| Re: Road marking errors, causing confusion and mirth - merged posts Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 15:59, 10th February 2026 | ![]() ![]() ![]() |
From the BBC:
Road markings painted in Basingstoke potholes days before repairs

A team from Hampshire County Council painted markings on the road just days before it was repaired by the same council
A council has been accused of wasting money after painting road markings over potholes just days before they were repaired.
Hampshire County Council painted the 'School Keep Clear' markings on the damaged carriageway of Sullivan Road, near Chalk Ridge Primary School, in Basingstoke. Days later, another team from the council fixed the road - obliterating the work of the first group.
The council said repainting faded school markings is important for safety, but accepted the job should have been paused until after the repairs.
Liberal Democrat councillor Andrea Bowes, from Basingstoke and Deane Borough Council, said she was "gobsmacked" by the blunder. "It's such a ludicrous waste of money, almost to the point of being farcical," she said. "I was horrified to the point of laughter. It's a case where, if you don't laugh, you're going to cry."
Bowes said better communication within the council could have prevented the error. She continued: "This is different departments within the same council and they're obviously just not talking to each other. It doesn't take much - an email or a memo just saying 'we're going to be doing this on this day, is there anything we need to know?'."

The council accepted that the re-lining should have taken place after the road was repaired
A Hampshire County Council spokesperson said: "Recent weather conditions have caused road defects to appear more rapidly across the county, and in some cases, issues develop after works are scheduled but before they take place. Our highways team work hard to carefully coordinate and deliver hundreds of repairs every day, and we recognise that, ideally, the re-lining should have been paused to allow the repair to be completed first. However, re-painting fading road markings is important to reduce risks outside schools, so the crew proceeded as planned."
The council said it was now preparing to repaint the school markings on the road.

A team from Hampshire County Council painted markings on the road just days before it was repaired by the same council
A council has been accused of wasting money after painting road markings over potholes just days before they were repaired.
Hampshire County Council painted the 'School Keep Clear' markings on the damaged carriageway of Sullivan Road, near Chalk Ridge Primary School, in Basingstoke. Days later, another team from the council fixed the road - obliterating the work of the first group.
The council said repainting faded school markings is important for safety, but accepted the job should have been paused until after the repairs.
Liberal Democrat councillor Andrea Bowes, from Basingstoke and Deane Borough Council, said she was "gobsmacked" by the blunder. "It's such a ludicrous waste of money, almost to the point of being farcical," she said. "I was horrified to the point of laughter. It's a case where, if you don't laugh, you're going to cry."
Bowes said better communication within the council could have prevented the error. She continued: "This is different departments within the same council and they're obviously just not talking to each other. It doesn't take much - an email or a memo just saying 'we're going to be doing this on this day, is there anything we need to know?'."

The council accepted that the re-lining should have taken place after the road was repaired
A Hampshire County Council spokesperson said: "Recent weather conditions have caused road defects to appear more rapidly across the county, and in some cases, issues develop after works are scheduled but before they take place. Our highways team work hard to carefully coordinate and deliver hundreds of repairs every day, and we recognise that, ideally, the re-lining should have been paused to allow the repair to be completed first. However, re-painting fading road markings is important to reduce risks outside schools, so the crew proceeded as planned."
The council said it was now preparing to repaint the school markings on the road.
| Re: Road marking errors, causing confusion and mirth - merged posts Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 16:00, 27th August 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() |
From the BBC:

August: The yellow box is gone but not forgotten
A yellow box junction which was hailed as the biggest in the UK and Ireland has been removed from a County Londonderry town.
The 40m-long yellow markings in Maghera were painted in June, then reduced in size in July, and now have disappeared completely. However, a yellow box is expected to make a comeback in the autumn, when resurfacing work in the town is completed.
Mid Ulster Councillor Denise Johnston said she wants a meeting with the Department for Infrastructure over what she described as "a waste" of public money. Questions have been asked about the cost of the work, and why the lines were painted in June if resurfacing work was planned in August.
SDLP councillor Denise Johnston told BBC Radio Foyle: "It just doesn't make sense and it's not a good use of public money. I do get the importance of a yellow box - a yellow box will be necessary there - but … if you know you're going to resurface the road two or three months later, why would you do it?" She said many people in Maghera had been left "bemused and confused".

July: The beginning of the end
The Department for Infrastructure (DfI), which is in charge of roads in Northern Ireland, said the costs could not be released as they were "commercially sensitive".
Explaining the changes which have taken place, a DfI spokesperson said: "The department implemented the yellow box markings at this location to assist with the ease of Translink bus movements to and from the main bus stop on St Lurachs Road.
"The extent of the markings was reviewed following initial installation and subsequently reduced in length to improve traffic flow. The yellow box marking will be reinstated upon completion of the resurfacing on Hall Street."

June: The yellow box in all its glory
Maghera, with its population of fewer than 5,000 people, was dubbed the "small town with the big yellow box" after the first appearance of the markings in June.
The extra-large box stretched along a busy junction frequently used by buses, lorries and cars. After complaints, the box was scaled back but it took a while as the distinctive yellow markings are not easily removed.
Public realm improvements have been taking place in the town for the past year. As well as installing new street furniture and widening footpaths, the project tried to tackle traffic flow issues.
| Re: Road marking errors, causing confusion and mirth - merged posts Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 20:48, 13th August 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() |
From the BBC:

Some of the yellow lines in Sea Lane, Old Hunstanton, are not as straight as drivers would expect
Wonky yellow lines painted on the roads of a coastal village have seen an attempt to improve parking problems take a strange turn.
The narrow lanes of Old Hunstanton often get clogged by parked vehicles as people head to the north-west Norfolk coast during the warmer months. That meant new regulations were brought in on 11 July, restricting parking on several roads between 08:00 and 18:00 over a five-month period. But Norfolk County Council said the new lines were below standard, and ordered remedial work as a "matter of urgency".
The meandering yellow lines, including on Sea Lane and Waterworks Road, are a mixture of double and single yellows. Some of them continue across the end of driveways and incorrectly merge into one another. They were painted on roads following a traffic regulation order (TRO) that was approved by the county council and came into effect on 11 July.

Some of the yellow lines in Old Hunstanton merge into one another
Tom de Winton is the Conservative West Norfolk borough councillor for Old Hunstanton and has been working alongside the village's parish council on the traffic issues in recent years. "We can all have a bit of a laugh about some wobbly yellow lines but the important thing is that our coastal villages do have a lot of traffic, particularly in the summer," he said. "Councillors in Old Hunstanton have tried very hard to get the TRO and have been under quite a lot of pressure. But also managing to get a TRO takes a hell of a lot of time to get done, so when a silly clot does a bad job then they need to be made to go and do it again."

Some of the lines have been painted over the end of people's driveways
A Norfolk County Council spokesperson said: "Unfortunately the double yellow lines at Old Hunstanton have not been installed to Norfolk County Council's specification or standards. Accordingly, we have requested the contractor to undertake remedial works as a matter of urgency. Some of these works have already taken place but others will be carried out over the coming weeks once the surface has been prepared. All remedial works will be completed at no cost to Norfolk County Council."
| Re: Vibrant or dangerous? Colourful roundabout redesign divides village in Berkshire Posted by eightonedee at 09:11, 5th February 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Perhaps the Department for Transport should now update their guidance on roundabouts in the Highway Code.
Their current illustrations bear no resemblance to these increasingly artistic variations which are now springing up. Roll Eyes
Their current illustrations bear no resemblance to these increasingly artistic variations which are now springing up. Roll Eyes
Better still - update their guidance to prohibit non-standard road markings. Surely the whole idea of standard road markings is for safety, so that all road users know what the rules are, they can be taught as part of teaching children pedestrian road safety and safe cycling and learner drivers to drive.
I do not have a problem in principle with Dutch-style "home zones" where motorised traffic has to cede priority to others in the right places, but there needs to be clear and universal road signage and marking.
| Re: Vibrant or dangerous? Colourful roundabout redesign divides village in Berkshire Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 09:04, 5th February 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Perhaps the Department for Transport should now update their guidance on roundabouts in the Highway Code.
Their current illustrations bear no resemblance to these increasingly artistic variations which are now springing up.

| Re: Vibrant or dangerous? Colourful roundabout redesign divides village in Berkshire Posted by Marlburian at 05:54, 5th February 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() |
| Re: Vibrant or dangerous? Colourful roundabout redesign divides village in Berkshire Posted by Red Squirrel at 08:12, 4th February 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() |
To be fair, the crossing by Castle Park in Bristol is signal-controlled - the area that’s been painted would normally just be plain highway - so it’s not particularly confusing.
| Re: Vibrant or dangerous? Colourful roundabout redesign divides village in Berkshire Posted by grahame at 08:02, 4th February 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() |
There are (or have been) a number of other none-standard Zebra crossings around
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-47402269
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-bristol-57630842
and I recall a curved zebra crossing on a corner - I think in Funchal - sure I took a picture but can't find it.
| Re: Vibrant or dangerous? Colourful roundabout redesign divides village in Berkshire Posted by PrestburyRoad at 23:02, 3rd February 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() |
I think they should have used normal zebra crossing markings at all 5 positions, with the necessary approach signage. There seems no reason for drivers to give priority to pedestrians, so their safety has been seriously reduced.
This was exactly the problem that occurred on the internal roads on the site at which I worked. The architect had the idea that it would look more elegant to denote the pedestrian crossings by a shallow beige raised area across the road, rather than the usual black and white stripes. The staff expected that only black and white stripes would mean a pedestrian crossing, because that was the marking they saw everywhere else. Nobody died but there were many near misses. Eventually management overruled the architect's idea and painted the stripes, and all was well - everybody then knew exactly what was meant and who had priority.
| Re: Vibrant or dangerous? Colourful roundabout redesign divides village in Berkshire Posted by paul7575 at 18:39, 3rd February 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() |
I think they should have used normal zebra crossing markings at all 5 positions, with the necessary approach signage. There seems no reason for drivers to give priority to pedestrians, so their safety has been seriously reduced.
| Re: Vibrant or dangerous? Colourful roundabout redesign divides village in Berkshire Posted by stuving at 11:35, 3rd February 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() |
I have not paid a lot of attention to this, though it has appeared on the front page of the local papers often enough (notably last September with the headline "crossroads in national spotlight"). The council have put quite a lot about it on their web site, and not just in response to all this comment. From the start, they seem to have wanted to show they were not just roads managers. (Note this all goes back long before the Lib Dems took over the council in 2022).
The junction was a double mini-roundabout, and they never work very well because drivers have to attend to too many directions at once. With a lot of pedestrians as well, it has been seen as a problem for a long time. But development means more houses, more traffic, and some s106 money to throw at the problem.
The 25 March 2015 planning committee report states:
‘The main constraint along Nine Mile Ride is California Crossroads where currently there are intermittent peak hour delays, and increased delays would be expected. Mitigation alternatives have been examined and a Working Group has been set up with representatives from the local community, and this had its first meeting in late February. At the meeting, options were discussed, and it was agreed that the preferred approach would be a scheme that retained a similar level of highway capacity, and that the priority would be to deliver an environmental improvement in the centre of Finchampstead. An environmental improvement would facilitate the multi-modal use of the junction and improve its operation. Over the coming months a scheme will evolve based on these principles to be funded by the developers, and it will be subject to wider engagement.’
‘The main constraint along Nine Mile Ride is California Crossroads where currently there are intermittent peak hour delays, and increased delays would be expected. Mitigation alternatives have been examined and a Working Group has been set up with representatives from the local community, and this had its first meeting in late February. At the meeting, options were discussed, and it was agreed that the preferred approach would be a scheme that retained a similar level of highway capacity, and that the priority would be to deliver an environmental improvement in the centre of Finchampstead. An environmental improvement would facilitate the multi-modal use of the junction and improve its operation. Over the coming months a scheme will evolve based on these principles to be funded by the developers, and it will be subject to wider engagement.’
From then on the language and logic have got more woolly. My objection to it is that for drivers who are not locals and come across it while at least half lost, having to cope with such an unfamiliar style of junction is an extra risk. Successful cooperation between drivers an pedestrians requires them to all know what's going on, and who is going to go where. I'm not convinced by the more recent idea that forcing drivers to work things out with no guidelines is safer in a case like this
| Re: Vibrant or dangerous? Colourful roundabout redesign divides village in Berkshire Posted by CyclingSid at 11:03, 3rd February 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() |
A highway engineers take on it https://bsky.app/profile/rantyhighwayman.bsky.social/post/3lh74oakzkk25
| Re: Vibrant or dangerous? Colourful roundabout redesign divides village in Berkshire Posted by Bob_Blakey at 10:11, 3rd February 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Statement Of The Bleedin' Obvious alert.
A Google Maps Street View image from May 2023 shows this location as having a perfectly functional mini-roundabout with pedestrian refuges arrangement. So to what extent are the residents of Finchampstead on the hook for whatever this completely unnecessary upgrade cost and which (council?) imbeciles signed this of as being in any way appropriate?
| Re: Vibrant or dangerous? Colourful roundabout redesign divides village in Berkshire Posted by CyclingSid at 08:43, 3rd February 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() |
It took the council's contractors a long time to do it. It has taken the media quite a long time to cotton on to it. Not sure it helps any road users, more than its previous incarnation.
Probably the only way you would get California cross (roads) and Nine Mile Ride into the national media. Not sure how you could "spruce up" the rest of the area.
| Re: Vibrant or dangerous? Colourful roundabout redesign divides village in Berkshire Posted by grahame at 22:41, 2nd February 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() |
It *is* posted in the right place - "The West but not the West's trains" ... but .. it came up for me at https://www.firstgreatwestern.info/recent.html as I am testing stuff in the mobile friendly pages, and it flagged up to me that I haven't yet added the board name into that format. Something added onto my list.
I've already been on that page adding today to add a list of who has liked pages and a like button (grotty format / operation as yet) and more to do on there, but too tired tonight!
| Re: Vibrant or dangerous? Colourful roundabout redesign divides village in Berkshire Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 22:16, 2nd February 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() |
I posted on our well-established board, at https://www.firstgreatwestern.info/coffeeshop/index.php?board=31.0 , AMLAG, where 2212 posts in
295 topics have previously been posted.
I'm sorry if I seem a little terse.
Chris.

| Re: Vibrant or dangerous? Colourful roundabout redesign divides village in Berkshire Posted by AMLAG at 22:09, 2nd February 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() |
What please is the relevance of this subject with regards to Rail / GWR services/ this rail passengers discussion and rail information site ?
| Vibrant or dangerous? Colourful roundabout redesign divides village in Berkshire Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 21:23, 2nd February 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() |
From the BBC:

Horrendous and dangerous - or fresh and vibrant?
The California Cross junction in Finchampstead, Berkshire, has been described as both.
The product of a broader £5.5m seven-month revamp, the double roundabout and five crossings with distinctive leaf designs has divided opinion amongst locals, with 1,400 signing a petition calling for it to be gone.
Residents have raised concerns about the cost of the work, as well as the safety of a junction that doesn't exactly follow convention.
But how dangerous is it?
The junction consists of two roundabouts, each with three exits. Each exit has a crossing for pedestrians.
But instead of a zebra crossing with black and white stripes, there is a distinctive white leaf design - and instead of a roundabout with a standard central island, there's an array of rainbow leaves painted on the road.
The changes were made as part of a wider project for the area, which also included drainage works.
(article continues)
| Road marking errors, causing confusion and mirth - merged posts Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 17:27, 5th December 2024 | ![]() ![]() ![]() |
From the BBC:

Newly-repainted road markings reading "Ceep Klear" near a school have caused dismay among residents.
The misspelling appeared on a re-patched section of Watermoor Road in Cirencester, Gloucestershire.
Pictures of the sign, near Paternoster School, attracted hundreds of comments on social media, with locals complaining the error was part of a wider problem with the town's roads.
Paul Skuse, who runs a Cirencester group on Facebook, posted: "Another top quality repair carried out."
One group member said: "Must be a joke. No one can be that bad at spelling!!"
Another complained that poor repairs were making the town's roads and pavements dangerous for push chairs and wheelchair users.
One man remarked: "(The) 'repair' won't last long enough for anyone else to notice."
Joe Harris, the Liberal Democrat leader of Cotswold District Council, said the mistake was proof "the management of the roads in this county simply isn't good enough". In a video posted on X he blamed Gloucestershire County Council, run by the Conservatives, for failing to ensure its contractor kept the roads in good condition.
"We don't have a common sense approach to fixing the roads - quite often you see a pothole filled in and one right next to it is just left totally unattended," he said. "I think that's totally bonkers."
The BBC has approached the county council for comment.














