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21.4.2025 (Monday) 17:16 - All running AOK
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Re: GWR services to Cardiff - slashed for the day / urgent bridge repairs
In "Shorter journeys in South and West Wales" [360754/30170/23]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 16:26, 21st April 2025
 
An update, from the BBC:

Second day of rail disruption for 'urgent' repairs



Rail services are experiencing major disruption with journeys cancelled or suspended due to urgent repairs needed on a bridge on Sunday and into Monday.

The work near Cardiff Central station has affected a number of routes run by Great Western Railway, Transport for Wales and CrossCountry, according to National Rail.

Rail replacement transport is being organised between Newport and Cardiff Central, and Cardiff Central and Caerphilly.

"Major disruption is expected until the end of the day on Monday 21 April," said National Rail.  It said routes affected included:

* CrossCountry between Nottingham / Birmingham New Street / Bristol Temple Meads and Cardiff Central

* Great Western Railway between Bristol Temple Meads and Cardiff Central, and also between Bristol Parkway and Swansea

* Transport for Wales between Cardiff Central and Cardiff Bay / Ebbw Vale Town / Pontypridd / Merthyr Tydfil / Aberdare / Treherbert, and between Barry Island and Caerphilly, and also between Penarth and Cardiff Queen Street



Re: 2025 - Service update and amendment log, Swindon <-> Westbury
In "TransWilts line" [360753/29726/18]
Posted by grahame at 16:15, 21st April 2025
 
15:15 Swindon to Westbury due 15:59 will be started from Chippenham.
It will no longer call at Swindon.
It will be delayed at Chippenham and is expected to be 9 minutes late.
This is due to a passenger being taken ill on this train.

Re: North Cotswold line delays and cancellations - 2025
In "London to the Cotswolds" [360752/29711/14]
Posted by Worcester_Passenger at 16:10, 21st April 2025
 
Monday April 21

13:18 Hereford to London Paddington due 16:30.
This is due to overcrowding.
Service full and standing. First class is declassified.
Last Updated:21/04/2025 14:35

At 14:35 this train, a 5-car unit, was at Evesham.

16:30:
15:18 Worcester Foregate Street to London Paddington due 17:26 will be terminated at Oxford.
This is due to a fault with the signalling system.
Last Updated:21/04/2025 16:19

Re: Eyesight rules for motorists unsafe, says coroner
In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [360751/30168/51]
Posted by IndustryInsider at 13:14, 21st April 2025
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YkDGCVs7H7Y

MOVED: Urgent bridge repairs in Cardiff area
In "London to South Wales" [360750/30175/11]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 12:31, 21st April 2025

Re: Firstgroup's rail division trading 'ahead of expectations'
In "Across the West" [360749/30153/26]
Posted by ChrisB at 11:41, 21st April 2025
 
The minimum notice period, as you say in your post, is three periods (4 weeks x3), so 12 weeks or just under 3 months. Not sure why you then suggest it'll be 6 months (in practice?)

And as far as I can see in the legislation, there's nothing to prevent those three periods ending at the core period end date, rather than starting then. So it seems possible to transfer at the end of core period.

Re: Firstgroup's rail division trading 'ahead of expectations'
In "Across the West" [360748/30153/26]
Posted by stuving at 10:29, 21st April 2025
 
All of this is well explained in a House of Commons Library "Insight" paper. This points out that the government's declared policy is to take over one TOC roughly every three months, determined by the capacity of the OLR organisation to cope with them. Termination dates will be as determined by the contracts, subject to the DfT's powers to adjust them at no cost.

So far existing OLR contracts have been extended, but GA's built-in extension was cut back to this autumn. The next one should be at the end of this year, and four contracts could be terminated then with the required three periods of notice: WMR, Chiltern, and GTR - which have all passed their core term expiry date already - and GWR which will reach that in June. I guess we'll find out this summer, assuming the actual notice period is six months. So any choice of which to cull first will be between those; the next core term expiry date is not until EMR in October 2026. The only final expiry date in 2026 is WMT in September, so they will need to go before then.

At least that's the plan now. It may change a bit once they get some experience, though the OLR takeover process itself isn't new. They will need to work out where all the extras management staff to give the OLR corporeal form will come from. And then, somehow, GBR has to precipitate out of this interim solution ...

Re: Every way to travel between Devon/Cornwall to London rated
In "Buses and other ways to travel" [360747/30174/5]
Posted by PrestburyRoad at 10:22, 21st April 2025
Already liked by Mark A
 
13. Walk

Re: Firstgroup's rail division trading 'ahead of expectations'
In "Across the West" [360745/30153/26]
Posted by a-driver at 08:58, 21st April 2025
Already liked by GBM, TaplowGreen
 
The DfT do seem to be picking on the better run operations first for transfers. If they keep that up next year, I suspect GWR will be one of those selected, personally speaking

How are you defining "better run"?

I wouldn’t use the term better run, but the ones they have taken or plan to take over first have their “benefits” to the DfT.

Greater Anglia - whole brand new fleet of trains, one of the most punctual operators as a result serving the busiest London terminus.

C2C - a simple, straightforward one or two route operation, with a relatively new fleet.

SWR - One of the most profitable franchises.

I reckon GWR will be one of the last, purely because of its varied operation.

Re: Every way to travel between Devon/Cornwall to London rated
In "Buses and other ways to travel" [360744/30174/5]
Posted by grahame at 08:56, 21st April 2025
 
11. Taxi

12. Local buses all the way

Every way to travel between Devon/Cornwall to London rated
In "Buses and other ways to travel" [360743/30174/5]
Posted by TaplowGreen at 08:21, 21st April 2025
 
Quite interesting - with apologies for all the ads/popups!

https://gosouthwestengland.co.uk/south-west-to-london/?fbclid=IwY2xjawJy0MJleHRuA2FlbQIxMAABHi2T2SxonjtjVQfguRmrn9mpTdarQxWQMFeAI1x1oCwqAuw3N9tBlr2sZp-3_aem_o3Ese0YWhlLT38Siw56QhA

Re: Firstgroup's rail division trading 'ahead of expectations'
In "Across the West" [360742/30153/26]
Posted by TaplowGreen at 07:58, 21st April 2025
 
The DfT do seem to be picking on the better run operations first for transfers. If they keep that up next year, I suspect GWR will be one of those selected, personally speaking

How are you defining "better run"?

Re: Fortuitous connections ... and an App which fails to offer the best journey
In "Smoke and Mirrors" [360740/30169/3]
Posted by grahame at 05:41, 21st April 2025
 
35 and 49 mins I believe are in excess of the rules set up for reasonable connections,

Colloquially, yes, over half an hour starts to become unreasonable - but that does not stop the GWR timetable and booking engine routinely offering them. Here is an example of an 81 minutes wait at Trowbridge this morning, which I would not attempt to market.



Rather oddly, the 06:32 off Melksham DOES officially connect into the first Weymouth train this morning at Westbury as it's varied to leave 3 minutes later than normal ... and that's enough of a change time now.  In practise, I made this change (06:48 to 06:50) on Friday from one 3 car 166 to another 3 car 166 ... and it has me wondering if the norm should be a through service to Weymouth with a connection ( 7 minutes ) on to Salisbury and Southampton.



GWR services to Cardiff - slashed for the day / urgent bridge repairs
In "Shorter journeys in South and West Wales" [360739/30170/23]
Posted by grahame at 05:22, 21st April 2025
 
75 trains running short routes today (Monday 21st April 2025) - problems between Newport and Cardiff.  West Country trains terminating at Newport, Portsmouth trains terminating at Bristol, looks like London trains still running. Due to the fragmented nature of our systems, I'll need to look elsewhere to find out about Cardiff trains from Nottingham, from Shrewsbury and beyond, and more locally from Cheltenham Spa and from Ebbw Vale.

Where GWR say "alterations" they do of course avoid using the more specific wording like "cancellations" and "reductions" - don't you love doublespeak!

Alterations to services between Bristol Temple Meads and Cardiff Centra

Due to urgent repairs to a bridge between Bristol Temple Meads and Cardiff Central fewer trains are able to run on some lines.

Train services running through these stations may be revised. Disruption is expected until the end of the day.

Customer Advice

Urgent repairs are required to a bridge in the Cardiff area.

As a result of this fewer train services will be able to operate through that area and owing to the reduction in the operational flexiblility there, those services which do operate may be subject to further delay and revision.

Train services that would normally operate between Bristol Temple Meads and Cardiff Central will operate to a reduced frequency in both directions.

The general pattern of service will be for those services which originate from / are destined for west country locations (Penzance / Plymouth / Exeter / Taunton / Weston-superMare) will operate though to / from South Wales but will terminate and start back from Newport. A change of train will be required to travel to / from Cardiff Central. Those services which originate from / are destined for Westbury / Salisbury / Southampton / Portsmouth will not operate between Bristol Temple Meads and Cardiff Central.

GWR ticket holders may use Transport for Wales services in the area at no extra cost but do note that their services will also be affected by this incident.

Please accept our apologies for any inconvenience this may cause to your journey today.

Further Information

An update will follow within the next 2 hours.

If you arrive at your destination 15 or more minutes late because your GWR train was delayed or cancelled, you can claim Delay Repay compensation. Please keep your ticket and visit GWR.com/DelayRepay
Last Updated:21/04/2025 04:01

Re: Eyesight rules for motorists unsafe, says coroner
In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [360738/30168/51]
Posted by Trowres at 23:12, 20th April 2025
 
Free eyesight tests for the elderly (actually over 60's) are now only at two-yearly intervals, unless one of several reasons are met.

Re: Fortuitous connections ... and an App which fails to offer the best journey
In "Smoke and Mirrors" [360737/30169/3]
Posted by LiskeardRich at 22:03, 20th April 2025
 
Yes, understood.  Why I raise this ...

a) The 14:00 Cardiff - Penzance, change into the Portsmouth train at Temple Meads, change into the Swindon train at Trowbridge WERE all running.  And with in excess of the minimum connection time. Why did the App not offer this?

14:00 from Cardiff, 14:51 into Temple Meads

choice of
15:03 train towards Frome, 15:40 at Trowbridge or
15:23 train towards Portsmouth Harbour, 15:54 at Trowbridge

16:29 from Trowbridge to Melksham, arrives 16:38

Bristol temple meads has a minimum connection time of 10 mins according to national rail website.
Booking systems can not sell an itinerary less than this.

Yes - but there was either 12 or 32 minutes available at Bristol Temple Meads, and the 49 or 35 minutes available at Trowbridge, so ...

There's your answer right there.....

No Chris, that is not my answer as to why there was nothing offered from Cardiff between 13:30 and 16:23. All four trains listed above are in the timetable, all four ran at least the part of the route I needed, and the connections offered were way in excess of minimum time. 



35 and 49 mins I believe are in excess of the rules set up for reasonable connections,

Re: Passengers stranded after being let off train for fresh air: Swindon, April 2025
In "London to South Wales" [360736/30159/11]
Posted by froome at 21:31, 20th April 2025
 
I have had a very similar experience to this incident as well (which I think I have related here before). We were on a very crowded train from Newport to Temple Meads, which had its first stop at Severn Tunnel Junction. The guard was also standing where we were, and when I asked, he said the front carriage was much less crowded, and agreed that we should get out at the first stop and walk down the platform to get back on that carriage. We did that with our luggage, and just before we got to the door in that carriage, it closed, and the train started moving off. He could obviously see what we were doing, so I can only assume that he had forgotten what he had said to us. We had to wait half an hour for the next service.

Re: Eyesight rules for motorists unsafe, says coroner
In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [360735/30168/51]
Posted by froome at 21:21, 20th April 2025
 
I've always said anyone over 70 must have an annual eye test, and that result must be available for the DVLA to see.
Possibly a simple re-test every two years for driving ability as well.

Professional wagon and bus drivers need an annual eye test and medical over 70 years of age, so car drivers should have similar.

Agree 100% with eye test and re-test for driving.

Being in a car with my late Father driving when he was in his early 80s was often an experience where all concerned found themselves praying to whatever God they held dear!

I had similar experiences with my last remaining aunt. It is several years since I went as a passenger in her car, but every time I have, it has been terrifying, as she drives right alongside parked cars at speeds that must be well over the speed limit. Her sons have made many attempts to get her to stop, and she finally has, but only at the age of 98(!) when she had an accident that shook her up (fortunately nothing worse), which has coincided with her health deteriorating.

Re: Passengers stranded after being let off train for fresh air: Swindon, April 2025
In "London to South Wales" [360734/30159/11]
Posted by onthecushions at 21:08, 20th April 2025
 

?train despatch

?guard + whistle?

OTC

Re: Fortuitous connections ... and an App which fails to offer the best journey
In "Smoke and Mirrors" [360733/30169/3]
Posted by Surrey 455 at 20:08, 20th April 2025
 

* When a train is cancelled, the App should offer alternative which are still running and fits within the normal interchange criteria

Have you tried the National Rail App? When a journey is known to be disrupted on one or more legs, the NR app has offered alternatives routes / times to me.

Re: Could the next Weca mayor take over running buses?
In "Bristol (WECA) Commuters" [360732/30172/21]
Posted by grahame at 19:02, 20th April 2025
 
So what does the position of the arms in the publicity picture tell me?

Two gave hands crossed over their crotch (what are they protecting?)
Two have their hands behind there backs (what are they hiding?)
One has hands by her side (is she doing anything?)
And one has his hands crossed oveR his chest (does he look fed up?)

Could the next Weca mayor take over running buses?
In "Bristol (WECA) Commuters" [360731/30172/21]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 18:28, 20th April 2025
 
From the BBC:


The six West of England Combined Authority mayoral candidates (from left): Arron Banks, Steve Smith, Helen Godwin, Mary Page, Oli Henman and Ian Scott

Most of the candidates standing in the election to run the West of England Combined Authority (Weca) are calling for the franchising of buses.

That would mean turning the clock back on 40 years of private control.

If it happens, the new mayor would decide on routes, fares and timetables. But there are warnings that it could mean an increase to council tax bills.

It was 1986 when buses around Bristol and Bath were put into private hands. Over the following decades passenger numbers declined, and dropped sharply amid the Covid lockdowns.

The main operator, First Bus, says since then there has been progress. Passenger numbers have risen in the past two years, though are still below pre-pandemic levels.

Partly funded by Weca, it now runs more services on the most popular routes. But a shortage of council funding led to many subsidised services being cut.

May's election could herald big changes. Five of the six vying to be mayor favour franchising. That would see control of routes, fares and timetables taken out of the hands of private operators, and given to Weca.

Recent changes in the law have made it easier for mayors to do this. Manchester finished its move to franchising in January 2025. Liverpool, South Yorkshire and West Yorkshire are also aiming to make the change. But it all comes with a warning: it will cost taxpayers.


Bus campaigner David Redgewell said the scheme could either be financed through taxes or higher fares

The transition would come with a price tag; there would also be yearly running costs.

"It's the right way to go, but we've got to have the finance to do it," cautions bus campaigner David Redgewell.  "There are only two ways to pay for it. One is through the taxpayer, and your local taxes and government grants, and the other way is through fares."

However, it is not just down to who wins on 1 May. Any such change would take time – several years in Manchester's case. And with set-up costs of tens of millions of pounds, it might be difficult at a time of such stretched budgets.



Re: Eyesight rules for motorists unsafe, says coroner
In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [360730/30168/51]
Posted by Marlburian at 16:31, 20th April 2025
 
Driving re-tests every two years would place further burdens on the DVLA, which is having trouble coping with the number of learner drivers wanting their first tests, and with the Government eager to cut Civil Service numbers ...

I'm nudging 80 and haven't needed to use a motorway for decades and don't drive at night. Didn't the last tweaks to the test include parking on the other side of the road and then driving away? Something I might find challenging but have never needed to do. So I would twitch at the thought of a test that took these into account.

Certainly eyesight is an issue, and elderly people can have free annual tests. The roadside check is a bit hit & miss; this morning I walked along several streets in bright sunshine and could read number plates from further away than on a dull day.

When Dad was around 84, staff at Mother's nursing home were alarmed when they saw him drive up to visit her, such was his own state of health.

Re: Salisbury Station, 2025 edition
In "South Western services" [360729/30171/42]
Posted by bobm at 13:37, 20th April 2025
Already liked by Mark A
 
Meanwhile out the front.

https://www.wiltshire.gov.uk/news/upcoming-resurfacing-work-at-salisbury-railway-station-forecourt-marks-next-milestone-in-this-key-project-for-salisbury

As the final phase of enhancements at Salisbury Railway Station progresses, a key milestone is coming up with plans to resurface the station forecourt area.

Works will be taking place overnight on the 22 -24 April 2025 (inclusive) to install additional drainage gullies immediately outside of the station building entrance. These works need to be completed prior to the proposed resurfacing works.

From 8pm on Friday 25 April to 4am Tuesday 29 April (24 hour working including both day and night working), the station forecourt will be closed to vehicular traffic from South Western Road. Pedestrian access to and from the railway station, South Western Road and the lower car park will remain available for the duration of the closure.

Drop off and pick up points will temporarily be located in the lower car park and visitors seeking to access the Stonehenge Tour buses should follow the signed route to their temporary location. Accessible parking bays will be available in the lower car park and be positioned as close as possible to the main station entrance. Access to / egress from the lower car park will be available for the duration of the closure via Churchfields Road only. Taxis will temporarily be relocated to South Western Road.

The station's cycle hub will remain accessible from Churchfields Road and Mill Road.

Railway customers will be able to use the new Fisherton Car Park located at the former East Goods Yard site. The car park will open to coincide with the road closure period for resurfacing works and will remain open for the foreseeable future.

To ensure smooth operations, four traffic marshals will be on duty from Friday 25 April until Tuesday 29 April. Three marshals will be stationed in the forecourt area and one will be positioned in Churchfields Road to manage pedestrian and vehicular traffic.

Parvis Khansari, Corporate Director Place, said: We apologise in advance for any inconvenience and disturbance caused by these works. This is anticipated to be the last time we will need to undertake 24 hour working during this project.

We would like to thank in particular the residents of Churchfields Road for their patience and continued co-operation in delivering this important scheme for Salisbury.

Once the Station Forecourt scheme is complete it will provide a more attractive, and welcoming environment for visitors and residents alike.

The Station Forecourt project forms part of the £9 million investment from the Future High Streets Fund.

Re: 10 Reasons that rail investment should continue
In "Looking forward - the next 5, 10 and 20 years" [360728/24275/40]
Posted by Noggin at 12:20, 20th April 2025
 
By providing fast, reliable transport there is (still) enormous potential for frequent, reliable and affordable rail services to provide people with the education, career and cultural opportunities in the centres of major cities (and the leisure opportunities in the countryside for that matter). This is particularly the case for those who can't drive for age/affordability/medical reasons, but also those with families who often have narrow windows of time during which they can work, making long commutes unfeasible.

The classic example has long been the Welsh Valleys, but there are plenty of even urban places like Lockleaze in Bristol where a railway line runs through but getting into the city centre by bus can take up to 40 minutes in rush hour.

If we took the Bristol example further, an extra pair of tracks between Chipping Sodbury and Bristol Parkway would enable an RER-style service to serve the south of Yate, Winterbourne and Coalpit Heath, not to mention enabling considerable amounts of housing to be built south of the line (whether that is desirable is another question).

And for the true believers, it seems ludicrous that Bristol has a more or less serviceable rail right of way right through some of the most deprived areas in the north east of the city which would be quite feasible to return to rail use (albeit needing some creativity at the southern end).


Re: Fortuitous connections ... and an App which fails to offer the best journey
In "Smoke and Mirrors" [360727/30169/3]
Posted by ChrisB at 12:18, 20th April 2025
Already liked by Chris from Nailsea
 
That was bad enough that it needed editing - thank you!

Re: Fortuitous connections ... and an App which fails to offer the best journey
In "Smoke and Mirrors" [360726/30169/3]
Posted by Red Squirrel at 12:14, 20th April 2025
 
It's that 9 minute connection you ackonwledged

Phew. For a moment I thought you were accusing our esteemed colleague of ackonWEGGLING, in which case I would have had to arrange for my seconds to call on you…

Re: Fortuitous connections ... and an App which fails to offer the best journey
In "Smoke and Mirrors" [360725/30169/3]
Posted by ChrisB at 12:08, 20th April 2025
 
... I caught the 14:00 Penzance train, changed (9 minutes) at Bristol Temple Meads, changed Chippenham (5 minute) and arrived Melksham 15:39

I thought you were asking why *this* connection wasn't offered. It's that 9 minute connection you acknowledged

 
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