Recent Public Posts - [guest]
| Re: To 'stockpile food' is now our Government's official policy, apparently In "The West - but NOT trains in the West" [381495/32456/31] Posted by Marlburian at 11:54, 31st October 2026 | ![]() |
| Re: North Cotswold line delays and cancellations - 2026 In "London to the Cotswolds" [381494/31371/14] Posted by charles_uk at 10:57, 31st October 2026 | ![]() |
10:50 Great Malvern to London Paddington due 13:27 has been cancelled.
This is due to a shortage of train crew.
Last Updated:31/10/2026 10:53
This is due to a shortage of train crew.
Last Updated:31/10/2026 10:53
| Re: Worcestershire Parkway Station project - ongoing discussion In "London to the Cotswolds" [381493/16141/14] Posted by IndustryInsider at 10:57, 31st October 2026 Already liked by Mark A | ![]() |
Second car park deck, now!

| Re: Last trains - Carlisle v Newcastle In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [381492/32676/51] Posted by IndustryInsider at 10:50, 31st October 2026 | ![]() |
What about the 2115 and 2345?
2345 is a sleeper, I think the post referenced the "last non sleeper train"Indeed. As is the 21:15...and that doesn't appear in journey planners and stops for 'staffing reasons' only according to RTT.
| Re: Last trains - Carlisle v Newcastle In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [381491/32676/51] Posted by grahame at 10:23, 31st October 2026 | ![]() |
I am struggling with connectivity in the Boondocks of Spain today - so please excuse this being patchy.
Correct - we have to consider split tickets when traveling from [Melksham/anywhere]. And we also should remember onward journeys - for example Annan, Dumfries, Whitehaven ...
| Re: Last trains - Carlisle v Newcastle In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [381490/32676/51] Posted by grahame at 09:55, 31st October 2026 | ![]() |
That is absolutely fascinating ...
| Re: Last trains - Carlisle v Newcastle In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [381489/32676/51] Posted by Mark A at 09:28, 31st October 2026 | ![]() |
Another MP obsessed with trains between London and the constituency. ...
Last train Melksham to Carlisle 16:39, to Newcastle 18:53 (if you count an 01:35 arrival as 'same day') ... with 12 ticket journey sales year between Melksham and Carlisle, and 8 between Melksham and Newcastle, there's hardly a mass transit flow there that warrants timetable changes to suite!
Recalling a conversation on the platform, I remembered being impressed that there was someone heading for... Accrington and now further impressed by the range of destinations people head to from... Melksham. 12 to Carlisle and 8 to Newcastle in a year and, hidden from view, an unknown number of people travelling on split tickets... it would be good to query the rail ticketing system for something like 'Annual journeys from Melksham that are over 'x' miles in length but exclude the top 5 destinations' - for a range of values of 'x' and then plot the result on a graph.
Mass transit is viewed by the likes of SWR-as-was as large passenger flows to a particular destination (and back: I should name-check Waterloo Sunset at this point..).
From the individual's perspective, mass transit enables the particular journey they need to make: if they travel by train they make that journey on a mass transit system. Those individual journeys that do not align with one of the big passenger flows, from the point of view of the railways, aren't the icing on the cake, they're very much part of the cake itself, simply because there are a lot of them and in terms of sustaining the system, they contribute.
Oh, hang on, here is such a graph, courtesy of guess what, so the first question has to be 'That's a suspiciously lovely curve, what is it showing and does this graph pass a sanity check?'

Lets run the plot again but include the top five destinations:

OK, the above not being the result of my work, I'm now going to sit down and reflect on what I am learning, not all of which concerns rail passenger figures...
| Re: Last trains - Carlisle v Newcastle In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [381488/32676/51] Posted by TaplowGreen at 09:08, 31st October 2026 | ![]() |
Both those Sleeper trains from Euston allow seated passengers on Advance Purchase and regular tickets just like the rest of the day. Only differences are compulsory reservation if you are using a regular ticket, and no 2115 or 2345 on Saturdays.
Hence my comment "Last non sleeper train to Plymouth during the week is the 2104 from Paddington".
I was referring to Hafren's comment "I note that Plymouth's last non-sleeper train is similarly earlier than Swansea's, with similar running time (if we round liberally). One is offset by the sleeper while the other involves the political advantage of a capital city". which you challenged.
Possibly you're at cross purposes?
| Re: Last trains - Carlisle v Newcastle In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [381487/32676/51] Posted by JayMac at 08:33, 31st October 2026 | ![]() |
Both those Sleeper trains from Euston allow seated passengers on Advance Purchase and regular tickets just like the rest of the day. Only differences are compulsory reservation if you are using a regular ticket, and no 2115 or 2345 on Saturdays.
| Re: Last trains - Carlisle v Newcastle In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [381486/32676/51] Posted by TaplowGreen at 08:14, 31st October 2026 | ![]() |
What about the 2115 and 2345?
2345 is a sleeper, I think the post referenced the "last non sleeper train"
Last non sleeper train to Plymouth during the week is the 2104 from Paddington.
| Re: Starting homeward bound In "Introductions and chat" [381485/32671/1] Posted by grahame at 07:54, 31st October 2026 | ![]() |
Bit of a repeat here - written up for "Interrailing for the older crowd" and much more of a train-based desciption than a put on the Coffee Shop yesterday.
Travelling from Porto to Madrid, we took the only international train running from Portugal to Spain at present. Porto (San Bento) to Porto (Campagnha) on a suburban train, to Entrocamento on a high speed express running north to south in Portugal, then a railcar that runs just twice a day through desolate country to Badajoz in Spain. We chose to stop there for 2 nights before carrying on to Madrid on the (again) twice daily express.
It worked for us, and I would recommend it for Interrailers. You get to see a huge variety, but definitely more adventure travel than you'll get on an escorted tour - thank goodness. Booking - interesting. Reservations needed on the main Porto to Entrocamento service, which we did in person. Original passports and tickets on phone needed; the clerk insisted on both "real" and I had to go back to the hotel where Lisa was resting to get hers - pictures on the phone which had previously sufficed did not do so here. The suburban train from the centre in Sao Bento to Campagnha is an easy 4 minutes, and even on that there are wonderful views down over the river. I recommend taking a train earlier than the one the journey planner defaults to - there were some suburban trains running late and the extra 15 minutes is re-assuring.
The express from Porto was crowded and left a few minutes late. We "helped" some lost tourists who weren't aware of coach numbers our of our reserved seats in our very full carriage, and explained to them how to find the number of a carriage after their initial strong instance they were correctly seated. We then, somehow, found space for our backpack, case and Lisa's mobility aid in a carriage the looked like it had been designed with a view to posh business traveller use with limited luggage. Works along the way slowed the train at times, and from an initial 10 minute delay we were 35 down by Entrocamento, and concerned at our 38 minute change. A word with the train manager as he came through was re-assuring, though we know enough about these things to be aware that he COULD simply have said that to pass us on as a problem out of his hands.
Yes, we made the connection into the last train of the day into Spain - scheduled 13:36, actually left at around 13:45 or so and maintaining connections from Porto (our train) from the north and Lisbon from the south which arrived even after us. A really old one carriage "railcar" from the bay in the north end of the platform, vintage 1955 and refurbished 2003 according to Wikipedia. Very much a community train. Started off "nesting" - Nearly Every Seat Taken - and thinned out along the way. From being separated and in less than ideal seats, Lisa and I were able to join each other perhaps half an hour into the nearly-3-hour journey. An old railcar, a low platform and a challenge for anyone to board, let alone us with a mobility aid. If Lisa was chair-bound, it would have not been possible.
The countryside started along a sleepy river valley then onto dry higher ground, pausing at the occasional station to drop off a handful or people at each and pick up a very few more. We passed the railcar coming the other way mid-journey and crept into the little bay platform at Badajoz, almost apologetic, on time at 17:26. Staff on train polite and helpful; locals in Iberia seem to be aloof and very much "survival of the fittest" in boarding trains and grabbing even the priority seats.
And so, Badajoz. There's an 8 minute connection into the Madrid train which was sitting just across the platform, and the staff on that train - good on them - checked for connecting passengers. There may have been one of two, but most of the handful still on the train from Portugal were going no further that evening, and we rolled out of the station and to our hotel.
Journey resumes - 36 hours later. 2 trains a day, Badajoz to Madrid, too early and too late to be convenient. Up before the crack of dawn, no-one around except for a couple of street cleaners as we wheeled back up to the station, which is some distance from the city centre across the river and up a hill. But then the station was crowded, awaiting the arrival of the train which turned around and left - with us on board - 10 minutes later at 07:21. Renfe chap rushed to help us board; Lisa's folding chair comes as a surprise and we are getting use to panicking staff in Spain who see us and assume we need help.
Again, a journey over dry plains, this time at up to 199kms per hour. Train was an older "Talgo" - seats looked good but were not the most comfortable for me. Buffet car / counter provided a much needed cup of coffee and pack of peanuts, and a trolley came through in due course too - and so a largely uneventful run into Madrid, Midday arrival, and where we were able to check into our hotel early before grabbing a bite to eat.
Would I recommend the journey? For observant and inquisitive travellers with time, yes. I might look to add a stop at Entrocamento to see the railway museum there, and cut nights to just one in Badajoz if travelling solo. Hotels - Mila Porto (Porto), Turia (Badajoz) and Howard Voel suites (Madrid) all recommended, as close (closEST in Badajoz!) to the station and with lifts. If we had needed wheelchair access all the way - not an ideal journey.
As an after-comment, the dreadful rail accident in Spain at Urda happened as we left Porto; our journey was on the next "spoke" of the Spanish network into Madrid, and although we passed close to Toledo it did not affect our train. We arrived at Atocha where both trains involved had started from. As a terminal, it felt quiet; I have no idea how it is normally, mind. Flags on buildings around at half mast, and our thoughts very much with those hurt, the families of those deceased and all the staff - emergency services and rail - involved.
It worked for us, and I would recommend it for Interrailers. You get to see a huge variety, but definitely more adventure travel than you'll get on an escorted tour - thank goodness. Booking - interesting. Reservations needed on the main Porto to Entrocamento service, which we did in person. Original passports and tickets on phone needed; the clerk insisted on both "real" and I had to go back to the hotel where Lisa was resting to get hers - pictures on the phone which had previously sufficed did not do so here. The suburban train from the centre in Sao Bento to Campagnha is an easy 4 minutes, and even on that there are wonderful views down over the river. I recommend taking a train earlier than the one the journey planner defaults to - there were some suburban trains running late and the extra 15 minutes is re-assuring.
The express from Porto was crowded and left a few minutes late. We "helped" some lost tourists who weren't aware of coach numbers our of our reserved seats in our very full carriage, and explained to them how to find the number of a carriage after their initial strong instance they were correctly seated. We then, somehow, found space for our backpack, case and Lisa's mobility aid in a carriage the looked like it had been designed with a view to posh business traveller use with limited luggage. Works along the way slowed the train at times, and from an initial 10 minute delay we were 35 down by Entrocamento, and concerned at our 38 minute change. A word with the train manager as he came through was re-assuring, though we know enough about these things to be aware that he COULD simply have said that to pass us on as a problem out of his hands.
Yes, we made the connection into the last train of the day into Spain - scheduled 13:36, actually left at around 13:45 or so and maintaining connections from Porto (our train) from the north and Lisbon from the south which arrived even after us. A really old one carriage "railcar" from the bay in the north end of the platform, vintage 1955 and refurbished 2003 according to Wikipedia. Very much a community train. Started off "nesting" - Nearly Every Seat Taken - and thinned out along the way. From being separated and in less than ideal seats, Lisa and I were able to join each other perhaps half an hour into the nearly-3-hour journey. An old railcar, a low platform and a challenge for anyone to board, let alone us with a mobility aid. If Lisa was chair-bound, it would have not been possible.
The countryside started along a sleepy river valley then onto dry higher ground, pausing at the occasional station to drop off a handful or people at each and pick up a very few more. We passed the railcar coming the other way mid-journey and crept into the little bay platform at Badajoz, almost apologetic, on time at 17:26. Staff on train polite and helpful; locals in Iberia seem to be aloof and very much "survival of the fittest" in boarding trains and grabbing even the priority seats.
And so, Badajoz. There's an 8 minute connection into the Madrid train which was sitting just across the platform, and the staff on that train - good on them - checked for connecting passengers. There may have been one of two, but most of the handful still on the train from Portugal were going no further that evening, and we rolled out of the station and to our hotel.
Journey resumes - 36 hours later. 2 trains a day, Badajoz to Madrid, too early and too late to be convenient. Up before the crack of dawn, no-one around except for a couple of street cleaners as we wheeled back up to the station, which is some distance from the city centre across the river and up a hill. But then the station was crowded, awaiting the arrival of the train which turned around and left - with us on board - 10 minutes later at 07:21. Renfe chap rushed to help us board; Lisa's folding chair comes as a surprise and we are getting use to panicking staff in Spain who see us and assume we need help.
Again, a journey over dry plains, this time at up to 199kms per hour. Train was an older "Talgo" - seats looked good but were not the most comfortable for me. Buffet car / counter provided a much needed cup of coffee and pack of peanuts, and a trolley came through in due course too - and so a largely uneventful run into Madrid, Midday arrival, and where we were able to check into our hotel early before grabbing a bite to eat.
Would I recommend the journey? For observant and inquisitive travellers with time, yes. I might look to add a stop at Entrocamento to see the railway museum there, and cut nights to just one in Badajoz if travelling solo. Hotels - Mila Porto (Porto), Turia (Badajoz) and Howard Voel suites (Madrid) all recommended, as close (closEST in Badajoz!) to the station and with lifts. If we had needed wheelchair access all the way - not an ideal journey.
As an after-comment, the dreadful rail accident in Spain at Urda happened as we left Porto; our journey was on the next "spoke" of the Spanish network into Madrid, and although we passed close to Toledo it did not affect our train. We arrived at Atocha where both trains involved had started from. As a terminal, it felt quiet; I have no idea how it is normally, mind. Flags on buildings around at half mast, and our thoughts very much with those hurt, the families of those deceased and all the staff - emergency services and rail - involved.
The highlights an lowlights in terms of UK comparisons?
* The availability on express trains of a fixed counter where you can get a coffee and a packet of peanuts from a known location and when you want them
* The holding of connections into thinner services
* The need to book / reserve ahead of time with ID required as you do so
* The apparent reduced emphasis on safety here; I find it hard to imagine (and don't want to be proved wrong!) that the UK would let trains proceed again at anything more than a slow pace in the event of a signal issue.
| Re: Last trains - Carlisle v Newcastle In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [381484/32676/51] Posted by JayMac at 05:44, 31st October 2026 Already liked by lympstone_commuter | ![]() |
What about the 2115 and 2345?
| Re: Last trains - Carlisle v Newcastle In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [381483/32676/51] Posted by Hafren at 23:40, 30th October 2026 | ![]() |
Not totally sure this comes down to privatisation; I suspect the situation wasn't so different before! There is a later train to Carlisle at 23:50. But not useful for those who prefer to who want to go home and get some minimal sleep before the next day rather than sleep on the train, and the sleeper doesn't serve as many intermediate stations as a 'proper' last train would. Has the sleeper suppressed late evening options...?
I note that Plymouth's last non-sleeper train is similarly earlier than Swansea's, with similar running time (if we round liberally). One is offset by the sleeper while the other involves the political advantage of a capital city.
| Re: Spain - 69 dead after two trains collide south of Madrid - 28 October 2026 In "The Wider Picture Overseas" [381482/32669/52] Posted by grahame at 22:49, 30th October 2026 | ![]() |
Not sure of the veracity of this ...
Malaga-Madrid flight fares rocket to up to 400 euros. Passengers are calling for a cap on all fares for alternative modes of transport in the wake of rail tragedies such as the one in Urda.
| Re: Late November and Christmas closure of Paddington & alternative travel options In "Across the West" [381481/32677/26] Posted by TaplowGreen at 22:17, 30th October 2026 Already liked by grahame | ![]() |
The earliest date involved is a month away so is it really a problem if they won't see any responses until Monday? Sending that sort of comms out is very much the type of task I would have finished on a Friday to avoid overlooking it after a weekend off.
It gives news that may be bad time to settle and fade. From https://davebusiek.substack.com/p/beware-the-friday-news-dump
The online Political Dictionary says, “By releasing significant information on a Friday, individuals or organizations hope that the news will receive limited media coverage and public attention, allowing controversial or unfavorable news to go relatively unnoticed or fade quickly.”
I learned this lesson early in my reporting career ...
I learned this lesson early in my reporting career ...
And indeed I too have "got stuff out before the weekend". Where the "Public Affairs" teams do this regularly, and fail to follow up even with people who write in the following week, I get to an uneasy feeling that it may be being done to try to minimised any need to deal with incoming consequential questions.
Also known as "fire & forget"
| Re: To 'stockpile food' is now our Government's official policy, apparently In "The West - but NOT trains in the West" [381480/32456/31] Posted by TaplowGreen at 21:53, 30th October 2026 | ![]() |
Some of us may know of the old Home Office buffer stores where emergency rations were stored. There was one outside Wallingford close to the station, another on the Didcot, Newbury & Southampton line at Hermitage (or was that a cold store) and another between Steventon and Grove, served by a siding off the GWR. The first two were retained for some years after rail services ceased, and on the site of the one at Wallingford is a very new housing estate.
When there was a firemen's strike decades ago, army fire engines known as Green Goddesses stored at Steventon were deployed. As I was cycling on the main road between Tilehurst and Pangbourne, a column of them came the other way.
When there was a firemen's strike decades ago, army fire engines known as Green Goddesses stored at Steventon were deployed. As I was cycling on the main road between Tilehurst and Pangbourne, a column of them came the other way.
Buffer, or buffet?
| Re: Spain - 69 dead after two trains collide south of Madrid - 28 October 2026 In "The Wider Picture Overseas" [381479/32669/52] Posted by JayMac at 21:51, 30th October 2026 | ![]() |
There are reports in the Spanish media, unconfirmed, that two other trains in the area affected by the system failure were given instruction to proceed at line speed, one in each direction heading to the incident location. One driver refused the instruction and the other proceeded, only to be stopped when the OHLE failed following the collision.
Had that first driver acceded to the instruction to proceed and had the OHLE stayed energised...
Screenshots of Google translated news items from El Mundo and El Confidencial.
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Some of us may know of the old Home Office buffer stores where emergency rations were stored. There was one outside Watlington close to the station, another on the Didcot, Newbury & Southampton line at Hermitage (or was that a cold store) and another between Steventon and Grove, served by a siding off the GWR. The first two were retained for some years after rail services ceased, and on the site of the one at Wallingford is a very new housing estate.
When there was a firemen's strike decades ago, army fire engines known as Green Goddesses stored at Steventon were deployed. As I was cycling on the main road between Tilehurst and Pangbourne, a column of them came the other way.
| Re: Last trains - Carlisle v Newcastle In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [381477/32676/51] Posted by grahame at 21:30, 30th October 2026 | ![]() |
Another MP obsessed with trains between London and the constituency. ...
Last train Melksham to Carlisle 16:39, to Newcastle 18:53 (if you count an 01:35 arrival as 'same day') ... with 12 ticket journey sales year between Melksham and Carlisle, and 8 between Melksham and Newcastle, there's hardly a mass transit flow there that warrants timetable changes to suite!
| Re: Last trains - Carlisle v Newcastle In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [381476/32676/51] Posted by Ralph Ayres at 21:12, 30th October 2026 | ![]() |
Another MP obsessed with trains between London and the constituency. Haven't they got the message that everything being London-centric is out of fashion? In the case of Carlisle a decent last train home from Newcastle is ironically probably more relevant for many purposes, though I see that is currently also rather early. Last train home from Manchester if he ever visits No. 10 North isn't significantly later than from London.
| Re: Late November and Christmas closure of Paddington & alternative travel options In "Across the West" [381475/32677/26] Posted by grahame at 21:06, 30th October 2026 Already liked by TaplowGreen | ![]() |
The earliest date involved is a month away so is it really a problem if they won't see any responses until Monday? Sending that sort of comms out is very much the type of task I would have finished on a Friday to avoid overlooking it after a weekend off.
It gives news that may be bad time to settle and fade. From https://davebusiek.substack.com/p/beware-the-friday-news-dump
The online Political Dictionary says, “By releasing significant information on a Friday, individuals or organizations hope that the news will receive limited media coverage and public attention, allowing controversial or unfavorable news to go relatively unnoticed or fade quickly.”
I learned this lesson early in my reporting career ...
I learned this lesson early in my reporting career ...
And indeed I too have "got stuff out before the weekend". Where the "Public Affairs" teams do this regularly, and fail to follow up even with people who write in the following week, I get to an uneasy feeling that it may be being done to try to minimised any need to deal with incoming consequential questions.
| Re: Late November and Christmas closure of Paddington & alternative travel options In "Across the West" [381474/32677/26] Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 20:55, 30th October 2026 | ![]() |
No, that's not a problem in itself, Ralph Ayres.
However, it perhaps demonstrates a rather cynical attitude from senior staff in 'public affairs' roles.
When grahame previously responded, with constructive comments and suggestions, after the weekend (and indeed after several more weekends), he received no response whatever.
If the Great Western Railway and Network Rail 'Public Affairs' departments don't want the answer, why do they ask the question?
CfN.

From the BBC:
Hope for stranded canal boats with tunnel repair plan

Boaters on the last mile of the Kennet and Avon Canal have been left cut off from the rest of the canal network
A temporary repair could allow stranded canal boats to move again after a road tunnel over the waterway was damaged during roadworks.
The damage happened at the 200-year-old tunnel on the Kennet and Avon Canal in Bath, beneath the A36 Beckford Road.
Bath and North East Somerset Council is proposing a "temporary shield" to let boats pass safely while a permanent repair is designed.
The Canal and River Trust said the design was being worked on and the canal section and towpath would "remain closed until further notice".
Contractors broke through the tunnel's brick roof on 9 October while carrying out roadworks for the council.
The closure has cut off the final mile (about 1.96km) of the canal from the rest of the network, leaving boaters unable to continue their journeys.
The timing has added to the problem, with boaters who usually spend the summer on the River Avon moving onto the canal to avoid flooding. Boats are now crowding into the short stretch, with no way out except back onto the river.
The tunnel and towpath have been closed on safety grounds since the damage, while a one-lane closure remains in place on Beckford Road. The road restrictions have caused long queues and prompted safety concerns.
(BBC article continues)

Boaters on the last mile of the Kennet and Avon Canal have been left cut off from the rest of the canal network
A temporary repair could allow stranded canal boats to move again after a road tunnel over the waterway was damaged during roadworks.
The damage happened at the 200-year-old tunnel on the Kennet and Avon Canal in Bath, beneath the A36 Beckford Road.
Bath and North East Somerset Council is proposing a "temporary shield" to let boats pass safely while a permanent repair is designed.
The Canal and River Trust said the design was being worked on and the canal section and towpath would "remain closed until further notice".
Contractors broke through the tunnel's brick roof on 9 October while carrying out roadworks for the council.
The closure has cut off the final mile (about 1.96km) of the canal from the rest of the network, leaving boaters unable to continue their journeys.
The timing has added to the problem, with boaters who usually spend the summer on the River Avon moving onto the canal to avoid flooding. Boats are now crowding into the short stretch, with no way out except back onto the river.
The tunnel and towpath have been closed on safety grounds since the damage, while a one-lane closure remains in place on Beckford Road. The road restrictions have caused long queues and prompted safety concerns.
(BBC article continues)
| Re: Late November and Christmas closure of Paddington & alternative travel options In "Across the West" [381472/32677/26] Posted by Ralph Ayres at 20:37, 30th October 2026 | ![]() |
The earliest date involved is a month away so is it really a problem if they won't see any responses until Monday? Sending that sort of comms out is very much the type of task I would have finished on a Friday to avoid overlooking it after a weekend off.
I share your disappointment, grahame.
That does seem to have become something of a habit for both of those senior 'Public Affairs' staff, Olivia & Heledd - sending out such e-mails on a Friday afternoon, just as they leave their respective offices for the weekend.
CfN.

| Re: Spain - 69 dead after two trains collide south of Madrid - 28 October 2026 In "The Wider Picture Overseas" [381470/32669/52] Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 20:09, 30th October 2026 | ![]() |
Thank you for posting here in such detail, grahame.
As a fellow administrator on this forum, I have no issue: you are, fortunately or perhaps unfortunately, able to post such comments 'live from the scene' in Spain.
I have simply added a definition for IRYO to our forum's 'abbreviations page', for clarity.
CfN.

| Late November and Christmas closure of Paddington & alternative travel options In "Across the West" [381469/32677/26] Posted by grahame at 19:39, 30th October 2026 | ![]() |
Receive from GWR and NR this afternoon, shared as per their request to help them maximise reach
Dear Graham
We wanted to make you aware of upcoming railway upgrade work in the Thames Valley which will affect all journeys to and from London Paddington in November and over the Christmas period.
Dolphin Junction in Slough carries more than 400 trains and 10,000 passengers every day, making it critical to the railway network in the Thames Valley and beyond. On Saturday 28 and Sunday 29 November, and between Sunday 27 December and Sunday 3 January, we’ll be replacing the eastern side of the junction, installing track in a new layout using state-of-the-art components to support more reliable journeys to and from London Paddington.
During these periods, we’ll be keeping people moving, but passengers should plan ahead, allow extra time and check journey planners before travelling. When London Paddington is unavailable, passengers will still be able to get where they need to go, with alternative routes via London Euston, London Waterloo and London Marylebone, alongside TfL services across London and the Thames Valley. However, we are encouraging all passengers to plan ahead, allow extra time and check journey planners before travelling. Full details are available at GWR.com/Upgrade.
The majority of GWR services will start and finish at Reading, with long-distance services from South Wales and the West of England (Bristol area) diverted to London Euston. GWR’s Thames Valley branch line services will continue to operate, with the exception of the Greenford branch. Connections to central London will also be available via SWR services to London Waterloo and Chiltern Railways services to London Marylebone respectively.
Elizabeth line and Heathrow Express services are also affected, starting again from New Year’s Eve. GWR services to and from London Paddington will resume as normal from Monday 4 January.
Journey planners are now up to date with travel information through to 4 January, allowing passengers to plan their Christmas and New Year journeys in advance.
Given the scale of the work, we would appreciate any help you can give to share this information with your networks, particularly the alternative routes available. Further information can be found at GWR.com/Upgrade and nationalrail.co.uk/dolphinjunction.
Thank you for your patience while we complete this important work to improve the reliability of the railway. Please do let us know if there’s anything else you need.
Best wishes,
Olivia & Heledd
Olivia Willett | Deputy Head of Public Affairs | Great Western Railway
Heledd Iolo | Senior Public Affairs Manager | Network Rail
We wanted to make you aware of upcoming railway upgrade work in the Thames Valley which will affect all journeys to and from London Paddington in November and over the Christmas period.
Dolphin Junction in Slough carries more than 400 trains and 10,000 passengers every day, making it critical to the railway network in the Thames Valley and beyond. On Saturday 28 and Sunday 29 November, and between Sunday 27 December and Sunday 3 January, we’ll be replacing the eastern side of the junction, installing track in a new layout using state-of-the-art components to support more reliable journeys to and from London Paddington.
During these periods, we’ll be keeping people moving, but passengers should plan ahead, allow extra time and check journey planners before travelling. When London Paddington is unavailable, passengers will still be able to get where they need to go, with alternative routes via London Euston, London Waterloo and London Marylebone, alongside TfL services across London and the Thames Valley. However, we are encouraging all passengers to plan ahead, allow extra time and check journey planners before travelling. Full details are available at GWR.com/Upgrade.
The majority of GWR services will start and finish at Reading, with long-distance services from South Wales and the West of England (Bristol area) diverted to London Euston. GWR’s Thames Valley branch line services will continue to operate, with the exception of the Greenford branch. Connections to central London will also be available via SWR services to London Waterloo and Chiltern Railways services to London Marylebone respectively.
Elizabeth line and Heathrow Express services are also affected, starting again from New Year’s Eve. GWR services to and from London Paddington will resume as normal from Monday 4 January.
Journey planners are now up to date with travel information through to 4 January, allowing passengers to plan their Christmas and New Year journeys in advance.
Given the scale of the work, we would appreciate any help you can give to share this information with your networks, particularly the alternative routes available. Further information can be found at GWR.com/Upgrade and nationalrail.co.uk/dolphinjunction.
Thank you for your patience while we complete this important work to improve the reliability of the railway. Please do let us know if there’s anything else you need.
Best wishes,
Olivia & Heledd
Olivia Willett | Deputy Head of Public Affairs | Great Western Railway
Heledd Iolo | Senior Public Affairs Manager | Network Rail
As seems to be standard for these communications, received on a Friday afternoon - POETS day. Past experience suggests that letting them know if there's anything else we need, as per the invite, may (or may not) be heeded. Being kind to Olivia and Heledd, they may make use of inputs so received, but certainly don't rely on hearing back is you email them; they have not promised a response.
| Re: To 'stockpile food' is now our Government's official policy, apparently In "The West - but NOT trains in the West" [381468/32456/31] Posted by grahame at 19:24, 30th October 2026 | ![]() |
Governments telling us to stockpile much more officially now - so what do they know? Mar-a-largo being equipped with surface to air missiles (defence??). US military training soldiers to dig mass graves. Russia Is Ready For War With Europe, Putin Warns. What was going on at Fairford? Trump threatens Iran escalation after the mid-terms.
This thread, I note, is in "The West, but not trains in The West". Am I straying too far from trains?
| Re: Spain - 69 dead after two trains collide south of Madrid - 28 October 2026 In "The Wider Picture Overseas" [381467/32669/52] Posted by grahame at 18:29, 30th October 2026 | ![]() |
In the aftermath of a UK accident, we are very careful on the Coffee Shop not to speculate and place blame until there is official indication of what happened. In this (Spanish) case the evidence has very much emerged into the public domain, and I may be tempted to comment. The more so because we arrived into Madrid's Atocha station this morning, where both of the two trains had departed from. My first time here - I can't say whether or not it was quieter than normal, but flag on buildings around are flying at half mast and it didn't have the hustle and bustle I would expect at a major London terminal.
So - how do I analyse this as the "local" reporter and yet with no more evidence than that available to other readers?
"There is never just one failure that leads to an accident" we often say, and even after multiple failures it comes down to elements of luck.
1. The Computer (signalling) system failed and brought loads of trains to a halt. We don't know why as yet, I don't think, and we don't know if this was a regular happening or the first time it had happened. And we don't know if it was component failure, operator failure, data failure or even some sort of malicious attack.
2. The IRYO train (the one in front) was also told to proceed but having come to halt, the driver could not get it to restart / reboot. Again, much we don't know - was this a design issue, a training issue, or something that's a perfectly normal set of circumstances when there's an unexpected shutdown and (!) for saftey the train won't restart. Again, we don't know whether these were common circumstances (not restarting) or this was unique
3. Instructions from control to the RENFE (rear) train to proceed without restriction on speed are described as "inexplicable", and in hindsight they were, but perhaps at the time if both the IRYO and RENFE trains had restarted, both would have moved into the / an area where the signalling was working and proceeded on their way - no smash, no public comment, perhaps praise to control for sorting things out.
4. Did the people in control have the correct systems and management to ensure that the systems were safe and that came first, above getting the trains running again after a signalling failure
There is much, much more to learn. The guy who told the trains to proceed must be in mental turmoil, whether or not his action was a unique and foolish one, or whether it was something that was common practise in manual control and it went horribly wrong this time, or somewhere between. The lady driving the IRYO train must also be torn - if only (for what ever reason) had got the darned thing on the move there would probably not have been an accident. And the driver of the RENFE train ... had not been accounted from what I read. The people who specified, designed, installed and looked after the day to day maintenance and operation of the signalling system will almost certainly by mortified with concerns too - we cannot specifically place them as we can other players. And the people who set the safety framework for rail travel in Spain, and implement it, must be asked and be asking of they got this right.
I have written - an extraordinary amount - outside the forum norm so soon after an accident. If my fellow moderators feel I have overstepped the mark, please move this post out of public view.
| Re: Oxford Street, London has been pedestrianised In "Active travel: Cyclists and walkers, including how the railways deal with them" [381466/32663/50] Posted by Marlburian at 18:00, 30th October 2026 | ![]() |














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