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Re: Imber Bus Day - merged topics, ongoing events and discussion here
In "Buses and other ways to travel" [378303/17260/5]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 22:55, 15th August 2026
 


Finn - holding up the traffic, again. 

Re: Imber Bus Day - merged topics, ongoing events and discussion here
In "Buses and other ways to travel" [378302/17260/5]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 22:46, 15th August 2026
 
A "Thumping" good day out  !!

The Hastings DMU returns to Warminster, from Westbury, to load up for the return trip to Tonbridge.



I saw that!  Well, I managed to get a glimpse of it, out of the droplight in a rammed unit between Warminster and Westbury (air conditioning failure). 

CfN. 

Re: Virgin's rail involvement after their franchises end
In "Looking forward - the next 2, 5, 10 and 20 years" [378301/21755/40]
Posted by IndustryInsider at 22:42, 15th August 2026
Already liked by Chris from Nailsea
 
Always happy to try and ensure some balance, CfN!

Re: Imber Bus Day - merged topics, ongoing events and discussion here
In "Buses and other ways to travel" [378300/17260/5]
Posted by JayMac at 22:26, 15th August 2026
 
The first time is always an eye-opener, CfN!

Glad you enjoyed the day. I was one of those numerous bus enthusiast photographers myself a couple years ago. Accompanied by my best friend.

EDIT: I never did get round to putting together a YouTube compilation from all my video and photos taken in 2024. Still have tjem all saved. One day maybe...


Re: Swindon <-> Westbury service updates and amendments, ongoing discussion - 2026
In "TransWilts line - Swindon, Chippenham, Melksham, Trowbridge, Westbury, Salisbury" [378299/31359/18]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 22:15, 15th August 2026
 
A crew member was telling me very recently that he does not sign Westbury to Chippenham (in the context of not being able to staff diverted services because of one of the bridge strikes at Limpley Stoke).  Has me wondering if it's not so much a simple "crew shortage" but rather the wrong type of crew.

Hmm. I'm not sure it's a case of 'the wrong type of crew' - more a shortage of the right type of crew - those who have the necessary training and therefore ability to carry out that duty, on a diverted service.

Sorry for being a pedant - but at least it bumped this topic.  I can do that, because I'm an admin (with my greatest respects to grahame). 

CfN. 


Re: Virgin's rail involvement after their franchises end
In "Looking forward - the next 2, 5, 10 and 20 years" [378298/21755/40]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 21:21, 15th August 2026
Already liked by IndustryInsider
 
Though let's not forget that they generally received a panning for their Cross Country operation and ordered the fleet of 4/5 car Voyagers that has hamstrung the franchise ever since.  They were responsible for the fiasco that was 'Operation Princess' where punctuality dropped to little more than 50%, and were involved in plans for a Paddington to Birmingham via Swindon service that eventually came to nought.

No need to hold back there, II. 

CfN. 

Re: Imber Bus Day - merged topics, ongoing events and discussion here
In "Buses and other ways to travel" [378297/17260/5]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 20:29, 15th August 2026
 
Today was my first experience of an Imber Bus day.  I met up with grahame, and we toured (some of) the 23A route in company.

My impressions are all favourable.  I was frankly rather startled to see just how many people were queuing up to 'get a bus to Imber' at Warminster Station.  I was also amazed at how huge the military firing range on Salisbury Plain is: I'd looked at it on an Ordnance Survey map, and noted that it is quite extensive - but travelling through it, in real life, it's vast!  Lots of rusting hulks of old tanks, visible from the roadway, but with cheery warning signs saying 'These are targets - Do not try to play on them'.

Interestingly, on almost every corner and junction, there were bus enthusiast photographers (and I do not use that term in any way derogatively) who had apparently negotiated their way to such vantage points.

My thanks to grahame, for acting as my local guide during my exploration: it was a grand day out.

CfN. 

Re: Imber Bus Day - merged topics, ongoing events and discussion here
In "Buses and other ways to travel" [378296/17260/5]
Posted by grahame at 19:37, 15th August 2026
 
From across a wide, wide area, they gathered with their cameras and binoculars, hoping to get a glance and perhaps even a rare LondonBus away from its natural habitat










Re: Imber Bus Day - merged topics, ongoing events and discussion here
In "Buses and other ways to travel" [378295/17260/5]
Posted by Clan Line at 18:24, 15th August 2026
Already liked by FarWestJohn, Mark A
 
A "Thumping" good day out  !!

The Hastings DMU returns to Warminster, from Westbury, to load up for the return trip to Tonbridge.


A special Dutch problem on the line between Groningen and Zwolle
In "The Wider Picture Overseas" [378294/32370/52]
Posted by RailCornwall at 18:19, 15th August 2026
 
Cabview Holland has released another video today. This time of a duty between Groningen and Zwolle a journey featuring both a lethal polished floor at Groningen station and a plague of STORKS nesting in the catenary cable OHE structures. They're brazen creatures not disposed to shift even with a 120kph mulit car NS Sprinter picking up power beneath their nests.

Enjoy....

https://youtu.be/mPtrF0EF0Es?si=9YilELDtsyZbrv6X


Re: Swindon <-> Westbury service updates and amendments, ongoing discussion - 2026
In "TransWilts line - Swindon, Chippenham, Melksham, Trowbridge, Westbury, Salisbury" [378293/31359/18]
Posted by TaplowGreen at 17:13, 15th August 2026
 
16:23 Westbury to Swindon due 17:05
16:23 Westbury to Swindon due 17:05 is being delayed at Westbury.
This is due to train crew being delayed by service disruption.

Re: Thames Valley infrastructure problems causing disruption elsewhere - 2026
In "Across the West" [378292/31163/26]
Posted by TaplowGreen at 17:12, 15th August 2026
 
Cancellations to services between Westbury and Reading

Due to a safety inspection of the track between Westbury and Reading the line towards Reading is blocked.

Train services running to and from these stations will be cancelled or delayed. Disruption is expected until 19:00 15/08.

Re: Virgin's rail involvement after their franchises end
In "Looking forward - the next 2, 5, 10 and 20 years" [378291/21755/40]
Posted by IndustryInsider at 13:32, 15th August 2026
Already liked by Richard Fairhurst
 
Came up "on this day", Virgin pulling out of further rail franchise bids.

It may "just" have been marketing, but those Virgin services I used and saw seemed to have a much more human - customer aware - attitude and approach than others.  When we flew regularly (and that's looking back now) we far preferred Virgin Atlantic over certain other products; not that there was much difference in cost or reliability, but when things went wrong the customer care we received outshone the others.

I think that demonstrates the difference of an organisation like Virgin where customer service was embedded culturally throughout all aspects of its business.

Though let's not forget that they generally received a panning for their Cross Country operation and ordered the fleet of 4/5 car Voyagers that has hamstrung the franchise ever since.  They were responsible for the fiasco that was 'Operation Princess' where punctuality dropped to little more than 50%, and were involved in plans for a Paddington to Birmingham via Swindon service that eventually came to nought.


Re: Virgin's rail involvement after their franchises end
In "Looking forward - the next 2, 5, 10 and 20 years" [378290/21755/40]
Posted by TaplowGreen at 12:05, 15th August 2026
 
Came up "on this day", Virgin pulling out of further rail franchise bids.

It may "just" have been marketing, but those Virgin services I used and saw seemed to have a much more human - customer aware - attitude and approach than others.  When we flew regularly (and that's looking back now) we far preferred Virgin Atlantic over certain other products; not that there was much difference in cost or reliability, but when things went wrong the customer care we received outshone the others.

I think that demonstrates the difference of an organisation like Virgin where customer service was embedded culturally throughout all aspects of its business.

Re: Burnham urged to extend railcard discounts to over 30s
In "Fare's Fair" [378289/32369/4]
Posted by TaplowGreen at 12:02, 15th August 2026
 
Hm. It is, but I'm a bit sceptical about claims like this:

Zoe Billingham, the director of the IPPR North think tank, has also called for ministers to think about ways to roll out more discounted fares in northern England.

“It’s not right that there’s a Network Railcard that offers discounted off-peak travel for the South East of England only,” she said.

“The North has suffered the double blow of unreliable train services on Victorian infrastructure whilst paying full fares.

An anytime day return from Didcot Parkway to Swindon, about 25 miles, is £65.20. An anytime day return from Hebden Bridge to Manchester, about 25 miles, is £15.60. Neither qualify for Network Card discounts. Not all "full fares" are the same.

Is that an edge case or a common scenario?

Re: Air conditioning on trains - apparently excessive sometimes - if working at all?
In "Introductions and chat" [378288/32367/1]
Posted by GBM at 11:36, 15th August 2026
 
Bearing in mind that people (well, most) dress for the weather, it would make sense for the interior temperature of the train to partially track the outside temperature - so that it's (say) 21C much of the year, but 25C when outside is 30C.

Apart from being more comfortable, it would also reduce energy consumption and wear on the A/C system.

A related issue is the diffusion (or not) of the cooled air supplied to the passenger saloon. I've had to move seats on a double-deck train in the Netherlands due to the frigid wind concentrated on my original location.
Ouch, sounds painful!..

Re: Burnham urged to extend railcard discounts to over 30s
In "Fare's Fair" [378287/32369/4]
Posted by grahame at 11:30, 15th August 2026
Already liked by GBM, Mark A
 
Cue member grahame on Melksham fares.......

Can't really answer today - offline at the moment in Tilshead ... (oops ... I seem to be here!)

Re: Burnham urged to extend railcard discounts to over 30s
In "Fare's Fair" [378286/32369/4]
Posted by GBM at 11:24, 15th August 2026
 
Hm. It is, but I'm a bit sceptical about claims like this:

An anytime day return from Didcot Parkway to Swindon, about 25 miles, is £65.20. An anytime day return from Hebden Bridge to Manchester, about 25 miles, is £15.60. Neither qualify for Network Card discounts. Not all "full fares" are the same.

Cue member grahame on Melksham fares.......

Re: Burnham urged to extend railcard discounts to over 30s
In "Fare's Fair" [378285/32369/4]
Posted by Richard Fairhurst at 10:30, 15th August 2026
Already liked by Mark A, eightonedee, Chris from Nailsea, PhilWakely, John D
 
Hm. It is, but I'm a bit sceptical about claims like this:

Zoe Billingham, the director of the IPPR North think tank, has also called for ministers to think about ways to roll out more discounted fares in northern England.

“It’s not right that there’s a Network Railcard that offers discounted off-peak travel for the South East of England only,” she said.

“The North has suffered the double blow of unreliable train services on Victorian infrastructure whilst paying full fares.

An anytime day return from Didcot Parkway to Swindon, about 25 miles, is £65.20. An anytime day return from Hebden Bridge to Manchester, about 25 miles, is £15.60. Neither qualify for Network Card discounts. Not all "full fares" are the same.

Burnham urged to extend railcard discounts to over 30s
In "Fare's Fair" [378284/32369/4]
Posted by TaplowGreen at 09:58, 15th August 2026
 
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/burnham-rail-fares-commuters-adam-dance-b3033468.html?fbclid=IwY2xjawTtCNxwZG9mBWV4dG4DYWVtAjEwAGJyaWQRMUFiZkpXSVlaNVVUcndWVE9zcnRjBmFwcF9pZBAyMjIwMzkxNzg4MjAwODkyAAEec9CyIOW_F6MCBceAC8Njym5EiWNec4B2edzDkXF2BvCp9w93EzoQlVYdcus_aem_f6UImbDWggcLSLKJjSNC8Q

Interesting idea.

Re: Six-hour train services between London and Stirling running with no toilets
In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [378283/32334/51]
Posted by Bob_Blakey at 07:59, 15th August 2026
 
It does not appear to have been made clear that Lumo have stated categorically that none of their Stirling trains enter service without at least some working WC's and the issue seems to be one of 'mid-journey' failure.

And that's rubbish anyway! Their early morning 0615? to Stirling left London with NO working toilets the other day - Lumo even tweeted the news themselves & indicated extra-long toilet stops were going to happen.

The gist of my original comment was 'nicked' from the Green Signals Podcast article of Thursday 13th August. So Lumo told messrs Harris and/or Bowker a blatant lie? In the same article it was also said that the WC systems were not part of the refurbishment programme (see above).

Re: Ryanair - routes, schedules, incidents and issues (merged posts)
In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [378282/29076/51]
Posted by Bob_Blakey at 07:33, 15th August 2026
 
Ryanair.

Enough said. 

Possibly somewhat unfair in view of this:
https://www.thesun.co.uk/travel/13209387/pilot-sucked-ba-cockpit-window/ 

Re: Derailment, Lewes, 13 Aug 2026
In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [378281/32362/51]
Posted by grahame at 07:08, 15th August 2026
 
An excursion returning to Derby from Eastbourne traversed the westbound track at about 17:35; seemingly, the only train to run on this line for quite some time.

Reminds me of tales of the "Sunny South Express" trains 100 years ago bringing holiday makers from the Midlands to the South Coast

From Sankey Scenics

This train was very popular with holiday makers heading for the south coast in the 1920s and 30s. It was a direct service from the north avoiding the inconvenience of crossing London. Starting at Manchester at 10.40 a.m. and Liverpool at 10.35 a.m., the two sections joined at Crewe and then headed south. At Willesden a locomotive from the Southern took over the train and then proceeded to skirt through west London on its way to Brighton, Eastbourne, Bexhill and Hastings.

Re: Swindon <-> Westbury service updates and amendments, ongoing discussion - 2026
In "TransWilts line - Swindon, Chippenham, Melksham, Trowbridge, Westbury, Salisbury" [378280/31359/18]
Posted by grahame at 06:26, 15th August 2026
Already liked by rogerw
 
14:19 Westbury to Swindon due 15:01
15:14 Swindon to Westbury due 15:58

15:14 Swindon to Westbury due 15:58 will be cancelled.
This is due to a shortage of train crew.

A crew member was telling me very recently that he does not sign Westbury to Chippenham (in the context of not being able to staff diverted services because of one of the bridge strikes at Limpley Stoke).  Has me wondering if it's not o much a simple "crew shortage" but rather the wrong type of crew.

Re: Virgin's rail involvement after their franchises end
In "Looking forward - the next 2, 5, 10 and 20 years" [378279/21755/40]
Posted by grahame at 06:23, 15th August 2026
Already liked by TaplowGreen, GBM
 
Came up "on this day", Virgin pulling out of further rail franchise bids.

It may "just" have been marketing, but those Virgin services I used and saw seemed to have a much more human - customer aware - attitude and approach than others.  When we flew regularly (and that's looking back now) we far preferred Virgin Atlantic over certain other products; not that there was much difference in cost or reliability, but when things went wrong the customer care we received outshone the others.

Re: Imber Bus Day - merged topics, ongoing events and discussion here
In "Buses and other ways to travel" [378278/17260/5]
Posted by grahame at 06:15, 15th August 2026
 
One can only hope that there are no crew shortages, and that there are not more buses than usual requiring repairs at the same time.

The only crew shortage around this morning ...

14:19 Westbury to Swindon due 15:01
15:14 Swindon to Westbury due 15:58

15:14 Swindon to Westbury due 15:58 will be cancelled.
This is due to a shortage of train crew.

I suspect that there IS enough crew around - just not enough with the route knowdlege.

Thank goodness that root knowledge with experience in the prior 6 months is NOT a requirement on route 23A which runs from Warminster, via Imber to Gore's Cross, journeys on to Brazen Bottom, Chitterne and New Zealand Camp.

Re: Ryanair - routes, schedules, incidents and issues (merged posts)
In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [378277/29076/51]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 00:48, 15th August 2026
 
Ryanair.

Enough said. 

Kings Lynn - Ely Track circuit failure 14th August 2026
In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [378276/32368/51]
Posted by Trowres at 23:32, 14th August 2026
 
The following headline appeared on National Rail at 14:22:
No trains between Ely and Kings Lynn until the end of the day

However at 19:38:
Trains are returning to normal following an earlier fault with the signalling system between Ely and Kings Lynn.
As services recover, trains may still be cancelled or revised.
Disruption is expected until the end of the day.
Customer advice:
Trains can now run between Ely and Kings Lynn again. You can now travel on your booked route.

First southbound train from Kings Lynn was about 21:40 - using a headcode not recognised by RTT.
First northbound arrival was from Kings Cross; scheduled at 20:12 but actually arriving at 22:01.

I have no idea what info was available on the trains or stations. Great Northern doesn't seem to do individual train reporting on its own equivalent to Journeycheck, but their live departures and arrivals seemed to alternate between showing trains and a "no trains found" sort of message.

Edit to add this excerpt from the supporting text of the incident:
your journey may take up to at least 45 minutes longer than usual

 


Re: Derailment, Lewes, 13 Aug 2026
In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [378275/32362/51]
Posted by Trowres at 23:09, 14th August 2026
 
The fault seems to affect only the eastbound line between Polegate and Hampden Park?

An excursion returning to Derby from Eastbourne traversed the westbound track at about 17:35; seemingly, the only train to run on this line for quite some time.

Re: Air conditioning on trains - apparently excessive sometimes - if working at all?
In "Introductions and chat" [378274/32367/1]
Posted by eightonedee at 22:07, 14th August 2026
 
I've had to move seats on a double-deck train in the Netherlands due to the frigid wind concentrated on my original location.

If it's one of the type with a rounded roof, so that those on the upper deck sit (effectively) under a glass dome. I have roasted there on a sunny but cold day in February when there was still some snow on the ground outside. They must be a nightmare to cool effectively inside in the kind of weather we are currently experiencing.

 
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