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Re: Railways Bill 2025: introducing and designing Great British Railways - general topic
In "Looking forward - the next 2, 5, 10 and 20 years" [375454/31038/40]
Posted by eightonedee at 22:11, 24th May 2026
 
Is it just me, or does anyone else think some of the names are geographically stretching it.

It's a bit of an odd mix of old TOC names carried forward and some elimination of old commercial identities. It does indicate that we'll be stuck with a lot of the anomalies of the current system if this reflects the management structure underneath the new labels.

A few thoughts occur-

1 - How will the much-vaunted vertical integration work when (for example) "West Coast" "North Western" "West Midlands" and "Northern" will have considerable geographic overlap of the lines they use and "Cross Country" largely (almost exclusively?) uses track in other divisions' areas. We also seem to be left with a mish-mash of some that cover all trains in their area (like GW) and others split local and long distance/express services (like Northern and Trans-Pennine)

2- Does the separate "Sleeper" identity indicate that the two sleeper networks (GW and Caledonian) will be consolidated or that the former is for the chop?

3 - Are these just marketing names?  If so, I agree that some seem to merit revisiting.

It does indicate that re-nationalisation will not be the panacea some claim.

Hastings Unit to Inverness
In "Heritage railways, Railtours, buses, canals, steamships and other public transport based attractions" [375453/32071/47]
Posted by bradshaw at 22:03, 24th May 2026
 
This weekend the Branch Line Society ran a three day excursion from Tonbridge to Inverness and back. This used the Hastings Diesel Limited units. Details can be seen on Blue Sky @hastingsdiesel.co.uk and searching Hastings DEMU on X
Timings on RTT

https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/service/gb-nr:U85247/2026-05-22/detailed

https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/service/gb-nr:U85251/2026-05-23/detailed

https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/service/gb-nr:U85250/2026-05-23/detailed

https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/service/gb-nr:U85254/2026-05-24/detailed

Re: A week back in the UK
In "The Lighter Side" [375452/32057/30]
Posted by Oxonhutch at 22:01, 24th May 2026
 
4. Oxford. An unfamiliar livery, on a poor little unloved EWR unit wondering if it will ever get a chance to run in service before it's given a more garish makeover.

Glad to see that there is more dark, than light blue; but then I might be biased. 

Re: A week back in the UK
In "The Lighter Side" [375451/32057/30]
Posted by TonyN at 21:50, 24th May 2026
 
9. Parkstone Quay

Re: Railways Bill 2025: introducing and designing Great British Railways - general topic
In "Looking forward - the next 2, 5, 10 and 20 years" [375450/31038/40]
Posted by John D at 21:36, 24th May 2026
 
New names for the old TOCs in the file attached

Thanks, Chris - I have extracted the new names from that

Great British Railways | Southern
Great British Railways | South East
Great British Railways | Thameslink
Great British Railways | Great Northern
Great British Railways | Great Western
Great British Railways | South Western
Great British Railways | Island Line
Great British Railways | Chiltern
Great British Railways | Anglia
Great British Railways | East Coast
Great British Railways | West Coast
Great British Railways | West Midlands
Great British Railways | North Western
Great British Railways | North
Great British Railways | TransPennine
Great British Railways | East Midlands
Great British Railways | CrossCountry
Great British Railways | High Speed
Great British Railways | Sleeper

One of the class 701 Artiero fleet used in London suburbs has appeared with its new GBR South West branding.

I used to think of South West as Somerset, Devon, Cornwall etc.
Clearly DfT has now defined it as Surrey and Berkshire

Is it just me, or does anyone else think some of the names are geographically stretching it.   Another example : West Coast has about 50 miles within about 10 miles of western coast, about 80 miles near north coast of Wales, and over 400 miles that is better described as inland rather than near any coast.

Re: Railways Bill 2025: introducing and designing Great British Railways - general topic
In "Looking forward - the next 2, 5, 10 and 20 years" [375449/31038/40]
Posted by Oxonhutch at 21:32, 24th May 2026
 
Interestingly missing Northern Ireland too.

But that is Ireland rather than Great Britain



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Re: Atlantic Coast Express - merged posts
In "Heritage railways, Railtours, buses, canals, steamships and other public transport based attractions" [375448/29292/47]
Posted by PhilWakely at 21:25, 24th May 2026
 
I had a major dilemma choosing where to phot the railtour. It was due to pass Pinhoe at 13:15 and arrive at St David's at 13:24. I did not want to phot the tour at either Pinhoe or St David's as both places would be crowded (based on past experience). The choice was made harder as D1015 'Western Champion' was also due to pass St David's at 13:17 on The Golden Hind railtour. So, I chose the approach to Exeter Centgral for Clan Line and chose to miss out on photting Champion.

If only humans were born with an inbuilt sense of Foresight! The Mule can be chaotic with late running trains - and sure enough Clan Line was 20 minutes late arriving at St. David's! If I had gambled on that happening, I'd have photted Champion at Red Cow Crossing and then caught the 13:25 Up Waterloo back up to Central still been in position to phot Clan Line approaching Central! Of course, if I had gambled, you can guarantee that both tours would have run to time! Oh well, such is life! I did, however, manage to phot both railtours passing Cullompton on their respective return workings.





Re: Railways Bill 2025: introducing and designing Great British Railways - general topic
In "Looking forward - the next 2, 5, 10 and 20 years" [375447/31038/40]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 20:20, 24th May 2026
 
Just to bear in mind, it is a Whitehall based Department for Transport document. 

Re: Railways Bill 2025: introducing and designing Great British Railways - general topic
In "Looking forward - the next 2, 5, 10 and 20 years" [375446/31038/40]
Posted by grahame at 20:02, 24th May 2026
 
And here was me thinking that Scotland and Wales are also in Great Britain.

Interestingly missing Northern Ireland too.

Re: Railways Bill 2025: introducing and designing Great British Railways - general topic
In "Looking forward - the next 2, 5, 10 and 20 years" [375445/31038/40]
Posted by Oxonhutch at 19:56, 24th May 2026
Already liked by Mark A
 
And here was me thinking that Scotland and Wales are also in Great Britain.

Re: Railways Bill 2025: introducing and designing Great British Railways - general topic
In "Looking forward - the next 2, 5, 10 and 20 years" [375441/31038/40]
Posted by ChrisB at 18:52, 24th May 2026
Already liked by grahame
 
I spent over 15 mins trying to do that, unsuccessfully!!

Re: Railways Bill 2025: introducing and designing Great British Railways - general topic
In "Looking forward - the next 2, 5, 10 and 20 years" [375440/31038/40]
Posted by grahame at 18:38, 24th May 2026
 
New names for the old TOCs in the file attached

Thanks, Chris - I have extracted the new names from that

Great British Railways | Southern
Great British Railways | South East
Great British Railways | Thameslink
Great British Railways | Great Northern
Great British Railways | Great Western
Great British Railways | South Western
Great British Railways | Island Line
Great British Railways | Chiltern
Great British Railways | Anglia
Great British Railways | East Coast
Great British Railways | West Coast
Great British Railways | West Midlands
Great British Railways | North Western
Great British Railways | North
Great British Railways | TransPennine
Great British Railways | East Midlands
Great British Railways | CrossCountry
Great British Railways | High Speed
Great British Railways | Sleeper

Re: UK sees hottest day of year as bank holiday travellers face queues
In "Across the West" [375439/32055/26]
Posted by eXPassenger at 18:11, 24th May 2026
 
From the BBC:
.....Passengers travelling to Europe from the Port of Dover earlier faced delays of several hours, due to the introduction of a new entry and exit system.....

Rather amusingly, at around 09:30 on Saturday due to the queues becoming unmanageable the French Border Police stopped using the EES and reverted to the good old stamping of passports. This has been confirmed by Simon Calder.

So it is not just our government that are crap at designing & implementing technology!

The problem is worse than that.  The overall requirement was designed by the EU to cover airports as that was the chief method of entry before Brexit.  In airports passengers arrive at the desks on foot and can be fairly easily processed (I know there have been snafus in airports).  Entry from the UK via Dover has families in cars in a confined space.  The time to process a car load of passengers is longer that the same number of passengers at an airport.  Dover has come up with a number of interesting solutions including processing coaches off sit and then sealing them for the journey to the ferry.


Re: Swindon <-> Westbury service updates and amendments, ongoing discussion - 2026
In "TransWilts line" [375438/31359/18]
Posted by John D at 17:11, 24th May 2026
Already liked by Phil
 
Very interesting stats, Graham.  Thanks for providing them so quickly.

I think that means that the TransWilts is now broadly in line with the rest of GWR in terms of cancellations, which is broadly in line with the rest of the country.

https://www.pressreader.com/uk/newbury-weekly-news/20260514/281689736443730

So, GWR wide they're gone from a woeful position in 2025, to a poor but much better position in 2026.  Still much to be done, but encouraging nonetheless.

A disappointing couple of days, but given the heat arriving very suddenly after a period of low temperatures, and the fact it's a Bank Holiday weekend, that's probably not too surprising.  Expected, if not to be accepted.



So what would you say GWR has done/is doing differently to upgrade performance from "woeful" to "poor"?

Personally I would use a worse than poor description for things like 2 consecutive trains not running.   Woeful seems as good a word as any.

If > 3% cancellations, or less than two thirds on time, 19% not within 3 minutes, and what appears to be increasing numbers of short forms, can be described as upgraded from woeful to poor, is debatable in my mind

https://www.gwr.com/-/media/gwr-sc-website/files/publications/performance-report/gwr-performance-report-period-2701.pdf


Re: Railways Bill 2025: introducing and designing Great British Railways - general topic
In "Looking forward - the next 2, 5, 10 and 20 years" [375437/31038/40]
Posted by ChrisB at 17:00, 24th May 2026
 
New names for the old TOCs in the file attached

Re: Thames Valley infrastructure problems causing disruption elsewhere - 2026
In "Across the West" [375436/31163/26]
Posted by TaplowGreen at 16:49, 24th May 2026
 
Cancellations to services between Reading and Newbury

Due to a fault with the signalling system between Reading and Newbury some lines are blocked.
Train services running to and from these stations will be cancelled or delayed.

Disruption is expected until the end of the day.

This one is for a member of the Coffee Shop forum - no names given ;-)
In "The Lighter Side" [375434/32069/30]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 15:46, 24th May 2026
 
From the BBC:

Bank Holiday BBQ

Break out the barbie this Bank Holiday. We've got everything you need for an alfresco bumper barbecue from coleslaw to cocktails.

(BBC article continues)


Minister defends Translink fares freeze despite possibility of cuts to services
In "Fare's Fair" [375433/32068/4]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 15:28, 24th May 2026
 
From the BBC:

Minister defends Translink fares freeze despite possibility of cuts to services

The Infrastructure Minister Liz Kimmins has defended freezing bus and train fares across Northern Ireland, despite warnings from Translink that it could reduce public transport services and discounts.

Cuts to services across Metro, Ulsterbus and NI Railways are being explored under the proposals, with the company trying to make savings of £10m.

Translink is publicly owned but operates at arm's length from Stormont's Department for Infrastructure (DfI).

Despite proposals to cut services, Kimmins said on Sunday that her decision last month to freeze fares for a second year running was the right move.

Kimmins said "for every decision there is a consequence and in this case I feel that the consequences of increasing fares would have been far more detrimental than freezing fares". She said she would continue to work with Translink "so that we can find solutions and find a way forward".

Translink's Chief Executive Chris Conway previously told a Stormont committee that freezing fares has cost more than £20m of revenue over the past nine years.

However, speaking on Sunday, the minister said that putting fares up "at a time when people are struggling would act as a deterrent for people to use public transport, so we have to get the balance right".

(BBC article continues)


Re: New Oxford - Bristol direct service, ongoing developments and discussion
In "Oxford, Didcot and Reading from the West" [375431/28355/22]
Posted by Richard Fairhurst at 15:08, 24th May 2026
Already liked by Mark A
 
Everything was running late at Oxford on Friday afternoon, but while waiting for my train home I noticed the 1700 to Bristol was very healthily loaded. It left Oxford 22 minutes late but was only 9 late by Bristol, by the looks of it thanks partly to a scheduled six-minute dwell at Bath. https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/service/gb-nr:G15077/2026-05-22/detailed

Re: Paddington <-> Bristol: service updates and amendments - ongoing discussion
In "London to Swindon and Bristol" [375430/18525/10]
Posted by Mark A at 15:08, 24th May 2026
Already liked by PrestburyRoad
 
Catching the 10:13 Bath Spa to Chippenham this morning to hear a thing at Chippenham's folk festival, platform at Bath was cheerfully very busy, with staff to manage it, the train came in, also cheerfully busy, everyone aboard somehow and off up we all went. Quite a few off at Chippenham and very many more waiting to board. Chippenham Station forecourt on a Sunday morning was a surprise as it was by  no means devoid of bus services and I could have chosen several destinations including, heaven help us, Castle Combe. Not sure if Melksham was an option but a bus did leave for Trowbridge, so, perhaps.

Also to be seen, that commendable covered bicycle parking provision, albeit with just two bikes in it. Useful to know that that's there. Wishing Bath had something like it.

The festival, very cheerful, and the park by the river hosting the public part of it with stalls + music - pretty ideal as the trees were providing copious shade and cooled air. It runs tomorrow as well.

Back on the 13:38 which was announced as arriving full and standing, passengers please spread out along the platform (the platform was on the way to being as busy as the one at Bath earlier). It took a little while to motivate the people standing aboard the train to free up the copious (standing) space in the carriages at each side, but once that was done, all aboard and... off we all went down the line. About 8027 people alighted at Bath, but from its appearance, the train was still pretty full when it left for Bristol. Good, well used public transport even if the route could probably have run to three trains an hour to soak up both existing and suppressed demand this sunny Sunday.

Mark

Re: Swindon <-> Westbury service updates and amendments, ongoing discussion - 2026
In "TransWilts line" [375429/31359/18]
Posted by TaplowGreen at 14:04, 24th May 2026
 
Very interesting stats, Graham.  Thanks for providing them so quickly.

I think that means that the TransWilts is now broadly in line with the rest of GWR in terms of cancellations, which is broadly in line with the rest of the country.

https://www.pressreader.com/uk/newbury-weekly-news/20260514/281689736443730

So, GWR wide they're gone from a woeful position in 2025, to a poor but much better position in 2026.  Still much to be done, but encouraging nonetheless.

A disappointing couple of days, but given the heat arriving very suddenly after a period of low temperatures, and the fact it's a Bank Holiday weekend, that's probably not too surprising.  Expected, if not to be accepted.



So what would you say GWR has done/is doing differently to upgrade performance from "woeful" to "poor"?

Re: Romney, Hythe & Dymchurch Railway
In "Heritage railways, Railtours, buses, canals, steamships and other public transport based attractions" [375428/13608/47]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 13:51, 24th May 2026
 
From the BBC:

Steam railway installs solar panels to cut bills

A steam railway in Kent has installed rooftop solar panels to cope with rising energy costs.

The Romney, Hythe and Dymchurch Railway fitted panels to two engine sheds, its cafe and its exhibition hall at New Romney station, as well as its restaurant at Dungeness station.

Kent Community Energy, the group behind the project, estimated the scheme could cut up to £18,000 from the miniature heritage railway's annual energy bill.

Railway general manager Stuart Ross said that running costs had "increased hugely" in recent years because of "spiralling energy costs".

The solar panels are forecasted to generate 110,000 kWh per year, according to Kent Community Energy.

The railway has not had to invest in the panels themselves but instead will buy the electricity they generate at a "lower cost" for the duration of the 20-year contract, it said.

Ross said it would "help us to improve our environmental credentials while making cost savings".

Michael Bax, of Kent Community Energy, said: "Later this year, we hope to install a charger for electric vehicles in their car park and further solar to help a coal-burning railway keep saving on carbon emissions."

It is the first rooftop project for the group.

The railway, which opened in 1927, is to cut the ribbon on the new installation on Friday.

The government has committed up to £1bn of funding for local energy projects such as solar panels on community buildings.

"We are going further and faster in getting off the fossil fuel rollercoaster and onto clean homegrown power we control, because it is the only route to lower bills for good," a government spokesperson said.


Re: A week back in the UK
In "The Lighter Side" [375427/32057/30]
Posted by RobT at 13:35, 24th May 2026
 
7. Trowbridge.

Kent rail line closes for nine days for upgrade work - May 2026
In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [375426/32065/51]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 13:27, 24th May 2026
 
From the BBC:

Rail line closes for nine days for upgrade work

A railway line in Kent has closed for nine days so that upgrade works can be completed.

The line between Borough Green & Wrotham and Ashford International, via Maidstone East, will be closed until 31 May as Network Rail complete works for the "long-term reliability" of the line.

During the closure, buses will replace trains with services running from Borough Green to London and also from Ashford. Stations that will have no service include West Malling, Bearsted and Lenham.

Passengers have also been told they can use services from Maidstone West to Paddock Wood to connect with services to London, which is 17 minutes quicker than using a bus and train to the capital.

Works will include improving drainage in the Wheeler Street tunnel between Maidstone East and Bearstead, replacing nearly 2,500 yards of track between Harrietsham and Charing, and the replacement of the level crossing at Ryarsh Lane near West Malling.

The line had to partially close in 2021 after a landslip in the Bearsted area.

(BBC article continues)


Pakistan: Blast targeting train kills at least 20 - 24 May 2026
In "The Wider Picture Overseas" [375425/32064/52]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 12:41, 24th May 2026
 
From the BBC:

Blast targeting train kills at least 20 in Pakistan

At least 20 people have been killed and 70 others injured in an explosion targeting a train transporting military personnel in Pakistan.

The blast occurred while the train was travelling through Chaman Phatak station in Quetta, the capital of the western Balochistan region, on Sunday morning.

Railway officials told BBC Urdu that three coaches and the engine were derailed while two were overturned. The shuttle service had primarily been transporting service personnel and their families who had been returning home for Eid.

The Balochistan Liberation Army (BLA) separatist group claimed responsibility for the attack, saying it was a suicide bombing. Pakistani officials have not yet confirmed this.

(BBC article continues)


 
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