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MOVED: Road markings and signs - various errors causing confusion, mirth and some concerns - merged posts
In "The Lighter Side" [376971/32227/30]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 16:11, 12th July 2026

Re: Road markings and signs - various errors causing confusion, mirth and some concerns - merged pos
In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [376970/14110/51]
Posted by Marlburian at 16:08, 12th July 2026
 
Early this morning I drove 33 miles to Savernake Forest, walked, then returned to Reading via Marlborough - about 80 miles of driving.  I was surprised at the amount of roadkill- at least 15 corpses, mostly (apparently) of foxes, hares and rabbits, far more than I've seen before.

The Forest is privately owned but nearly all its paths and tracks are "permissive" - but closed on New Year's Day to forestall any claim that they become public because of continuity of use. It's managed by the Forestry Commission who've done a good job of putting gravel on some of the most popular ones, though I met one local who'd known the Forest "for 75 years" who bemoaned the main route -  the Grand Avenue - having been widened, presumably to allow cars to pass each other.

BTW the locality is a transport enthusiast's dream, with some of the Forest roads showing remnants of tarred surfaces, presumably relating to when the Forest stored ammunition in WWII, the Kennet & Avon Canal (including the Bruce Tunnel and Crofton Beam Engine), the sites of Savernake's two railway stations and of where the Midland & South Western Junction Railway crossed the GWR and connected with it.

Toll bridges - charges and fines
In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [376969/32224/51]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 15:39, 12th July 2026
 
From the BBC:

Toll bridge fine issued to driver 270 miles away


The Warburton Toll Bridge crosses the Manchester Ship Canal

A driver said he was left "perturbed" after receiving a fine for crossing a toll bridge more than 270 miles from his home despite insisting he had never been near it.

Graham Parsons, from Plymouth, Devon, received an unpaid toll charge for using the Warburton Toll Bridge, which links Cheshire and Greater Manchester.

His case is one of a number raised by motorists who have complained about the bridge's payment and enforcement system.

Peel Ports said there had been "some genuine customer experience issues", but the evidence did "not indicate a systemic failure of the system".

The bridge previously cost 12p a crossing, but the charge was increased to £1 following refurbishment works in recent years.  Manned toll booths were removed and replaced with an automatic number plate recognition (ANPR) camera system.

Mr Parsons told BBC Politics North West he received an unpaid toll charge in early June for a crossing in March.  "I put my Sherlock Holmes hat on because I didn't realise that I'd ever been near the bridge," he said.  "And in fact, I had never been near the bridge because it's 271 miles from where I live. So I was quite perturbed and annoyed."

He appealed and discovered the camera had misread his registration plate, which differed by one character from the vehicle photographed.  Two weeks later, he received a second letter relating to another crossing in April.

Mr Parsons then submitted a subject access request to parking operator Excel Parking, after which the charges were cancelled.

He said he was "lucky" to know what steps to take and highlighted that a Facebook group where others had been through similar experiences with the bridge had helped him.

"I thought 'this is bad, I need to get it resolved' but I have a lot more sympathy for local people that have to cross that bridge on multiple occasions," he said.

He also raised concerns about his personal information being released by the DVLA.

The DVLA said it was "sorry for any distress caused".

"In this case, the company that requested the information has confirmed the notices were issued in error and has cancelled the charges," a spokesperson said.

Russell Barton, from Lowton, often makes one-way journeys across the bridge, visiting his elderly parents on his way home from work.  He received an unpaid toll charge in June for a crossing in March despite having paid the charge.

"Luckily I don't often delete emails, and sure enough there's the receipt that I paid the £1 crossing on the day they say I didn't," he said.  He said the system was "not fit for purpose".

"I appreciate they spent a lot of money on the bridge and that needs to be paid for somehow," he said.  But he said the way the charges increase was "not fair" and "not proportionate".

"I think a lot of people will just pay it to get it out of their hair, or they haven't kept the receipt.  I won't do that, I'll go to court and I'll win."  He added that if the company "can't sort their own house out, then it must be regulated".

Connor Rand, Labour MP for Altrincham and Sale West, said he had been "inundated" with messages about the bridge, which is partially in his constituency.  "It's clear whatever is happening isn't working - it's broken at the moment," he said.

He said he wanted Peel Ports to "come to the table, take the issue seriously and work to solve them in a way that works for residents.  What I'll be saying to the transport minister and the department is that if they don't take those issues seriously then we might need to look at what other action we can take - including parliamentary action - to solve the issues," he said.

Meanwhile, Warrington North's Labour MP Charlotte Nichols - whose constituency also partially includes the bridge - said she had met Peel Ports after receiving complaints from residents and had been told the company would investigate.

In a statement, Peel Ports said it recognised the "variety of concerns" users have about the operation of the toll enforcement system.

It said: "We take all feedback seriously and are reviewing the examples that have been provided, in conjunction with Excel Parking who are responsible for the number plate recognition system and the toll charges.  We and Excel will continue to investigate any specific examples provided and it will be for Excel to implement changes from any lessons learned. Our focus remains on delivering a fair, proportionate and transparent service for all users."

It said that while there had been "some genuine customer experience issues", its assessment found no evidence of a "systemic failure" of the scheme.  And it said where an issue had been found due to an error it had "acted appropriately, including issuing payments retrospectively where justified and upholding appeals where the evidence supports this".

Excel Parking has been approached for comment.


All of this, for a toll of just £1 ??

Re: Barbeques, on the railway and elsewhere - ongoing discussion
In "The Lighter Side" [376968/32223/30]
Posted by chuffed at 15:22, 12th July 2026
Already liked by Chris from Nailsea
 
I saw what you did there CfN....before anyone throws briquettes at you.

Re: Shortage of train crews on Great Western Railway - ongoing discussion
In "Across the West" [376967/18719/26]
Posted by TaplowGreen at 14:36, 12th July 2026
 
There are some however for later in the day, some of which were announced last night.

True, but given the current and ongoing issues caused by "severe" weather, signal failures,"more trains than usual needing repairs at the same time" aka too hot to be driven, falling trees etc etc we should probably be grateful for every small mercy!

Re: Swindon <-> Westbury service updates and amendments, ongoing discussion - 2026
In "TransWilts line - Swindon, Chippenham, Melksham, Trowbridge, Westbury, Salisbury" [376966/31359/18]
Posted by TaplowGreen at 12:47, 12th July 2026
 
11:32 Swindon to Weymouth due 13:45

11:32 Swindon to Weymouth due 13:45 will be delayed at Westbury and is expected to be 15 minutes late.

This is due to a shortage of train crew.
Will be formed of 3 coaches. Toilet facilities are reduced.

Additional Facilities Information
The accessible toilet is not available for use.

Re: Call for volunteers - 18th July 2026 - Walkers for Melksham Carnival
In "Diary - what's happening when?" [376965/32222/34]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 11:24, 12th July 2026
 

This is a call and briefing for walkers to support the Melksham Transport User Group.


I will be there - but please don't let that put you off also volunteering to help.

CfN. 

Re: Heritage railways crossing public highways - issues raised
In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [376964/32192/51]
Posted by Oxonhutch at 11:18, 12th July 2026
Already liked by Mark A
 
Driving past a short while ago, it appears that a vehicle has demolished one of the central reservation crossing road warning light arrays. The parallel stop signal is still in place at the side of the road. That appears to be the only damage on the crossing - even the keep-left beacon on the short central reservation is still in place.

I am surprised that the crossing cannot be used with additional supervision and traffic control on the ground. There must be railway procedures in place to pass a train over a defective level crossing, especially in the long daylight of summer.

Re: Shortage of train crews on Great Western Railway - ongoing discussion
In "Across the West" [376963/18719/26]
Posted by bobm at 10:11, 12th July 2026
 
There are some however for later in the day, some of which were announced last night.

Re: Shortage of train crews on Great Western Railway - ongoing discussion
In "Across the West" [376962/18719/26]
Posted by IndustryInsider at 09:35, 12th July 2026
Already liked by Mark A
 
The morning after the England game.  Just one cancellation currently listed due to crew shortages this morning.

Call for volunteers - 18th July 2026 - Walkers for Melksham Carnival
In "Diary - what's happening when?" [376961/32222/34]
Posted by grahame at 09:24, 12th July 2026
Already liked by Mark A, Chris from Nailsea
 
Next Saturday (18th July 2026) - Melksham Carnival.  This is a call and briefing for walkers to support the Melksham Transport User Group.

We have a thousand bus and train timetables to hand out and asking if YOU are available to help us.  We have a Faresaver bus promised to follow just behind us - raise awareness and helping us remind people of all the places they can go by bus and train this summer and Autumn.

"Just bring yourself" is the instruction - but please let me know ahead of time if you're coming so that I can brief you as part of our group, and have a group tabard available for you - transport group pink, or environment group green.

We rendezvous at the Central Car Park by 17:30 at the very latest for an 18:00 start.  There are no extra car parking spaces there if you're coming by car - just space for the procession including the bus.  But our team is very welcome to park at our place (48, Spa Road) - arrive there by 17:00 please - for us to walk in to the start.  And we (Lisa and I) will have a supply of cold and hot drinks afterwards.

Key safety rules - organiser's and ours.

1. No alcohol during the event (and my addition, do not drink beforehand either!!)

2. No getting on or off moving vehicles (specifically, the bus will come to a halt to pass down fresh supplies of leaflets and bottled water for the walkers)

3. Your health and safety, and the health and safety of those around you, comes first and second. Getting the message out only comes third.

4. The objective is to promote public transport to, from and within Melksham and the timetable booklet is the ONLY leaflet to be promoted / offered to people. And it should NOT be forced into their hands - only if they want it when offered. I walk the route after the event picking up any discards - historically they will be few even though we start with a darned good supply

5. If people ask questions as we walk, we have very limited time to answer. "Sorry – I don't know" is perfectly valid. I will supply each walker with some black and white sheets with contact details / QR codes so they can be encouraged to follow up for us to get them answers.  These sheets not to be promoted - they are a second level fallback; most of the extra data is in the 36 page booklet anyway.  If in doubt - please call me over; I am there to support walkers.

The weather forecast - thank goodness - is for it to be dry, and somewhat cooler than it has been of late. Excellent.

If you are retuning home from Melksham by train or bus, the parade will conclude in good time to catch the final services to Chippenham and Swindon, to Trowbridge and Westbury, and to Bath and to Devizes. 

Later that evening, the third place playoff for the World Cup takes place, and the following evening it's the final. England are going to be in one of those two matches - there will be some excitement about the forthcoming match but it should not impose on the carnival.

Big, big THANK YOU to Faresaver for the bus, leaflet help and partnership working.



Edit note: Minor typo corrected, purely for clarity. CfN.

Re: Road markings and signs - various errors causing confusion, mirth and some concerns - merged pos
In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [376960/14110/51]
Posted by AMLAG at 09:02, 12th July 2026
 
No doubt not directly employed ‘Council’ roadmen but a CONtracted outfit.

At least they are repainting the white lines.
In much of Devon white lines at road junctions are worn out.
If you see a dead animal on the road consider ‘direct action’ by removing it to the hedge, as I did yesterday when I spotted a recently killed fox on a minor road.

Re: Lower Thames Crossing, between Tilbury in Essex and Gravesend in Kent
In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [376959/30367/51]
Posted by Mark A at 08:32, 12th July 2026
 
"UK’s public spending watchdog to investigate Lower Thames Crossing project."

Mark

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2026/jul/12/public-spending-watchdog-investigate-lower-thames-crossing-project

Re: Road markings and signs - various errors causing confusion, mirth and some concerns - merged pos
In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [376958/14110/51]
Posted by Bob_Blakey at 08:01, 12th July 2026

Re: Swindon <-> Westbury service updates and amendments, ongoing discussion - 2026
In "TransWilts line - Swindon, Chippenham, Melksham, Trowbridge, Westbury, Salisbury" [376957/31359/18]
Posted by grahame at 05:55, 12th July 2026
 
According to Real Time Trains the morning service from Swindon was operated by 166 205 and the evening return by 165 104.

I would "go" with a suggestion that 166205 became too hot to handle waiting in the Jersey or Jubilee sidings all day and was failed, with the other unit that was also waiting all day to form a Weymouth to Bristol strengthening service called in to help.   There were some interesting delays / cancellations / shunts.

The Swindon train left Weymouth 28 minutes late but was only 20 minutes late by Swindon.  Apparently the station stop at Yetminster took 6 minutes, but then the generous allowance of 15 minutes at Pen Mill was cut to 3 minutes. 

Re: Barbeques, on the railway and elsewhere - ongoing discussion
In "The Lighter Side" [376956/32223/30]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 02:09, 12th July 2026
 
I am now wondering whether I should set myself yet another target, of moving and merging some various previous posts into a definitive 'barbeque' topic - perhaps 'on the lighter side', here on the Coffee Shop forum?

CfN. 

Re: Swindon <-> Westbury service updates and amendments, ongoing discussion - 2026
In "TransWilts line - Swindon, Chippenham, Melksham, Trowbridge, Westbury, Salisbury" [376955/31359/18]
Posted by bobm at 01:08, 12th July 2026
 
According to Real Time Trains the morning service from Swindon was operated by 166 205 and the evening return by 165 104.

Re: Trains delayed across Britain due to nationwide fault on GSMR communication system
In "Across the West" [376954/29596/26]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 00:28, 12th July 2026
 
See also https://www.firstgreatwestern.info/coffeeshop/index.php?topic=5264.msg376807#msg376807 

CfN.

Re: Trains delayed across Britain due to nationwide fault on GSMR communication system
In "Across the West" [376953/29596/26]
Posted by Trowres at 00:13, 12th July 2026
 
A mobile network failure in Australia recently (around 8th July) caused multiple problems, affecting emergency calls, payment terminals and ... rail services.

All trains on Victoria’s regional rail network were suspended on Thursday morning during the peak travel period, though services have gradually returned.

Telstra’s 4G network was interfering with the back-up satellite phones used in the trains when the mobile network is unavailable, according to V/Line’s chief executive, William Tieppo.

Regional trains in New South Wales were also interrupted, but services have since resumed on the Southern Highlands and Hunter lines.

This one has been blamed on faulty operation of a time server (with suggestions that an update was responsible).

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2026/jul/08/telstra-outage-mobile-network-stark-reminder-widespread-effects-system-failures
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2026/jul/09/telstra-outage-today-cause-vline-network-outages-update

Re: Swindon <-> Westbury service updates and amendments, ongoing discussion - 2026
In "TransWilts line - Swindon, Chippenham, Melksham, Trowbridge, Westbury, Salisbury" [376952/31359/18]
Posted by Trowres at 21:55, 11th July 2026
 
19:38 Weymouth to Swindon due 22:00

19:38 Weymouth to Swindon due 22:00 is being delayed at Weymouth.
This is due to this train being late from the depot.

Ironic as it sits in the Jersey Sidings (cooking!) all day.

20:06 rather than 19:38 off Weymouth.

May have had something to do with the preceding train, the 18:45 to Bristol, being cancelled due to unspecified fault. Both trains were being shown as "Delayed"  at around 19:45. The Bristol stock may have ended up in Jersey sidings.

For a while, the final Bristol service (2104 from Weymouth) was showing as 7 coaches on TIGER. It's now back to 3.


Re: Swindon <-> Westbury service updates and amendments, ongoing discussion - 2026
In "TransWilts line - Swindon, Chippenham, Melksham, Trowbridge, Westbury, Salisbury" [376951/31359/18]
Posted by grahame at 21:07, 11th July 2026
 
19:38 Weymouth to Swindon due 22:00

19:38 Weymouth to Swindon due 22:00 is being delayed at Weymouth.
This is due to this train being late from the depot.

Ironic as it sits in the Jersey Sidings (cooking!) all day.

20:06 rather than 19:38 off Weymouth.

Re: Road markings and signs - various errors causing confusion, mirth and some concerns - merged pos
In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [376950/14110/51]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 20:32, 11th July 2026
 
From the BBC:

Repainting redundant road markings 'waste of cash'


The Coln House School closed years ago and is being converted to housing - Image © Sandra Kolasinski

The partial repainting of "keep clear" road markings outside a now-closed Cotswold school has sparked concerns that public money is being wasted.

Sandra Kolasinski said she was amused last week to discover just the word "keep" had been painted in bright yellow after repairs to the road outside the former Coln House School in Horcott Road.

Kolasinski said while it made her laugh, the work was a waste of taxpayers money and the road markings now appear for "no apparent reason".

Councillor Mark Harris, from Gloucestershire County Council, said the utility company that carried out the work has now returned to black out the markings.

"The old Coln House School in Horcott Road, Fairford, has been closed for ages and is in the process of being converted into new housing," she said.

"Even though the rest of the markings can no longer be seen and it is no longer a school site, there is now the word 'keep' written on the road for no apparent reason.  Are the people who mark the roads not allowed to question why they are doing some?  What a waste of money!"

Stephen Andrews, a former Cotswold district councillor for the area, said it made no sense to repaint the signs on the road but the utility firm may have had to do it due to a technicality.  "The problem may well lie with the traffic regulation order, (which) ensured the school's presence was known, and has not been cancelled after its closure years ago," he said.

Harris, cabinet member for highways at the council, said the work was undertaken by a utilities company that had reinstated the road markings present after completing a project on the road.

"We work closely with all utility companies to ensure they reinstate the highways surface to its original condition following any works.  In this instance, the 'School Keep Clear' markings had been allowed to fade as they are now longer relevant. We have spoken with the utility company, and they have returned to the site to black out the markings," he added.


Re: Swindon <-> Westbury service updates and amendments, ongoing discussion - 2026
In "TransWilts line - Swindon, Chippenham, Melksham, Trowbridge, Westbury, Salisbury" [376949/31359/18]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 19:29, 11th July 2026
 
Somewhat ironically, 'On This Day' reports that there used to be trams in Swindon ... 


Re: Weather updates from across the UK and implications for infrastructure - 2026
In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [376948/31355/51]
Posted by broadgage at 18:31, 11th July 2026
 
The poor reliability of food chillers and freezers is a growing problem.
Measure to improve matters could be taken such as;
Design for a space temperature inside the supermarket of 35 degrees. To allow for air conditioning failures.
Design for a space temperature in an external plant room of at least 60 degrees.
Design for an external air temperature of 45 degrees.
For external pumps and fans, consider installing a bypass to the motor overload protection, that will in an emergency permit the motor to run to destruction.

Re: Ironbridge Industrial Revolution museums - ongoing developments and discussion
In "Railway History and related topics" [376947/30928/55]
Posted by Mark A at 17:06, 11th July 2026
 
Wellington bus station's adjacent to the railway station but on a different level. The leaflet could mention that the two are next door neighbours. There are moves afoot to improve the access and make it step-free.

Mark

https://newsroom.telford.gov.uk/news/council-welcomes-step-free-access-plan-for-wellington-railway-station

Re: Swindon <-> Westbury service updates and amendments, ongoing discussion - 2026
In "TransWilts line - Swindon, Chippenham, Melksham, Trowbridge, Westbury, Salisbury" [376946/31359/18]
Posted by grahame at 17:02, 11th July 2026
 
Cancellations to services between Chippenham and Trowbridge via Melksham
Due to a shortage of train crew between Westbury and Swindon disruption is expected until 20:30 11/07.
Train services between Chippenham and Trowbridge via Melksham have been cancelled.

Customer Advice
Owing to a shortage of train crew several afternoon / evening journeys on the Westbury - Swindon - Westbury (via Melksham) route have been cancelled.

Please accept our apologies for any inconvenience this may cause to your intended journey on this route today.

Taxis will operate in place of the cancelled train services between Chippenham and Westbury in both directions, calling at Melksham and Trowbridge. This road transport is intended to connect at Chippenham out of the next Swindon to Chippenham train service (normally a service to Bristol Temple Meads) following the cancelled Swindon, Chippenham, Melksham service. From Westbury they will connect at Chippenham into train services towards Swindon, Didcot Parkway, Reading and London Paddington.

Re: Swindon <-> Westbury service updates and amendments, ongoing discussion - 2026
In "TransWilts line - Swindon, Chippenham, Melksham, Trowbridge, Westbury, Salisbury" [376945/31359/18]
Posted by grahame at 17:01, 11th July 2026
 
Buses are not too bad to the hospital on a Sunday.   The 1/1A/1B and 12 combine to give three buses an hour.

Edit to add.  For the return the 12 has the advantage it stops outside the railway station after Fleming Way - but only runs hourly at 33 mins past the hour from the hospital.

Thanks, Bob - it's an investigation machine I'll be on so I suspect I'll like something of a walk when back in Swindon rather than being too out of action to get to the station.

Re: Ironbridge Industrial Revolution museums - ongoing developments and discussion
In "Railway History and related topics" [376944/30928/55]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 15:57, 11th July 2026
Already liked by Mark A
 
From the BBC:

New summer bus service for Ironbridge tourists


The bus will take people to a number of sites around the Ironbridge Gorge - Image © Getty Images

A new summer bus service aims to help people get to popular tourist attractions in the Ironbridge Gorge.

The bus will run every Friday, Saturday, Sunday and Bank Holiday Monday until 13 September and passengers can hop on and off throughout the day for £2.

It will call at The Wrekin, Wellington town centre, Madeley High Street, Ironbridge Wharfage, Blists Hill Victorian Town, Jackfield Tile Museum and other attractions.

Telford and Wrekin said Ironbridge Gorge Park and Ride at Jiggers Bank car park would also be available throughout the summer.

The council said its "Wrekin Connect" bus was being run as a trial service and it wanted to hear people's feedback.

It said it hoped the service would allow people "to enjoy a full day out exploring the area without the need to use their car".

Ollie Vickers, the councillor responsible for transport, said the bus was a "simple and affordable way to travel".

The council has produced a full timetable and route map.


Re: Ironbridge Industrial Revolution museums - ongoing developments and discussion
In "Railway History and related topics" [376943/30928/55]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 15:36, 11th July 2026
 
An update, from the BBC:

Historical iron bridge documents to go on display


The three documents tell the story of the construction on the famous bridge in Ironbridge - Image © National Trust

A collection of records telling the story of the world's first large-scale iron bridge are due to go on display.

The National Trust, which now runs the Ironbridge Gorge museums in Shropshire, said the records had recently been recognised for their significance by Unesco.

It said the construction of the iron bridge there "marked a turning point in engineering and construction, demonstrating the potential of cast iron on an unprecedented scale".

The three documents are Abraham Darby III's original cost estimate, a ledger showing a list of his business activities and a personal share certificate which belonged to him.

Last month the documents were added to Unesco UK Memory of the World Register, which recognises "documentary heritage of outstanding national and regional importance".

They will go on display for two weeks from 15 July to mark this.

The bridge, completed in 1779, gave its name to the town of Ironbridge and the surrounding gorge, which the National Trust said was "widely regarded as the birthplace of the Industrial Revolution".

Local ironmaster Abraham Darby III was commissioned to build the bridge to a design by Thomas Farnolls Pritchard.

As well providing an important river crossing, the bridge was used to "demonstrate the capabilities of his company and the versatility of cast iron for architectural use" the National Trust said.

(BBC article continues, with further details of opening times, etc.)


Re: Swindon <-> Westbury service updates and amendments, ongoing discussion - 2026
In "TransWilts line - Swindon, Chippenham, Melksham, Trowbridge, Westbury, Salisbury" [376942/31359/18]
Posted by bobm at 14:35, 11th July 2026
Already liked by Mark A
 
Buses are not too bad to the hospital on a Sunday.   The 1/1A/1B and 12 combine to give three buses an hour.

Edit to add.  For the return the 12 has the advantage it stops outside the railway station after Fleming Way - but only runs hourly at 33 mins past the hour from the hospital.

 
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