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Re: Cambridge Guided Busway - ongoing discussion and updates
In "Buses and other ways to travel" [368846/3987/5]
Posted by eightonedee at 23:15, 2nd December 2025
 
Here's an idea - why not convert it to a railway line    >

Re: 07:00 Manchester - Euston
In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [368845/31168/51]
Posted by broadgage at 22:18, 2nd December 2025
 
From the BBC:


Regulator backtracks on 'ghost train' plan

What a farce 

A cynic might wonder which MP's, BBC execs & senior civil servants were regular users of the train.

An uber-cynic might wonder if the ORR had been set-up to fail on this one and fell for the bait!

I know not to whom you could possibly be referring.

Re: AI videos simulating railway accidents
In "Media about railways, and other means of transport" [368844/31188/49]
Posted by broadgage at 22:01, 2nd December 2025
 
This sort of thing should not be encouraged, except PERHAPS as a training aid for railway staff and the emergency services.
Viewing such fakes may encourage foolish risk taking on the REAL railway.

Re: AI videos simulating railway accidents
In "Media about railways, and other means of transport" [368843/31188/49]
Posted by ChrisB at 20:58, 2nd December 2025
 
Obviously not looking in the right place....

Those pigs look like that Pink Floyd cover went wrong.... Are they meant to be real?

Re: Buses and coaches bursting into flames - why are they apparently so combustible? (merged topic)
In "Buses and other ways to travel" [368841/7528/5]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 20:07, 2nd December 2025
 
From the BBC:

Roads closed around Southgate Avenue in Crawley after fire destroys bus


Pictures at the scene show the bus has been completely destroyed

A cordon has been put in place and nearby buildings evacuated after a bus caught fire in Sussex.

West Sussex Fire and Rescue Service was called to Southgate Avenue in Crawley on Tuesday afternoon.

Police said emergency services would remain on scene "for some time".

The force said the evacuations were a precaution, but people were being asked to avoid the area.


Police said roads would be closed "for some time" and people should avoid the area


Re: AI videos simulating railway accidents
In "Media about railways, and other means of transport" [368840/31188/49]
Posted by IndustryInsider at 19:54, 2nd December 2025
Already liked by Mark A, Timmer
 
Very much seeing them everywhere.  The line between reality and fantasy getting very blurry.

AI videos simulating railway accidents
In "Media about railways, and other means of transport" [368839/31188/49]
Posted by grahame at 19:47, 2nd December 2025
 
On my social media ... I am seeing a trend towards "horror" AI videos showing destruction such as rail crashes that have never taken place.  Along with lion and crocodile attacks.  Just me, or others seeing these too?  These are stills from videos - not sure whether to post even these



Suffolk MP's call for Essex station platform lifts at Marks Tey turned down
In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [368838/31187/51]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 19:41, 2nd December 2025
 
From the BBC:


Marks Tey station in Essex has been labelled the least accessible station on the Greater Anglia network

An MP's call to make a train station accessible has been turned down by a government minister.

James Cartlidge, Conservative MP for South Suffolk, wrote to the government in October asking for lift access to be installed between all platforms at Marks Tey train station, near Colchester in Essex. He said the lack of step-free access between the Sudbury branch line and the main line was causing difficulties for many of his constituents with disabilities or those travelling with heavy luggage.

Addressing the letter, Lord Peter Hendy, the rail minister, said there were "no current plans" for such a scheme at Marks Tey and suggested getting financial contributions from developers. "Ensuring the accessibility for all passengers is at the heart of our passenger-focussed approach," Lord Hendy said. "However, I am sorry to advise that there are no current plans for an accessibility scheme at Marks Tey."

He suggested securing financial contributions from developers to ease pressures around accessibility, as well as engaging with key stakeholders to ensure Marks Tey was a priority in any future rounds of government funding.

Mr Cartlidge's letter came against the background of the government bringing Greater Anglia into public ownership, under the control of the Department for Transport. The MP said he was disappointed, but promised to continue calling for a lift to be installed, the Local Democracy Reporting Service said. "Ultimately, my constituents travelling from Sudbury use the interchange to access the main line, so the issue of accessibility must be addressed," he said.

It is not the first time Mr Cartlidge has raised this issue, having campaigned for improved accessibility at the station for several years alongside Dame Priti Patel, MP for Witham.


Re: Cambridge Guided Busway - ongoing discussion and updates
In "Buses and other ways to travel" [368837/3987/5]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 19:23, 2nd December 2025
 
From the BBC:

Fewer busway passengers after speed limit lowered



Fewer passengers have been using a guided busway since speed limits were lowered as part of a raft of new safety measures.

The limit on Cambridgeshire's network - where three people have died - was reduced to a blanket 30mph (48km/h) in October while permanent fencing works were carried out.

Meeting documents sent to Cambridgeshire County Council's highways and transport committee stated passenger numbers were "down due to the increased journey time".

While bus companies Stagecoach and Whippet said they were "supportive" of the fencing works, they "expressed concern over the longer-term impact of the current works," the papers added.

The guided busway takes a modified bus along a dedicated track - in some sections previously up to a speed of 56mph (90km/h) - and serves Cambridge, St Ives and Huntingdon.

Jennifer Taylor, Steve Moir and Kathleen Pitts were killed in collisions on the Cambridgeshire Busway between 2015 and 2021.

The county council was fined £6m earlier this year after the deaths, and a judge criticised the authority for its "rigid and blinkered response" to the fatalities.

In meeting documents, the authority said speed monitoring was currently underway, and on-bus equipment also governed speed. "The increased journey times can have an impact on the attractiveness of busway services and have resulted in operational difficulties for the bus companies," it continued.

David Boden, commercial director of Stagecoach East, said: "We are fully supportive of works to ensure safety, but, in delivering these works, every effort needs to be made to minimise as far as possible the impact on busway customers. At our most recent data, we are down 6.8% year-on-year on Busway A customers and 8.6% on Busway B customers. This is a result of the significantly increased journey times caused by the works. This increase in journey time, of between 40 and 50 minutes, has seen us introduce three extra buses, and our team put in huge efforts, to try and offer a guaranteed frequency where we can, and also to ensure that Trumpington Park & Ride to the Biomedical Campus has sufficient buses."

He apologised for the impact on customers and said it was working with stakeholders to ensure the works were delivered as quickly as possible. He also asked other infrastructure providers to think about the scheduling of their work while the fencing was being installed.

The Tiger T1 service run by Whippet, which takes passengers from Huntingdon to Cambridge, "has been able to largely maintain the previous journey frequencies", but passenger numbers were down, council documents said. "However, both companies are supportive of the fencing works and welcome the safety benefit it will bring."

Whippet has been contacted for further comment.


MP bemused by lack of Ely North rail junction upgrade
In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [368836/31186/51]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 19:10, 2nd December 2025
 
From the BBC:


An MP has been left "quite bemused" about why a major rail junction upgrade still has not happened.

For 25 years campaigners have argued that improving Ely North Junction in Cambridgeshire would make it possible to run more freight and passenger services and help grow the local economy.

The local Liberal Democrat MP Charlotte Cane claimed "for every £1 spent [the project is] likely to bring back nearly £5", ahead of hosting a debate in Parliament on Wednesday.

A Department for Transport (DfT) spokesperson said it recognised the scheme's importance and fully anticipated Ely North "will be part of a pipeline of projects to be considered as part of future funding decisions". They added: "There is a strong case for Ely Junction, and we are committed to working with a broad range of stakeholders to support its inclusion in the future pipeline."

Lines from Norwich, Cambridge, King's Lynn, Peterborough and Ipswich all meet at Ely North junction.

The project has received the go-ahead from previous governments on at least two occasions, but the work is yet to start.

In 2020, it was revealed the cost of the project had risen from £25m to £500m, while complicated engineering and a slowness to make decisions have also been blamed.


Five rail lines from across the East of England converge at Ely North junction

Cane, the MP for Ely and East Cambridgeshire, said she was hoping Wednesday's debate would "get across the real importance of this project".

She said it would take freight off the roads and benefit not only the local area but also "the Midlands and further north".

"It's an amazing project... I'm still quite bemused as to why it hasn't happened yet," she told BBC Radio Cambridgeshire.

The DfT said when the previous Government announced Network North - of which this scheme was a part - it did not set out any plans for how to fund it.


Re: Advent Quiz - 2nd December 2025
In "The Lighter Side" [368835/31182/30]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 18:32, 2nd December 2025
Already liked by grahame
 
Cough.

H.  Nailsea & Backwell.

CfN. 

Re: Advent Quiz - 2nd December 2025
In "The Lighter Side" [368834/31182/30]
Posted by grahame at 18:09, 2nd December 2025
 
I got A as soon as I saw it, but eightonedee had already seen it, about half an hour before me.

Specially for you, Chris

H.
Opened 14 June 1841

Closed for goods 1 July 1964

Around the time the Coffee Shop opened, it was served by two train operators but that's been reduced to just one now, though other operators including scheduled, special and freight trains pass through.

Current car park with 285 car parking spaces, six motorcycle spaces and a number of cycle racks.

Re: Caledonian MacBrayne ferries in Scotland
In "Buses and other ways to travel" [368833/30034/5]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 17:52, 2nd December 2025
 
From the BBC:

New delay for Turkish-built CalMac ferry MV Isle of Islay

The first of four new CalMac ferries being built in Turkey has been delayed again.

Caledonian Maritime Assets Ltd (CMAL) said it still hoped to take delivery of MV Isle of Islay before Christmas but warned this would be a "challenge".

CMAL had previously told MSPs it expected the ship to be handed over in November, before making the two-week voyage to Scotland.

The government-owned ferries agency says a number of issues are still being addressed before the ferry can be signed off by UK regulators.

MV Isle of Islay, which will will operate on the Kennacraig to Islay route, is the first of four 95m-long ferries being built for the CalMac fleet at the Turkish Cemre shipyard.

When the contract was awarded it was due for delivery in October last year, but construction has been hit by a series of delays which CMAL says were due to supply chain issues and labour shortages.

In an update letter to Holyrood's net zero, energy and transport committee, CMAL said the UK's Maritime and Coastguard Agency (MCA) carried out a final survey in the last week of October, and the shipyard is addressing issues that were raised. MCA inspectors are due to carry out another final survey on 8 December.

The update letter said: "If all completion activities go smoothly, the shipyard is targeting delivery of MV Isle of Islay prior to the Christmas period. This will be a challenge but CMAL, CalMac, Cemre and the regulatory authorities are all working hard and collaboratively towards reaching this target date for vessel delivery just before the Christmas holidays."

The journey to Scotland will involve a refuelling stop at Gibraltar and a journey across the Bay of Biscay. After arriving in Scotland, CalMac will carry out crew familiarisation and berthing trials at various ports before the ship enters service.

Work is continuing at the Cemre shipyard on MV Loch Indaal - also destined for the Islay route - and two other ferries MV Lochmor and MV Claymore will eventually serve the Western Isles.

CMAL said costs remained "on budget".


Re: Advent Quiz - 2nd December 2025
In "The Lighter Side" [368832/31182/30]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 17:34, 2nd December 2025
 
I got A as soon as I saw it, but eightonedee had already seen it, about half an hour before me.

Re: Tributes to boy, 14, who died after being hit by train - Nottinghamshire
In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [368831/31170/51]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 17:29, 2nd December 2025
 
From the BBC:

Level crossing under review when boy hit by train

A consultation on whether to close a footpath level crossing opened the day before a 14-year-old boy was fatally struck by a train, documents have shown.

Josh Travis died when he was struck by a train in Burton Joyce, Nottinghamshire, on Wednesday.

Network Rail had applied to Nottinghamshire County Council to close the Chestnut Grove level crossing on safety grounds in March, warning it posed a "very real risk of serious incident".

As part of the application to "extinguish the public right of way", authority launched a consultation on 25 November. The council has been contacted for comment.

Josh's death is not being treated as suspicious, and the Rail Accident Investigation Branch said it was conducting a "preliminary examination".

Tributes, including dozens of floral messages, have since been left at the level crossing.

Network Rail added on Thursday that the council had agreed to an emergency closure of the footpath, which would initially be in place for 21 days. A document submitted as part of the application from Network Rail to the council said there was a "very real risk of a serious incident at Chestnut Grove level crossing if it remains open".

The report confirmed that, as of March 2025, there had been 19 near-misses at the crossing since 2020. It added a near-miss in this instance was an event in which the train driver had to apply the emergency brake for fear of hitting a person who was crossing. "Misuse occurs on a daily basis and it is only a matter of time before a person is hit at the crossing," it stated.

The report detailed that Network Rail had submitted "repeated applications" to the county council to temporarily stop the public right of way over the crossing to remove the risk to users while permanent solutions were explored.

Mark Budden, Network Rail's route director, East Midlands, said: "Our thoughts remain with the family and friends affected by this tragic incident. Safety is our top priority, and we are supporting the Rail Accident Investigation Branch in its inquiries.

"The level crossing is a public right of way, and Network Rail does not have the legal powers to close it - that decision rests with the local highways authority and needs a formal application and public consultation. We submitted an application in spring this year to close the level crossing on safety grounds, and the council had recently launched a public consultation for this."


(BBC article continues)


Re: Advent Quiz - 2nd December 2025
In "The Lighter Side" [368830/31182/30]
Posted by grahame at 17:29, 2nd December 2025
Already liked by Chris from Nailsea
 
All correct:

A Kennet and Avon Canal - eightonedee
B East West Rail - Richard Fairhust
C Interrail - TonyN
D Bath Tranways - OxonHutch
E Waverley - old original
F Limeric / Waterford to Rosslare - stuving
G Cattistock Halt - bradshaw

I have another batch H up to some other letter ... sometime later this month?

Re: Failed Train at Bruton 2 Dec 2025
In "London to the West" [368829/31184/12]
Posted by grahame at 15:50, 2nd December 2025
 
I note that the train ran ecs to Westbury. What happened to any passengers?

Did they all go from the station down to The Blue Ball and still there?

It appears that the train from Yeovil to Filton came into Bruton just before 7 a.m. and ... moved on, empty, at 09:03. ... queueing behind it was a Waterloo train which picked presumably picked up most paasengers at 09:15, and a train to Bristol Temple Meads at 09:21.   Both running very late, but once the broken down train had left not a long extra wait. 

Re: That Flanders and Swann song...
In "Railway History and related topics" [368828/31181/55]
Posted by Mark A at 15:01, 2nd December 2025
 
Almost sixty years on, a Matlock to Chinley klaxon sometimes battles to make itself heard as it's potent enough to provoke some fairly weighty voices. Not a Beeching closure, more a product of the momentum of closing lines that had been gained by the closure programme of the mid-sixties, and also, the shadow cast by the various positive initiatives that the railways were able to launch at the time - did that shadow fall heavily on the steam-age railway to create a combination of circumstances that resulted in the loss of a major component of the railway's core infrastructure?

A friend recalls meeting a relative at Stockport Tiviotdale, at a time that the electrification of Euston to Manchester was in full swing and Tiviotdale was fielding the steam service to and from London - Tiviotdale giving the impression of something from a previous age, in poor repair, dark, soot-covered, shabby and generally at the end of its days (which indeed it was). A very big contrast to the world that was in process of arriving at Stockport's other station.

Mark

A rare bird indeed !!
In "Heritage railways, Railtours, buses, canals, steamships and other public transport based attractions" [368827/31185/47]
Posted by Clan Line at 14:34, 2nd December 2025
Already liked by PrestburyRoad, PhilWakely, brooklea, Western Pathfinder, Chris from Nailsea, Oxonhutch, broadgage, eightonedee
 
Passing Yarnbrook on the way to the Bath Christmas Market. Looked and sounded magnificent. Hauling 12 coaches and a 47 - made it look easy.




Re: North Cotswold line delays and cancellations - 2025
In "London to the Cotswolds" [368826/29711/14]
Posted by Worcester_Passenger at 14:25, 2nd December 2025
 
Tuesday December 2

1P18 07:13 Great Malvern to London Paddington : started from Foregate St (JC : "over-running engineering works", RTT : "late arrival of an inbound service (YI)" )

Re: Failed Train at Bruton 2 Dec 2025
In "London to the West" [368825/31184/12]
Posted by Witham Bobby at 13:58, 2nd December 2025
 
I note that the train ran ecs to Westbury. What happened to any passengers?

Did they all go from the station down to The Blue Ball and still there?

Re: Advent Quiz - 2nd December 2025
In "The Lighter Side" [368824/31182/30]
Posted by AMLAG at 13:56, 2nd December 2025
Already liked by grahame
 

E is the PS ‘Waverley’ claimed to be the last Ocean going Paddle steamer in the World.
 

Re: Failed Train at Bruton 2 Dec 2025
In "London to the West" [368823/31184/12]
Posted by bradshaw at 12:40, 2nd December 2025
 
I note that the train ran ecs to Westbury. What happened to any passengers?

Re: Advent Quiz - 2nd December 2025
In "The Lighter Side" [368822/31182/30]
Posted by bradshaw at 12:34, 2nd December 2025
Already liked by rogerw, Mark A, grahame
 
I lived in Maiden Newton for 20 years and played cricket for Cattistock whose pitch borders the line by the bridge.
When the halt closed Cattistock had a good bus service to Dorchester, which I used to get to the school in which I taught, before getting a rail season ticket. It was the lack of an alternative that kept Chetnole and Thornford open. In this way it was rather like the Bridport branch which was closed only when an alternative bus service could be sorted.
On transferring to teach at Bridport I used that bus daily until I moved to a village nearer to the school in 1996.
Now the branch trackbed provides a convenient footpath a few yards from our house.

Re: That Flanders and Swann song...
In "Railway History and related topics" [368821/31181/55]
Posted by grahame at 11:43, 2nd December 2025
Already liked by Western Pathfinder, Mark A
 
Under the "Creative Commons v2" license, I can share the map - origins at the post linked earlier in this thread ... and looking through the list of 31 stations mentioned, I have passed through / visited just 8 or 9 - mostly the ones still there.


Re: Advent Quiz - 2nd December 2025
In "The Lighter Side" [368820/31182/30]
Posted by grahame at 11:21, 2nd December 2025
Already liked by Witham Bobby, Mark A
 
I think F is the Dublin-Rosslare railway line.

Close but not a bullseye.

So it's Limerick-Rosslare that's your subject,then.

Indeed - though with much of the following text specific to the Waterford to Rosslare section.   Rosslare is a sad, sad story as far as rail is concerned ... it could (have been) be so much more with joined up thinking.  For sure the foot traffic is / has been thin through Fishguard and Rosslare but the way the routes have become hard and unfriendly to use are so sad and appear to be with little positive thought for the through customer.

Re: That Flanders and Swann song...
In "Railway History and related topics" [368819/31181/55]
Posted by grahame at 11:12, 2nd December 2025
Already liked by Mark A
 
Gosh, a very deep dive!

That song has come into my head a couple of times recently while waiting at St Erth for the train to St Ives.

Beeching's report probably got it about half-right, on balance. The half he got wrong will still be haunting us 100 years from now..

Some of the biggest travesties were lines proposed for retention but never the less closed - Oxford to Cambridge, trains to Swanage and to Kingswear, Cheltenham Spa to Stratford-upon-Avon.  Perhaps these haunt us even more than some of the Beeching proposals that were implemented such as Minehead, Tavistock and Portishead.

Yes - relieved for the current users that lines like St Ives, Exmouth and Avonmouth were saved though proposed for closure.

Re: That Flanders and Swann song...
In "Railway History and related topics" [368818/31181/55]
Posted by Red Squirrel at 10:56, 2nd December 2025
Already liked by Mark A
 
Gosh, a very deep dive!

That song has come into my head a couple of times recently while waiting at St Erth for the train to St Ives.

Beeching's report probably got it about half-right, on balance. The half he got wrong will still be haunting us 100 years from now..

Re: Advent Quiz - 2nd December 2025
In "The Lighter Side" [368817/31182/30]
Posted by stuving at 10:40, 2nd December 2025
 
I think F is the Dublin-Rosslare railway line.

Close but not a bullseye.

So it's Limerick-Rosslare that's your subject,then.

 
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