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14.4.2025 (Monday) 11:33 - All running AOK
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Re: More than half of train travellers now use the railway for leisure
In "Across the West" [360518/30146/26]
Posted by eightonedee at 10:22, 14th April 2025
 
I don't object to being called a commuter - rather proud of the fact that I used the train as my default means of getting to work for over half my working life.

I agree though that dividing into "business" & "leisure" is wrong. Where does that leave travelling to medical appointments, collecting the car from being serviced, travelling to pick up a new door lock (perhaps shopping generally for those of us for whom it's a necessary chore rather than a pleasure!)? Or does much of my train use now fill the missing one per cent in those figures?

I would suggest that these figures might suggest there's room to increase the business/travel to work volume, with pressure on some to return to the office....

Re: The ladies plus Dave
In "The Lighter Side" [360517/30142/30]
Posted by grahame at 10:12, 14th April 2025
 
Might this have something to connect it with the Midland Blue Pullman I wonder.

Good thought but - sorry - not it

Re: "Long Products"... Steel Rail.
In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [360516/30070/51]
Posted by ChrisB at 09:17, 14th April 2025
 
From The Guardian

Network Rail has stockpiled a year’s worth of rails in case of British Steel disruption

Reserves would give six months to find alternative supply if Scunthorpe blast furnaces are switched off

Network Rail has built up a stockpile of rails to last as long as a year in case of disruption in the supply from British Steel’s Scunthorpe works.

The company, which manages Britain’s railway tracks, has been stockpiling rails over the past 12 months as British Steel started to contemplate the closure of its two blast furnaces. The rails are stored at depots around the country.

British Steel’s Chinese owner, Jingye, last month announced plans to close the blast furnaces, putting 2,700 jobs at risk and threatening the UK supply of long products such as rails and construction beams.

The UK government on Saturday stepped in to take control of the Scunthorpe factory with emergency legislation. It made the move, just short of nationalisation, because it was concerned that the UK would lose the ability to produce steel from iron ore in its last blast furnaces. Jonathan Reynolds, the business secretary, has directed British Steel to buy the raw materials needed to keep running, after Jingye decided to end production.

Many of the products made at Scunthorpe are readily available from other European suppliers. However, more than 80% of Britain’s rails come from the Lincolnshire plant. The stockpile would give Network Rail about six months to seek an alternative seller if the Scunthorpe blast furnaces are switched off, because of lead times in receiving orders from other sources.

Network Rail started considering the stockpile after Jingye announced in late 2023 that it was looking at replacing the blast furnaces with much cleaner electric arc furnaces. British Steel opened a new facility in November in Scunthorpe that will be able to store 25,000 tonnes of rails.

Network Rail already has flexible contracts with Austria’s Voestalpine and Germany’s Saarstahl that could fill the gap in supply if British Steel were to shut its blast furnaces before electric versions are up and running. Installing new electric arc furnaces, which do not rely on polluting coal, could take several years.

British Steel has said electric arc furnaces are suitable to make rails and other long products produced in Scunthorpe, although the conditions in the furnace need to be tightly controlled to avoid impurities. Network Rail has previously tested rails made in an electric arc furnace by Saarstahl.

A Network Rail spokesperson said: “We do not expect the announcement to have any impact on the continued delivery of reliable rail services for passengers and freight users.

“We are continuing to work with government and our suppliers, and we have comprehensive contingency plans in place to ensure the continued supply of rail needed to fulfil our operational needs.”

Re: Single scheme needed? So people know to show xtra consideration
In "Transport for London" [360515/30147/46]
Posted by ChrisB at 09:14, 14th April 2025
 
The seat fabric needs the wheelchair symbol woven into it, along with window/glass separator stickers to make it stupidly obvious that those seats are for those that actually *need* to sit.

Fellow passenger guilt-trips are the way to make these available....

Single scheme needed? So people know to show xtra consideration
In "Transport for London" [360514/30147/46]
Posted by grahame at 09:09, 14th April 2025
 
"Please Offer me a seat"
"Baby on board"
Sunflower
"I need extra help"

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c1menlmx80go

Londoners living with disabilities and chronic health conditions say they have struggled to use a Transport for London (TfL) scheme while travelling, with one even threatened by another passenger.

The "Please Offer Me A Seat" badge and card scheme, which marks its eighth anniversary this month, is designed to help those with disabilities and health conditions by signalling, external to other passengers they should give up their seat if needed.

But Eliza Rain, 28, who has a chronic pain condition, said when using the badge they were often challenged and one passenger "threatened to push me off the train because I'd asked for their seat".

A TfL spokesperson encouraged passengers to give up their seat to someone who asks where possible, even if the person asking isn't wearing a badge.

Oh dear ...

I can't help wondering if a single emblem - such as the sunflower - would help the general public be aware of who needs that little bit extra, and very clearly marked priority seats (if not there already) would make it clear "you may be asked to give up this seat" in a uniform manner.

There IS an issue with hidden disabilities / people who need a little extra in some way, but don't have that externally obvious.  There could also be an issue with asking someone to give up a (priority) seat if the person sitting in it already has a (perhaps hidden) disability.  And there's a need to be aware of those who may have multiple disabilities, including those that reduce their ability to communicate in a way that's the social norm.

Re: The ladies plus Dave
In "The Lighter Side" [360513/30142/30]
Posted by Western Pathfinder at 09:07, 14th April 2025
 
Might this have something to connect it with the Midland Blue Pullman I wonder.

Re: Spreading wings for a few days
In "Introductions and chat" [360512/30134/1]
Posted by ellendune at 08:43, 14th April 2025
 
Swindon, the other week, the guy on the barrier didn't know whether the buses had moved to their new locations. In one way there was no reason he should have known, mind. (The new location being arguably better, but also, arguably less functional as an interchange and also further from the station.)

Its not that far from the station!  And it the present site is not that easy to find without directions.

Re: Spreading wings for a few days
In "Introductions and chat" [360511/30134/1]
Posted by Mark A at 08:29, 14th April 2025
 
To be fair, some transport hubs do provide prominent information to the effect: 'New here? Here's where to find the buses and here's information on the fares system.'

Others, less so.

I'm hoping Wolverhampton (bus station next to the railway station) has changed its ways.

Bath, doesn't do this well but to be honest the bus station itself struggles.

Swindon, the other week, the guy on the barrier didn't know whether the buses had moved to their new locations. In one way there was no reason he should have known, mind. (The new location being arguably better, but also, arguably less functional as an interchange and also further from the station.)

Mark

Re: 2025 - Service update and amendment log, Swindon <-> Westbury
In "TransWilts line" [360510/29726/18]
Posted by grahame at 08:09, 14th April 2025
 
07:45 Westbury to Swindon due 08:34
08:45 Swindon to Westbury due 09:26

08:45 Swindon to Westbury due 09:26 will be cancelled.
This is due to a broken down train.


Re: More than half of train travellers now use the railway for leisure
In "Across the West" [360509/30146/26]
Posted by ChrisB at 08:00, 14th April 2025
 
Worse still - *all* of us being referred to as "commuters", whether business or leisure!

Re: More than half of train travellers now use the railway for leisure
In "Across the West" [360508/30146/26]
Posted by Mark A at 07:57, 14th April 2025
Already liked by eightonedee
 
I will never not find 'Leisure' a particularly irritating word to apply to travel for personal needs - the more so if travel is presented as a simple dichotomy between 'Business' and 'Leisure'. It feels symptomatic of an industry that's being shackled.

Mark

More than half of train travellers now use the railway for leisure
In "Across the West" [360507/30146/26]
Posted by grahame at 07:04, 14th April 2025
 
From the Swindon Advertiser

More than half of train travellers now use the railway for leisure - according to new research.


The research for the Department for Transport found that 54 per cent of respondents travelled for leisure, while 30 per cent commuted for work or education, and 15 per cent travelled for business.

The railway is described as "the backbone of our economy" by rail minister Lord Peter Hendy, who highlighted how the network connects people nationwide.

He said: "This research shows thousands of passengers choose the train for their leisure travel.

I would hope that Peter Hendy already knew hw had a strong leisure customer base ... that the DfT's research told him and them a bit more than that. 

Re: 2025 - Service update and amendment log, Swindon <-> Westbury
In "TransWilts line" [360506/29726/18]
Posted by grahame at 06:17, 14th April 2025
 
20:38 Westbury to Swindon due 21:23
20:38 Westbury to Swindon due 21:23 will be cancelled.

This is due to trespassers on the railway.

21:34 Swindon to Westbury due 22:16
21:34 Swindon to Westbury due 22:16 will be cancelled.

This is due to trespassers on the railway.

I wonder whether they had the crew?  We only ever get one reason and, somewhat uncharitably, I sometimes wonder if we are told the reason for cancellation that brings the least criticism onto the operator.

Re: Spreading wings for a few days
In "Introductions and chat" [360505/30134/1]
Posted by grahame at 06:14, 14th April 2025
Already liked by Mark A
 
God's own City!

Hope you enjoyed Plymouth!

Thank you - yes.  It's a big place with many different factors and areas and I only scraped the surface. I remember going there when I was under 10 for a holiday (I was accompanied at the time) and my parents marvelled at the modern new streets as it was being rebuilt after being flattened during the Second World War. Very interesting to see how that has moved forward and how some of the construction from that time is being replaced or having heavy maintenance. 

Very much "the city of the bus" as far as I was concerned. 

On Saturday, I caught the train in and through from Saltash to Totnes and it was notable how dead the stations we called at - Keyham, Dockyard and Devonport - were.   And changing trains on the way back that evening, at Plymouth (North Road) the sound and atmosphere of diesel trains and the announcement as we arrived that the next connection to Gunnislake was "not until ..."

On Sunday, I breakfasted at Carol's Cafe and didn't bother with timing - even on a Sunday morning I had checked and there was a half hourly regular service into the city, with other service from beyond Saltash combed in to make it turn-uo-and-go, and people were turning up and going.   Come the city centre and there was a bewildering array of onward services.   I will criticise that there was no easy way for me, arriving there, to find my onward service.   Long rows of roadside bus stops all marked "Temporary stop" and with route numbers on them and precious little more (I think many of the stops may have had a fine print timetable ...) so no way onward guidance for the stranger.   I lucked out by asking a driver leaning on the front of a bus as to which the one for Marsh Mills was and "this one" he says.    The route number did correspond with previous research, the destination saying "Derriford" surprised me as that's to the north and I was headed east and without the re-assurance I would have taken it has being a cross-city service with this vehicle going the wrong way.


The importance of reliability
In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [360504/30145/51]
Posted by grahame at 21:12, 13th April 2025
 
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cp34y59ywgxo

A Northern Ireland tourist attraction which has received millions of pounds for repairs and maintenance has been closed nearly as many days as it has open in the past decade.

The Gobbins Cliff Path in Islandmagee, County Antrim reopened to the public in 2015.

Mid and East Antrim Borough Council has spent about £4.3m since 2017 on repairs to the path, which has faced prolonged closures due to rockfalls, storm damage, planned works and inspections.

Buy sadly ...

A Scottish based company that offers tours of Northern Ireland said while they promote the Gobbins on their website, they haven't included it on tours due to its "unreliable" opening.

Heather Rennie-McGill, director of marketing and sales at Rabbie's, said the Gobbins has "real potential" as a "unique attraction".

"If we're selling tours six to 12 months out for customers, and something like this would be a key highlight because the tour lasts two-and-a-half to three hours which is a big chunk of a day, we'd need reliability," she said.

"We can't include things in our itineraries where it would be taken out at the last minute."

and other disappointments are documented too.  I know how Heathers feels ... and have the same concern about marketing certain train services.  Only 4 out of 14 cancelled today, so not as bad as Gobbins.


Re: Great Western Railway: on-board catering, buffets, Travelling Chef, Pullman - ongoing discussion
In "Across the West" [360503/5508/26]
Posted by grahame at 20:55, 13th April 2025
 
Now if you want decent catering...

https://jidelnivozy.cz/menu/index.html

There is a slightly different menu for the conventional loco hauled trains which has an excellent roasted ham with 3 or 4 fried eggs on top and some bread to soak up the yolk with, 119 kč or a tad over £4.

I try not to eat out too often.

Recommended 2 course dinner is the guláš polévka with the veal, gorgeous! To drink there's a craft beer from Chroust brewery, proper Bud or draught Pilsner Urquell. And if in first class, all done from your seat, the first class host regularly walks through the coach.

I am going to be severely tempted over the next 4 months!

Re: Plym Valley Railway - Marsh Mills to Plym Bridge - merged posts
In "Heritage railways, Railtours, buses, canals, steamships and other public transport based attractions" [360502/11624/47]
Posted by grahame at 20:49, 13th April 2025
Already liked by Kempis, Timmer, GBM, Western Pathfinder
 
I visited today ... and it turns out that it was the first run of the class 142 ("skipper" / pacer) since its repaint job.  Plymbridge Platform looks lovely with a pagoda; Marsh Mills gives the feeling of work in progress.

Looking back through this thread, comment is made on how few volunteers there were, how few days it runs, and how short the line is.   The line remains uselessly (as a piece of public transport) short, but it gives staff and the sprinking of passengers (and, remember, it's not yet Easter) a lot of pleasure. A 142, a 143, a 2 car first generation dmu, two HST power cars, two diesel shunters, 2 road/rail vehicles, a couple of steam engines ... seems a bit like overkill - but perhaps it depends what the objectives are?  The ongoing path IS very popular and there's no way I can imagine it extending towards Launceston. At the other end, it's only a matter of a couple of hundred yards from the GWR main line but the obstacles in between would be - err - challenging.














Re: Shortage of train crews on Great Western Railway - ongoing discussion
In "Across the West" [360501/18719/26]
Posted by Timmer at 20:12, 13th April 2025
 
And perhaps as a consequence.....what a pleasant experience this will be......

12:02 London Paddington to Penzance due 17:05
Facilities on the 12:02 London Paddington to Penzance due 17:05.

Service full and standing from London Paddington.
The good news was that the 14.02 was fully reinstated all the way to Penzance which is just as well as the 12.32, 14.32 and 16.32 semi fasts were all canned with the 13.02, 15.02 and 17.02 making additional stops to cover for the cancelled trains.

Re: Spreading wings for a few days
In "Introductions and chat" [360500/30134/1]
Posted by TaplowGreen at 19:46, 13th April 2025
 
God's own City!

Hope you enjoyed Plymouth!

Re: 2025 - Service update and amendment log, Swindon <-> Westbury
In "TransWilts line" [360499/29726/18]
Posted by TaplowGreen at 19:33, 13th April 2025
 
20:38 Westbury to Swindon due 21:23
20:38 Westbury to Swindon due 21:23 will be cancelled.

This is due to trespassers on the railway.

21:34 Swindon to Westbury due 22:16
21:34 Swindon to Westbury due 22:16 will be cancelled.

This is due to trespassers on the railway.

Re: Peter, Lord Hendy of Richmond Hill - merged posts, ongoing discussion
In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [360498/26586/51]
Posted by TaplowGreen at 19:30, 13th April 2025
 
I can - the same reason that you'd expect to retain your job after admitting that law breaking....

We all get to set our own standards.

I guess Starmer may have Oscar Wilde in mind.... to lose one Transport Minister to a criminal conviction may be regarded as a misfortune; to lose two looks like carelessness.

Re: Thames Valley infrastructure problems causing disruption elsewhere - 2025
In "Across the West" [360497/29650/26]
Posted by TaplowGreen at 19:27, 13th April 2025
 
Cancellations to services between Reading and London Paddington

Due to a broken rail between Reading and London Paddington the London Paddington bound high speed line is blocked.

Train services running to and from these stations will be cancelled, delayed or terminated at and started back from Reading. Disruption is expected until the end of the day.

Customer Advice
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We're sorry for the delay to your journey. Due to a broken rail in the Twyford area, the high speed line towards London Paddington is blocked. This means our high speed long distance trains will need to share the line with other operators local stopping trains. This will cause delays due to congestion.
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In order to reduce the delay to your journey, we may need to terminate or start some trains at Reading instead of London Paddington.
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Your tickets will be accepted at no extra cost on Elizabeth Line services between Reading and London Paddington. Please note, Elizabeth Line services are also affected by this issue

Re: Spreading wings for a few days
In "Introductions and chat" [360496/30134/1]
Posted by grahame at 19:26, 13th April 2025
Already liked by PrestburyRoad
 
A plethora of pictures to follow ... today was a day I did not use my FOSW - instead my old fogies bus pass (mostly) and feet. Pictures shared with friends at home -
































Re: "Long Products"... Steel Rail.
In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [360495/30070/51]
Posted by broadgage at 18:34, 13th April 2025
 
Doubts have been raised as to the availability of suitable and sufficient coke to run the blast furnaces.
Whilst HMG have guaranteed payment for the fuel, that does not ensure physical availability.
I doubt that coke already in transit in russian or chinese ships will be available, expect mechanical breakdowns, delays, diversion to other ports or non compliant paperwork.
Air freight might even have to be used.

One delivery had been made to a customs secured site, awaiting payment - which I guess has now been made since legislation has completed

Was not aware of that, thanks for the update.

Re: "Long Products"... Steel Rail.
In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [360494/30070/51]
Posted by ChrisB at 18:13, 13th April 2025
Already liked by broadgage
 
Doubts have been raised as to the availability of suitable and sufficient coke to run the blast furnaces.
Whilst HMG have guaranteed payment for the fuel, that does not ensure physical availability.
I doubt that coke already in transit in russian or chinese ships will be available, expect mechanical breakdowns, delays, diversion to other ports or non compliant paperwork.
Air freight might even have to be used.

One delivery had been made to a customs secured site, awaiting payment - which I guess has now been made since legislation has completed

Re: 2025 - Service update and amendment log, Swindon <-> Westbury
In "TransWilts line" [360493/29726/18]
Posted by grahame at 18:12, 13th April 2025
 
18:11 Castle Cary to Swindon due 19:33

18:11 Castle Cary to Swindon due 19:33 will be cancelled.
This is due to a shortage of train crew.

and now - not surprised ...

19:43 Swindon to Westbury due 20:25

19:43 Swindon to Westbury due 20:25 will be cancelled.
This is due to a shortage of train crew.
Further Information

If you arrive at your destination 15 or more minutes late because your GWR train was delayed or cancelled, you can claim Delay Repay compensation. Please keep your ticket and visit GWR.com/DelayRepay
Last Updated:13/04/2025 17:45

... only surprise is that they cancelled the up service and lunchtime, but left the return service running until 4 hours later

Re: "Long Products"... Steel Rail.
In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [360490/30070/51]
Posted by Mark A at 17:20, 13th April 2025
 
I had to look the date up. The last coke ovens on site closed in 2023. To run a blast furnace without the means on hand to make coke, and any stockpile largely gone, that must be hairy.

Mark

Re: Probably one of the ugliest dolls I have seen around
In "The Lighter Side" [360489/30139/30]
Posted by grahame at 17:12, 13th April 2025
 
That is not grahame: I know, because the front shirt tails are tucked into the waistband.  Graham never does that. 


There were a couple of inaccuracies. I asked Lisa who's behind it to replace one of the train toys with a bus toy ... and she also found  a naturally out shirt, having appreciated the earlier error -https://grahamellis.uk/blog1565.html

 
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