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Re: Bus fare cap - ongoing issue, merged posts
In "Buses and other ways to travel" [377290/26638/5]
Posted by grahame at 06:26, 22nd July 2026
 
https://www.bbc.com/news/live/cdx7z2wwe7qt

Prime Minister Andy Burnham says no one should be "priced out" or "left behind" when it comes to affordable transport links after announcing bus fares in England will be capped at £2.

"For too long people have said that cheaper transport isn't an option. I don't accept that. I've done it before and I will do it again now: a £2 cap on bus fares for millions across the country," he says in a statement.

"Lower fares will help people get to where they need to - giving them breathing space to help with the cost of living."

Thank you.  What about a train fare cap, or is that different?

Re: Station fire at Paignton. Footbridge?
In "Shorter journeys in Devon - Central, North and South" [377289/32262/24]
Posted by grahame at 05:44, 22nd July 2026
 
No trains to Paignton on Wednesday either.   However a “limited” train shuttle will run between Newton Abbot and Torquay, calling at Torre.

Reading the maps, there's probably not a crossover available, nor are the lines signalled bi-directional, so it's going to be a mashup, a pilotman, very "special" ...

Re: WOMAD comes to Wiltshire - nearest station, Melksham, July 2026
In "TransWilts line - Swindon, Chippenham, Melksham, Trowbridge, Westbury, Salisbury" [377288/31642/18]
Posted by grahame at 05:39, 22nd July 2026
 
Faresaver are running a shuttle bus between the site and Chippenham station, timetabled as 30 mins; £10 for a single:
https://womad.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2026/06/WOMAD-W1-2026-PUBLIC.pdf
...or alight at Bath and only pay £3 for the regular 27x bus. Although you've got to walk from the station to the (temporary) Guildhall bus stop, and from the Atworth Neston Park Lodge bus stop to the site; both are less than half a mile I think.
It wouldn't take many festival-goers and their camping gear to fill the 27X, which wouldn't go down well with its normal users.

One of our (MTUG - Kev our treasurer) members is going to walk across to Melksham Station for train arrivals / redirect people who arrive un-encouraged at the nearest railway station to WOMAD.  We know it would not cope, nor would the local taxi / private hire / even bus operators is we made a song and dance about being closest.   But at about 4 miles from the site, Melksham is the closest, and the only one I would walk. We regularly get arrivals who have found Melksham  Station based on it being closest to their final destination (from online research) and stand outside the station looking lost asking "where are the taxis" ...

It's a real "shout" that Information at the Station" is needed ... though failure to gain CCIF funding has allowed that project to revert to proper timing; you will hear more in the late summer and autumn rather than us rising for an "al done" by 31st Match 2027.   New timescale makes more sense, not us forcing ourselves into out funder's stipulation.

Bus fares away from scheduled local services are interesting; the shuttle to the festival is not the only fare here in Wiltshire to be substantially higher than the £3 cap.  The £3 capped fares are regular services and allow the costs to be spread over a daily year round operation, where a festival weekend is a short, sharp and awkward series of journeys for bus operators. 

Yes - by all means people can catch the 271/2/3 and I expect a few will ... but it would be irresponsible marketing on our part to promote the option widely for the process out-of-area.

Re: Station fire at Paignton. Footbridge?
In "Shorter journeys in Devon - Central, North and South" [377287/32262/24]
Posted by bobm at 03:28, 22nd July 2026
 
No trains to Paignton on Wednesday either.   However a “limited” train shuttle will run between Newton Abbot and Torquay, calling at Torre.

Re: Swindon <-> Westbury service updates and amendments, ongoing discussion - 2026
In "TransWilts line - Swindon, Chippenham, Melksham, Trowbridge, Westbury, Salisbury" [377286/31359/18]
Posted by TaplowGreen at 21:00, 21st July 2026
 
20:12 Swindon to Westbury due 20:56
20:12 Swindon to Westbury due 20:56 is being delayed at Swindon.
This is due to congestion.

Re: RMT union plans rail strikes over train safety concerns at East Midlands Railway
In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [377285/32266/51]
Posted by TaplowGreen at 20:58, 21st July 2026
 
Very unlike the RMT to threaten a strike?   

Re: WOMAD comes to Wiltshire - nearest station, Melksham, July 2026
In "TransWilts line - Swindon, Chippenham, Melksham, Trowbridge, Westbury, Salisbury" [377284/31642/18]
Posted by Ralph Ayres at 20:11, 21st July 2026
 
Faresaver are running a shuttle bus between the site and Chippenham station, timetabled as 30 mins; £10 for a single:
https://womad.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2026/06/WOMAD-W1-2026-PUBLIC.pdf
...or alight at Bath and only pay £3 for the regular 27x bus. Although you've got to walk from the station to the (temporary) Guildhall bus stop, and from the Atworth Neston Park Lodge bus stop to the site; both are less than half a mile I think.
It wouldn't take many festival-goers and their camping gear to fill the 27X, which wouldn't go down well with its normal users.

Re: MOVED: Station fire at Paignton. Footbridge?
In "Shorter journeys in Plymouth and Cornwall" [377283/32265/25]
Posted by grahame at 20:10, 21st July 2026
 

Correct move, thank you - I think I was all thumbs when I started the thread this morning!

Re: Station fire at Paignton. Footbridge?
In "Shorter journeys in Devon - Central, North and South" [377282/32262/24]
Posted by grahame at 20:08, 21st July 2026
 
Paignton signaller had to evacuate and stop the 1st train of the day using hand signals.

Thank goodness for local signallers.  Would not have been so easy if the signaller was sat at a desk in Didcot.

Re: RMT union plans rail strikes over train safety concerns at East Midlands Railway
In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [377281/32266/51]
Posted by ChrisB at 20:03, 21st July 2026
 
Hmmm. Is that an 810 depicted?

Re: Ryanair - routes, schedules, incidents and issues (merged posts)
In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [377280/29076/51]
Posted by JayMac at 19:36, 21st July 2026
Already liked by PrestburyRoad
 
I don't think it's very wise for an airline boss to pre-empt the NTSB* investigation.



* The US's National Transportation Safety Board are leading the investigation, having been invited to do so by Greece's Hellenic Air and Rail Safety Investigation Authority.

RMT union plans rail strikes over train safety concerns at East Midlands Railway
In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [377279/32266/51]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 19:11, 21st July 2026
 
From the BBC:

Union plans rail strikes over train safety concerns


The RMT union said it had been in dispute with East Midlands Railway since April following the rollout of its 810 fleet - Image © Getty Images

A union that represents railway staff has announced plans for its members at East Midlands Railway (EMR) to take strike action over "growing safety concerns the company has failed to address".

The RMT union said it had been in dispute with EMR since April following the rollout of the 810 fleet (Aurora), which it said had been operating with a "significant number" of faults.  It said its members planned to take strike action on Saturday 1 August and the following two Saturdays.

An EMR spokesperson said any suggestion that the Hitachi Rail Class 810 fleet did not meet the required safety standards was "incorrect", and added it continued "to engage in discussions with RMT regarding this dispute".

Last week, EMR said reliability and maintenance issues with the new Aurora (Class 810) trains - made by Hitachi Rail - were to blame.

EMR has also outlined "challenges" with both the 810s and the older Class 222s, affecting the toilets, air conditioning and catering equipment.  It added the Class 222 trains had also required "additional maintenance support to accommodate increased running and operational requirements".

The operator first introduced the Aurora trains into passenger service in December, after what EMR said was a three-year delay.

According to the RMT, EMR has been sending trains into service that are "likely to fail and require a full reset which leaves the train with no active safety systems".

The BBC has seen an operational briefing, which informs control, signalling and operations staff about undertaking an Aux Off / Aux On reset on EMR class 810 units - which may be required to recover certain faults.

"The process takes approximately 20 minutes and results in the temporary loss of several safety-critical systems, creating an increased risk of an uncontrolled evacuation and removing the driver's normal means of communication with the signaller," it states.

Eddie Dempsey, RMT general secretary, said RMT reps at EMR had been "extremely patient" and tried to engage with management.  "The company has even put out safety notices with no involvement, consultation or negotiation with our reps who represent those most at risk.  RMT is demanding that whilst these faults exist and until these trains are shown to be operating properly, they should be taken out of service," he said.

An EMR spokesperson said the Hitachi Rail Class 810 fleet entered passenger service after "successfully completing all required testing and meeting rigorous safety standards".

"We recognise the Class 810 fleet has encountered performance and reliability issues in service and are working with the manufacturer, Hitachi Rail, to resolve these issues as quickly as possible," the spokesperson added.

EMR said the rollout of the new Class 810 fleet would continue "in a controlled manner" throughout the rest of the year and 2027.

A Hitachi Rail spokesperson said: "The Class 810 fleet has been in passenger service with East Midlands Railway since December 2025, and more than a third of the fleet has now been delivered.

"Hitachi Rail continues to work closely with all industry partners during the entry-into-service phase of the Class 810 fleet, implementing improvements and supporting the transition from the existing fleet to new Aurora trains.

"We remain focused on delivering the remainder of the fleet and supporting East Midlands Railway as more new trains enter passenger service. As part of this commitment, we are investing in additional testing activity at Long Marston Rail Innovation Centre to improve fleet introduction and delivery of the remaining trains."


Re: Andy Burnham has become Prime Minister, with a strong transport reputation
In "Looking forward - the next 2, 5, 10 and 20 years" [377278/32149/40]
Posted by JayMac at 18:51, 21st July 2026
Already liked by Mark A, eightonedee, chuffed
 
Can we have a No.10 of the west as well please Andy?

I fear the focus on levelling up the north will be to the detriment of the west and south west.




If you're looking for locations Mr Burnham, one of the flats in my block here in Taunton is vacant. Flat 10, so its already got the number on the door.

Re: WOMAD comes to Wiltshire - nearest station, Melksham, July 2026
In "TransWilts line - Swindon, Chippenham, Melksham, Trowbridge, Westbury, Salisbury" [377277/31642/18]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 18:05, 21st July 2026
 
Perhaps rather belatedly, I've now added this topic to the Coffee Shop forum calendar.

CfN. 

MOVED: Station fire at Paignton. Footbridge?
In "Shorter journeys in Plymouth and Cornwall" [377276/32265/25]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 17:56, 21st July 2026

MOVED: Station fire at Paignton. Footbridge?
In "Shorter journeys in South and West Wales" [377275/32264/23]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 17:35, 21st July 2026
 
This topic has been moved to Shorter journeys in Plymouth and Cornwall.

https://www.firstgreatwestern.info/coffeeshop/index.php?topic=32262.0

To my mortal embarrassment, I didn't even get that move right.  Now resolved.

CfN. 

Re: Swindon <-> Westbury service updates and amendments, ongoing discussion - 2026
In "TransWilts line - Swindon, Chippenham, Melksham, Trowbridge, Westbury, Salisbury" [377274/31359/18]
Posted by grahame at 16:48, 21st July 2026
 
17:50 Gloucester to Salisbury due 20:06

17:50 Gloucester to Salisbury due 20:06 will be started from Swindon.
It will no longer call at Gloucester, Stonehouse, Stroud and Kemble.
This is due to a safety inspection of the track earlier today.

Re: Ryanair - routes, schedules, incidents and issues (merged posts)
In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [377273/29076/51]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 16:07, 21st July 2026
 
From the BBC:

Ryanair broken window may have been caused by 'foreign object'

An incident on a Ryanair flight which saw a passenger partially sucked out of a plane window may have been caused by "foreign object damage" to an engine, said the airline's boss.

Michael O'Leary said an initial investigation into the incident on 10 July between Greece and Germany suggests "it looks like a foreign object damage to the engine on takeoff at Thessaloniki but ... we can't say that definitively".

He insisted that the engine on the 18-year-old Boeing 737 plane had been fully serviced and overhauled in the past two years.

Serbian national Ljubisa Karović's head and right shoulder were sucked out of the plane's window, leaving him "seriously injured and in shock".

His wife Svetlana Grković Maksimović told BBC Serbia that she and two other passengers held on to his legs for several minutes.  She said: "We pulled him back together. His entire face was deformed and blood was pouring from his nose and mouth."

He was taken to hospital after the plane made an emergency landing.

Passengers told local media they heard "some kind of explosion" on board.

The aircraft was operated by Ryanair's subsidiary Malta Air.

Confirmation that the damage was caused by an external object could affect Ryanair or Boeing's liabilities over the incident.

The US National Transportation Safety Board (NTSB) is investigating. O'Leary said that a draft report would be issued in about 28 days.


Re: Station fire at Paignton. Footbridge?
In "Shorter journeys in Devon - Central, North and South" [377272/32262/24]
Posted by plymothian at 16:03, 21st July 2026
 
Initial belief when discovered is it was caused by arson.
Paignton signaller had to evacuate and stop the 1st train of the day using hand signals.

Re: WOMAD comes to Wiltshire - nearest station, Melksham, July 2026
In "TransWilts line - Swindon, Chippenham, Melksham, Trowbridge, Westbury, Salisbury" [377271/31642/18]
Posted by JohnM at 14:55, 21st July 2026
Already liked by Mark A
 
Faresaver are running a shuttle bus between the site and Chippenham station, timetabled as 30 mins; £10 for a single:
https://womad.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2026/06/WOMAD-W1-2026-PUBLIC.pdf
...or alight at Bath and only pay £3 for the regular 27x bus. Although you've got to walk from the station to the (temporary) Guildhall bus stop, and from the Atworth Neston Park Lodge bus stop to the site; both are less than half a mile I think.

Re: Swindon <-> Westbury service updates and amendments, ongoing discussion - 2026
In "TransWilts line - Swindon, Chippenham, Melksham, Trowbridge, Westbury, Salisbury" [377270/31359/18]
Posted by TaplowGreen at 13:05, 21st July 2026
 
12:17 Westbury to Swindon due 13:05
12:17 Westbury to Swindon due 13:05 is being delayed at Westbury.
This is due to this train being late from the depot.

13:14 Swindon to Westbury due 13:57
13:14 Swindon to Westbury due 13:57 will be starting late from Swindon.
This is due to this train being late from the depot.

Re: Thames Valley infrastructure problems causing disruption elsewhere - 2026
In "Across the West" [377269/31163/26]
Posted by TaplowGreen at 13:02, 21st July 2026
 
Cancellations to services between London Paddington and Reading

Due to a safety inspection of the track between London Paddington and Reading fewer trains are able to run on some lines.

Train services running to and from these stations will be cancelled or delayed. Disruption is expected until 14:00 21/07.

Customer Advice
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What has happened?
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We have had a report of a defect with the track between London Paddington and Reading. Trains may not be able to run over the affected line until it has been inspected or may have to run at reduced speed.
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What are we doing about it?
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The problem affects two of the four lines between London Paddington and Reading, so we are having to reduce the train service through the area to avoid congestion.
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Some services between London Paddington and Oxford, will not run, in either direction.

Re: North Cotswold line delays and cancellations - 2026
In "London to the Cotswolds" [377268/31371/14]
Posted by Witham Bobby at 12:43, 21st July 2026
 
21/07/2026

More news from the crumbling edge of quality otherwise known as the London to Worcester and Hereford route

According to RTT:

1P26 1316 Worcester Shrub Hill to Paddington was cancelled between Worcester Shrub Hill and Moreton-in-Marsh due to the planned train being replaced with a slower train

The down working, 1W21 1053 Paddington to Worcester Shrub Hill is in trouble, at present 36 minutes late off Charlbury

Re: Bridge hit - again "Freshford" = Limpley Stoke?
In "Portsmouth to Cardiff" [377267/32077/20]
Posted by John D at 12:43, 21st July 2026
Already liked by Witham Bobby, PrestburyRoad, GBM, chipbury, Mark A, Fourbee, Chris from Nailsea
 
It's worth scrolling to the bottom of the councillors update and clicking on the two links (meeting minutes / meeting slides), they give a good insight to the saga.

Thanks for that - really informative and well spotted.

Also, I'd not reallsed that bridge heights and the fit beneath them were approached in a way that reminds me of... did anyone when very small have that child's puzzle that consisted of a plastic drum with a lid with various shaped holes in it - and a set of plastic shapes that needed to be pushed rather firmly through their respective apertures?

With those minimum clearance tolerances it rather sounds as though a combination of a vehicle that just passes beneath a bridge and a piece of debris on the road could precipitate a bridge strike. Now reading the notes and slides again to see if it's really the case that the notes say the clearance as signed is more than the bridge provides.

Mark
Yes appears it is 4289mm or 4297mm depending on how it is measured.   But this is spot clearance, and doesn't take into account road is higher beyond the bridge.

But to allow for suspension variation etc, traffic sign manual requires a minimum of 80mm and a round down to next 0.1m

However it seems because road is higher one end, should use 16m chord (basically length of HGV with 40foot container), and using this should be signed as 3.9m (or 12'9" as imperial rounds down in 3 inch increments), whereas some current signs show warning as 4.2m

Although Wiltshire seemed oblivious as to why more trucks were using it, they seem not to have noticed additional delays on A350 (they widen bits, but move problem delay along road, not remove it).  Sat Nav's will usually route via quickest route (so regularly avoid A350) regardless of suitability of the road.  Also Bath has also added weight restriction on the A36 bridge forcing big trucks to take alternative route.  Unclear to me why Wiltshire Highways can't work that out.

Re: WOMAD comes to Wiltshire - nearest station, Melksham, July 2026
In "TransWilts line - Swindon, Chippenham, Melksham, Trowbridge, Westbury, Salisbury" [377266/31642/18]
Posted by JohnM at 12:07, 21st July 2026
 
Faresaver are running a shuttle bus between the site and Chippenham station, timetabled as 30 mins; £10 for a single:
https://womad.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2026/06/WOMAD-W1-2026-PUBLIC.pdf


Re: Station fire at Paignton. Footbridge?
In "Shorter journeys in Devon - Central, North and South" [377265/32262/24]
Posted by Phantom at 11:45, 21st July 2026
 
https://www.devonlive.com/news/devon-news/paignton-fire-what-means-gwr-11069269


Re: North Cotswold line delays and cancellations - 2026
In "London to the Cotswolds" [377264/31371/14]
Posted by Witham Bobby at 11:42, 21st July 2026
 
Tuesday 21/07/2026

Cancelled today, according to RTT:

1W11 0553 Paddington to Great Malvern cancelled from Oxford because of a fault with the traction equipment

so

1P18 0856 Great Malvern to Paddington did not run

and, from GW JourneyCheck:

16:58 London Paddington to Great Malvern due 19:25 will be cancelled.
This is due to a shortage of train crew.
Last Updated:21/07/2026 07:29

19:45 Great Malvern to London Paddington due 22:24 will be cancelled.
This is due to a shortage of train crew.
Last Updated:21/07/2026 07:29


Guyana - At least 27 dead and 83 missing after passenger ferry capsizes
In "The Wider Picture Overseas" [377263/32263/52]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 10:42, 21st July 2026
 
From the BBC:

At least 27 dead and 83 missing after passenger ferry capsizes off Guyana


A search and rescue operation for dozens of missing people continued on Sunday - Image © Prime Minister Mark Phillips / Facebook

At least 27 people have drowned after a passenger ferry capsized off the coast of Guyana on Saturday night local time.

Sixty-nine people aboard the MV Barima had been rescued, Prime Minister Mark Phillips told reporters on Monday, adding 83 more remained missing.

Divers continue to search the site where the vessel capsized and people who believe their loved ones may have been on board the stricken vessel have been asked to contact the authorities.  "Our focus again is on finding people," said Phillips. "We still have hope."

An investigation into the tragedy had been launched, he said earlier.  "Let me be absolutely clear: where negligence, misconduct or criminal wrongdoing is established, those responsible will face the full force of the law," he said.

Guyana's Public Works Minister, Juan Edghill, expressed his anger at a news conference on Sunday, accusing those who operated the ferry of trying to "cheat the system".  The official registry had listed 133 as being on board the ferry, but Phillips said on Monday he was now "confident" there were 179 people.  Edghill also said the ferry's captain and at least one crew member had tested positive for cannabis.

"We have zero tolerance for members of the crew drinking or smoking while at work. And for us to have positive tests from the captain... this is serious," the minister said.  He added the captain and several of his crew had been taken into police custody.

(BBC article continues)


Re: Sssshh - don't tell the customers what's really going on ...
In "Smoke and Mirrors" [377262/32258/3]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 10:05, 21st July 2026
 

And what is a TASC??


TASC is a Track And Service Car: A specialized on-track maintenance vehicle used for railway track work (such as the Plasser & Theurer TASC-45).

I'm adding it to our Coffee Shop forum 'abbreviations and acronyms' page. 

Re: Station fire at Paignton. Footbridge?
In "Shorter journeys in Devon - Central, North and South" [377261/32262/24]
Posted by bradshaw at 10:03, 21st July 2026
 
Journey Check at 09.51 - Fire seems to be out but no trains until tomorrow

. A fire has broken out at Paignton Station, affecting signalling and surrounding infrastructure. Local news sources report that the fire is now out, but due to the nature of the damage, we will not be running trains on this route today. Please kindly note, Paignton station remains closed to the public.

 
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