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Re: Railway disaster remembered after being lost in time - Witham, 1 September 1905 In "Railway History and related topics" [364976/30656/55] Posted by John D at 16:49, 31st August 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Liverpool Street to Cromer by direct train, that's a bit of nostalgia.
And if you change and get to Cromer, will find stop a bit short as most of the former railway facilities are now a Morrisons supermarket
Re: Railway disaster remembered after being lost in time - Witham, 1 September 1905 In "Railway History and related topics" [364975/30656/55] Posted by grahame at 16:03, 31st August 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Your link to the BBC isn't working 

Think it should be https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c4gz6pnlrgzo ...
Re: Railway disaster remembered after being lost in time - Witham, 1 September 1905 In "Railway History and related topics" [364974/30656/55] Posted by ChrisB at 15:59, 31st August 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Your link to the BBC isn't working

Re: 2025 - Service update and amendment log, Swindon <-> Westbury In "TransWilts line" [364973/29726/18] Posted by bobm at 15:31, 31st August 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Must have been down to lack of a guard as it ran empty from Swindon to Westbury.
Re: Solent Tunnel, between Hampshire and Isle of Wight In "Campaigns for new and improved services" [364972/30657/28] Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 14:48, 31st August 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Fair point: I've amended it to Hampshire. CfN.

From the BBC:
New walkway 'key milestone' for Botley Road timeline

A new walkway has opened in Oxford as part of a £231m project to upgrade the city station.
Network Rail said the four-metre wide walkway, which links Botley Road to Frideswide Square, would offer improvements with existing access and more space for pedestrians and cyclists.
The operator said it was "another key milestone" in reopening the road by the end of August 2026, after it was closed at the railway bridge since April 2023.
The scheme has been through several delays, leaving communities frustrated and leading to long-standing businesses experiencing a drop in sales. Some, such as Courtney Pianos, closed down.
Network Rail said cyclists would be asked to dismount while using the shared surface until next year for safety reasons.

The work at Botley Road was "vital to creating a bigger, better station" and "an improved and safer road layout", Network Rail said.
Western route managing director Marcus Jones said "we're on track to the new timeline we committed to earlier this year". Mr Jones said they were "pleased to have achieved this milestone" and thanked the local community and residents for their patience.
Anna Railton, deputy leader of Oxford City Council and cabinet member for a Zero Carbon Oxford, said the new path would "help to ease the flow of people in and around the area".
In June, rail minister Lord Hendy said some of the small businesses affected by the works would be eligible to receive one-off payments from an £850,000 government fund to "recognise the trouble the delays have caused".
Residents also said they were negatively affected by roads resurfacing works to transform Abbey Road, Cripley Road and Cripley Place into bus turning circles.
The next update session in Oxford will take place on 24 September at The King's Centre on Osney Mead.

A new walkway has opened in Oxford as part of a £231m project to upgrade the city station.
Network Rail said the four-metre wide walkway, which links Botley Road to Frideswide Square, would offer improvements with existing access and more space for pedestrians and cyclists.
The operator said it was "another key milestone" in reopening the road by the end of August 2026, after it was closed at the railway bridge since April 2023.
The scheme has been through several delays, leaving communities frustrated and leading to long-standing businesses experiencing a drop in sales. Some, such as Courtney Pianos, closed down.
Network Rail said cyclists would be asked to dismount while using the shared surface until next year for safety reasons.

The work at Botley Road was "vital to creating a bigger, better station" and "an improved and safer road layout", Network Rail said.
Western route managing director Marcus Jones said "we're on track to the new timeline we committed to earlier this year". Mr Jones said they were "pleased to have achieved this milestone" and thanked the local community and residents for their patience.
Anna Railton, deputy leader of Oxford City Council and cabinet member for a Zero Carbon Oxford, said the new path would "help to ease the flow of people in and around the area".
In June, rail minister Lord Hendy said some of the small businesses affected by the works would be eligible to receive one-off payments from an £850,000 government fund to "recognise the trouble the delays have caused".
Residents also said they were negatively affected by roads resurfacing works to transform Abbey Road, Cripley Road and Cripley Place into bus turning circles.
The next update session in Oxford will take place on 24 September at The King's Centre on Osney Mead.
Re: Solent Tunnel, between Hampshire and Isle of Wight In "Campaigns for new and improved services" [364970/30657/28] Posted by grahame at 14:31, 31st August 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Done! Split off and renamed. CfN. 

Can I be an awkward pedant - even more than normally.
Solent Tunnel, between England and Isle of Wight
Err - the Isle of Wight is part of England and the new title suggests it isn't ....Re: Solent Tunnel, between Hampshire and Isle of Wight In "Campaigns for new and improved services" [364969/30657/28] Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 13:06, 31st August 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Done! Split off and renamed. CfN.

Railway disaster remembered after being lost in time - Witham, 1 September 1905 In "Railway History and related topics" [364968/30656/55] Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 12:52, 31st August 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
From the BBC:

On the morning of 1 September 1905, a train left London Liverpool Street, bound for Cromer. As it approached Witham railway station, disaster struck.
Most of its 14 carriages left the tracks, sliding up the platform on their sides, even overturning completely.
Eleven people - including a 10-year-old girl - lost their lives in the crash, with more than 70 injured.
But further catastrophe was just moments away as another train approached at speed, heading for the wreckage.
The quick reactions of a signalman and his colleagues prevented even greater loss of life.
More than a century later, their brave actions - and the lives lost on that day - will be commemorated for the first time.
The 09:27 service de-railed as it reached Witham station around an hour into its journey, causing a scene of devastation.
One carriage hit the platform and slid on its side into a wooden hut - a second carriage caught fire when gas tanks underneath ruptured.
A third overturned completely - the weight of its heavy iron framework and wheels crushing the upper timber section, killing nine passengers inside.
A tenth passenger in another carriage was also killed, along with a porter. Some of the victims could only be partially identified by letters which they had in their pockets. Others remained unidentified.
Sixty-six passengers were also injured in the crash, along with five members of staff.
But the danger was not over.

One of the carriages slid along the platform on its side into a wooden hut

One of the carriages overturned, with the weight of the iron framework crushing the wooden upper structure
An oncoming train from Cromer to London was approaching Witham at speed, oblivious to what had happened.
Signalman Ben Sainty - along with his colleagues Fred Parrish and Thomas Bannister - leapt into action.
Ben quickly changed the signals from Clear to Danger, which the train driver thankfully saw in enough time to stop a few hundred yards away from the station. Its passengers - including the Norwich City football team and their manager - disembarked and helped the survivors.
An inquiry initially said the cause of the crash was due to plate layers removing a piece of track and not replacing it in time.
Local historian John Palombi told the BBC that the train driver said afterwards that he could see men working on the tracks until getting out of the way at the very last second.
"Those plate layers were later discharged as nothing was proven that they had done anything wrong," he said. "If it wasn't for the really rapid and quick reactions… from those signalmen, it would have been a much worse disaster," Mr Palombi added.
(BBC News article continues)
Quality control - train staff checking the food and drink offering In "The Wider Picture Overseas" [364967/30655/52] Posted by grahame at 12:32, 31st August 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
From Malay Mail
Luxury Japanese sleeper train cancels trip after crew help themselves to the wine in the name of quality control
TOKYO, Aug 23 — The operator of a Japanese luxury sleeper train said it has scrapped an upcoming journey after discovering its crew had been liberally helping themselves to alcohol in the name of “quality control” for years.
“Some of the crew were repeatedly drinking more than they were allowed to as part of their routine quality control testing,” said a subsidiary of the East Japan Railway Company, commonly known as JR East.
TOKYO, Aug 23 — The operator of a Japanese luxury sleeper train said it has scrapped an upcoming journey after discovering its crew had been liberally helping themselves to alcohol in the name of “quality control” for years.
“Some of the crew were repeatedly drinking more than they were allowed to as part of their routine quality control testing,” said a subsidiary of the East Japan Railway Company, commonly known as JR East.
We used to encourage our staff to see things as the customers did to help ensure the best customer experience. Things like settling on the loos in our bedrooms to check what the customer saw. Eating the food sometimes too - but we were not licensed for alcohol. And, yes, we were aware of the temptation to oversupply at breakfast to ensure there were left-overs, but a temptation only given in to with known discretion and limited frequency.
Felletin - the bullet once avoided, and to be avoided again, at Melksham In "TransWilts line" [364966/30654/18] Posted by grahame at 11:16, 31st August 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
https://grahamellis.uk/blog1705.html
Barring a miracle, today (written 31.8.2025) is the last day of train service to Aubesson and Felletin in France.
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I think back to Melksham's train service and the period from 2006 to 2013 when we, too, had just 2 trains a day with the "too early, too late" 'joke' that was no joke. 3,000 passenger journeys a year sounded a lot - until you worked out that it was 1 or 2 people getting on or off each train - similar to I saw in Felletin.
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Since 2013, we have come so far forward, but we have faded back on unreliability (as I write, another of today's trains in cancelled through lack of staff) and we must ensure that for the future of our town we move forward - as Corby, or Ebbw Vale, or Tweedbank, Leven, Alloa or Ashington have done and that we don't fall back from our "halfway there" position and find ourselves loosing again as Felletin and Aubesson do today.
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I think back to Melksham's train service and the period from 2006 to 2013 when we, too, had just 2 trains a day with the "too early, too late" 'joke' that was no joke. 3,000 passenger journeys a year sounded a lot - until you worked out that it was 1 or 2 people getting on or off each train - similar to I saw in Felletin.
[snip]
Since 2013, we have come so far forward, but we have faded back on unreliability (as I write, another of today's trains in cancelled through lack of staff) and we must ensure that for the future of our town we move forward - as Corby, or Ebbw Vale, or Tweedbank, Leven, Alloa or Ashington have done and that we don't fall back from our "halfway there" position and find ourselves loosing again as Felletin and Aubesson do today.
Re: Solent Tunnel, between Hampshire and Isle of Wight In "Campaigns for new and improved services" [364965/30657/28] Posted by ChrisB at 10:09, 31st August 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Can we either rename or split off these posts or else we'll not find them easily!
Re: 2025 - Service update and amendment log, Swindon <-> Westbury In "TransWilts line" [364964/29726/18] Posted by TaplowGreen at 09:54, 31st August 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
13:32 Swindon to Weymouth due 15:45
13:32 Swindon to Weymouth due 15:45 will be started from Westbury.
It will no longer call at Swindon, Chippenham, Melksham and Trowbridge.
This is due to a shortage of train crew.
Re: "Off on my travels again" In "The Lighter Side" [364963/30432/30] Posted by grahame at 09:39, 31st August 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Last day of service today?
The Railway World article on the line to Felletin.
Mark
https://railwayworld.net/2025/03/28/death-of-a-french-branch-line/
The Railway World article on the line to Felletin.
Mark
https://railwayworld.net/2025/03/28/death-of-a-french-branch-line/
To my knowledge - yes. "Barring a miracle" said someone. The enormity of decisions to remove railway lines and abandon infrastucture should not be undetstimated. I am educationally content having been there to see it first hand; I remain deeply troubled at such losses. Having said which from the very limited evidence indeed of a single journey and a look at just one of the two towns to loose its train service today, I didn't see a traffic that is going to be impacted next month. I DID see a busy town jammed with private cars and with interesting things so see that could have made far better use of a decent railed public transport service.
Not my country - not my battle. Compare Melksham - up from 3,000 to 63,000 journeys a year with an increase from two silly O'Clock services as day to seven. Far from an exact parallel, but a comparison that I think's valid none the less.
Re: North Cotswold line delays and cancellations - 2025 In "London to the Cotswolds" [364962/29711/14] Posted by Worcester_Passenger at 09:19, 31st August 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Sunday August 31
07:36 London Paddington to Great Malvern due 10:15 will no longer call at Hanborough, Charlbury, Kingham, Moreton-In-Marsh, Honeybourne, Evesham, Pershore and Worcestershire Parkway Hl.
It is being delayed at London Paddington.
This is due to this train being late from the depot.
Will be formed of 5 coaches instead of 9.
Last Updated:31/08/2025 08:01
Departed +28, Reading +19, Oxford +20, held Shrub Hill, arrived +19.It is being delayed at London Paddington.
This is due to this train being late from the depot.
Will be formed of 5 coaches instead of 9.
Last Updated:31/08/2025 08:01
Re: Solent Tunnel, between Hampshire and Isle of Wight In "Campaigns for new and improved services" [364961/30657/28] Posted by Mark A at 09:09, 31st August 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
The Solent tunnel managed somehow to make its way on to the 1907 Bartholomew map.
Mark
https://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/#zoom=12.6&lat=50.70632&lon=-1.52774&layers=156&b=LIDAR_DTM_1m&o=100
Re: "Off on my travels again" In "The Lighter Side" [364960/30432/30] Posted by Mark A at 08:57, 31st August 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Last day of service today?
The Railway World article on the line to Felletin.
Mark
https://railwayworld.net/2025/03/28/death-of-a-french-branch-line/
Re: Interrail passes - sales and discounts - merged posts, ongoing discussion In "Fare's Fair" [364959/28132/4] Posted by grahame at 08:37, 31st August 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Looking forward to that article. It will certainly be a challenge providing that service.
I was one of the three who ticked 'Almost Certainly' in the poll, but that was before I had my cancer diagnosis, which scuppered any chance of interrailing. However, if the poll is run again later this year, I hope to be ticking the same box again.
I was one of the three who ticked 'Almost Certainly' in the poll, but that was before I had my cancer diagnosis, which scuppered any chance of interrailing. However, if the poll is run again later this year, I hope to be ticking the same box again.
The article / journey from Bodo to Trondheim and people met along the way are - so massive and yet not urgent that they form part of a book or other writing or feed. No date promised but on my list.
Consider your chance of Interrailing merely postponed. And if you do, I would love to meet up / share a journey of two along the way to a degree that suits both parties. Love to hear of your 2026 and 2027 plans and might co-ordinate to be in the same place at the same time.
A gull got into my home, it flew in via the front door when I opened it for a delivery. Foul bird caused a fair bit of damage by flying frantically and shitting everywhere.
Earl, the neighbours cat injured it but not fatally. In the end Earl and I cornered the horrid bird and I killed it a kitchen knife.
This was AFAIK OK in order to avoid suffering as it was already badly injured and would have otherwise died a slow and painful death.
Earl, the neighbours cat injured it but not fatally. In the end Earl and I cornered the horrid bird and I killed it a kitchen knife.
This was AFAIK OK in order to avoid suffering as it was already badly injured and would have otherwise died a slow and painful death.
Reading that wholesome anecdote was just the start to the day I needed - thanks as always Broadgage!

Re: Interrail passes - sales and discounts - merged posts, ongoing discussion In "Fare's Fair" [364957/28132/4] Posted by froome at 08:01, 31st August 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Looking forward to that article. It will certainly be a challenge providing that service.
I was one of the three who ticked 'Almost Certainly' in the poll, but that was before I had my cancer diagnosis, which scuppered any chance of interrailing. However, if the poll is run again later this year, I hope to be ticking the same box again.
We have a bus in Swindon named Western Pathfinder.

If she is a she, does that concern a member here with a similar name?
not in the slightest Bob,as the vehicle in question is an inanimate object.hower when referring to myself Sir is the accepted form of address Thankyou.
If she is a she, does that concern a member here with a similar name?

Re: Seagulls, particularly in Cornwall - ongoing discussion In "The West - but NOT trains in the West" [364955/29073/31] Posted by broadgage at 07:08, 31st August 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
A gull got into my home, it flew in via the front door when I opened it for a delivery. Foul bird caused a fair bit of damage by flying frantically and shitting everywhere.
Earl, the neighbours cat injured it but not fatally. In the end Earl and I cornered the horrid bird and I killed it a kitchen knife.
This was AFAIK OK in order to avoid suffering as it was already badly injured and would have otherwise died a slow and painful death.
Re: Solent Tunnel, between Hampshire and Isle of Wight In "Campaigns for new and improved services" [364954/30657/28] Posted by stuving at 23:41, 30th August 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
it says in that article that "they" (the promoters) "bought the London and South Western Railway for £85,000, with the intention of turning the Lymington to Freshwater railway line from a branch line to a main line". Of course that didn't happen. At the end of 1901 the Freshwater, Yarmouth and Newport (Isle of Wight) Railway Company was bought to form part of the tunnel scheme. The reports said it was promoters, or the Solent Tunnel Company, that paid £85,000 for it (or rather for a controlling interest). However, The South Western and Isle of Wight Junction Railway Act 1901 (and those of 1903, 1909, 1914, and later) created and gave the usual powers to a company of the same name. So formally speaking, it must have been that company that was the purchaser.
For most earlier railway companies, there were frequent reports of what they were up to, including company shareholder meetings. That didn't happen here, but there were a lot of rumours of engineering difficulties delaying the start of work, or it being imminent, or just that it all progress had stopped. The sequence of acts was partly to extend the time limit to start construction work. The promoters believed, or found, that the money available from themselves and other private subscribers was too little, but their repeated attempts to get public funds either on the island or from national government failed. Frank Gerard Aman himself died in January1938, despite the other dates being quoted, and the project was abandoned not long after.
Yes, the railway bug bites very early in life. I reckon I was bitten before my dose of chicken pox, a childhood right of passage in my day - thank God now for vaccines. Christmas was always a magical time for a child and during that season, on a day that my dad wasn’t at work, the highlight for me was him setting up on the living room floor his childhood Hornby Dublo train set for me to admire its running - but certainly not to touch!
Roll on Christmas 1966 and my first Hornby ‘O’ gauge tinplate arrived, courtesy of that wonderful white-beared chap, and I could finally get my hands on my own. The bug had left its permanent mark.
Come the following Christmas and an even more amazing item was shown to me; it was my grandfather’s ‘O’ gauge steam engine, dating from just after the First World War. It was an 0-4-0T crimson liveried locomotive, powered by liquid methylated sprits. The meths reservoir was in a metal tank just under the footplate feeding a couple of burner wicks that heated the boiler. Helpfully the tank had an overflow plug so that the correct amount of spirit could be loaded without running the boiler dry. The engine had no throttle - it was either stationary, hissing away loudly, or running at full chat. The only way to temper its speed was to load its train with suitable weights to stop it toppling over on the curves.
Now our 1960s living room was full of 1950s modern furniture - think Festival of Britain. The chairs and settee were all on spindly legs with a 6” to 7” clearance underneath - certainly enough clearance for an ‘O’ gauge tinplate track layout - and what layout is complete without a tunnel?
The great day arrived and the track was laid including the big settee tunnel. The train was assembled with suitable stones and half bricks as ballast and the locomotive prepared for its adventure - tank filled and match applied. The fun was about to start, and when the engine started spewing steam from its safety valve and cylinders it was given a gentle push - and off it set, careering around the lounge and through the tunnel with its heavy train in pursuit. This young boy was utterly delighted at the spectacle.
It was then that things started to go awry - the overflow plug of the meths tank fell out. Meths, being what it is, immediately leaked out and ran with surface tension over the whole locomotive and, of course, it immediately ignited. It was now a high speed blue ball of flame thundering around the lounge floor - like Cassy Jones’ last ride - including under the highly inflammable furniture.
Horrified, my mum screamed, “John, Stop it!!” My dad shouted, “How?!!”
It was finally arrested short of a house fire and peace once more reigned in the land - but young me detected a certain tension in the air. Never again was grandad’s steam engine allowed to be run in the house.
In August 1968, the 15 Guinea Special was run in the northwest of England - the last UK British Railways steam train. Now 15 guineas was way beyond the pocket of my father and what is not so well known is that for several weeks before the final event, identical specials were run at far more affordable prices. My dad booked us on one of these, which I would guess to be in July 1968 when I was just finishing my first year at junior school. Liverpool to Carlisle, via Manchester, Blackburn and Hellifield - up the famous Settle and Carlisle.
The lefthand photograph was taken at Carlisle on that very trip looking reluctantly out of the driver’s window of 70013 “Oliver Cromwell” - and why, dear audience, am I looking so miserable? Well like all boys of my age, I knew far more than my dad, and his killjoy instruction not to stick my head out of the window up the Long Drag. Thus yours truly ended up with painfully sharp ash in his eyes. Nevertheless, the day sticks in my memory as ‘one of those events’.
Fifty years later and there was a re-enactment and this time I would be buying the tickets. At Manchester Victoria, shortly after the Class 7 had coupled onto its train my dad showed the crew the 1968 photo.
“Well, you’d better get another!”, they said - hence the right hand one. This time in the driver’s seat. Looking at the controls, I knew I could have taken it away - Standard Class 4T being the largest I have driven.

A couple of decades now in the heritage railway world and hopefully many years more. That bug is a lifetime infection.
Solent Tunnel, between Hampshire and Isle of Wight In "Campaigns for new and improved services" [364952/30657/28] Posted by grahame at 22:06, 30th August 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
From the Daily echo
Can we get a rail tunnel under the Solent to Isle of Wight?
With Hovertravel facing financial challenges and climate change making our weather increasingly wet and windy, it is becoming difficult to always rely on ferries and hovercraft to provide a reliable service.
If a rail tunnel was constructed under the Solent the cost would eventually be justified.
As well as passengers, the railway line could carry freight, taking it off our crumbling roads.
Our current ferries, especially on the Cowes route, are nearing the end of their efficient lifespan.
With Hovertravel facing financial challenges and climate change making our weather increasingly wet and windy, it is becoming difficult to always rely on ferries and hovercraft to provide a reliable service.
If a rail tunnel was constructed under the Solent the cost would eventually be justified.
As well as passengers, the railway line could carry freight, taking it off our crumbling roads.
Our current ferries, especially on the Cowes route, are nearing the end of their efficient lifespan.
Until recently, I would not have thought of France wanting to take over the Isle of Wight ... but with the USA with designs on Greenland, perhaps it would be a good defensive idea to tunnel to the IoW?
Came across an interesting history of this scheme at
https://www.stbarbe-museum.org.uk/whats-on/online-exhibitions/local-people-and-stories/frank-aman-the-solent-tunnel/
There have been various schemes for constructing a permanent crossing between Lymington and the Isle of Wight. Among the ideas which have been advocated was a Solent Bridge between Hurst Beach and Colwell Bay, a distance of approximately three-quarters of a mile. The proposed structure was to have been similar to the Forth Bridge, with a lifting centre portion, to allow ships to pass through. Another suggestion was to use train ferries, similar to those in use on the cross-Channel routes. However, they would have been subject to the unpredictable English weather and would have been rather clumsy for the close confines of the Solent.
The only idea which was given serious consideration, and came anywhere near to fruition, was the construction of a Solent tunnel. Its principal promoter was Frank Aman, who began petitioning for a tunnel in the 1890’s.
Three main routes were proposed: Fawley to Cowes, Stokes Bay to Ryde and Lymington to Yarmouth, the shortest route and the most suitable, because it was flat on both sides and thinly populated.
In 1901, this decision became official as an Act of Parliament charged the London and South Western Railway and the Freshwater, Yarmouth and Newport Railway, to build a branch line between Lymington and the Isle of Wight.
The only idea which was given serious consideration, and came anywhere near to fruition, was the construction of a Solent tunnel. Its principal promoter was Frank Aman, who began petitioning for a tunnel in the 1890’s.
Three main routes were proposed: Fawley to Cowes, Stokes Bay to Ryde and Lymington to Yarmouth, the shortest route and the most suitable, because it was flat on both sides and thinly populated.
In 1901, this decision became official as an Act of Parliament charged the London and South Western Railway and the Freshwater, Yarmouth and Newport Railway, to build a branch line between Lymington and the Isle of Wight.
Fascinating read at the URL above and for Coffee Shop members I have added a copy to our archive database so that it's available to future searches on the subject.
Re: Black Friday Interrail sale In "Fare's Fair" [364951/28132/4] Posted by grahame at 21:43, 30th August 2025 Already liked by Mark A, froome | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
In my bucket for next year ... Turkey by train ... and I may look to complete the FEVE narrow gauge and spend longer in Portugal. Harz system - more than just The Brocken. Narvik, the Loften Islands and Bodo. Inner line in Sweden.
What is in your bucket?
What is in your bucket?
Harz - done much more. Innerbanan, Narvik and Bodo done.
Found the old thread in a search for Bodo ... having noted this on Forbes.com
On the morning of August 30, a section of Norway’s E6 highway collapsed near Nesvatnet in Levanger after a suspected quick clay landslide. The collapse took with it both lanes of the highway, the alternative road and intercity railway line.
Trondheim is many hours north of Oslo ... but then it's another 9 hours to Bodo and even that's only part way to the Northern Cape. I travelled southbound on this line about a month ago and had the pleasure of spending much of the journey chatting with a senior member of the TOC's staff and understanding some of the issues of providing the service. There's a major article to be written - both fascinating to me and educational too.
Re: Server problems from around 22:30 on 29th August 2025 In "News, Help and Assistance" [364950/30650/29] Posted by grahame at 21:27, 30th August 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
I'm still getting the unable to connect securely via https message occasionally on Edge and clicking on the view unread posts button often returns no items even though it's probably been 24 hours since I last viewed it.
"Ongoing issues" rather than from last night's fiasco
... some of our pages / content include references to images held elsewhere, and many of them - especially old ones - are http rather than https. Browsers barf at these in various ways, depending on which bowser it is and what security settings the user has made. Although I have edited / changed to an alternative secure URL for images as I have come across them, that's an awful long process with a tiny return for each edit, and I have in mind a better solution as I do other things.
... there are occasional times where the worker has been too busy to accept connections from the receptionist - a new issue since December as we only a single server so no internal comms to go wrong before December. Our discussion on another thread about AI and crawler load rather points to the "culprit" issues and by telling or bashing certain of the crawlers we have an element of control. Log files give me an insight as to the prooportion of theses we have; as they "turn over" during the period the server was down, yesterday's and today's are obscured by those other things. Come Monday morning I'll have further data.
As part of the analysis of last night, there is a possibility that I'll suggest / make a couple of server changes in the next couple of months to raise the roof and give us more headroom because of the 'bots.
... the "view unread" issue relates right back to the base SMF software we're running - always been a bit flakey and it's one of those things that effects some users irritatingly and others not at / not reproducible. Blooming had things to debug, too, issues that report on last 24 hours. Once I see the problem, it's gone away ... and another period to wait to see it again. I suspect intermediate caching devices which double-dip sometimes and like my testing, the first time they get correct unseen flags. Coming back a (milli)seconds later, there is then nothing new. That's a theory that would explain what you see. And our server does see double hits.
Re: Server problems from around 22:30 on 29th August 2025 In "News, Help and Assistance" [364949/30650/29] Posted by Surrey 455 at 20:06, 30th August 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
I'm still getting the unable to connect securely via https message occasionally on Edge and clicking on the view unread posts button often returns no items even though it's probably been 24 hours since I last viewed it.
Re: Crusing on the Exe - getting refreshed right through In "Buses and other ways to travel" [364948/30653/5] Posted by ChrisB at 19:28, 30th August 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |

This one has folks aboard....
... 'Lord Dowding' is in too good a condition for that (she was bereft of nameplates after 1966!) ....
Lovely picture - but why do we say "She" when a locomotive has a male name. Or is it because the locomotive was in drag at the time the picture was taken?
Google's AI says this.......
Steam locomotives are often referred to as 'she' due to a long-standing tradition where machines, like ships, are personified as female, reflecting their nurturing and protective roles. This practice is rooted in historical language usage and the emotional connections drivers develop with their locomotives.
Gendering of Steam Locomotives
Steam locomotives are often referred to as "she" due to a combination of historical, cultural, and linguistic factors.
Historical Context
Tradition: The practice of calling ships and locomotives "she" has been a long-standing tradition in maritime and railway culture. This custom likely stems from the idea of ships and locomotives as protectors and nurturers, similar to maternal figures.
Personification: Many engineers and drivers develop a personal connection with their locomotives, treating them as living entities. This emotional bond often leads to the use of female pronouns.
Linguistic Origins
Language Evolution: The word for ship in Latin, "navis," is feminine. This linguistic background has influenced how various cultures refer to ships and, by extension, locomotives.
Cultural Associations: In many cultures, machines like locomotives are seen as powerful yet requiring care and maintenance, traits often associated with femininity.
Modern Perspectives
Debate: While many still refer to locomotives as "she," some argue against gendering inanimate objects, viewing it as outdated or unnecessary. However, the tradition persists in many railway communities.
In summary, steam locomotives are referred to as "she" due to historical traditions, emotional connections, and linguistic influences, although this practice is increasingly debated in modern contexts.
Gendering of Steam Locomotives
Steam locomotives are often referred to as "she" due to a combination of historical, cultural, and linguistic factors.
Historical Context
Tradition: The practice of calling ships and locomotives "she" has been a long-standing tradition in maritime and railway culture. This custom likely stems from the idea of ships and locomotives as protectors and nurturers, similar to maternal figures.
Personification: Many engineers and drivers develop a personal connection with their locomotives, treating them as living entities. This emotional bond often leads to the use of female pronouns.
Linguistic Origins
Language Evolution: The word for ship in Latin, "navis," is feminine. This linguistic background has influenced how various cultures refer to ships and, by extension, locomotives.
Cultural Associations: In many cultures, machines like locomotives are seen as powerful yet requiring care and maintenance, traits often associated with femininity.
Modern Perspectives
Debate: While many still refer to locomotives as "she," some argue against gendering inanimate objects, viewing it as outdated or unnecessary. However, the tradition persists in many railway communities.
In summary, steam locomotives are referred to as "she" due to historical traditions, emotional connections, and linguistic influences, although this practice is increasingly debated in modern contexts.