 to 2.

If is a problem for 9 car trains they would probably be diverted to Plymouth to reverse or kept at Newton Abbot for a an hour and half. Been done before.

It is South of the Level Crossing but, at a guess, the train may have been initially (or still) under protection arrangements which falls within the platform area limiting train lengths.

Again, that restriction might have only been in place until Network Rail disconnected the track circuits.

Re: Derailment at Goodrington
In "Shorter journeys in Devon - Central, North and South" [371147/31459/24]
Posted by REVUpminster at 07:25, 17th January 2026
 
If it's south of Sands Road level crossing then it should not affect the length of train to four cars. Except for GWR IET's most trains including Cross Country use  a shunt move via the north crossover to get from platform 1 to 2.

If is a problem for 9 car trains they would probably be diverted to Plymouth to reverse or kept at Newton Abbot for a an hour and half. Been done before.

Re: Derailment at Goodrington
In "Shorter journeys in Devon - Central, North and South" [371146/31459/24]
Posted by a-driver at 23:30, 16th January 2026
Already liked by TaplowGreen, Timmer, GBM
 
So long will it take to sort that out?

The re-railing team should have been on site at 20:00, won't take long to get it back on the rails.

The train won't be out of service for very long either, a wheel set change at most. 

The infrastructure, that's hard to say, A repair could take a day or two but getting resources and materials might mean a few weeks.  Upto 4-cars can still run into Paignton so not significant disruption.

Re: MetroWest services begin
In "Bristol (WECA, now WEMCA) Commuters" [371145/25753/21]
Posted by johnneyw at 22:28, 16th January 2026
 
The motion tabled by Councillor Mark Weston to debate the Henbury Loop at a Bristol City Council meeting apparently fell short of time but instead there's been some proposal to run the Severn Beach Line to Bristol Parkway which falls short of a loop.I t's reported in the below link to Bristol Live:

https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/news/bristol-news/transport-planners-looking-extending-severn-10758098

Frankly the scheme seems somewhat half baked to me, requiring seemingly a reversal at Parkway and not realising the gains that a loop would achieve.  A  compromise that ultimately helps hardly anyone?

Re: Derailment at Goodrington
In "Shorter journeys in Devon - Central, North and South" [371144/31459/24]
Posted by TaplowGreen at 22:19, 16th January 2026
 
So long will it take to sort that out?

Re: Derailment at Goodrington
In "Shorter journeys in Devon - Central, North and South" [371143/31459/24]
Posted by Timmer at 21:39, 16th January 2026
 
Have seen some pics on social media and it doesn’t look like there’s much damage to the train. The track underneath (wooden sleepers) doesn’t look too clever though when it comes time to re-rail the train.

The other problem created is that it’s a 9 carriage IET that’s going to be out of service for a while at a time when GWR can’t really afford another set out of service; particularly a 9 car set.

Re: Storm Goretti 'weather bomb' to hit South West England
In "Shorter journeys in Plymouth and Cornwall" [371142/31405/25]
Posted by RailCornwall at 20:14, 16th January 2026
 
Have Network Rail managed despite the events of last weekend to complete all the work planned on the St Ives branch? If so they must have been heroic.

Re: Class 175s to Great Western Railway (GWR)
In "Across the West" [371141/28982/26]
Posted by John D at 17:27, 16th January 2026
 
175001 (paired with 009), the only unit that can run in public traffic, was terminated on its training run at Liskeard as the windscreen spontaneously cracked in 2 places.
Nothing from Wolverton in the past two hours. Maybe they have gone to get some clear cello tape. Perhaps the tide is in at Dawlish when the train is due?
Apparently cancelled due to signal failure (per real time trains)

Derailment at Goodrington
In "Shorter journeys in Devon - Central, North and South" [371140/31459/24]
Posted by plymothian at 16:50, 16th January 2026
 
5A87 has derailed on approach to Paignton South level crossing as it left Goodrington yard

Re: Llangollen Canal - Whitchurch, Shropshire canal breach: 22 Dec 2025
In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [371139/31316/51]
Posted by Phil at 16:32, 16th January 2026
Already liked by Chris from Nailsea, eXPassenger, Timmer, Mark A, eightonedee, GBM, ChrisB, rogerw, Clan Line, paul7575
 
Just to say, that film (and the link to it) was by a gentleman named Steve Court who has, throughout this whole awful incident, reported factually, sensibly, undramatically and with extreme sympathy to everyone concerned. He's a credit to the canal "family", just as several people hereabouts are a credit to the wider railway scene, and deserves to be applauded for his efforts. I happen to know him personally, and he gives up a great deal of his valuable time (he runs his own very successful plumbing business here in West Wiltshire - my home restoration a decade or so ago happened to be his very first job when he resigned from British Gas and went solo!) supporting good causes such as the Wilts & Berks Canal Trust. He can also be seen on a couple of DIY SOS programmes that air on catch-up TV from time to time, selflessly installing plumbing in the homes of deserving members of the public. A top bloke in other words.

Re: Class 175s to Great Western Railway (GWR)
In "Across the West" [371138/28982/26]
Posted by REVUpminster at 13:40, 16th January 2026
 
175001 (paired with 009), the only unit that can run in public traffic, was terminated on its training run at Liskeard as the windscreen spontaneously cracked in 2 places.
Nothing from Wolverton in the past two hours. Maybe they have gone to get some clear cello tape. Perhaps the tide is in at Dawlish when the train is due?

Re: Llangollen Canal - Whitchurch, Shropshire canal breach: 22 Dec 2025
In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [371137/31316/51]
Posted by Mark A at 12:44, 16th January 2026
 
Thanks for that link. Good to see this handled somewhat sensitively here and also reflects well on the Canal and River Trust.

Mark

Re: Llangollen Canal - Whitchurch, Shropshire canal breach: 22 Dec 2025
In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [371136/31316/51]
Posted by paul7575 at 11:25, 16th January 2026
Already liked by Mark A
 
The two boats that were down in the breach had been pulled out onto the level canal bed by yesterday evening, today should see them refloated by building a portable dam behind them.  There are loads of YouTube videos of yesterday’s work, but here’s one which covers both and has the best coverage of the more difficult second boat, (the one with the bow partially buried), which was pulled stern first:

https://youtu.be/9ErDrPh4hD8?si=hewNSddJSQiiu4qP

Re: Coffeeshop Map 4-12-25
In "The Lighter Side" [371135/31199/30]
Posted by Mark A at 11:18, 16th January 2026
 
Last night I dreamed that I caught a TfW class 175 train from Hereford, the train calling at Bath on its way to Southampton - and on the train's exterior, as branding, that glyph, used by TfW for their interregional services through Wiltshire.

Today, the Cornwall glyph's shrunk, but it's lent its strength to a second more ghostly one centred on Reading and Basingstoke.

Mark

Re: Class 175s to Great Western Railway (GWR)
In "Across the West" [371134/28982/26]
Posted by plymothian at 10:03, 16th January 2026
 
175001 (paired with 009), the only unit that can run in public traffic, was terminated on its training run at Liskeard as the windscreen spontaneously cracked in 2 places.

 
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