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Re: Ivybridge: Rail Users Group, services and cancellations (merged topics)
 
Re: Ivybridge Station - services, facilities, incidents and events (merged topics, specific to Ivybr
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 20:51, 9th May 2026
 
... (with apologies for linking to the awful Herald website)

I don't even try to do that any more. 

CfN. 

Re: Fire at Ivybridge Station - 02 Jun 20
Posted by Pb_devon at 08:39, 3rd June 2020
 
Line reopened before midnight.

https://www.plymouthherald.co.uk/news/plymouth-news/live-updates-firefighters-tackle-blaze-4186995

(with apologies for linking to the awful Herald website)

Fire at Ivybridge Station - 02 Jun 20
Posted by bobm at 22:24, 2nd June 2020
 
https://www.devonlive.com/news/devon-news/live-updates-firefighters-tackle-blaze-4186995

Firefighters are currently at Ivybridge railway station where a large blaze has broken out by one of the platforms.

Devon and Somerset Fire and Rescue Service has confirmed that two crews are at the station and are attempting to extinguish the flames.

Calls were received about the incident at 9.05pm and all trains have been stopped from travelling through the site.

Re: Six hunting hounds killed by train near Ivybridge, Devon - 22 November 2014
Posted by chrisr_75 at 23:17, 9th January 2015
 
I'm almost speechless at the level of utter ignorance displayed by this second incident. I do hope these people are duly prosecuted for dangerous driving (riding a horse the wrong way down a dual carriageway, seriously???!!). So very lucky that this didn't result in a serious or fatal accident. Idiots.

Re: Six hunting hounds killed by train near Ivybridge, Devon - 22 November 2014
Posted by ellendune at 22:59, 9th January 2015
 
Some selected alternative definitions from Urban Dictionary

Muppet
A person who is ignorant and generally has no idea about anything.

Muppet
a person who defies explanation with regard to common sense and logic, exhubing an air of confidence that is mutually exclusive to that of their accomplishments or ability

Muppet
Originally coined in the police and then spread through emergency services and armed forces before gaining popularity with the general population.

It stands for Most Useless Person Possible Except Trainee

Re: Six hunting hounds killed by train near Ivybridge, Devon - 22 November 2014
Posted by trainer at 22:44, 9th January 2015
 
Muppets.

I strongly disagree.  The Muppets are delightfully whimsical and entertaining. The opposite of what the picture displays. 

Re: Six hunting hounds killed by train near Ivybridge, Devon - 22 November 2014
Posted by JayMac at 21:19, 9th January 2015
 
Another instance of the unspeakable in full pursuit of the uneatable (yes, the drag cloth is inedible!) causing chaos for those travelling. This time bringing a busy dual carriageway to a standstill. One hound apparently injured.

From the Shropshire Star:

Hunt takes a bizarre turn onto busy Shropshire road



Traffic on the A5 in Shropshire was forced to slow down as two men rode their horses either side of the road trying to retrieve hounds from the road. At least one of the dogs appeared to be injured and was taken away.

The unusual sight was captured on camera by one driver, who was travelling from Wrexham at the time and pulled into a layby because he was worried about safety.

It is not known which of Shropshire^s hunts were involved in the incident, which happened just near Shrewsbury close to one of the roundabouts on the town^s bypass at about 3.30pm on Wednesday.

He said: ^I was surprised to find one rider in red hunting clothing was riding south along the northbound verge or nearside lane, while another rider was on the southbound lane among the traffic. It was certainly an unusual sight.

^At least one, possibly two hounds were on the road. The drivers of several cars and lorries had to brake but as far as I am aware no accidents occurred.

^It must have been quite hairy for drivers particularly of the lorries, coming off the junction and encountering the horses.

^It could have been a much more serious incident had one of the horses been spooked by the vehicles.^

Another driver, Peter Leigh, also saw the huntsmen on the carriageway. His wife, Carol, said he also saw somebody retrieving dogs from the carriageway.

Also reported in The Telegraph where it was said that the police will not be prosecuting. Probably just some minor forfeit to be carried out by the Hunt Master in the local Masonic Lodge...

Muppets.



Note: The preceding (aside from quoted article) is my personal comment and opinion. 

Re: Six hunting hounds killed by train near Ivybridge, Devon - 22 November 2014
Posted by TaplowGreen at 09:43, 26th November 2014
 
A political gesture of a parliament democratically elected by the people. One that hasn't been, or stands any chance of being, overturned by the current parliament.

I don't deny that foxes are problematical for poultry and sheep farmers. But to control them by setting a pack of hounds on them led by a braying mob of hunters is barbaric, cruel, unnecessary and frankly, inefficient. When legal to hunt with hounds a hunt would typically kill one fox a fortnight and only during their hunting season. It was done for sport and no other reason. The economic case for hunts is vastly overstated as well.

I have family who farm in Somerset and they have no truck whatsoever with hunts. They use far more efficient ways of dealing with foxes. With a recognition of the fox's role in keeping the rabbit population in check.

One simple method of keeping foxes out of a hen house is a mirror. Doesn't bother the hens, but Mr Fox will turn tail at sight of 'another' fox. Sonic repellents used for when hens are outside. Nose height electric fencing around fields. Feeding them can also help prevent attacks on livestock. Last resorts of trapping and shooting.

Surveys of sheep farmers have shown that lamb predation by foxes is seen as a relatively minor problem.

Foxes afraid of mirrors? They must make them soft in Somerset these days, must be all that dodgy cider! Any self respecting proper Westcountry (ie Devon or Cornwall) fox would put down his pasty and pint of Doom Bar and admire his reflection until the chickens emerged! 

Re: Six hunting hounds killed by train near Ivybridge, Devon - 22 November 2014
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 23:29, 25th November 2014
 
As the BBC have updated the previous stock image in their news article which started this topic, I have taken the opportunity to update my original post similarly.

Re: Six hunting hounds killed by train near Ivybridge, Devon - 22 November 2014
Posted by chrisr_75 at 20:31, 25th November 2014
 
A political gesture of a parliament democratically elected by the people. One that hasn't been, or stands any chance of being, overturned by the current parliament.

I don't deny that foxes are problematical for poultry and sheep farmers. But to control them by setting a pack of hounds on them led by a braying mob of hunters is barbaric, cruel, unnecessary and frankly, inefficient. When legal to hunt with hounds a hunt would typically kill one fox a fortnight and only during their hunting season. It was done for sport and no other reason. The economic case for hunts is vastly overstated as well.

I have family who farm in Somerset and they have no truck whatsoever with hunts. They use far more efficient ways of dealing with foxes. With a recognition of the fox's role in keeping the rabbit population in check.

One simple method of keeping foxes out of a hen house is a mirror. Doesn't bother the hens, but Mr Fox will turn tail at sight of 'another' fox. Sonic repellents used for when hens are outside. Nose height electric fencing around fields. Feeding them can also help prevent attacks on livestock. Last resorts of trapping and shooting.

Surveys of sheep farmers have shown that lamb predation by foxes is seen as a relatively minor problem.

Agree 100% with this. In North-West Wales (which most of you will recognise as a heartland of lamb and wool production) my farming neighbours hunt with a couple of dogs for flushing and a couple of local guys with shotguns and/or rifles. This method is efficient (and remains legal), is as humane as it can be and doesn't involve masses of dogs and horses trampling the land, destroying hedgerows and dry stone walls, worrying livestock and so on. Hunting with a pack of dogs & horses generally results in the weakest 'prey' being killed, thus improving the gene pool.

Interestingly, I know one farmer who farms a very very well known beauty spot in N.Wales, who usually has a 'pet' fox on his sheep farm, as having a fox present (that doesn't take lambs) keeps other foxes away who might otherwise take lambs.

The hunt with horses and a pack of dogs is so utterly antiquated, inefficient and ridiculous that it would be simply laughable were it not so deeply unpleasant. Anyone who supports this is demonstrating the deepest ignorance of the countryside and relatively simple science.

Re: Six hunting hounds killed by train near Ivybridge, Devon - 22 November 2014
Posted by JayMac at 19:31, 25th November 2014
 
A political gesture of a parliament democratically elected by the people. One that hasn't been, or stands any chance of being, overturned by the current parliament.

I don't deny that foxes are problematical for poultry and sheep farmers. But to control them by setting a pack of hounds on them led by a braying mob of hunters is barbaric, cruel, unnecessary and frankly, inefficient. When legal to hunt with hounds a hunt would typically kill one fox a fortnight and only during their hunting season. It was done for sport and no other reason. The economic case for hunts is vastly overstated as well.

I have family who farm in Somerset and they have no truck whatsoever with hunts. They use far more efficient ways of dealing with foxes. With a recognition of the fox's role in keeping the rabbit population in check.

One simple method of keeping foxes out of a hen house is a mirror. Doesn't bother the hens, but Mr Fox will turn tail at sight of 'another' fox. Sonic repellents used for when hens are outside. Nose height electric fencing around fields. Feeding them can also help prevent attacks on livestock. Last resorts of trapping and shooting.

Surveys of sheep farmers have shown that lamb predation by foxes is seen as a relatively minor problem.

Re: Six hunting hounds killed by train near Ivybridge, Devon - 22 November 2014
Posted by TaplowGreen at 18:42, 25th November 2014
 
Sympathy only for the dogs themselves and the driver. Absolutely none for the hunt. Zero reason for a 'trail' to be anywhere near a railway line. Had they not been near then the hounds would not have (as I suspect) picked up an alternative scent.

Any bills for delay or damage should be sent to the Dartmoor Hunt.

Sorry BNM, but the Dartmoor Hunt cannot compensate for consequential losses 

A lot of assumptions being made on both sides - but would your next step be to present Farmers whose livestock stray onto the railway line with huge bills? Or (God forbid) the parents of young children who stray too near the line while playing?

I must declare an interest in that I have family who farm in Cornwall and anyone with that background have no truck with foxes whatsoever - if you've seen the carnage they cause in a henhouse or amongst a field of pregnant ewes you'd have little sympathy with them - they are vermin and only attract sympathy as they are perceived as looking pretty......the Hunt provides employment for thousands of rural people and was only banned as a political gesture by that famous class warrior Blair, pandering to what he thought was a vote winning class issue.................Tally Ho! 

Re: Six hunting hounds killed by train near Ivybridge, Devon - 22 November 2014
Posted by chrisr_75 at 17:55, 25th November 2014
 
Judging by how completely out of control a pack of fox hounds were that (unsuccessfully) chased a fox through my and my neighbours gardens recently, I'm surprised this type of thing doesn't happen more frequently.

He said: "Surely if the hunt were following a trail, no-one in their right mind would have laid the scent next to a busy line?"

Hmmm, then what must they have been following then, I wonder??

Foxhounds are extremely intelligent and well disciplined animals however you cannot ever fully "train out" natural instincts (hence the excursion through your garden!) - if they pick up the scent of a fox they will go after it........in any case a tragic accident and I would imagine the driver was as upset as the Hunt......sympathy to all concerned.

The member of the hunt I gave some friendly 'advice' to admitted himself that "they're not supposed to do that". It is illegal to hunt any animal with a pack of dogs, quite straightforward to me, no ifs, no buts. If any dogs (hunt or otherwise) natural instincts cannot be controlled, they should not be allowed out loose. My googling suggests there is an increasing toll of 'accidental' deaths of foxes, pets and livestock, along with damage to property caused by these idiots - this isn't the first time a hunt has been involved in an incident with a train and probably won't be the last...

Re: Six hunting hounds killed by train near Ivybridge, Devon - 22 November 2014
Posted by Andy at 17:41, 25th November 2014
 
Sympathy only for the dogs themselves and the driver. Absolutely none for the hunt. Zero reason for a 'trail' to be anywhere near a railway line. Had they not been near then the hounds would not have (as I suspect) picked up an alternative scent.

Any bills for delay or damage should be sent to the Dartmoor Hunt.

Hear hear.

Re: Six hunting hounds killed by train near Ivybridge, Devon - 22 November 2014
Posted by JayMac at 17:05, 25th November 2014
 
Sympathy only for the dogs themselves and the driver. Absolutely none for the hunt. Zero reason for a 'trail' to be anywhere near a railway line. Had they not been near then the hounds would not have (as I suspect) picked up an alternative scent.

Any bills for delay or damage should be sent to the Dartmoor Hunt.

Re: Six hunting hounds killed by train near Ivybridge, Devon - 22 November 2014
Posted by TaplowGreen at 12:16, 25th November 2014
 
Judging by how completely out of control a pack of fox hounds were that (unsuccessfully) chased a fox through my and my neighbours gardens recently, I'm surprised this type of thing doesn't happen more frequently.

He said: "Surely if the hunt were following a trail, no-one in their right mind would have laid the scent next to a busy line?"

Hmmm, then what must they have been following then, I wonder??

Foxhounds are extremely intelligent and well disciplined animals however you cannot ever fully "train out" natural instincts (hence the excursion through your garden!) - if they pick up the scent of a fox they will go after it........in any case a tragic accident and I would imagine the driver was as upset as the Hunt......sympathy to all concerned.

Re: Six hunting hounds killed by train near Ivybridge, Devon - 22 November 2014
Posted by chrisr_75 at 11:43, 25th November 2014
 
Judging by how completely out of control a pack of fox hounds were that (unsuccessfully) chased a fox through my and my neighbours gardens recently, I'm surprised this type of thing doesn't happen more frequently.

He said: "Surely if the hunt were following a trail, no-one in their right mind would have laid the scent next to a busy line?"

Hmmm, then what must they have been following then, I wonder??

Six hunting hounds killed by train near Ivybridge, Devon - 22 November 2014
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 11:15, 25th November 2014
 
From the BBC:

Six hunting hounds killed by train near Ivybridge, Devon


Six hunting hounds were killed by a train near Ivybridge

Six hunting hounds were hit and killed by a train when they ran onto tracks in the Devon countryside.

A train driver with Network Rail reported hitting the dogs near Ivybridge on Saturday.

Organisers of the Dartmoor Hunt, which owned the dogs, said it was a "very distressing and regrettable" incident.

Tom Lyle, joint master, said: "Nothing like this has ever happened to the hunt before and it was very upsetting to all involved."

Network Rail confirmed one of its drivers reported hitting the dogs at around 12:00 GMT.

The spokesman said: "We were contacted by the police to alert us that a pack of hunting hounds were unaccompanied on the line. We then received a call from a train driver to say that he had gone through the area and had noticed the pack of hounds. He reported that his train had struck six of them, who died as a result of their injuries."

Joe Duckworth, chief executive of the League Against Cruel Sports, called for the Dartmoor Hunt to be "held accountable" for what happened. He said: "Surely if the hunt were following a trail, no-one in their right mind would have laid the scent next to a busy line?"

Re: Man killed on railway line near Ivybridge - 24 April 2012
Posted by bobm at 13:21, 25th April 2012
 
To be fair I diid qualify my opening remarks with that thought.  However if organisations are going to report on it they might as well try to get the basic (and easily checkable) facts right.

Re: Man killed on railway line near Ivybridge - 24 April 2012
Posted by vacmanfan at 13:14, 25th April 2012
 
The main issue is that somebody unfortunately died, not what colour the train is....

Re: Man killed on railway line near Ivybridge - 24 April 2012
Posted by bobm at 08:31, 25th April 2012
 
Speaking as a journalist I partly agree with you Grahame but I was always told to be "right not first" so in cases like this when given which train was allegedly involved you take a look at the timetable and check.  After all I wouldn't want FGW phoning me to complain.  The biggest problem is the lack of local knowledge.  With local papers often closing outlying offices and concentrating on a central point many journalists don't know the places they are covering as well as they did.  TV and Radio have done the same.

Re: Man killed on railway line near Ivybridge - 24 April 2012
Posted by grahame at 06:36, 25th April 2012
 
I'm not actually sure that the journalists got it wrong - they make it clear their reporting what the BTP told them, and they may have accurately reported that source which - in the first hours after the incident - is likely to be sketchy and still receiving information from the incident site.  Both dealing with the aftermath and answering the reporters as best they can.   We often forget, I think, just how much might have been happening at the time, and that the police, journalists, other emergency services are not as knowledgable about rail issues as some of our members here.  I'm grateful for the reports and would rather hear about them now that wait until after the inquest to be told anything at all in the interest of 100% accuracy.

Re: Man killed on railway line near Ivybridge - 24 April 2012
Posted by The SprinterMeister at 00:17, 25th April 2012
 
Never knew FGW went to Leeds? haha
It's a new open access route. Journalists are never wrong....
 

Re: Man killed on railway line near Ivybridge - 24 April 2012
Posted by bobm at 23:47, 24th April 2012
 
With due respect to those involved but what an awful piece of journalism. If you cannot even get basic details like the operator of the train right what hope is there that the rest is correct?

Re: Man killed on railway line near Ivybridge - 24 April 2012
Posted by LiskeardRich at 23:25, 24th April 2012
 
Never knew FGW went to Leeds? haha

And xc spokesman gave a statement for fgw...condolences to the victim and all involved

Re: Man killed on railway line near Ivybridge - 24 April 2012
Posted by vacman at 23:07, 24th April 2012
 
Never knew FGW went to Leeds? haha

Re: Man killed on railway line near Ivybridge - 24 April 2012
Posted by devon_metro at 23:07, 24th April 2012
 
Apparently a young lad, shame.


Man killed on railway line near Ivybridge - 24 April 2012
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 22:23, 24th April 2012
 
From thisisdevon:

A man has been killed after being in collision with a passenger train near Ivybridge.

Police closed a section of railway track running alongside Exeter Road on the B3213 at around 5.48pm today.

British Transport Police, officers from Devon and Cornwall police, together with representatives of Network Rail attended the scene.

A black private ambulance was also at parked on Davids Lane.

British Transport Police confirmed the 17:23 First Great Western train service from Plymouth to Leeds was involved in the incident.

It is believed the man^s body was found below a single-vehicle road bridge at the top of Davids Lane.

A spokesperson for the British Transport Police said: ^We attended the scene close to Ivybridge Railway Station after reports a man had been hit by a train at 5:40pm.

Paramedics from South Western Ambulance Service also attended but the man was pronounced dead at the scene.

The incident is being treated as non-suspicious.^

Ivybridge Railway Station was closed to trains and the entrance to Davids Lane was coned off by police until 7.10pm.

The railway main line to and from Plymouth and Cornwall was affected.

A spokeswoman for Cross Country said: ^The 18:59 from Ivybridge to Plymouth was disrupted and alternative transport was offered.^

Transport Police said a file is being prepared for the coroner.

Re: Ivybridge: Rail Users Group, services and cancellations (merged topics)
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 20:26, 8th February 2012
 
From thisisplymouth:

Body found on railway line was missing Plymouth man Keith Thompson

A body found on railway lines near Ivybridge was that of missing Plymouth man Keith Thompson, it has been revealed.

Plymouth coroner^s office and police confirmed the remains found on December 10 close to the line at Langham Levels near Ivybridge was than of the 56-year-old St Budeaux man. The coroner^s office said the initial cause of death has been given as ^multiple injuries^.

Mr Thompson was last seen 4pm on Sunday November 13 when he was captured on CCTV leaving Newton Abbot railway station.

Police launched an intensive hunt for the Vi-Spring production operative across Plymouth and surrounding areas, even calling upon the aid of the specialist Dartmoor Search and Rescue team.

However, the search was called off following the discovery of the body on the line.

The body was first seen by a police helicopter crew flying over the town. Local officers and British Transport Police were both called upon to investigate.

The Herald understands rail police employed DNA testing to determine the identity of the body but to no avail due to the degradation of the remains.

Further tests, including checks against dental records, were also carried out to confirm the deceased^s identity.

A British Transport Police (BTP) spokesman said: ^We can confirm that the man whose body was discovered close to the line at Langham Levels, near Ivybridge in Devon, on December 10 has been formally identified as Keith Thompson, aged 56 of Higher St Budeaux, Plymouth.

^Mr Thompson had been reported to police as a missing person by his family on 13 November 2011. Although currently being treated as unexplained, there do not appear to be any suspicious circumstances surrounding Mr Thompson^s death. BTP officers will be preparing a file for the Coroner.^

The coroner^s office said the inquest had been opened and adjourned.

Re: Ivybridge: Rail Users Group, services and cancellations (merged topics)
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 20:37, 12th December 2011
 
From the Plymouth Herald:

Police suspend hunt for man after body found near railway line

The body of a man has been discovered near a railway line, British Transport Police have confirmed.

It is not yet known if the body is that of Plymouth man Keith Thompson, who vanished four weeks ago.

​But following the discovery on Saturday, Devon and Cornwall Police officers yesterday postponed a planned operation as part of their enquiries into the 56-year-old's disappearance.

"Officers are now working to determine the identity of the deceased and the circumstances surrounding the death, which is currently being treated as unexplained," said a spokesperson for British Transport Police (BTP) who are leading the investigation.

Devon and Cornwall Police were initially called to the scene at Langham Levels, Ivybridge, on Saturday afternoon, along with forensics officers. At about 4.10pm the Force notified BTP about the find.

The body was first seen by a police helicopter crew flying over the town.

"BTP officers attended, alongside colleagues from Devon and Cornwall Police and discovered a body, believed to be that of a man, on the embankment at Langham Levels," said the spokesperson.

As The Herald reported on Saturday, officers were yesterday due to visit train stations between Truro and Torquay armed with missing person posters in the hope of jogging the memories of rail passengers who may have seen missing city man Keith.

The operation is part of continued efforts to search for the Vi-Spring production operative, whose last confirmed sighting was on Sunday November 13 as he headed to the city-bound platform at Newton Abbot railway station.

He is described as white, of medium build and around 5ft 8ins tall with short grey hair and glasses.

Keith was last seen wearing a red and black Adidas jacket and a pink or faded red T-shirt.

Police believe he may also have been carrying a dark blue Tesco bag for life and a green Co-operative carrier bag.

Anyone with information about his whereabouts is asked to call the police on 101 quoting log number 294 of November 18.

And BTP are appealing for people with details about Saturday's discovery to contact them on 0800 40 50 40.

Re: Ivybridge: Rail Users Group, services and cancellations (merged topics)
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 20:46, 11th December 2011
 
From the BBC:

The body of a man has been found by a police helicopter crew flying over a town in Devon.

It was discovered by officers on board the Devon and Cornwall Police helicopter while it was over Ivybridge.

Police said the body was seen from the Exeter-based aircraft while it was over the Langham Levels area of the town at about 16:00 GMT on Saturday.

British Transport Police are investigating the case, as the man's body was found close to a railway line.

Re: Train guard punched for asking man to stop smoking (Plymouth, 15/01/2010)
Posted by IndustryInsider at 15:38, 20th January 2010
 
Sadly with no CCTV installed on HST sets there'll be no footage of this assault. Which, along with internal information displays, is the most disappointing missing element of the recent refresh programme.

Train guard punched for asking man to stop smoking (Plymouth, 15/01/2010)
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 14:18, 20th January 2010
 
From the BBC:

A train guard was punched to the floor after asking a passenger to put out a cigarette he was smoking.
The incident happened between Ivybridge and Plymouth on the 1636 First Great Western service from London Paddington to Plymouth on Friday evening.
The guard, who was punched twice on the head, was not seriously hurt, but has suffered headaches since the attack.
The attacker is described as a white man in his 20s, wearing dark-coloured jeans and a dark top.
British Transport Police have appealed to anyone who witnessed the assault just after 2030 GMT.
The guard had been walking through the train when he saw a man leaning out of the window smoking in the vestibule area between two of the coaches.
He asked the man to stop smoking, but as he walked away, he was assaulted from behind.
Pc Amanda Showler said: "Members of railway staff should be able to carry out their duties without fear of attack or intimidation. We are appealing to anyone who witnessed the assault or saw anything suspicious on board the train to come forward."

Re: Ivybridge: Rail Users Group, services and cancellations (merged topics)
Posted by vacman at 22:48, 26th November 2009
 
a body was found as is being treated as suspicious, rumour is that body parts were found in a plastic bin bag.

Re: Ivybridge: Rail Users Group, services and cancellations (merged topics)
Posted by John R at 18:18, 26th November 2009
 
Seemed to cause chaos this morning with knock on effects felt all over the network.

At one point a Swansea Paddington train was showing as being diverted via Temple Meads to pick up pax stranded by the cancellation of the 8am, though I'm not sure this happened. The 8.30am and 9am were cancelled as well I'm informed, so one of my colleagues took 2 1/2 hours to get from Yatton to Swindon.   

Re: Ivybridge: Rail Users Group, services and cancellations (merged topics)
Posted by RailCornwall at 18:13, 26th November 2009
 
Just shows what a chronic shortage of servicable rolling stock there is in the UK. (observation not a complaint)

Re: Ivybridge: Rail Users Group, services and cancellations (merged topics)
Posted by The SprinterMeister at 17:45, 26th November 2009
 
According to BBC Radio Devon it happened at Ivybridge.

According to BBC Radio Devon it happened at Ivybridge.

The circumstances of the incident meant that it took a very long time before the line was fully re-opened in both directions. As the HST's run over a wide range of routes during the days work it was sadly inevitable that a lot of disruption to long distance FGW services occurred.

Re: Ivybridge: Rail Users Group, services and cancellations (merged topics)
Posted by devon_metro at 16:45, 26th November 2009
 
Looks pretty bad. Thoughts with the Cross Country driver and anybody else involved.

Re: Ivybridge: Rail Users Group, services and cancellations (merged topics)
Posted by Phil at 15:48, 26th November 2009
 
I saw an empty HST rolling through Reading towards Paddington (running wrong-way on the track in the central reservation which stone trains usually use) around 2pm today. It had the Plymouth-Paddington stickers on the windows so I'd imagine it would have been one of the incorrectly placed trains heading back to a depot somewhere.

Re: Ivybridge: Rail Users Group, services and cancellations (merged topics)
Posted by James Vertigan at 12:53, 26th November 2009
 
According to BBC Radio Devon it happened at Ivybridge.

Re: Ivybridge: Rail Users Group, services and cancellations (merged topics)
Posted by old original at 12:52, 26th November 2009
 
It happened at about 05.00 this morning so nothing could leave Cornwall/Plymouth/Laira eastbound until about 09.30 hence a shortage of sets elsewhere

Re: Ivybridge: Rail Users Group, services and cancellations (merged topics)
Posted by ChrisB at 12:14, 26th November 2009
 
Indeed, this fatality has blocked the entire Plymouth HST stock at Plymouth, causing shortages across HST services. Cutting the Cardiff's releases a number of HSTs for use elsewhere.

Re: Ivybridge: Rail Users Group, services and cancellations (merged topics)
Posted by matt473 at 11:20, 26th November 2009
 
Probably this has led to a lot of rolling stock being displaced meaning there are not enough hst's in London to fulfill all requirements so certain services have to be cut back. I think they are probably making the best of a bad situation and canelling to the Cardiff-Paddington to reduce affects elsehwere across the networkas Cardiff can still be served by thehourly Swansea service

Re: Ivybridge: Rail Users Group, services and cancellations (merged topics)
Posted by Mookiemoo at 10:55, 26th November 2009
 
Is causing the cardiff to paddington services to be cancelled?

Re: Ivybridge: Rail Users Group, services and cancellations (merged topics)
Posted by plymothian at 10:16, 26th November 2009
 
http://www.thisisplymouth.co.uk/news/Body-railway-line/article-1551929-detail/article.html

Re: Ivybridge #3
Posted by thetrout at 19:59, 2nd April 2009
 
I've just spotted that error as well! Sorry, English Grammar was never my strong point at school

Re: Ivybridge #3
Posted by John R at 18:23, 2nd April 2009
 
D_M was referring to the mistake in your email I alluded to.

I think Weston is a reasonable abbreviation given the space.     

Re: Ivybridge #3
Posted by thetrout at 23:11, 1st April 2009
 
Ah, the dreaded apostrophe 

Not Quite

I was thinking more that Weston Super Mare is written as Weston

Whilst yes it is the shortened name for the town. If you asked the national rail enquires automated service, Weston, would indeed be rejected or questioned as to which Weston (Weston-Super-Mare or Weston Milton)

Re: Ivybridge #3
Posted by Super Guard at 23:28, 31st March 2009
 
Paging Terminal Junkie... 

Re: Ivybridge #3
Posted by devon_metro at 22:14, 31st March 2009
 
Ah, the dreaded apostrophe 

Re: Ivybridge #3
Posted by John R at 21:54, 31st March 2009
 
No, although instead of "mid May" you would have thought they could have given the date. And instead of "may" result in significantly longer journey times, "will" would seem more correct.

By the way, be careful if it's a grammatical error, as there is one in your mail preceding this!

Re: Ivybridge #3
Posted by thetrout at 21:33, 31st March 2009
 
Can anyone else spot the other mistake in Chris's Photo?

Re: Ivybridge #3
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 21:18, 31st March 2009
 
As did the recently posted signs at N&B advising passengers about rail replacement bus services, but referring to Blackwell.

I know we're straying somewhat from the original topic, but just to illustrate this nonsense:


Re: Ivybridge #3
Posted by willc at 23:32, 30th March 2009
 
It's not that long ago that a sign appeared at the entrance to Moreton-in-Marsh station which welcomed you to Moreton-in-the-Marsh, which some of the Bristol conductors working Hereford services are also prone to calling us. The name is thought to be a corruption of Moreton Henmarsh and certainly never featured a 'the'.

I think Apcoa were responsible for this one. After I got it ridiculed in the local papers, it was swiftly taken down, only to reappear with a strip of something firmly glued over 'the' and it's still there now.

Another one which annoys me is Evesham pronounced "Eve -er- sham."

What's wrong with a bit of Worcestershire dialect? At least they don't say Asum, another old variation, which would cause real problems. Asum apparently came from Asum Ales, which were brewed at one of the town's pubs.

Re: Ivybridge #3
Posted by John R at 17:46, 30th March 2009
 
Apparently there was overnight engineering in the area (Saturday night), and one of the road/rail tractor looking vehicles bought the gantry down.  A crane had to be sourced from South Wales to remove it.

I was lucky enough to miss it all, but from what i've heard with the rail replacement buses all busy in Bristol and Penzance areas and XC being as helpful as ever terminating everything at Bristol, it was not a good day to put it mildly.  (Unless you were a taxi driver of course - one hopes that NR will be picking up the taxi bill that ran into the thousands!)

And I hope NR will be able to recover the cost off the subcontractor (or more likely their insurers).

Another question is what has happened to whatever was on the gantry (usually signals)?

Re: Ivybridge #3
Posted by amiddl at 13:47, 30th March 2009
 
I had friend traveling down last night from Reading late on an Advance Purchase - was advised not to travel. Traveled today to Plymouth as all restrictions had been lifted for travel today on yesterdays tickets (even Advance Purchase which seemed valid on any train).

Re: Ivybridge #3
Posted by Btline at 13:33, 30th March 2009
 
It's not that long ago that a sign appeared at the entrance to Moreton-in-Marsh station which welcomed you to Moreton-in-the-Marsh, which some of the Bristol conductors working Hereford services are also prone to calling us. The name is thought to be a corruption of Moreton Henmarsh and certainly never featured a 'the'.

I think Apcoa were responsible for this one. After I got it ridiculed in the local papers, it was swiftly taken down, only to reappear with a strip of something firmly glued over 'the' and it's still there now.

Another one which annoys me is Evesham pronounced "Eve -er- sham."

Re: Ivybridge #3
Posted by Super Guard at 13:27, 30th March 2009
 
Apparently there was overnight engineering in the area (Saturday night), and one of the road/rail tractor looking vehicles bought the gantry down.  A crane had to be sourced from South Wales to remove it.

I was lucky enough to miss it all, but from what i've heard with the rail replacement buses all busy in Bristol and Penzance areas and XC being as helpful as ever terminating everything at Bristol, it was not a good day to put it mildly.  (Unless you were a taxi driver of course - one hopes that NR will be picking up the taxi bill that ran into the thousands!)

Re: Ivybridge #3
Posted by willc at 01:33, 30th March 2009
 
It's not that long ago that a sign appeared at the entrance to Moreton-in-Marsh station which welcomed you to Moreton-in-the-Marsh, which some of the Bristol conductors working Hereford services are also prone to calling us. The name is thought to be a corruption of Moreton Henmarsh and certainly never featured a 'the'.

I think Apcoa were responsible for this one. After I got it ridiculed in the local papers, it was swiftly taken down, only to reappear with a strip of something firmly glued over 'the' and it's still there now.

Re: Ivybridge #3
Posted by John R at 21:43, 29th March 2009
 
As did the recently posted signs at N&B advising passengers about rail replacement bus services, but referring to Blackwell.




Re: Ivybridge #3
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 20:24, 29th March 2009
 
Thanks, devon_metro - you're quite right, I just absent-mindedly typed the second 't' while I was referring to their post. 

It's rather like the 'London's Burning' influence, where HST TM's announce that their train will be calling at Nailsea and Blackwell ... 

Re: Ivybridge #3
Posted by devon_metro at 17:36, 29th March 2009
 
Oh, also. Its known as "Newton Abbot"

Swindon are just silly for calling it that 

Re: Ivybridge #3
Posted by devon_metro at 17:35, 29th March 2009
 
Signal gantry down on Dainton is the only information I have.

0 trains have ran from Plymouth towards Exeter today, meaning lots of HSTs stuck in the wrong place, including 2 XC HSTs.

Ivybridge #3
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 15:40, 29th March 2009
 
These emergency engineering works have been causing short workings and delays all day:

Update at 15:15
Due to emergency engineering work, we are currently unable to run any trains between Newton Abbott and Plymouth. A very limited bus service is in operation between Tiverton Parkway and Plymouth.
The line is unlikely to be opened until 18:00.

See http://www.firstgreatwestern.co.uk/LiveUpdateList.aspx

Re: Ivybridge: Rail Users Group, services and cancellations (merged topics)
Posted by vacman at 11:05, 8th November 2008
 
Thanks, vacman! 

So, would any HST services stopping there help with that passenger flow?
Not really, the majority of people seem to come from Bere Alston and Calstock.

Re: Ivybridge: Rail Users Group, services and cancellations (merged topics)
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 00:22, 8th November 2008
 
Thanks, vacman! 

So, would any HST services stopping there help with that passenger flow?

Re: Ivybridge: Rail Users Group, services and cancellations (merged topics)
Posted by vacman at 00:18, 8th November 2008
 
Oh dear, only 22 passengers per day last year at Keyham.
Distorted figures! Keyham can be quite busy due to the nearby college, however, most people who travel there buy a ticket through to Plymouth.

Re: Ivybridge: Rail Users Group, services and cancellations (merged topics)
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 00:14, 8th November 2008
 
Hmm.  Well, I never said HSTs should stop at Keyham - and vacman clearly thinks they should not!

However, if I may go back a few posts: yes, HSTs started stopping (sorry, but you know what I mean!) at smaller stations such as Worle, Weston Milton, Nailsea & Backwell and Keynsham, some time ago.  At Nailsea, it's actually a great service - I can travel straight through to Paddington!

However, because of the shorter platforms at these stations, we had all the nonsense while introducing SDO - now resolved, thankfully.

Nevertheless, I think it's a serious concern at stations like, for example, Keyham, if there is in fact any intention to have HSTs stop there.  Just because they can (with SDO) doesn't mean they should

Re: Ivybridge: Rail Users Group, services and cancellations (merged topics)
Posted by Btline at 23:10, 7th November 2008
 
Oh dear, only 22 passengers per day last year at Keyham.

Re: Ivybridge: Rail Users Group, services and cancellations (merged topics)
Posted by vacman at 19:20, 7th November 2008
 
Think its gets one, the 0705 Plymouth - Penzance
Nope, there are no booked stops for HST's at Keyham, there aren't even that many "mainline" units that stop there, the only trains that really serve Keyham and the other plymouth suburbans are the Gunnislake services.

Re: Ivybridge: Rail Users Group, services and cancellations (merged topics)
Posted by devon_metro at 18:08, 7th November 2008
 
Think its gets one, the 0705 Plymouth - Penzance

Re: Ivybridge: Rail Users Group, services and cancellations (merged topics)
Posted by DevonTrains2008 at 14:27, 7th November 2008
 
It says on Wikipedia Keyham already has very few FGW HST's stopping there

Re: Ivybridge: Rail Users Group, services and cancellations (merged topics)
Posted by DevonTrains2008 at 14:24, 7th November 2008
 
Hi there Chris,

I happen to know that HST's stop at Nailsea in the Bristol area, en route from Devon to London Paddington... I have also read in a rail magazine that HST's were making more Bristol stops.

Hope this is of some help

Re: Ivybridge: Rail Users Group, services and cancellations (merged topics)
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 21:30, 6th November 2008
 
No problem - it's a not uncommon confusion! 

Keyham - see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keyham_railway_station

Keynsham - see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keynsham_railway_station

Actually, they're quite similar stations, in terms of their size - relative to an HST stopping at them! 

Re: Ivybridge: Rail Users Group, services and cancellations (merged topics)
Posted by Btline at 21:25, 6th November 2008
 
Whoops .

Re: Ivybridge: Rail Users Group, services and cancellations (merged topics)
Posted by vacman at 21:08, 6th November 2008
 
Keyham is between Plymouth and Saltash.

Re: Ivybridge: Rail Users Group, services and cancellations (merged topics)
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 21:01, 6th November 2008
 
Ah - Keynsham, between Bristol and Bath, rather than Keyham, near Plymouth? 

Re: Ivybridge: Rail Users Group, services and cancellations (merged topics)
Posted by Btline at 21:00, 6th November 2008
 
?

I meant the Key- station near Bristol, where is the other?

Re: Ivybridge: Rail Users Group, services and cancellations (merged topics)
Posted by devon_metro at 20:58, 6th November 2008
 
I have heard FGW HSTs will be making more local stops. that started in the Bristol area last year, looks like Devon will be getting something similar then. 
Oh grrrreat, they could go for the record for the longest slowest possible journey from Penzance to Paddington, next it'll be bloody Keyham, Dockyard and St Budeaux!

I agree, it is bad news. And there is already a Padd - Bristol HST that stops at Keyham!!

How long are the West Country trains taking from December? - they need to get it BELOW 3 hrs to Plymouth to tempt business travellers out of planes and cars.

I hope you mean Keynsham!

Fastest train PAD-PLY will be 3hrs3mins
Fastest Train PLY-PAD will be 3hrs

Re: Ivybridge: Rail Users Group, services and cancellations (merged topics)
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 20:57, 6th November 2008
 
Welcome to the forum, DevonTrains2008 - and thanks for that information!

Do you happen to have a source that you could quote, by any chance?

Re: Ivybridge: Rail Users Group, services and cancellations (merged topics)
Posted by Btline at 20:35, 6th November 2008
 
I have heard FGW HSTs will be making more local stops. that started in the Bristol area last year, looks like Devon will be getting something similar then. 
Oh grrrreat, they could go for the record for the longest slowest possible journey from Penzance to Paddington, next it'll be bloody Keyham, Dockyard and St Budeaux!

I agree, it is bad news. And there is already a Padd - Bristol HST that stops at Keyham!!

How long are the West Country trains taking from December? - they need to get it BELOW 3 hrs to Plymouth to tempt business travellers out of planes and cars.

Re: Ivybridge: Rail Users Group, services and cancellations (merged topics)
Posted by vacman at 17:24, 6th November 2008
 
I have heard FGW HSTs will be making more local stops. that started in the Bristol area last year, looks like Devon will be getting something similar then. 
Oh grrrreat, they could go for the record for the longest slowest possible journey from Penzance to Paddington, next it'll be bloody Keyham, Dockyard and St Budeaux!

Re: Ivybridge: Rail Users Group, services and cancellations (merged topics)
Posted by DevonTrains2008 at 16:47, 6th November 2008
 
I have heard FGW HSTs will be making more local stops. that started in the Bristol area last year, looks like Devon will be getting something similar then. 

Re: Ivybridge: Rail Users Group, services and cancellations (merged topics)
Posted by Lee at 21:23, 23rd October 2008
 
From the FGW website :

19:05 Penzance to Exeter St Davids due 22:28

This train will be terminated at Plymouth.It will no longer call at: Ivybridge, Totnes, Newton Abbot, Teignmouth, Dawlish, Dawlish Warren, Starcross, Exeter St Thomas and Exeter St Davids.This is due to a train fault.

This obviously creates a gap for through passenger journeys as well.

Re: Ivybridge: Rail Users Group, services and cancellations (merged topics)
Posted by Lee at 09:49, 23rd October 2008
 
Quote from Ivybridge Rail Users Group (link below) :
http://www.irug.ik.com/news/6367130288.ikml

: IRUG
To celebrate the introduction of High Speed Trains to Ivybridge, First Great Western has offered 5 pairs of return rail tickets to London (Paddington) valid for use on the 10.00am service from Ivybridge on Friday 19th December. Return travel may be on the same day or within 28 days.

Re: Ivybridge: Rail Users Group, services and cancellations (merged topics)
Posted by woody at 19:24, 30th September 2008
 

According to the FGW journey planner Ivybridge will have 3 up and 2 down HSTs stopping there from December.The up ones being the Ex plymouth 0945,1200,16.57 HSTs and the down ones being the 09.06,1606 ex Paddingtons HSTs.
Also the 20xx from Pad will be stopping at Ivybridge
Sorry missed that one so its 3 up and 3 down.

Re: Ivybridge: Rail Users Group, services and cancellations (merged topics)
Posted by vacman at 17:36, 30th September 2008
 

According to the FGW journey planner Ivybridge will have 3 up and 2 down HSTs stopping there from December.The up ones being the Ex plymouth 0945,1200,16.57 HSTs and the down ones being the 09.06,1606 ex Paddingtons HSTs.
Also the 20xx from Pad will be stopping at Ivybridge

Re: Ivybridge: Rail Users Group, services and cancellations (merged topics)
Posted by Andy at 14:24, 30th September 2008
 
1200 is completely unsuitable to be stopping additionally. On busy days it could do with being fast from Plymouth to Reading!!
That would make sense, missing Exeter at 1300ish!Not.

I don't know the metrics of this particular service and the surrounding ones ... but if a train IS already packed out, then there could be sense in missing out stops, could there not - displacing the intermediate station customer to slightly earlier / later and less overcrowded services, and giving a faster and more comfortable ride to the 12:00 passengers.

I am reminded by devon_metro'c comments of a time I looked at the London Underground map and wondered "why haven't they extended the Victoria line south further from Brixton".  The Northern line has a long tail to Morden, and I used to live out beyond Brixton in a highly populated ares, I wondered.   It turns out (I read elsewhere) that any extensions to the Victoria line would just throw even more trafiic at the line through London, which is already running at capacity - and that an extension would simply replace one problem (south of Brixton transport) with another (central congestion).   Along the same lines, I have to question local bypass proposals around here which - it would seem - may give some relief to one town but sponge other traffic into the area to the detriment of others.   All of which is getting a long way from the subject of cutting out Exeter stops   



Cutting Exeter stops on the GW line would be less of a problem if the LSWR line were upgraded....

Re: Ivybridge: Rail Users Group, services and cancellations (merged topics)
Posted by devon_metro at 12:49, 30th September 2008
 
1200 is completely unsuitable to be stopping additionally. On busy days it could do with being fast from Plymouth to Reading!!
That would make sense, missing Exeter at 1300ish!Not.

Reinstate the 1254 stopper to Paddinton!

Of course though, only on isolated days is it so busy.

Re: Ivybridge: Rail Users Group, services and cancellations (merged topics)
Posted by grahame at 07:59, 30th September 2008
 
1200 is completely unsuitable to be stopping additionally. On busy days it could do with being fast from Plymouth to Reading!!
That would make sense, missing Exeter at 1300ish!Not.

I don't know the metrics of this particular service and the surrounding ones ... but if a train IS already packed out, then there could be sense in missing out stops, could there not - displacing the intermediate station customer to slightly earlier / later and less overcrowded services, and giving a faster and more comfortable ride to the 12:00 passengers.

I am reminded by devon_metro'c comments of a time I looked at the London Underground map and wondered "why haven't they extended the Victoria line south further from Brixton".  The Northern line has a long tail to Morden, and I used to live out beyond Brixton in a highly populated ares, I wondered.   It turns out (I read elsewhere) that any extensions to the Victoria line would just throw even more trafiic at the line through London, which is already running at capacity - and that an extension would simply replace one problem (south of Brixton transport) with another (central congestion).   Along the same lines, I have to question local bypass proposals around here which - it would seem - may give some relief to one town but sponge other traffic into the area to the detriment of others.   All of which is getting a long way from the subject of cutting out Exeter stops   


Re: Ivybridge: Rail Users Group, services and cancellations (merged topics)
Posted by gaf71 at 23:10, 29th September 2008
 
1200 is completely unsuitable to be stopping additionally. On busy days it could do with being fast from Plymouth to Reading!!
That would make sense, missing Exeter at 1300ish!Not.

Re: Ivybridge: Rail Users Group, services and cancellations (merged topics)
Posted by devon_metro at 21:37, 29th September 2008
 
1200 is completely unsuitable to be stopping additionally. On busy days it could do with being fast from Plymouth to Reading!!

Re: Ivybridge: Rail Users Group, services and cancellations (merged topics)
Posted by woody at 20:54, 29th September 2008
 

According to the FGW journey planner Ivybridge will have 3 up and 2 down HSTs stopping there from December.The up ones being the Ex plymouth 0945,1200,16.57 HSTs and the down ones being the 09.06,1606 ex Paddingtons HSTs.

Re: Ivybridge: Rail Users Group, services and cancellations (merged topics)
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 22:44, 5th September 2008
 
"Last-minute preparations are under way for next weekend's Filham Music Festival. Hundreds are expected to flock to Filham Park in Ivybridge on Saturday for one of the biggest music events the area has seen. There are still a few tickets available for the event which has been dubbed 'Glastonbury in the South Hams' and will see Plymouth's top bands and musicians taking to the stage."

See http://www.thisisplymouth.co.uk/news/Festival-amazing/article-310551-detail/article.html

Re: Ivybridge loses midday service on Saturdays from September
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 23:06, 22nd August 2008
 
Sorry, Liam, you're quite right: it's also at http://www.firstgreatwestern.info/coffeeshop/index.php?topic=3311.0

 

Re: Ivybridge loses midday service on Saturdays from September
Posted by devon_metro at 22:32, 22nd August 2008
 
Hasnt this already been posted on here..?

Ivybridge loses midday service on Saturdays from September
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 21:59, 22nd August 2008
 
From Ivybridge Rail Users Group (IRUG):

"As happened last year the service from Par to Exeter which called at Ivybridge (12.48), terminates at Plymouth, leaving Ivybridge without a useful Midday service to Exeter on Saturdays.  Despite efforts to retain this service we are again going to lose this service but with promises to review the situation for 2009.  Don't hold your breath?"

See http://www.irug.ik.com/news/home.ikml

Re: Ivybridge: Rail Users Group, services and cancellations (merged topics)
Posted by Lee at 11:19, 19th August 2008
 
Ivybridge Rail Users Group article link.
http://www.irug.ik.com/news/6367121815.ikml

Re: Ivybridge: Rail Users Group, services and cancellations (merged topics)
Posted by Lee at 06:55, 5th June 2008
 
A summary of the AGM can be found in the link below.
http://www.irug.ik.com/news/6367114196.ikml


Re: Ivybridge: Rail Users Group, services and cancellations (merged topics)
Posted by Lee at 18:11, 16th May 2008
 
From the FGW website :

14:00 Penzance to London Paddington due 19:24
This train has been revised.It will additionally call at: Ivybridge.



 
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