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Perhaps "congestion" was passengers at Bath Spa and they needed an extra train from there to Bristol?
I considered that. Not impossible, although there were no obvious rail-related causes such as cancellations or short-forms at Bath in the relevant time period.
| Re: Diesel trains at Woking to soon be replaced by electrics? In "South Western services" [377725/32312/42] Posted by eightonedee at 21:53, 2nd August 2026 | ![]() |
That's a different answer to a different question.
Clearly, the training he's been given about how to answer a question when he's no idea has worked....
| Re: Network Rail press release: passengers and luggage In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [377724/32295/51] Posted by Ralph Ayres at 21:47, 2nd August 2026 | ![]() |
For equally obscure reasons, some 50 years ago a fellow pupil and I needed to take a rolled-up carpet to school. It fitted nicely along a row of 6 seats in a compartment in a dmu. One of us at each end, quickly onto the train at Denham before the guard spotted us, a couple of friends helping block the view, then out at High Wycombe carrying it low down and waving our season tickets high up to divert attention. Process reversed some days later. Mission accomplished.
| Re: [otd] 8th August (1898) - opening of the Waterloo and City line In "Transport for London" [377723/32307/46] Posted by ChrisB at 21:15, 2nd August 2026 | ![]() |
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waterloo_%26_City_line
| Re: Okehampton In "Shorter journeys in Devon - Central, North and South" [377722/18334/24] Posted by ChrisB at 20:58, 2nd August 2026 | ![]() |
I've noted on some of the videos that were recorded that the platform information signs were still indicating no services on opening day.
That's because "opening day" was Friday - and there were no public services - they started on Saturday. One or two videographers were invited on Friday.
| Re: West Wilts Rail User Group - 16th September 2026 In "Diary - what's happening when?" [377721/32313/34] Posted by ChrisB at 20:00, 2nd August 2026 | ![]() |
Indeed he is. But he's still responsible for ordering & specifying the IET....
| Re: Looking and learning - but where? In "The Lighter Side" [377720/32306/30] Posted by stuving at 19:45, 2nd August 2026 | ![]() |
Well, we now know where you were yesterday because you told us - Chemnitz!
Congestion
Hmm...
The only thing I can see that might be termed "congestion" is that trains between Paddington and South Wales are running via Chippenham today (and are also a bit off booked times due to yesterday's fire west of Newport).
Perhaps "congestion" was passengers at Bath Spa and they needed an extra train from there to Bristol?
| Re: West Wilts Rail User Group - 16th September 2026 In "Diary - what's happening when?" [377718/32313/34] Posted by grahame at 18:22, 2nd August 2026 Already liked by Chris from Nailsea | ![]() |
It should be a very interesting evening. I have met Peter a number of times - both during and after his time with the Department for Transport; he was always very professional, and since his DfT days my respect for him has grown further.
| Re: Lineside fire 01/08/2026 In "London to South Wales" [377717/32309/11] Posted by Trowres at 17:39, 2nd August 2026 | ![]() |
Yes, the GWR info on Journeycheck was clear and a fair representation of the plan being followed.
TfW have abandoned Journeycheck; their website gave the following on Sunday afternoon (2/8/26):
Update: Incident due to a fire next to the track between Newport (South Wales) (NWP) and Cardiff Central (CDF) until 20:00.
Due to a fire next to the track between Newport (South Wales) (NWP) and Cardiff Central (CDF):
Services will be delayed by up to 60 minutes.
Services will be cancelled in both directions between Cardiff Central (CDF) and Newport (South Wales) (NWP).
We expect the incident to last until 20:00 and disruption to services is expected from 14:00 on 01/08/2026 until 00:00 on 03/08/2026.
What's Happened?
Following a lineside fire in the Marshfield area between Cardiff Central and Newport.
Fewer services are able to run, but residual delays of around 60 minutes are to be expected.
We apologise for the disruption caused to your journey.
Your ticket can be used on the following alternative routes to help you complete your journey, with the Train Operating Companies listed below at no extra cost:
Great Western Railway by any reasonable route
CrossCountry between Cardiff Central and Cheltenham Spa
These arrangements are in place on services until the end of the day.
If you decide to travel from a different station due to this disruption and need to return to that station later, you will also be able to use your existing ticket to do this at no extra cost.
You can use the following local bus services to help you complete your journey, at no extra cost:
X24 / 23 provided by Stagecoach South Wales between Newport and Pontypool via Cwmbran.
Route 30 provided by Cardiff Bus between Cardiff and Newport.
Route X30 provided by Newport Bus between Newport and Cardiff.
You may use your ticket on the following alternative dates at no extra cost:
02/08/2026
03/08/2026
Due to a fire next to the track between Newport (South Wales) (NWP) and Cardiff Central (CDF):
Services will be delayed by up to 60 minutes.
Services will be cancelled in both directions between Cardiff Central (CDF) and Newport (South Wales) (NWP).
We expect the incident to last until 20:00 and disruption to services is expected from 14:00 on 01/08/2026 until 00:00 on 03/08/2026.
What's Happened?
Following a lineside fire in the Marshfield area between Cardiff Central and Newport.
Fewer services are able to run, but residual delays of around 60 minutes are to be expected.
We apologise for the disruption caused to your journey.
Your ticket can be used on the following alternative routes to help you complete your journey, with the Train Operating Companies listed below at no extra cost:
Great Western Railway by any reasonable route
CrossCountry between Cardiff Central and Cheltenham Spa
These arrangements are in place on services until the end of the day.
If you decide to travel from a different station due to this disruption and need to return to that station later, you will also be able to use your existing ticket to do this at no extra cost.
You can use the following local bus services to help you complete your journey, at no extra cost:
X24 / 23 provided by Stagecoach South Wales between Newport and Pontypool via Cwmbran.
Route 30 provided by Cardiff Bus between Cardiff and Newport.
Route X30 provided by Newport Bus between Newport and Cardiff.
You may use your ticket on the following alternative dates at no extra cost:
02/08/2026
03/08/2026
Meanwhile the local e-rag has provided the following advice from TfW:
In a series of updates this morning, August 2, Transport for Wales Rail said the incident “is expected to last until further notice and disruption to services is expected until further notice”, confirming that trains between Cardiff Central (CDF) and Newport (NWP) are cancelled in both directions and that fewer services are able to run across the wider network.
(my highlighting).
Congestion
Hmm...
The stock for the 1404 Frome-Swindon (1M11) comes from Westbury as an ECS (5M11), departing Westbury sidings at 1325.
Today, it appears not to have run.
Instead, there was a Very-short-term-planning (VST) passenger service from Westbury to Bristol TM, scheduled to depart from Westbury at 1330. Coincidence that its reporting code was 1Z11?
It returned from Bristol to Westbury as 1Z12, arriving a little earlier than the scheduled 1523 at platform 2.
This suggests it was in the right place to form the rump end to Frome of the otherwise cancelled 1544 Swindon-Frome.
The only thing I can see that might be termed "congestion" is that trains between Paddington and South Wales are running via Chippenham today (and are also a bit off booked times due to yesterday's fire west of Newport).
| West Midlands boaters race against clock as drained canals close - August 2026 In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [377715/32315/51] Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 17:11, 2nd August 2026 | ![]() |
From the BBC:
Boaters race against clock as drained canals close

Repair work is under way at a lock on the Hatton flight near Warwick - Image © Nici Griffin
Boaters are racing against the clock to beat canal closures as waterways run dry due to extreme heat.
Some channels connecting large parts of the Midlands and the North of England have lost several inches of water, leaving narrowboats stuck and those already on the canals facing being stranded miles from home for weeks on end.
Campaigner George Seward said he was getting up at 05:00 BST and cruising until dark to get his narrowboat through the Atherstone flight of locks, after a sudden closure was announced. "They're unlikely to be open again for many weeks and I want to make sure I get through that flight so I can get my boat safely home," he said.
The locks on the Coventry Canal in Warwickshire are due to shut on Tuesday morning, with last entry on Monday afternoon, as the Canal and River Trust (CRT) tries to conserve dwindling supplies.
For Seward, who is Midlands regional chair of the Association of Waterways Cruising Clubs, the deadline is the difference between getting his boat home to Hinckley in Leicestershire and being potentially marooned for an unspecified period.
(BBC article continues)

Repair work is under way at a lock on the Hatton flight near Warwick - Image © Nici Griffin
Boaters are racing against the clock to beat canal closures as waterways run dry due to extreme heat.
Some channels connecting large parts of the Midlands and the North of England have lost several inches of water, leaving narrowboats stuck and those already on the canals facing being stranded miles from home for weeks on end.
Campaigner George Seward said he was getting up at 05:00 BST and cruising until dark to get his narrowboat through the Atherstone flight of locks, after a sudden closure was announced. "They're unlikely to be open again for many weeks and I want to make sure I get through that flight so I can get my boat safely home," he said.
The locks on the Coventry Canal in Warwickshire are due to shut on Tuesday morning, with last entry on Monday afternoon, as the Canal and River Trust (CRT) tries to conserve dwindling supplies.
For Seward, who is Midlands regional chair of the Association of Waterways Cruising Clubs, the deadline is the difference between getting his boat home to Hinckley in Leicestershire and being potentially marooned for an unspecified period.
(BBC article continues)
| Re: West Wilts Rail User Group - 16th September 2026 In "Diary - what's happening when?" [377714/32313/34] Posted by ChrisB at 16:42, 2nd August 2026 Already liked by Chris from Nailsea | ![]() |
Responsible for the order, not necessarily being a responsible civil servant!

| Re: West Wilts Rail User Group - 16th September 2026 In "Diary - what's happening when?" [377713/32313/34] Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 16:34, 2nd August 2026 | ![]() |
Hmmm.

At the risk of possibly causing offence to Peter West: I amended grahame's original post, where he had referred to Peter West as 'the franchise manger at the DfT' - and is there any such entity as a 'responsible civil servant'?
I apologize for any offence I may cause by posting this, my personal opinion, not an official view from the Coffee Shop forum.
CfN.

| Re: The People's Emergency - film, free, 27.5.2026 In "Diary - what's happening when?" [377712/32079/34] Posted by ChrisB at 16:27, 2nd August 2026 | ![]() |
More left than Burnham's lot.....sorry, they're not tropes, all true.
You have no idea what congestion there can be, at Melksham station. I''ve seen it - five cars in the parking area there, all at the same time!

| Re: West Wilts Rail User Group - 16th September 2026 In "Diary - what's happening when?" [377710/32313/34] Posted by ChrisB at 16:20, 2nd August 2026 | ![]() |
ooooohhh....wsh I could be there.
I've always wanted to know why he ordered IETs that are so not suited to the Wests railways.....and he was the responsible civil servant
| Re: Cannington Viaduct visit weekend In "Railway History and related topics" [377709/32301/55] Posted by chuffed at 16:07, 2nd August 2026 | ![]() |
The calender CFN keps in the Nookies and Trannies.....
14:04 Frome to Swindon due 14:57
14:04 Frome to Swindon due 14:57 will be cancelled.
This is due to congestion.
15:44 Swindon to Frome due 16:38
15:44 Swindon to Frome due 16:38 will be started from Westbury.
It will no longer call at Swindon, Chippenham, Melksham and Trowbridge.
This is due to congestion.
I'd love to know what GWR's definition of 'congestion' is.14:04 Frome to Swindon due 14:57 will be cancelled.
This is due to congestion.
15:44 Swindon to Frome due 16:38
15:44 Swindon to Frome due 16:38 will be started from Westbury.
It will no longer call at Swindon, Chippenham, Melksham and Trowbridge.
This is due to congestion.
So many questions around one word, which to me, doesn't say anything!
14:04 Frome to Swindon due 14:57
14:04 Frome to Swindon due 14:57 will be cancelled.
This is due to congestion.
15:44 Swindon to Frome due 16:38
15:44 Swindon to Frome due 16:38 will be started from Westbury.
It will no longer call at Swindon, Chippenham, Melksham and Trowbridge.
This is due to congestion.
| Re: Diesel trains at Woking to soon be replaced by electrics? In "South Western services" [377706/32312/42] Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 13:09, 2nd August 2026 | ![]() |
Hmm.
That's a different answer to a different question.

| Re: Diesel trains at Woking to soon be replaced by electrics? In "South Western services" [377705/32312/42] Posted by stuving at 12:47, 2nd August 2026 | ![]() |
The replies on Facebook are quite fun to read, but so far he doesn't seem to have explained what he has based his bizarre claim on.
I found it interesting that the minister (?) replying on behalf of the government did not point out that his claim was wrong, but pointed out that electric trains will bring efficiencies ... which (he hoped) would include the minister's consituency. I find myself wondering if GBR|SW in their timetable recast is considering terminating diesel trains from west of Basingstoke at Basingstoke, with connections from there onwards into London?
I thought the PUSS's answer sounded like the question was based on a government statement of some kind. I also wondered when that exchange took place - no date I could see.
I actually came from commons question to the SoS for transport, on June 11th. This section is headlined in Hansard as about transport decarbonisation, but I'm not sure if it was planned as such or just emerged. The three questions in that section start with:
Amanda Martin
(Portsmouth North) (Lab)
10. What steps she is taking to help decarbonise the transport sector. (900360)
The Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State for Transport
(Keir Mather)
Decarbonising transport is vital for our energy security and to make the network fit for the future. We are turbocharging the roll-out of electric vehicles, overhauling public transport, supporting low carbon fuel uptake in aviation, and funding technology innovation for maritime through the multimillion-pound UK Shipping Office for Reducing Emissions research programme.
(Portsmouth North) (Lab)
10. What steps she is taking to help decarbonise the transport sector. (900360)
The Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State for Transport
(Keir Mather)
Decarbonising transport is vital for our energy security and to make the network fit for the future. We are turbocharging the roll-out of electric vehicles, overhauling public transport, supporting low carbon fuel uptake in aviation, and funding technology innovation for maritime through the multimillion-pound UK Shipping Office for Reducing Emissions research programme.
After that rather woolly (but still overstated) answer and her follow-up question about Portsmouth port, Will Forster jumps in with his. So it was seen at the time, I'm sure, as based on the published decarbonisation plans, which as we all know are largely a deadline-free zone. For the record:
Mr Will Forster
(Woking) (LD)
Can the Minister assure me that when the diesel trains that operate on the South Western Railway network are replaced with electric trains to decarbonise the network, there will be no reduction in service for my commuting constituents in Woking?
Keir Mather
We believe that the benefits of having electric rolling stock for our train services actually allow us to improve efficiency on the railway, and I hope that those improvements can be realised for the hon. Gentleman’s constituents.
(Woking) (LD)
Can the Minister assure me that when the diesel trains that operate on the South Western Railway network are replaced with electric trains to decarbonise the network, there will be no reduction in service for my commuting constituents in Woking?
Keir Mather
We believe that the benefits of having electric rolling stock for our train services actually allow us to improve efficiency on the railway, and I hope that those improvements can be realised for the hon. Gentleman’s constituents.
| Indonesia - Five dead, 41 missing, after ferry catches fire - 2 August 2026 In "The Wider Picture Overseas" [377704/32314/52] Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 12:28, 2nd August 2026 | ![]() |
From the BBC:
Five dead, 41 missing, after Indonesia ferry catches fire

KMP Mutiara Sentosa 2 ferry with thick plumes of smoke billowing from behind - Image © Basarnas
Five people have been found dead and 41 are missing after an Indonesian ferry carrying at least 250 people caught fire while at sea, officials say.
The captain of the ship reported the fire - off Madura island - as the vessel sailed from the country's second-largest city, Surabaya in East Java, to Makassar in South Sulawesi, according to Basarnas, the National Search and Rescue Agency.
Footage played by local Indonesian news outlet iNews shows large numbers of people in life jackets on what appears to be a lifeboat.
Other clips show people climbing down from the ferry that has flames and plumes of smoke coming from the top of the vessel.
Basarnas posted a video to its TikTok, with a statement saying at 08:24 (02:24 GMT) the Surabaya Search and Rescue office received information that passenger ship KMP Mutiara Sentosa 2 was on fire.
"Based on information from the shipping company, the fire occurred at around 06:00-07:00 (00:00-01:00 GMT)."
Later, Basarnas said it got confirmation the ferry "was almost entirely engulfed in flames" as "passengers held on in the ship's bridge and bow while awaiting rescue".
In some of the footage, can be seen jumping into the sea, with crowds of people in life jackets gathering and lifebuoys being thrown to some before they are carried into a rescue ship.
(BBC article continues, and is being updated)

KMP Mutiara Sentosa 2 ferry with thick plumes of smoke billowing from behind - Image © Basarnas
Five people have been found dead and 41 are missing after an Indonesian ferry carrying at least 250 people caught fire while at sea, officials say.
The captain of the ship reported the fire - off Madura island - as the vessel sailed from the country's second-largest city, Surabaya in East Java, to Makassar in South Sulawesi, according to Basarnas, the National Search and Rescue Agency.
Footage played by local Indonesian news outlet iNews shows large numbers of people in life jackets on what appears to be a lifeboat.
Other clips show people climbing down from the ferry that has flames and plumes of smoke coming from the top of the vessel.
Basarnas posted a video to its TikTok, with a statement saying at 08:24 (02:24 GMT) the Surabaya Search and Rescue office received information that passenger ship KMP Mutiara Sentosa 2 was on fire.
"Based on information from the shipping company, the fire occurred at around 06:00-07:00 (00:00-01:00 GMT)."
Later, Basarnas said it got confirmation the ferry "was almost entirely engulfed in flames" as "passengers held on in the ship's bridge and bow while awaiting rescue".
In some of the footage, can be seen jumping into the sea, with crowds of people in life jackets gathering and lifebuoys being thrown to some before they are carried into a rescue ship.
(BBC article continues, and is being updated)
| Re: An example that perhaps Bristol and Bath should follow? In "Bristol and Bath (WECA, now WEMCA)" [377703/32311/21] Posted by grahame at 11:36, 2nd August 2026 | ![]() |
We don't even need to look that far. The 398s being introduced in South Wales are based on the same tram-train platform and some of the extensions being done and planned in terms of street running are great examples for showing what you could do.
Our speaker at the November 25th 2026 meeting of the West Wiltshire Rail User group will be Nathan Sealey, Head of Practice - Systems Engineering and BIM | Consulting Rail at Amey, who has had rather a lot
to do with the South Wales Metro. We may hear some things looking ahead to the Bath and Wiltshire metro too.Meeting from 19:00 (for networking and coffee) with Nathan talking from 19:30. Paid up members of WWRUG - it's included. Guests welcome for £2 on the night (cash only). At the Bethesda Church Hall, near to Trowbridge station, with a finish time such that it works out well for trains in all sorts of directions even before we have metro frequency!
| West Wilts Rail User Group - 16th September 2026 In "Diary - what's happening when?" [377702/32313/34] Posted by grahame at 11:25, 2nd August 2026 | ![]() |
Our speaker at WWRUG on 16th September will be Peter West, who was the franchise manager at the DfT for many years. He is now a member of the board at the Severnside Community Rail Partnership.
WWRUG meets at the Bethesda Church Hall in Trowbridge - open from 19:00 for networking and coffees, with the speaker at 19:30. It's only 100 yards or so from Trowbridge station and we finish in time for "carriages' - for you to connect with trains home around 21:15. Meeting costs are include in West Wiltshire Membership fees (which are a bargain) but guests are welcome too at £2 a head.
Edit note: I have corrected one of grahame's trademark typos here, for clarity. CfN.
| Re: Network Rail press release: passengers and luggage In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [377701/32295/51] Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 10:52, 2nd August 2026 | ![]() |
Years ago, for reasons so obscure that I won't bore you with them here, I conveyed a folding table from Nailsea & Backwell to Melksham by train.
The dimensions of that table exceeded many surfboards, and it weighed considerably more, but I was able (just) to carry it from home to NLS, then from MKM to grahame's. The train journeys in between were no problem at all: I simply propped the table against the bulkhead in the cycle area, without inconveniencing any cycle rack users, obviously.
CfN.

| Re: Diesel trains at Woking to soon be replaced by electrics? In "South Western services" [377700/32312/42] Posted by grahame at 10:49, 2nd August 2026 | ![]() |
The replies on Facebook are quite fun to read, but so far he doesn't seem to have explained what he has based his bizarre claim on.
I found it interesting that the minister (?) replying on behalf of the government did not point out that his claim was wrong, but pointed out that electric trains will bring efficiencies ... which (he hoped) would include the minister's consituency. I find myself wondering if GBR|SW in their timetable recast is considering terminating diesel trains from west of Basingstoke at Basingstoke, with connections from there onwards into London?
| Re: Cannington Viaduct visit weekend In "Railway History and related topics" [377699/32301/55] Posted by GBM at 10:38, 2nd August 2026 Already liked by Chris from Nailsea, Oxonhutch, chuffed | ![]() |
Network AwayDay was the ticket name....
I seem to recall one of the TV comedy shows of the time suggesting a spicier railway product named a 'HaveItAwayDay' ticket.
I have now added this topic to the Coffee Shop forum's calendar. 

Which one?

(Not a serious question)
| Re: Diesel trains at Woking to soon be replaced by electrics? In "South Western services" [377698/32312/42] Posted by Ralph Ayres at 10:15, 2nd August 2026 | ![]() |
The replies on Facebook are quite fun to read, but so far he doesn't seem to have explained what he has based his bizarre claim on.
| Re: An example that perhaps Bristol and Bath should follow? In "Bristol and Bath (WECA, now WEMCA)" [377697/32311/21] Posted by WelshBluebird at 10:13, 2nd August 2026 | ![]() |
We don't even need to look that far. The 398s being introduced in South Wales are based on the same tram-train platform and some of the extensions being done and planned in terms of street running are great examples for showing what you could do.














