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Re: Cambridge Guided Busway - ongoing discussion and updates
In "Buses and other ways to travel" [368837/3987/5]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 19:23, 2nd December 2025
 
From the BBC:

Fewer busway passengers after speed limit lowered



Fewer passengers have been using a guided busway since speed limits were lowered as part of a raft of new safety measures.

The limit on Cambridgeshire's network - where three people have died - was reduced to a blanket 30mph (48km/h) in October while permanent fencing works were carried out.

Meeting documents sent to Cambridgeshire County Council's highways and transport committee stated passenger numbers were "down due to the increased journey time".

While bus companies Stagecoach and Whippet said they were "supportive" of the fencing works, they "expressed concern over the longer-term impact of the current works," the papers added.

The guided busway takes a modified bus along a dedicated track - in some sections previously up to a speed of 56mph (90km/h) - and serves Cambridge, St Ives and Huntingdon.

Jennifer Taylor, Steve Moir and Kathleen Pitts were killed in collisions on the Cambridgeshire Busway between 2015 and 2021.

The county council was fined £6m earlier this year after the deaths, and a judge criticised the authority for its "rigid and blinkered response" to the fatalities.

In meeting documents, the authority said speed monitoring was currently underway, and on-bus equipment also governed speed. "The increased journey times can have an impact on the attractiveness of busway services and have resulted in operational difficulties for the bus companies," it continued.

David Boden, commercial director of Stagecoach East, said: "We are fully supportive of works to ensure safety, but, in delivering these works, every effort needs to be made to minimise as far as possible the impact on busway customers. At our most recent data, we are down 6.8% year-on-year on Busway A customers and 8.6% on Busway B customers. This is a result of the significantly increased journey times caused by the works. This increase in journey time, of between 40 and 50 minutes, has seen us introduce three extra buses, and our team put in huge efforts, to try and offer a guaranteed frequency where we can, and also to ensure that Trumpington Park & Ride to the Biomedical Campus has sufficient buses."

He apologised for the impact on customers and said it was working with stakeholders to ensure the works were delivered as quickly as possible. He also asked other infrastructure providers to think about the scheduling of their work while the fencing was being installed.

The Tiger T1 service run by Whippet, which takes passengers from Huntingdon to Cambridge, "has been able to largely maintain the previous journey frequencies", but passenger numbers were down, council documents said. "However, both companies are supportive of the fencing works and welcome the safety benefit it will bring."

Whippet has been contacted for further comment.


MP bemused by lack of Ely North rail junction upgrade
In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [368836/31186/51]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 19:10, 2nd December 2025
 
From the BBC:


An MP has been left "quite bemused" about why a major rail junction upgrade still has not happened.

For 25 years campaigners have argued that improving Ely North Junction in Cambridgeshire would make it possible to run more freight and passenger services and help grow the local economy.

The local Liberal Democrat MP Charlotte Cane claimed "for every £1 spent [the project is] likely to bring back nearly £5", ahead of hosting a debate in Parliament on Wednesday.

A Department for Transport (DfT) spokesperson said it recognised the scheme's importance and fully anticipated Ely North "will be part of a pipeline of projects to be considered as part of future funding decisions". They added: "There is a strong case for Ely Junction, and we are committed to working with a broad range of stakeholders to support its inclusion in the future pipeline."

Lines from Norwich, Cambridge, King's Lynn, Peterborough and Ipswich all meet at Ely North junction.

The project has received the go-ahead from previous governments on at least two occasions, but the work is yet to start.

In 2020, it was revealed the cost of the project had risen from £25m to £500m, while complicated engineering and a slowness to make decisions have also been blamed.


Five rail lines from across the East of England converge at Ely North junction

Cane, the MP for Ely and East Cambridgeshire, said she was hoping Wednesday's debate would "get across the real importance of this project".

She said it would take freight off the roads and benefit not only the local area but also "the Midlands and further north".

"It's an amazing project... I'm still quite bemused as to why it hasn't happened yet," she told BBC Radio Cambridgeshire.

The DfT said when the previous Government announced Network North - of which this scheme was a part - it did not set out any plans for how to fund it.


Re: Advent Quiz - 2nd December 2025
In "The Lighter Side" [368835/31182/30]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 18:32, 2nd December 2025
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Cough.

H.  Nailsea & Backwell.

CfN. 

Re: Advent Quiz - 2nd December 2025
In "The Lighter Side" [368834/31182/30]
Posted by grahame at 18:09, 2nd December 2025
 
I got A as soon as I saw it, but eightonedee had already seen it, about half an hour before me.

Specially for you, Chris

H.
Opened 14 June 1841

Closed for goods 1 July 1964

Around the time the Coffee Shop opened, it was served by two train operators but that's been reduced to just one now, though other operators including scheduled, special and freight trains pass through.

Current car park with 285 car parking spaces, six motorcycle spaces and a number of cycle racks.

Re: Caledonian MacBrayne ferries in Scotland
In "Buses and other ways to travel" [368833/30034/5]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 17:52, 2nd December 2025
 
From the BBC:

New delay for Turkish-built CalMac ferry MV Isle of Islay

The first of four new CalMac ferries being built in Turkey has been delayed again.

Caledonian Maritime Assets Ltd (CMAL) said it still hoped to take delivery of MV Isle of Islay before Christmas but warned this would be a "challenge".

CMAL had previously told MSPs it expected the ship to be handed over in November, before making the two-week voyage to Scotland.

The government-owned ferries agency says a number of issues are still being addressed before the ferry can be signed off by UK regulators.

MV Isle of Islay, which will will operate on the Kennacraig to Islay route, is the first of four 95m-long ferries being built for the CalMac fleet at the Turkish Cemre shipyard.

When the contract was awarded it was due for delivery in October last year, but construction has been hit by a series of delays which CMAL says were due to supply chain issues and labour shortages.

In an update letter to Holyrood's net zero, energy and transport committee, CMAL said the UK's Maritime and Coastguard Agency (MCA) carried out a final survey in the last week of October, and the shipyard is addressing issues that were raised. MCA inspectors are due to carry out another final survey on 8 December.

The update letter said: "If all completion activities go smoothly, the shipyard is targeting delivery of MV Isle of Islay prior to the Christmas period. This will be a challenge but CMAL, CalMac, Cemre and the regulatory authorities are all working hard and collaboratively towards reaching this target date for vessel delivery just before the Christmas holidays."

The journey to Scotland will involve a refuelling stop at Gibraltar and a journey across the Bay of Biscay. After arriving in Scotland, CalMac will carry out crew familiarisation and berthing trials at various ports before the ship enters service.

Work is continuing at the Cemre shipyard on MV Loch Indaal - also destined for the Islay route - and two other ferries MV Lochmor and MV Claymore will eventually serve the Western Isles.

CMAL said costs remained "on budget".


Re: Advent Quiz - 2nd December 2025
In "The Lighter Side" [368832/31182/30]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 17:34, 2nd December 2025
 
I got A as soon as I saw it, but eightonedee had already seen it, about half an hour before me.

Re: Tributes to boy, 14, who died after being hit by train - Nottinghamshire
In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [368831/31170/51]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 17:29, 2nd December 2025
 
From the BBC:

Level crossing under review when boy hit by train

A consultation on whether to close a footpath level crossing opened the day before a 14-year-old boy was fatally struck by a train, documents have shown.

Josh Travis died when he was struck by a train in Burton Joyce, Nottinghamshire, on Wednesday.

Network Rail had applied to Nottinghamshire County Council to close the Chestnut Grove level crossing on safety grounds in March, warning it posed a "very real risk of serious incident".

As part of the application to "extinguish the public right of way", authority launched a consultation on 25 November. The council has been contacted for comment.

Josh's death is not being treated as suspicious, and the Rail Accident Investigation Branch said it was conducting a "preliminary examination".

Tributes, including dozens of floral messages, have since been left at the level crossing.

Network Rail added on Thursday that the council had agreed to an emergency closure of the footpath, which would initially be in place for 21 days. A document submitted as part of the application from Network Rail to the council said there was a "very real risk of a serious incident at Chestnut Grove level crossing if it remains open".

The report confirmed that, as of March 2025, there had been 19 near-misses at the crossing since 2020. It added a near-miss in this instance was an event in which the train driver had to apply the emergency brake for fear of hitting a person who was crossing. "Misuse occurs on a daily basis and it is only a matter of time before a person is hit at the crossing," it stated.

The report detailed that Network Rail had submitted "repeated applications" to the county council to temporarily stop the public right of way over the crossing to remove the risk to users while permanent solutions were explored.

Mark Budden, Network Rail's route director, East Midlands, said: "Our thoughts remain with the family and friends affected by this tragic incident. Safety is our top priority, and we are supporting the Rail Accident Investigation Branch in its inquiries.

"The level crossing is a public right of way, and Network Rail does not have the legal powers to close it - that decision rests with the local highways authority and needs a formal application and public consultation. We submitted an application in spring this year to close the level crossing on safety grounds, and the council had recently launched a public consultation for this."


(BBC article continues)


Re: Advent Quiz - 2nd December 2025
In "The Lighter Side" [368830/31182/30]
Posted by grahame at 17:29, 2nd December 2025
Already liked by Chris from Nailsea
 
All correct:

A Kennet and Avon Canal - eightonedee
B East West Rail - Richard Fairhust
C Interrail - TonyN
D Bath Tranways - OxonHutch
E Waverley - old original
F Limeric / Waterford to Rosslare - stuving
G Cattistock Halt - bradshaw

I have another batch H up to some other letter ... sometime later this month?

Re: Failed Train at Bruton 2 Dec 2025
In "London to the West" [368829/31184/12]
Posted by grahame at 15:50, 2nd December 2025
 
I note that the train ran ecs to Westbury. What happened to any passengers?

Did they all go from the station down to The Blue Ball and still there?

It appears that the train from Yeovil to Filton came into Bruton just before 7 a.m. and ... moved on, empty, at 09:03. ... queueing behind it was a Waterloo train which picked presumably picked up most paasengers at 09:15, and a train to Bristol Temple Meads at 09:21.   Both running very late, but once the broken down train had left not a long extra wait. 

Re: That Flanders and Swann song...
In "Railway History and related topics" [368828/31181/55]
Posted by Mark A at 15:01, 2nd December 2025
 
Almost sixty years on, a Matlock to Chinley klaxon sometimes battles to make itself heard as it's potent enough to provoke some fairly weighty voices. Not a Beeching closure, more a product of the momentum of closing lines that had been gained by the closure programme of the mid-sixties, and also, the shadow cast by the various positive initiatives that the railways were able to launch at the time - did that shadow fall heavily on the steam-age railway to create a combination of circumstances that resulted in the loss of a major component of the railway's core infrastructure?

A friend recalls meeting a relative at Stockport Tiviotdale, at a time that the electrification of Euston to Manchester was in full swing and Tiviotdale was fielding the steam service to and from London - Tiviotdale giving the impression of something from a previous age, in poor repair, dark, soot-covered, shabby and generally at the end of its days (which indeed it was). A very big contrast to the world that was in process of arriving at Stockport's other station.

Mark

A rare bird indeed !!
In "Heritage railways, Railtours, buses, canals, steamships and other public transport based attractions" [368827/31185/47]
Posted by Clan Line at 14:34, 2nd December 2025
Already liked by PrestburyRoad, PhilWakely, brooklea, Western Pathfinder, Chris from Nailsea
 
Passing Yarnbrook on the way to the Bath Christmas Market. Looked and sounded magnificent. Hauling 12 coaches and a 47 - made it look easy.




Re: North Cotswold line delays and cancellations - 2025
In "London to the Cotswolds" [368826/29711/14]
Posted by Worcester_Passenger at 14:25, 2nd December 2025
 
Tuesday December 2

1P18 07:13 Great Malvern to London Paddington : started from Foregate St (JC : "over-running engineering works", RTT : "late arrival of an inbound service (YI)" )

Re: Failed Train at Bruton 2 Dec 2025
In "London to the West" [368825/31184/12]
Posted by Witham Bobby at 13:58, 2nd December 2025
 
I note that the train ran ecs to Westbury. What happened to any passengers?

Did they all go from the station down to The Blue Ball and still there?

Re: Advent Quiz - 2nd December 2025
In "The Lighter Side" [368824/31182/30]
Posted by AMLAG at 13:56, 2nd December 2025
Already liked by grahame
 

E is the PS ‘Waverley’ claimed to be the last Ocean going Paddle steamer in the World.
 

Re: Failed Train at Bruton 2 Dec 2025
In "London to the West" [368823/31184/12]
Posted by bradshaw at 12:40, 2nd December 2025
 
I note that the train ran ecs to Westbury. What happened to any passengers?

Re: Advent Quiz - 2nd December 2025
In "The Lighter Side" [368822/31182/30]
Posted by bradshaw at 12:34, 2nd December 2025
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I lived in Maiden Newton for 20 years and played cricket for Cattistock whose pitch borders the line by the bridge.
When the halt closed Cattistock had a good bus service to Dorchester, which I used to get to the school in which I taught, before getting a rail season ticket. It was the lack of an alternative that kept Chetnole and Thornford open. In this way it was rather like the Bridport branch which was closed only when an alternative bus service could be sorted.
On transferring to teach at Bridport I used that bus daily until I moved to a village nearer to the school in 1996.
Now the branch trackbed provides a convenient footpath a few yards from our house.

Re: That Flanders and Swann song...
In "Railway History and related topics" [368821/31181/55]
Posted by grahame at 11:43, 2nd December 2025
Already liked by Western Pathfinder, Mark A
 
Under the "Creative Commons v2" license, I can share the map - origins at the post linked earlier in this thread ... and looking through the list of 31 stations mentioned, I have passed through / visited just 8 or 9 - mostly the ones still there.


Re: Advent Quiz - 2nd December 2025
In "The Lighter Side" [368820/31182/30]
Posted by grahame at 11:21, 2nd December 2025
Already liked by Witham Bobby, Mark A
 
I think F is the Dublin-Rosslare railway line.

Close but not a bullseye.

So it's Limerick-Rosslare that's your subject,then.

Indeed - though with much of the following text specific to the Waterford to Rosslare section.   Rosslare is a sad, sad story as far as rail is concerned ... it could (have been) be so much more with joined up thinking.  For sure the foot traffic is / has been thin through Fishguard and Rosslare but the way the routes have become hard and unfriendly to use are so sad and appear to be with little positive thought for the through customer.

Re: That Flanders and Swann song...
In "Railway History and related topics" [368819/31181/55]
Posted by grahame at 11:12, 2nd December 2025
Already liked by Mark A
 
Gosh, a very deep dive!

That song has come into my head a couple of times recently while waiting at St Erth for the train to St Ives.

Beeching's report probably got it about half-right, on balance. The half he got wrong will still be haunting us 100 years from now..

Some of the biggest travesties were lines proposed for retention but never the less closed - Oxford to Cambridge, trains to Swanage and to Kingswear, Cheltenham Spa to Stratford-upon-Avon.  Perhaps these haunt us even more than some of the Beeching proposals that were implemented such as Minehead, Tavistock and Portishead.

Yes - relieved for the current users that lines like St Ives, Exmouth and Avonmouth were saved though proposed for closure.

Re: That Flanders and Swann song...
In "Railway History and related topics" [368818/31181/55]
Posted by Red Squirrel at 10:56, 2nd December 2025
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Gosh, a very deep dive!

That song has come into my head a couple of times recently while waiting at St Erth for the train to St Ives.

Beeching's report probably got it about half-right, on balance. The half he got wrong will still be haunting us 100 years from now..

Re: Advent Quiz - 2nd December 2025
In "The Lighter Side" [368817/31182/30]
Posted by stuving at 10:40, 2nd December 2025
 
I think F is the Dublin-Rosslare railway line.

Close but not a bullseye.

So it's Limerick-Rosslare that's your subject,then.

Re: Advent Quiz - 2nd December 2025
In "The Lighter Side" [368816/31182/30]
Posted by grahame at 10:20, 2nd December 2025
 
I think F is the Dublin-Rosslare railway line.

Close but not a bullseye.

Re: Advent Quiz - 2nd December 2025
In "The Lighter Side" [368815/31182/30]
Posted by stuving at 10:17, 2nd December 2025
 
I think F is the Dublin-Rosslare railway line.

Re: 07:00 Manchester - Euston
In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [368814/31168/51]
Posted by Noggin at 09:48, 2nd December 2025
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From the BBC:


Regulator backtracks on 'ghost train' plan

What a farce 

A cynic might wonder which MP's, BBC execs & senior civil servants were regular users of the train.

An uber-cynic might wonder if the ORR had been set-up to fail on this one and fell for the bait!

Re: Engineering changes - 8th to 14th December 2025
In "London to the West" [368813/31183/12]
Posted by grahame at 09:48, 2nd December 2025
 
Not quite correct in saying no direct services on Saturday as there is one Plymouth to London train in both directions diverted between Exeter and Castle Cary via Yeovil.

But I guess better to say no direct trains in case the one train does get cancelled.

It’s a pity, particularly for Pewsey passengers, that no effort is made to run some direct services between Castle Cary and Paddington on the weekend. I would guess that will be down to reliability of having enough train crew on the weekend to operate them.

I do find myself looking and wondering - bearing in mind the very high customer volumes London-ward from both Castle Cary and Pewsey and they seem to being dumped at the weekend onto buses or the Heart-of-Wessex service with multiple changes.    More about the cost of providing an alternative - perhaps a token alternative - than looking after customers?  Or looking to make it so hard to travel that weekend that optional travellers try the previous or following weekend?





So tempted to suggest that the Newbury -> Bedwyn shuttle - with an extra unit - be extended every 2 hours to Yeovil Junction.

Re: Engineering changes - 8th to 14th December 2025
In "London to the West" [368812/31183/12]
Posted by Timmer at 09:29, 2nd December 2025
 
Not quite correct in saying no direct services on Saturday as there is one Plymouth to London train in both directions diverted between Exeter and Castle Cary via Yeovil.

But I guess better to say no direct trains in case the one train does get cancelled.

It’s a pity, particularly for Pewsey passengers, that no effort is made to run some direct services between Castle Cary and Paddington on the weekend. I would guess that will be down to reliability of having enough train crew on the weekend to operate them.

Re: Advent Quiz - 2nd December 2025
In "The Lighter Side" [368811/31182/30]
Posted by TonyN at 09:18, 2nd December 2025
 
C. Interrail passes

Failed Train at Bruton 2 Dec 2025
In "London to the West" [368810/31184/12]
Posted by Witham Bobby at 09:16, 2nd December 2025
 
Cancellations to services between Castle Cary and Westbury
Due to a broken down train between Castle Cary and Westbury some lines are blocked.
Train services running through these stations may be cancelled or delayed. Disruption is expected until 10:00 02/12.
Customer Advice
Due to a broken down train at Bruton, we are currently unable to run any trains between Castle Cary and Westbury.
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We are still able to run trains between Westbury and Castle Cary. Services from London to the West Country are currently unaffected.
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An engineer has been deployed to the broken down train.
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Passengers at Westbury for Reading/London Paddington are advised to board the next available service to Bath and change.

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Passengers at Castle Cary/Bruton/Frome are advised to board the next available service to Taunton and change for services towards Bristol and onwards to London Paddington.
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Alternatively, passengers at Frome may use their ticket, at no extra cost, on the following local bus service:

First Bus (Bristol, Bath & the West):
Route D2: Bath (Bus Station), Frome (Market Place)
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We're sorry for the delay to your journey.
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We will update this message with more information when we have it.
Last Updated:02/12/2025 09:07

Memories of 1974.  I pinched a loco off a Merehead to Westbury trip, with the wagons dropped off in Witham's Up Sidings, and sent it to the rescue of the failed train at Bruton.  The driver laughed at me when I reminded him about the catch points down the bank.  I think that with his years of service, he will ahve already noticed them a few times.  Anyway, all sorted within half an hour of the driver of the failed Paignton to London train phoning me at Witham from the phone outside the switched-out Bruton 'box

Re: Advent Quiz - 2nd December 2025
In "The Lighter Side" [368809/31182/30]
Posted by grahame at 09:03, 2nd December 2025
 
B is East West Rail.

Indeed - a big reminder of just how long and prone to change such plans are - original suggestion was made by Ipswich Borough Council in 1995.

As an aside - much of the information in today's quiz has been gleaned from multiple online sources and made into a quiz - I wasn't and (m)any of the events in person.  I am very much aware that I am editing and rewriting and looking to avoid cut and paste to the extent of the quiz being plagiarism though you may find some of the sentences worded with a resemblance to other text elsewhere.

Re: Advent Quiz - 2nd December 2025
In "The Lighter Side" [368808/31182/30]
Posted by Oxonhutch at 09:01, 2nd December 2025
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D: Trams in Bath

 
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