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In "TransWilts line - Swindon, Chippenham, Westbury" [381371/32666/18]
Posted by grahame at 14:00, 27th October 2026
 




"Pulling the plug" - for however long - on the Melksham (and Westbury, and Beanacre bypasses) does not reduce the amount of freight travelling south-north through Wiltshire. 

It helps make the case for transfer to rail - where that's appropriate, and furthermore it's far less intrusive, less locally controversial, far environmentally better, and far cheaper to put in the infrastructure for rail.   If it can be done BEFORE our population explodes as planned, and with a "metro" frequency rail service in place ahead of time, then our economy and good housing stock will grow with people ready, willing AND ABLE to use rail where appropriate - and that in turn lessens the load and congestion on roads in the area from what it would otherwise be.

Re: Historical Record Perception - Correction / Confirmation Required
In "South Western services" [381370/32665/42]
Posted by JohnM at 11:59, 27th October 2026
 
AI can be pretty good at this sort of thing, although it's not easy to tell whether it's correct or not:
Phil's historical recollection contains a mix of accurate details and a few misconceptions regarding the administration and operational changes of the line:

  • The Regional Transfer (Incorrect): Phil suggests that control of the Salisbury to Exeter route was transferred from the Southern Region (BR(S)) to the Western Region (BR(W)) in the early 1960s, and that Western Region management deliberately throttled the Atlantic Coast Express (ACE) because they didn't want a competing fast route into the West Country. In reality, the entire line from Salisbury to Exeter remained under the management and control of British Railways' Southern Region right up until the major singling and rationalisation carried out in 1967 (well after the Beeching Report and after steam had ended on the route). Management control didn't shift to the Western Region until even later (the line was formally transferred to the Western Region in the 1970s, long after the singling cuts took place).
  • The Beeching Cuts & Singling (Partially Correct): The reduction of the Wilton-Pinhoe section to predominantly single track was part of the wider post-Beeching rationalisation implemented in June 1967, rather than an immediate result of Beeching's original 1963 report itself. While local intermediate stations and branches (like Lyme Regis, Sidmouth, and Chard) were indeed closed under the Beeching axe, the decision to single the core line was driven by British Railways' financial and traffic-reduction policies of that era to save on maintenance costs, rather than an inter-regional conspiracy by Western Region management to handicap the ACE.
  • The Atlantic Coast Express (Contextual Accuracy): The ACE was indeed a premier express service, and its timings and fortunes degraded sharply in the final years of steam and early dieselization due to general network economies, falling passenger numbers with the rise of private cars, and eventual rerouting/withdrawal, but this happened under Southern Region stewardship prior to the route's major truncation.

Re: Can we contribute material to the Coffee Shop, please?
In "Introductions and chat" [381369/32664/1]
Posted by Richard Fairhurst at 11:56, 27th October 2026
 
I have a sentence on cycle.travel's "contact us" page saying "we don't accept sponsored posts, link exchanges or guest posts". Doesn't stop them incessantly trying. I just mark as junk and move on.

Re: Historical Record Perception - Correction / Confirmation Required
In "South Western services" [381368/32665/42]
Posted by ChrisB at 11:53, 27th October 2026
Already liked by PhilWakely, johnneyw
 
I have loved alongside the Waterloo to Exeter line in or near Pinhoe for all bar three years of my Seventy years

Love this! too much info maybe?

Re: Historical Record Perception - Correction / Confirmation Required
In "South Western services" [381367/32665/42]
Posted by Richard Fairhurst at 11:53, 27th October 2026
 
I'll try and find my copy later but Gerry Fiennes' "I Tried to Run a Railway" is very good on the decisions behind retention of the line. He was not impressed with the support forthcoming, or not, from local politicians.

Historical Record Perception - Correction / Confirmation Required
In "South Western services" [381366/32665/42]
Posted by PhilWakely at 11:36, 27th October 2026
 
I have lived alongside the Waterloo to Exeter line in or near Pinhoe for all bar three years of my Seventy years and have always been interested in the fortunes of the line. My A-Level Statistics project, which gained an A grade was on the subject of 'Re-doubling the railway between Wilton and Pinhoe'.

However, one significant event in the history of the line puzzles me and I'd like confirmation or correction of my memory please.

Every article I read on the reasons for reducing Wilton South to Pinhoe to mainly single track and thus the route to Secondary status, was down entirely to Dr Beeching. However, my recollection is that was only the beginning - with the closure of several intermediate stations. My recollection is that control of the Salisbury to Exeter route was transferred from BR(S) to BR(W) in the early 60s and that Senior Management of BR(W) did not want two fast routes into the westcountry (the ACE was faster to Exeter than the Cornish Riviera at the time). So, BR(W) throttled the ACE in the timetable and made the decision to reduce the route to Secondary status.

Can somebody confirm / correct my perception please?

*** Correction of unfortunate typo in the first sentence ***

Re: North Cotswold line delays and cancellations - 2026
In "London to the Cotswolds" [381365/31371/14]
Posted by charles_uk at 10:07, 27th October 2026
 
Cancellations to services between Oxford and Worcester Shrub Hill

Due to a tree blocking the railway between Honeybourne and Evesham the line is blocked. Disruption is expected until 10:30 27/10.
Train services between Oxford and Worcester Shrub Hill may be cancelled or delayed.

Customer Advice
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What has happened?
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There is a tree blocking the railway line between Honeybourne and Evesham.
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What are we doing about it?
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Network Rail are sending a specialist team to site to clear the tree.

Re: Oxford Street, London has been pedestrianised
In "Active travel: Cyclists and walkers, including how the railways deal with them" [381364/32663/50]
Posted by GBM at 09:45, 27th October 2026
 
Having walked up Oxford Street myself earlier and spent the day in the area I can confirm it's chaotic.....buses roaring around side streets which were never designed for them, smaller shops which rely on daily deliveries struggling (no problem for the likes of John Lewis with warehouses) and traffic backing up everywhere.

Mayor Lord Sir Khan has excelled himself on this one. Solved one problem by creating a dozen others.

One thing I did find quite amusing walking back to the Tube station tonight, despite pedestrianisation everyone still walking on the pavements!
Roger French also did some walking -
https://busandtrainuser.com/2026/10/27/how-to-ruin-five-more-central-london-bus-routes/
It’s finally happened. After years of controversy with Westminster Council and others objecting, Mayor Kahn’s vision for a traffic free Oxford Street, first launched in his 2016 manifesto, finally got under way yesterday when the 900 yard middle section, between Great Portland Street and Selfridges, of the 1.2 mile long road was pedestrianised with not even cycles allowed to use the road.

I blogged about this proposal two years ago expressing concern at the impact on passengers using the busy bus stops served by the five TfL routes still using the street – routes 7, 94, 98, 139 and 390.

............continues...........

Re: Bus deregulation - on this day 26th October 1986
In "Buses and other ways to travel" [381363/29361/5]
Posted by GBM at 09:41, 27th October 2026
 
Roger French article here -
https://busandtrainuser.com/2026/10/25/marking-40-years-of-deregulated-buses/

Sunday 25th October 2026

To mark tomorrow’s 40th Anniversary of bus deregulation here’s an article I wrote earlier this year for the Omnibus Magazine (the bi-monthly magazine of the Omnibus Society) explaining why deregulation worked so well in Brighton and Hove as well as a number of other British towns and cities. It perhaps also explains why deregulation manifestly didn’t work in other places most of which are now first in the queue for implementing the now available alternative of politically led and publicly controlled ‘franchising’, thanks to previously unheard of generous funding from Government.

.....continues..........

Re: Swindon <-> Westbury service updates and amendments, ongoing discussion - 2026
In "TransWilts line - Swindon, Chippenham, Westbury" [381362/31359/18]
Posted by TaplowGreen at 09:29, 27th October 2026
 
09:45 Westbury to Swindon due 10:28
09:45 Westbury to Swindon due 10:28 will be cancelled.
This is due to train crew being delayed by service disruption.

Re: Bus deregulation - on this day 26th October 1986
In "Buses and other ways to travel" [381361/29361/5]
Posted by grahame at 09:28, 27th October 2026
 
As a dispassionate outsider to Melksham, but temporarily residing here, I have to say that I am becoming a great fan of the Faresaver bus services here.

I have travelled from Melksham Market Place into Bath - service 272 in particular - and to Chippenham - service X34 even goes direct to the railway station there.

I have found those buses to be far more reliable than the sometimes rather flaky train services to and from Melksham.

Chris from (temporarily) Melksham.


"ish" -  a handful of early Monday to Saturday service call at the station in Chippenham having left from Melksham, and a few mid to late afternoon service to Melksham call there.  Otherwise on Monday to Saturday, they don't. All Sunday service to Chippenham will call at the station ON REQUEST, and all outbound services call there.

For Melksham resident "in the know", it works fine as those are the most useful services for rail transfer; what we are short of is evening bus services from (any part) of Chippenham to Melksham.

Re: Swindon <-> Westbury service updates and amendments, ongoing discussion - 2026
In "TransWilts line - Swindon, Chippenham, Westbury" [381360/31359/18]
Posted by grahame at 09:21, 27th October 2026
 
08:44 Swindon to Westbury due 09:26

08:44 Swindon to Westbury due 09:26 has been cancelled.
This is due to the emergency services dealing with an incident.

Re: Can we contribute material to the Coffee Shop, please?
In "Introductions and chat" [381359/32664/1]
Posted by grahame at 09:20, 27th October 2026
 
That's an agency trying to find outlets that they can *sell* to their 'clients'. Not that you'll get any money out opf it, and if its free, neither will they, and you won't get any content being supplied.

Don't waste your timer responding would be my suggestion.

You are almost certainly right. However, having a standard answer to hand and in public I can now just say "see here" to the various requests received, occasional ones of which have resulted in one post wonders.   Answer not just (or even really) for this enquirer, but far more general.  Next time it's quicker, and, further, guests / casual visitors who may have wondered are encouraged to join and post.

Re: Can we contribute material to the Coffee Shop, please?
In "Introductions and chat" [381358/32664/1]
Posted by ChrisB at 08:52, 27th October 2026
Already liked by Richard Fairhurst
 
That's an agency trying to find outlets that they can *sell* to their 'clients'. Not that you'll get any money out opf it, and if its free, neither will they, and you won't get any content being supplied.

Don't waste your timer responding would be my suggestion.

Re: To 'stockpile food' is now our Government's official policy, apparently
In "The West - but NOT trains in the West" [381357/32456/31]
Posted by broadgage at 08:43, 27th October 2026
 
It would seem that a significant number of people ARE stocking up on essentials as suggested by HMG.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c5rmy84np001o

Proper "doomfood" would IMHO be preferable to regular tinned food as it has a warranted 25 year shelf life and should last almost forever.

Needs extra water and means of boiling same though.

Can we contribute material to the Coffee Shop, please?
In "Introductions and chat" [381356/32664/1]
Posted by grahame at 08:03, 27th October 2026
 
The Coffee Shop is happy to carry appropriate on-theme content contibutions irrespective of who contibutes it.  That inlcudes, for example, authors adverising their own books on relevant topics, attractions telling us about their locations and events, and transport operators sharing their history and news.   Audienece-wise, we are quite small because we are a bit niche and obscure, so such posts do not flood us.

In my mailbox this morning - and far from the first time:

Hi,

I hope you are doing well.

I am contacting you to inquire about your current guest posting, sponsored content, and editorial collaboration opportunities.

We are actively managing multiple content marketing campaigns across various industries and are interested in working with high-quality websites that maintain strong editorial standards and an engaged readership.

Could you please share information regarding the following opportunities:

• Guest post placements
• Sponsored or editorial content
• Link insertions within existing articles
• Long-term content partnerships
• Homepage, featured, or premium placements (if available)

Additionally, we would appreciate details regarding your pricing, turnaround time, content guidelines, publishing requirements, and any niche or topic restrictions.

We are happy to follow your editorial policies and are open to establishing long-term collaborations where there is a strong fit between your audience and our content.

If you have a media kit, rate card, or additional information, please feel free to share it.

I look forward to your response.

Best Regards,

I have on occasions in the past answered individually to confirm that anyone can post on the Coffee Shop, without any payment, by signing up as a member.  That requires acceptance of our forum agreement which includes the guidelines, a copy of which may be found at https://www.passenger.chat/r1761.html .  But bearing in mind the repeating nature of this request, it's far better to provide a standard and consistent answer - hence this thread, that I or anyone else can refer enquirers too.

As an aside ... the question may open from approaches like this "should be take branded advertising through the site, giving commercial and other organiations high placement for the payment of a fee which would go towards the running costs and future developents of the Coffee Shop".  That would be something for discussion out of public view, but at the time of writing (and nearly 20 years on from our foundation) I've not seen any great need nor desire to do this.  Times do change and many sites that carry news now also carry adertising and/or make a charge for access to their content - it would be foolish to say "never" but it's not exactly likely to happen any time soon.

If you are a content provider, please feel free to sign up and publish content.  The forum agreement will lay down what is and isn't appropriate content, and our members through there interactions many well help your articles bubble up above other content as they like and comment, and events added to the calendar will receive extra ptomotion as "upcoming" a few weeks before they run.  Very occassionally, our moderator team may even make a topic you have instigated "sticky" making it one of the headline topics even as newer posts would normally push it down the page.

Re: Swindon <-> Westbury service updates and amendments, ongoing discussion - 2026
In "TransWilts line - Swindon, Chippenham, Westbury" [381355/31359/18]
Posted by grahame at 07:58, 27th October 2026
Already liked by GBM
 
07:03 Salisbury to Swindon due 08:34

07:03 Salisbury to Swindon due 08:34 was terminated at Westbury.
It will no longer call at Trowbridge, Melksham, Chippenham and Swindon.
This is due to a tree blocking the railway.

Err ... not sure what train that is?  Could be the train that's normally the 07:45 Westbury to Swindon, extended back to start from Salisbury this week in place of a Salisbury - Bristol working which can't get through because of the engineering between Bath and Bristol.    And I suspect the "tree blocking the railway" is the one on the Golden Valley line not on the TransWilts, but with congestion at Swindon, no room for it there.   

Never mind - there's another trains from Melksham (for example) at 10:02 and I'm sure your employer will be understanding. You could, of course "If you require further information please speak to our staff at the station or on the train, use the Customer Help Point" use the help point.  Not unknown for station maintenance staff to appear at Melksham occasionally, so it's just possible that's relevant advice.  Speaking to staff on the train is kinda impossible if the train has been cancelled and doesn't turn up.

Re: Swindon <-> Westbury service updates and amendments, ongoing discussion - 2026
In "TransWilts line - Swindon, Chippenham, Westbury" [381354/31359/18]
Posted by grahame at 07:49, 27th October 2026
 
06:35 Salisbury to Worcester Shrub Hill due 09:31

06:35 Salisbury to Worcester Shrub Hill due 09:31 will be terminated at Swindon.
It will no longer call at Kemble, Stroud, Stonehouse, Gloucester, Cheltenham Spa, Ashchurch For Tewkesbury and Worcester Shrub Hill.
This is due to a tree blocking the railway.

Re: Thames Valley infrastructure problems causing disruption elsewhere - 2026
In "Across the West" [381353/31163/26]
Posted by TaplowGreen at 07:44, 27th October 2026
 
Alterations to services between Reading and Newbury

Due to a points failure between Reading and Newbury some lines are closed.

Train services running to and from these stations may be delayed or revised. Disruption is expected until 08:15 27/10.

Customer Advice
Owing to a points failure in the Reading West area we are currently unable to operate train services between Reading and Newbury in either direction; other routes are unaffected.

Re: Thames Valley infrastructure problems causing disruption elsewhere - 2026
In "Across the West" [381352/31163/26]
Posted by TaplowGreen at 06:36, 27th October 2026
 
Cancellations to services between London Paddington and Reading

Due to the emergency services dealing with an incident between London Paddington and Reading all lines are blocked.

Train services running to and from these stations will be cancelled. Disruption is expected until 09:00 27/10.
Customer Advice
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What has happened?
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A person has been struck by a train, leading to all lines being blocked. It is necessary to bring all trains in the affected area to an immediate stop.

Re: Storms Austen, Boelo and Chloe: modified rail services and infrastructure issues
In "Across the West" [381351/32650/26]
Posted by 1st fan at 23:24, 26th October 2026
 
All Caledonian sleepers cancelled between Glasgow/Edinburgh and London Euston.

The Highland sleepers will run as far as Glasgow.

Passengers can spend the night in their cabins in either Glasgow or London until the morning and then join a day train (assuming they run). 

All passengers will get a full refund. 
When I was supposed to be on the Night Riviera during a storm that sleeping onboard didn’t happen. On the trip down to Cornwall we had taken the South West Trains route via Yeovil which was the only line still open to the South West On the Sunday night before the way back we were told that and the line between Exeter and Yeovil had become impassible, but I cannot remember why. FGW had laid on an HST to get us to Plymouth where we would have hotel rooms.

When I asked why we couldn’t have just have boarded the sleeper at Penzance which could have made it as far as Exeter. Then continued sleeping on-board the train parked up in a platform at St Davids before getting a Replacement Bus to Tiverton Parkway the next morning. The explanation was that the driver had to remain on the train in the cab if we were onboard. We did all get a full refund.

Re: Burst water main shuts Rye House railway station for two days - Dec 2025
In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [381350/31283/51]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 21:57, 26th October 2026
 
An update, from the BBC:

Line reopens after work to replace flooded tracks


Work to replace the tracks at Rye House station was carried out over nine days - Image © Network Rail

A busy railway branch line has reopened following work to replace about half a mile of tracks.

A burst Thames Water sewer pipe flooded the lines at Rye House station, Hertfordshire, in December.

The track was replaced over nine days, with the work completed on Sunday.  While the work was being done, there were no trains serving Hertford East, Ware, St Margarets or Rye House.

Martin Beable, of Great British Railways – Anglia, had previously apologised for the disruption and said that there was "never a good time to close the railway, especially for an extended period".

(BBC article continues)


Re: Storms Austen, Boelo and Chloe: modified rail services and infrastructure issues
In "Across the West" [381349/32650/26]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 21:34, 26th October 2026
 
I do note your point, ChrisB, but most of the Scottish press, in particular, have already chosen to name it Chloe.

See the Scottish Daily Express, STV News, Edinburgh News, Yahoo News UK, The National Scot and The Herald Scotland - just for example.

I only quote here what is reported by them: I don't decide whether the content of their news item is accurate - or otherwise.

CfN.

Re: Cross Country say that they will seriously consider stopping at Bridgwater
In "Cross Country services" [381348/32647/43]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 21:13, 26th October 2026
 
... all of which are probably the reasons Shiona Rolfe, Managing Director of Cross Country Trains, was rather 'hedging her bets' on the possibility of Cross Country trains stopping at Bridgwater.

I was unfortunately not able to attend the TravelWatch SouthWest meeting in Taunton on Friday 9 October 2026, but I understand that is where the discussion originated.

CfN.

Re: Storms Austen, Boelo and Chloe: modified rail services and infrastructure issues
In "Across the West" [381347/32650/26]
Posted by ChrisB at 20:17, 26th October 2026
 
Errrr.....it hasn't (yet) been named - and the Met Office indicated thais morning that they won't unless it gets a lot worse....

Re: Bristol Temple Meads - station, facilities, incidents and events (merged posts)
In "Bristol and Bath (WECA, now WEMCA)" [381346/10737/21]
Posted by Mark A at 20:10, 26th October 2026
 
I'm trying to picture the route into the Friary for rail replacement buses heading north past Temple Meads and not doing very well, and then also thinking that if passengers are being set down before the roundabout there, that *is* a hike.

Re: Bristol Temple Meads - station, facilities, incidents and events (merged posts)
In "Bristol and Bath (WECA, now WEMCA)" [381345/10737/21]
Posted by LiskeardRich at 19:54, 26th October 2026
 
Buses are all fully compliant for accessibility, with audio and visual next stop info, there is a distinct lack of GWR staff present at the rail replacement buses to provide info and passenger assistance. There’s 2 coordinators from Transport Solutions. It’s quite a walk from where they are dropping passengers at temple meads at The Friary. GWR have told First transport solutions they’ve got extra staff on to assist but none have actually came out to the buses. Elderly and disabled are having to struggle in with their suitcases due to lack of passenger assistance despite it being requested when the buses are departing Bath, so giving 35-40 mins for them to walk out to meet the bus.

Re: Cross Country say that they will seriously consider stopping at Bridgwater
In "Cross Country services" [381344/32647/43]
Posted by plymothian at 19:29, 26th October 2026
Already liked by trainbuff, GBM
 
The up platform is 153m and the down 198m long.
You are limiting train length for multiple formations between Taunton and Bristol by stopping at Bridgwater with carriages being locked out of use after Bristol and from Plymouth.

4 car Class 221 = 95.04m
4 car Class 220 = 93.34m

And XC are severely overcrowded as it is without adding more potential traffic.


Re: Bus deregulation - on this day 26th October 1986
In "Buses and other ways to travel" [381343/29361/5]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 18:23, 26th October 2026
Already liked by JohnM, GBM
 
As a dispassionate outsider to Melksham, but temporarily residing here, I have to say that I am becoming a great fan of the Faresaver bus services here.

I have travelled from Melksham Market Place into Bath - service 272 in particular - and to Chippenham - service X34 even goes direct to the railway station there.

I have found those buses to be far more reliable than the sometimes rather flaky train services to and from Melksham.

Chris from (temporarily) Melksham.

Re: Storms Austen, Boelo and Chloe: modified rail services and infrastructure issues
In "Across the West" [381342/32650/26]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 17:54, 26th October 2026
 
Meanwhile - from the BBC:

Storm Boelo leaves 22,000 without power as Met Office issues new wind warning

A clean-up operation is under way in parts of the UK after Storm Boelo caused flooding and property damage, leaving thousands without power.

The Energy Networks Association (ENA) said around 22,600 properties are still without power as of Monday afternoon.

Two men were killed by falling trees during the storm on Sunday - a man in his 20s whose car was hit in north London and a 60-year-old man in Dumfries and Galloway identified as Richard Baines, the long-serving curator of Logan Botanic Garden.

The Met Office has issued a yellow warning for strong winds from 18:00 on Monday to 03:00 on Tuesday across the west coast of England, Wales and Scotland and eastern parts of Northern Ireland.

The Met Office has warned that further power cuts in areas covered by the warning are likely and people should make sure they have essentials prepared, including torches and batteries.

Coastal communities could also be affected by spray or large waves, while travel delays are expected.

Boelo is the second storm to have hit parts of the UK in recent days, following Storm Austen.

Leo Slade, CEO of the ENA said it had been "a tough weekend" and that efforts to reconnect some properties were being hampered by the weather, with sustained winds of 50-85mph across parts of Scotland and northern England.

"Until that weather system passes, we can't safely get engineers out to replace poles, to get wires back up, so today is going to be a hive of activity in getting engineers out into the field," Slade told BBC Radio 4's Today programme.

He stressed that the UK's power network was very resilient and money was spent to prepare for these sorts of scenarios, but said a debate was needed over how much more investment was required to mitigate for further storms brought by climate change.

(BBC article continues)


 
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