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As at 4th December 2024 09:06 GMT
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Re: South Western Railway to be renationalised - report
Posted by grahame at 08:57, 4th December 2024
 
And an interesting follow up in The Standard which includes an interview with Heidi Alexander - there's a lot there - quotes to follow.


Re: South Western Railway to be renationalised - report
Posted by grahame at 08:28, 4th December 2024
 
From the BBC

Three rail operators will be renationalised by Labour next year after it passed a law allowing it to do so.

South Western Railways will be renationalised in May 2025, C2C in July 2025, and Greater Anglia in autumn 2025, the transport department has confirmed.

AQ04 - Three Letter Code grid
Posted by grahame at 08:18, 4th December 2024
 
QUFTW
VQINT
NIKMA
DSTRS
BLFBH

Hidden in the puzzle above are 20 three letter codes. Start anywhere and read horizontal, vertical or diagonal, forwards or sdrawkcab. How many can you spot, and how many of them have you visited?  With the help of Cato and Rasmus, I can identify the 20, I have visited 7 to get on or off a train, and I have passed through the majority - just one I am in doubt about.

Re: 2024 - Service update and amendment log, Swindon <-> Westbury
Posted by TaplowGreen at 07:04, 4th December 2024
 
22:31 Swindon to Westbury due 23:12

22:31 Swindon to Westbury due 23:12 will be cancelled.
This is due to a passenger being taken ill on this train.
Further Information

Last Updated:03/12/2024 21:45

And this is the sort of situation in which it can be perfectly reasonable and indeed right to cancel a train.

...........as long as contingency plans are robust enough to allow alternatives to be put in place rapidly to prevent other customers being stranded.

Re: CrossCountry upgrade will see 25% more rail seats
Posted by TaplowGreen at 07:02, 4th December 2024
 
I have been cynical for many years.


Surely not? 

Re: North Cotswold Line delays and cancellations - 2024
Posted by Worcester_Passenger at 05:39, 4th December 2024
 
A couple of short-formations this evening which will impact upon peak up services tomorrow morning:

Facilities on the 19:53 London Paddington to Hereford due 22:58.
Will be formed of 5 coaches instead of 9. There are no reservations on this service

Facilities on the 21:53 London Paddington to Worcester Shrub Hill due 00:01.
Will be formed of 5 coaches instead of 9. There are no reservations on this service

which seem to make up the stock for the next morning's 0523 Hereford to London Paddington and 0643 Worcester Shrub Hill to London Paddington services.

Overnight, someone has swapped the next-day workings at Shrub Hill -
the 5-car set is on 1P11 0514 Worcester Shrub Hill to London Paddington (07:24), and
a 9-car set on 1P16 0643 Worcester Shrub Hill to London Paddington (08:44).

But it still means that three of the first four London trains from Worcester to Oxford are five cars instead of nine.

And none of this is reported in the 'Formations' section of JourneyCheck.

Later in the day:
13:50 London Paddington to Great Malvern due 16:15 will be terminated at Oxford.
This is due to a shortage of train crew.
Last Updated:04/12/2024 02:56

16:32 Great Malvern to London Paddington due 19:29 will be started from Worcester Shrub Hill.
This is due to a shortage of train crew.
Last Updated:04/12/2024 02:56

20:52 London Paddington to Great Malvern due 23:13 will be terminated at Oxford.
This is due to a shortage of train crew.
Last Updated:04/12/2024 03:03

21:53 London Paddington to Worcester Shrub Hill due 00:01 will be terminated at Oxford.
This is due to a shortage of train crew.
Last Updated:04/12/2024 03:11

Re: CrossCountry upgrade will see 25% more rail seats
Posted by broadgage at 04:27, 4th December 2024
 
I have been cynical for many years.
"Providing more seats" sounds good but too often means higher density seating rather than longer trains.

Re: Shortage of train crews on Great Western Railway - ongoing discussion
Posted by a-driver at 22:52, 3rd December 2024
 
It should be all back in public hands within not much more than a decade.

Not a hope in hell!

Re: AQ03 - what do these groups have in common
Posted by TonyN at 22:35, 3rd December 2024
 
4 All have Tower in their name, Middleton Towers, Alton Towers, Tower Hill and Tower Gateway.

Re: 2024 - Service update and amendment log, Swindon <-> Westbury
Posted by grahame at 22:34, 3rd December 2024
 
It is interesting Realtimetrains puts the cause down as "disorder".

Hmmm ... hard to know and rare enough to wish appreciate it's just one of those rare things where passengers need sorting out at the detriment of the train running.  Be they unwell because of a regular illness, or because they've been assaulted by someone else or from the effects of imbibing too much of something.

Re: The Magic Roundabout
Posted by Oxonhutch at 22:33, 3rd December 2024
 
From Autoshenanigans - 56 minutes of it...

here on Youtube

Enjoy ...


Re: New timetables - Transport for Wales - from 15th December 2024
Posted by Hafren at 22:31, 3rd December 2024
 
With Swansea-Manchester meant to be 5 carriages on most services from the timetable change in a few weeks are TFW confident that they are finally able to deliver this? According to the FAQ's on the website it sounds like they are.

Also after looking at RTT it seems the arrival from Manchester loses 3 carriages at Swansea with the 2 car going to West Wales and the 3 car just sits in Swansea for an hour until the next 2 car comes from West Wales.  The 0945 arrival at Swansea (from Crewe in this instance) then sits there until the next departure to Manchester at 1054.    It appears that the few trains that still go from West Wales to Cardiff the hours they dont go to Manchester will 2 cars throughout which could see 2 cars on some busy Cardiff-Milford services.

I hope the all-day couple/uncouple arrangement works out in practice. A Sprinter covering something would snarl it up!

I wonder if there's any scope to swap the arrangement so the 3 car portion goes past Swansea and then ends up on Cardiffs in between. With most other routes in theory going up to an appropriate new baseline train length (CDF-HHD 3 car, CDF-MAN 5 car etc) the off-hour Cardiff-West journeys are a bit of an anomoly being stuck with 2 cars. Swapping the arrangement would mean more 3 car (with Standard Plus) diagrams in total, as some will be locked into West Wales cycles at any one time. I can see why the extras aren't attaching/detaching at Swansea - it would otherwise involve having two sets couple/uncouple movements going on at the same time each hour, and either very tight movements or having overlapping layovers, none of which is good for resilience. Maybe once things have settled down the 'extras' could have a separate routine of attaching/detaching a 2 car set at CMN to make 4 cars.

Several 153 subs today, it seems, and a 150 on at least one Ebbw Vale diagram, which was doing the stepping-up thing that suggests availability is tight. So I am a bit concerned about how there will suddenly be an increase in availability! Especially with 150s starting to be withdrawn now AIUI. 756s are starting to appear; only 1 diagram on today, as far as I could see, but I wouldn't be surprised if there were a dramatic increase in the next few weeks. That would help to cascade some 150s to the Valleys routes currently operated with 153s, which would then help to cover the SWML locals etc until 197 availability improves. Most of the Pembrokes seem to be 197s atm, for example, so they could be released if covered by 153s per previous plans.

Re: 2024 - Service update and amendment log, Swindon <-> Westbury
Posted by bobm at 22:26, 3rd December 2024
 
It is interesting Realtimetrains puts the cause down as "disorder".

Re: 2024 - Service update and amendment log, Swindon <-> Westbury
Posted by grahame at 22:23, 3rd December 2024
 
22:31 Swindon to Westbury due 23:12

22:31 Swindon to Westbury due 23:12 will be cancelled.
This is due to a passenger being taken ill on this train.
Further Information

Last Updated:03/12/2024 21:45

And this is the sort of situation in which it can be perfectly reasonable and indeed right to cancel a train.

Re: New timetables - Transport for Wales - from 15th December 2024
Posted by Richard Fairhurst at 21:53, 3rd December 2024
 
Some changes to the calling pattern on certain services between Cardiff and Manchester Piccadilly, to speed up some trains and deliver a standard pattern in the timetable.

And cut big swathes through the local service for the Marcher stations, but they're in England so they don't count.

I try not to be too reactionary about TfW's attitude to the stops between Hereford and Shrewsbury, but they really could make more of an attempt to at least pretend to care. Two morning stops are being dropped from Church Stretton in this attempt to "deliver a standard pattern", which means no departures between 0937 and 1104. There are several more of these 1.5-hour gaps through the day, and southbound to Hereford too.

Re: AQ03 - what do these groups have in common
Posted by Richard Fairhurst at 21:45, 3rd December 2024
 
Anyway, back on topic - is 3 "staff halts"?

Re: AQ03 - what do these groups have in common
Posted by Richard Fairhurst at 21:44, 3rd December 2024
 
10.  Canal tunnels.  I know that Sapperton has a famous railway tunnel which is still in use - I travelled through it last week - and it also has a famous canal tunnel which is blocked by roof falls but which still has elegant portals - I've seen them.  Mr Google shows that the other three locations also have canal
tunnels.

Indeed!

Norwood Tunnel is on the Chesterfield Canal - indeed it's the current limit of navigation of the "connected section". (There's an isolated restored section beyond the tunnel.) Significantly collapsed; the restoration plans envisage opening up a large part as a cutting.

Greywell is on the Basingstoke Canal, also the limit of navigation. Full of rare bats so not going to be reopened. (Plus the "navigable" part of the Basingstoke has enough problems of its own without adding more.)

Drakeholes is also on the Chesterfield, but it isn't closed - it's part of the navigable section, and it's actually broad-beam (14ft) so that wider boats can proceed some way from the Trent before the locks start in earnest.

Re: AQ03 - what do these groups have in common
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 21:39, 3rd December 2024
 

8. All had GWR Hotels.


Indeed - they were the only five when it came to nationalisation in 1948. 

Well done, AMLAG - I was really struggling with that one! 

Re: AQ03 - what do these groups have in common
Posted by grahame at 21:32, 3rd December 2024
 

8. All had GWR Hotels.


Indeed - they were the only five when it came to nationalisation in 1948. 

Re: New timetables - Transport for Wales - from 15th December 2024
Posted by welsh1980 at 21:23, 3rd December 2024
 
Swanline still not being hourly all day is disappointing however its still a much improved service in the morning and evening peaks.  Particularly going in Cardiff direction in the morning.

I have noticed the Carmarthen-Cardiff services that have been cut during the week appear to be running on a Saturday. This is very sensible knowing how busy services are heading towards Cardiff on a Saturday.

With Swansea-Manchester meant to be 5 carriages on most services from the timetable change in a few weeks are TFW confident that they are finally able to deliver this? According to the FAQ's on the website it sounds like they are.

Also after looking at RTT it seems the arrival from Manchester loses 3 carriages at Swansea with the 2 car going to West Wales and the 3 car just sits in Swansea for an hour until the next 2 car comes from West Wales.  The 0945 arrival at Swansea (from Crewe in this instance) then sits there until the next departure to Manchester at 1054.    It appears that the few trains that still go from West Wales to Cardiff the hours they dont go to Manchester will 2 cars throughout which could see 2 cars on some busy Cardiff-Milford services.

Re: AQ03 - what do these groups have in common
Posted by AMLAG at 21:21, 3rd December 2024
 

8. All had GWR Hotels.

Re: Shortage of train crews on Great Western Railway - ongoing discussion
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 21:09, 3rd December 2024
 
... and rail fares will inevitably have to increase, just to pay for all that. 

Re: Shortage of train crews on Great Western Railway - ongoing discussion
Posted by TonyK at 21:04, 3rd December 2024
 

Interesting hypothesis given her caving in to ASLEF with a "no strings" pay award that made no progress on Sunday working.

No option but to make a “no strings”. All TOCs are on different T&C’s!

Should have been left as each individual TOC negotiated its own pay deals.

At least the crazy notion of the railways being privatised is coming to a rapid end, along with the façade of independence from government. It should be all back in public hands within not much more than a decade. There will be serious negotiations with the unions they get the best of each TOC's T&Cs for everyone across the board, after which the government of the day can start talking about weekend working.

Re: Tiger has indigestion - use lion, puma or cheetah instead!
Posted by chuffed at 20:57, 3rd December 2024
 
You have reminded me that the garage that usurped the 1954 station in Portishead had an absolutely huge stuffed Tony the tiger on the forecourt roof back in the 70s. I think there was a huge row...shouldn't that be ROAAAAR.... about planning permission....!

Re: CrossCountry upgrade will see 25% more rail seats
Posted by Clan Line at 20:50, 3rd December 2024
 
These trains are due for refurb so may mean the 2+1 seats are replaced with 2+2

Mmmmm ...............and if you replace the existing 2+2 seats with 2+3 seats that gives you 25% more seats (now where have I heard/seen that one before ??)  Gosh, I am getting cynical in my old age.

Re: Louise Haigh, Transport Secretary until 28 Nov 2024
Posted by TonyK at 20:44, 3rd December 2024
 
No, my advice to anyone sane is to forget about being a MP. Stick to something where you are universally adored, like presenting TV cookery competitions.

I seem to remember that didn't work out very well for MP and celebrity food writer Clement Freud...

I man I admired hugely, despite his dalliance with Parliament, until his reputation was posthumously wrecked. His association with the late Captain Sir Tom Moore may have saved him, until recent events, but I shall always remember his programme involving a dinner in a Viennese restaurant. He took out his wallet and said how lovely it was to visit a country where they put a picture of your grandfather on the banknotes for you.


And another gentleman (?) currently in the news.


Another day, another defenestration.

Re: North Cotswold Line delays and cancellations - 2024
Posted by charles_uk at 20:40, 3rd December 2024
 
A couple of short-formations this evening which will impact upon peak up services tomorrow morning:

Facilities on the 19:53 London Paddington to Hereford due 22:58.
Will be formed of 5 coaches instead of 9. There are no reservations on this service

Facilities on the 21:53 London Paddington to Worcester Shrub Hill due 00:01.
Will be formed of 5 coaches instead of 9. There are no reservations on this service

which seem to make up the stock for the next morning's 0523 Hereford to London Paddington and 0643 Worcester Shrub Hill to London Paddington services.

Re: South Western Railway to be renationalised - report
Posted by ChrisB at 18:33, 3rd December 2024
 
I'm surprised - there are 3 other TOCs whose break clauses expired this autumn & Chiltern whose break is at the end of March 2025. So SWT being the first are unlucky.....

Re: South Western Railway to be renationalised - report
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 18:27, 3rd December 2024
 
Thanks for posting, CyclingSid: we both posted at the same time, so I've merged our posts here.  CfN. 

 
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