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Re: Bus station the most feral part of any town
In "The Lighter Side" [371615/31525/30]
Posted by Timmer at 19:14, 26th January 2026
 
Bercy bus station Paris. Where travel vloggers fear to tread and I would imagine most  people who have to use it.

Re: Number of police forces in England and Wales to be cut in major shake-up
In "The West - but NOT trains in the West" [371614/31503/31]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 19:07, 26th January 2026
 
City of London, apparently.  [Image from here is not available to guests]

Re: Swindon <-> Westbury service updates and amendments, ongoing discussion - 2026
In "TransWilts line" [371613/31359/18]
Posted by grahame at 19:06, 26th January 2026
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Might be very useful to you in terms of charting performance/timings over an extended period?
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I am rather suspecting that performance records stretching back to the last decade would set me off on a tangent I can do without.

Re: Bus station the most feral part of any town
In "The Lighter Side" [371612/31525/30]
Posted by Oxonhutch at 18:56, 26th January 2026
 
Having travelled around the US by Greyhound in 1979 as teenager, I can attest to this in spades.

Re: Stanfords - map shop(s)
In "The West - but NOT trains in the West" [371611/31524/31]
Posted by froome at 18:54, 26th January 2026
 
In Bristol, we used to have the excellent Georges bookshops, on Park Street - there were three of them, on the left hand side walking up.

One of them was where I met Harold Wilson, who was there to sign copies of his book, 'The Governance of Britain'. I didn't buy one, I just offered him a sheet of paper - which he autographed: I remember saying to him, "Thank you, sir". I was with a group of fellow sixth-formers, who had all sneaked out of school simply to attend that book signing. [Image from here is not available to guests]



George's (note the placement of the apostrophe - we'll come back to that) was just one shop - 89 Park St - when I was a boy. Spent many happy hours there, exploring all four floors and multiple levels, and buying many a book. I think they over-expanded when they moved into 87 and 85, and then sadly rebranded as Blackwell's - the Oxford bookseller who had actually owned the business since the 1920's.

Why was the apostrophe where it was? Because it was William George's Sons Ltd. William, incidentally, started selling books in his uncle's bookshop at 26 Clare Street - more or less opposite Stanford's. He moved the business to Park St in either 1851 or 1871 (depending on who you believe). Perhaps he thought Clare St was a silly place for a bookshop?

Yes, I spent many happy hours in George's as well, and perhaps even more in Chapter and Verse, another bookshop which was on the opposite side of Park Street directly opposite George's.

I have also been to Stanford's in Bristol many times, and it was usually quite busy most times I visited, though obviously not everyone will be buying when they visit. The map basement was where I usually headed for. I did go to Stanford's about 10 days ago, to buy a specific map I wanted, only to find that they had just closed the basement as they had boxed up all the maps to be sent to their London store. I can feel a visit to London coming up soon.

Re: "Stone-roads" Weedon Bec
In "Railway History and related topics" [371610/31526/55]
Posted by Oxonhutch at 18:54, 26th January 2026
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Often when you had heavy loads going in one direction - the stone road making haulage easier.

Re: Class 175s to Great Western Railway (GWR)
In "Across the West" [371609/28982/26]
Posted by REVUpminster at 18:50, 26th January 2026
 
Have we got any green ones yet?
As these are a stop gap, very unlikely to be repainted and the future of regional liveries is up in the air with the possible new GBR livery.

Re: Number of police forces in England and Wales to be cut in major shake-up
In "The West - but NOT trains in the West" [371608/31503/31]
Posted by JayMac at 18:50, 26th January 2026
 
What is the smallest police force in the UK based on number of warranted constables?

"Stone-roads" Weedon Bec
In "Railway History and related topics" [371607/31526/55]
Posted by Mark A at 18:25, 26th January 2026
 
A photo of Watling Street, so rather out of the Coffeeshop area, but useful as it shows rural road conditions at the turn of the 20th Century, albeit a road in quite good condition. Perhaps useful as a reminder of the nature of the roads people might encounter on leaving a railway station.

Also, that puzzle. A 'Stone-road', and just 700 yards of it. What were persons unknown up to with that...

Mark

https://historicengland.org.uk/images-books/photos/item/AA97/05859

Bus station the most feral part of any town
In "The Lighter Side" [371606/31525/30]
Posted by matth1j at 18:22, 26th January 2026
 
https://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/society/bus-station-the-most-feral-part-of-any-town-20260126263703

THE bus station of every town and city is a wild, lawless place where society has broken down entirely and madness reigns, studies have confirmed.

Researchers found that any terminal where buses begin and end journeys inevitably, for reasons unknown, devolved into a post-apocalyptic Mad Max environment where the weak are prey for the strong and the 87 to Eyres Monsell never comes.

Professor Henry Brubaker, of the Institute for Studies, said: “Our findings won’t come as a surprise to any unfortunate souls who’ve found themselves in these shanties of the damned. McDonald’s after 11pm comes a notable second.

“All of the signs are wrong, there’s bird shit everywhere, every horizontal surface is coveed in spikes and the reek of piss is ever-present. They’re not so much vital parts of the public transport infrastructure as a preview of the nightmare to come.

“Pity anyone forced to use them on a daily basis. Herds of depressed commuters, all who know they’re only one wrong glance away from a riot kicking off? Protected only by their earbuds and their indifference? A grimy, vaping hell.

“The only way to escape these ghettos is to make a cursed deal with the sullen-faced wardens who despise them the most: bus drivers.”

Regular bus traveller Martin Bishop said: “Bus stations aren’t that bad. If you know a better place to buy 15 kilos of dog hair for two teeth, I’d like to hear it.”

Re: Splitting the Northern Line into two
In "Transport for London" [371605/31523/46]
Posted by eightonedee at 18:01, 26th January 2026
 
....or rename one "The Yerkes Line"!

Re: Number of police forces in England and Wales to be cut in major shake-up
In "The West - but NOT trains in the West" [371604/31503/31]
Posted by eightonedee at 17:48, 26th January 2026
 
I could see an option of a Kent and Essex joining in a combined force, there is a lot of crime across the Thames with the bad guys making use of the Thames crossings and the current disconnection of the policing

Two objections to that ET!

1 - It seems that the Government's second main policy proposal, apart from amalgamation of the current county/regional forces, is that serious crime becomes the responsibility of a new FBI-style national serious crime body, who would presumably have this kind of organised criminality in their remit

2 - The communications between the two comprise just the Thames crossing - tunnel north-bound, Queen Elizabeth Bridge southbound, both notorious bottlenecks on the M25. Dealing with a major accident or incident (say) in Colchester from a special unit based in Maidstone, or vice versa doesn't bear thinking about, so you would probably have to duplicate facilities either side of the crossing, negating the savings from amalgamation. As pointed out in my previous post on this thread, police work is very much more than solving crimes, and dealing with major accidents is very much at the upper end of the rest of their work.

Re: Stanfords - map shop(s)
In "The West - but NOT trains in the West" [371603/31524/31]
Posted by eightonedee at 17:37, 26th January 2026
 
That sounds very much like what happened to Reading's main independent bookseller, William Smith (no relation!) that used to be in London Street. It suffered a major fire in the early 1970s, after which there was a big sale of fire-damaged stock. I acquired an almost undamaged 7th edition One Inch (1/63,630) unfolded OS sheet 178 (Dorchester) which in due course (about 10 years later) I framed and hung on my office wall. Somewhere in the house there's a slightly smoke-damaged copy of Monkhouse's Principles of Physical Geography I acquired at the same time.

The shop moved to (if I recall correctly) King's Road, and in due course was acquired by, and rebranded as, Blackwells too. It closed in the era when Waterstones effectively took control of the serious book market in the 2000s, but they kept a store at the University.

The old London Street store had a well-regarded second-hand department, but I think almost all its stock perished in the fire. The premises were the site of an early Quaker meeting dating back to the end of the 17th century.

Re: Stanfords - map shop(s)
In "The West - but NOT trains in the West" [371602/31524/31]
Posted by eXPassenger at 17:27, 26th January 2026
 
In Bristol, we used to have the excellent Georges bookshops, on Park Street - there were three of them, on the left hand side walking up.

One of them was where I met Harold Wilson, who was there to sign copies of his book, 'The Governance of Britain'. I didn't buy one, I just offered him a sheet of paper - which he autographed: I remember saying to him, "Thank you, sir". I was with a group of fellow sixth-formers, who had all sneaked out of school simply to attend that book signing. [Image from here is not available to guests]


When George's closed I discovered that it had been a branch of Blackwell's since 1929 and had not been independent.

I too remember the old shop with its fascinating second hand department.  I still have a number of books I bought there.

Re: Swindon <-> Westbury service updates and amendments, ongoing discussion - 2026
In "TransWilts line" [371601/31359/18]
Posted by Red Squirrel at 16:43, 26th January 2026
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Not 100% a propos, but I was amused last evening when I got on the 18.46 from Temple Meads to Montpelier.

This train - and you will see the tenuous connection to the topic, -  is often cancelled when I try to catch it due to lack of crew. I had come off the Plymouth - Leeds train on Platform 3, so it should have been a simple matter of stay put while the Leeds train shuffles off, and catch the Severn Beach train from the same platform. The minutes ticked by, ramps were obtained, a chap in a wheelchair got off and then the ramp was installed in a door at the other end of the train. Then, suddenly! Nothing happened. People shrugged. Someone cleared his throat. No-one went and no-one came. And then, over the wheezing rattle of the Vogager, the inevitable platform change was announced. So I joined the crowd hotfooting it to Platform 7, and just a few minutes later we were on our way.

The odd bit was the conductor's announcement. He apologised for the confusion. I thought he was going to explain why the Leeds train had delayed us and led to a platform change. What he actually told us was that our train had been cancelled and then uncancelled because he had been reallocated to another train but then another guard had come in on a later, delayed train thus allowing him to work our train. So that puts us in our place then!

The Leeds train, incidentally, left 26 minutes late but surpisingly left New St on time. No idea what held it up for so long at Temple Meads.

Re: Weather updates from across the UK and implications for infrastructure - 2026
In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [371600/31355/51]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 15:35, 26th January 2026
 
Thanks for your post, ChrisB.

The BBC have now improved their graphic in that article:

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Probably best to keep away from the south coast this evening, if you can.  [Image from here is not available to guests]


Re: Splitting the Northern Line into two
In "Transport for London" [371599/31523/46]
Posted by Red Squirrel at 15:17, 26th January 2026
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I quite like the sound of 'City and South London Line' and 'Hampstead Tube'

Re: Stanfords - map shop(s)
In "The West - but NOT trains in the West" [371598/31524/31]
Posted by Red Squirrel at 15:15, 26th January 2026
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In Bristol, we used to have the excellent Georges bookshops, on Park Street - there were three of them, on the left hand side walking up.

One of them was where I met Harold Wilson, who was there to sign copies of his book, 'The Governance of Britain'. I didn't buy one, I just offered him a sheet of paper - which he autographed: I remember saying to him, "Thank you, sir". I was with a group of fellow sixth-formers, who had all sneaked out of school simply to attend that book signing. [Image from here is not available to guests]



George's (note the placement of the apostrophe - we'll come back to that) was just one shop - 89 Park St - when I was a boy. Spent many happy hours there, exploring all four floors and multiple levels, and buying many a book. I think they over-expanded when they moved into 87 and 85, and then sadly rebranded as Blackwell's - the Oxford bookseller who had actually owned the business since the 1920's.

Why was the apostrophe where it was? Because it was William George's Sons Ltd. William, incidentally, started selling books in his uncle's bookshop at 26 Clare Street - more or less opposite Stanford's. He moved the business to Park St in either 1851 or 1871 (depending on who you believe). Perhaps he thought Clare St was a silly place for a bookshop?

Re: Stanfords - map shop(s)
In "The West - but NOT trains in the West" [371597/31524/31]
Posted by Red Squirrel at 14:54, 26th January 2026
 
Sad, but not surprised. I don't remember the Bristol store ever being very busy. It was on Clare Street, surrounded by bars and restaurants. There is a branch of Traifinders nearby, which could have sent some people their way, but overall it always looked a bit out of place.

Re: Swindon <-> Westbury service updates and amendments, ongoing discussion - 2026
In "TransWilts line" [371596/31359/18]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 14:52, 26th January 2026
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Might be very useful to you in terms of charting performance/timings over an extended period?

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Re: Stanfords - map shop(s)
In "The West - but NOT trains in the West" [371595/31524/31]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 14:48, 26th January 2026
 
In Bristol, we used to have the excellent Georges bookshops, on Park Street - there were three of them, on the left hand side walking up.

One of them was where I met Harold Wilson, who was there to sign copies of his book, 'The Governance of Britain'. I didn't buy one, I just offered him a sheet of paper - which he autographed: I remember saying to him, "Thank you, sir". I was with a group of fellow sixth-formers, who had all sneaked out of school simply to attend that book signing. [Image from here is not available to guests]


Re: Delivering South West England’s New Economy - Greengauge21 Report
In "Across the West" [371594/31402/26]
Posted by Red Squirrel at 14:32, 26th January 2026
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I've expressed opinions about the resilience of the route west of Plymouth before, but since September - when my son started at Exeter Uni at Penryn - I have had the opportunity to walk a mile in another man's shoes, as it were.

They're not very comfortable.

It is unusual to be able to make the journey from Montpelier to Penryn without problems. These range from annoying delays to needing to postpone or abandon the entire journey.

Crosscountry services are almost always overcrowded, and the trains are... seedy. They also seem to be very prone to delay and cancellation, and are slow to recover when there is major disruption. This seems to be an inevitable feature of services which run from one end of the island to the other. GWR services tend to be better and more comfortable (if you take a cushion!). But overall, it is a journey to be endured rather than enjoyed.

The railway at Dawlish is a unique point of failure. There is no other place on the network where a breach can isolate an entire county - six branch lines and around 175km of main line - from the rest of the country. Storms are getting bigger and more frequent, and the sea level is rising. Even if the line is able to resist the worst of the weather it will still be necessary to close it more often and for longer periods in the future. This part of the network is just too important to rely on a single coastal route.

Within Cornwall the branch lines seem to be becoming less reliable. The Liskeard Branch has been closed for over a month due to storm damage; the Newquay Branch was closed over the weekend due to flooding.

And yet the trains are busy. Even on a cold Sunday in January, the Falmouth line trains are buzzing.

In Bristol, we are at last beginning to see the effects of decades of underinvestment being reversed. Further west much more is needed. Who's going to pay for it? Like any good investment, it should pay for itself. The economic cost of the eight-week closure in 2014 was in the region of £1bn - over half the slated cost of reinstating the northern route (wasn't it £1.6bn?). The new sea wall has stood up well to the latest storms, but that's only fixed the most exposed area - the Teign and Exe estuaries are likely to become more vulnerable as sea levels rise. I would bet my shirt on another major failure before Bristol gets trams!


Re: Swindon <-> Westbury service updates and amendments, ongoing discussion - 2026
In "TransWilts line" [371593/31359/18]
Posted by IndustryInsider at 14:19, 26th January 2026
 
A year ago, yes, it was 07:34 departure from Chippenham in the public timetable, with the 07:31 departure to Worcester unchanged and I would assume (data no longer easily to hand) that the arrival from Salisbury was at 07:30.  So 4 minutes has indeed become 3.

A realtimetrains+ subscription gives you the option to search back 5 years (or right back to 2012 with the 'Extended History' upgrade).

Might be very useful to you in terms of charting performance/timings over an extended period?

Stanfords - map shop(s)
In "The West - but NOT trains in the West" [371592/31524/31]
Posted by grahame at 14:12, 26th January 2026
 
From https://www.stanfords.co.uk/our-stores - I remember in my youth visiting book shops like Foyles and Stanfords - the latter for maps.  Noting a post that fleetingly passed by told of the closure of Stanford's in Bristol, just a single store remains which is that one near Covent Garden.  I did have a look at their online shop too, which would now seem to be their dominant business.  Memories of other big bookstores too - whatever happened to Borders, or some of those wonderful specialist displays of IT books in places like Waterstones.

Re: Splitting the Northern Line into two
In "Transport for London" [371591/31523/46]
Posted by ChrisB at 13:50, 26th January 2026
 
Kennington in the south (not Oval) is the same

Re: Splitting the Northern Line into two
In "Transport for London" [371590/31523/46]
Posted by Oxonhutch at 13:22, 26th January 2026
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I believe a major constraint on splitting is the passenger interchange capacity of Camden Town. At the moment both northern extensions serve both the city and Charing Cross branches. If the line was split, a large number of commuters would be transferring from one line to the other at Camden Town and its underground layout is not currently designed to cope with that kind of passenger flow.

Splitting the Northern Line into two
In "Transport for London" [371589/31523/46]
Posted by grahame at 13:16, 26th January 2026
 
The "Northern Line" is unique in having two branches running through the heart on London and this has been known to confuse visitors ... join a Northern Line train in either direction at Waterloo with a home of getting off at Moorgate and you'll find you're out of luck

From Timeout

Could the Northern line be split into two separate tube lines? Under proposals from TfL, it just might be. Transport for London has long-term goals to break up the line, saying that the split could increase the line’s capacity by 20,000.

At the moment, the Northern line has two central branches: trains run either via Bank or Charing Cross, before rejoining at Camden Town in the north and Oval in the south.

It has always amused me (is it still the case?) that the most southerly station on the underground is on the Northern Line

Would it be a good idea to split?   What would the two lines be called?  Northern line and Southern line?  Charles and Camilla? Citylink and Westend Link?  Seaden and Denden lines? West End and Bank lines?

Re: Interstation connecting tunnels
In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [371588/31509/51]
Posted by broadgage at 13:04, 26th January 2026
 
A link between Catford and Catford Bridge would certainly be useful, but a tunnel would not be applicable, more of an above ground walkway, preferably with lifts and/or escalators since the difference in elevation is considerable.

Dreaming of place to go on longer trips in more clement weather
In "The Wider Picture Overseas" [371587/31522/52]
Posted by grahame at 12:50, 26th January 2026
 
This week, I was planning to be in the North East - plan aborted due to weather amongst other issues. Instead, I am looking forward to travelling Interrail again - for a change, here are some pictures which do NOT show public transport though all were done by train (with the odd bit of ferry and bus) from Melksham.   Key at end end - not a competitlon

























Austria - Melk - 11
Finland - Kemi - 4
France - St Malo - 12
Germany - Potsdam - 7
Hungary - Budapest - 6
Italy - Taomina - 10
Lithuania - Trakei - 9
Netherlands - Enkhuizen - 2
Norway - Lofoten - 8
Poland - Hel - 5
Scotland - Inverness - 1
Spain - Nuria - 3

Re: Dawlish - permanent resilience work - ongoing discussions
In "London to the West" [371586/22771/12]
Posted by ChrisB at 12:31, 26th January 2026
 
Long planned Engineering work

 
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