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Re: Swindon <-> Westbury service updates and amendments, ongoing discussion - 2026
In "TransWilts line - Swindon, Chippenham, Melksham, Trowbridge, Westbury, Salisbury" [379305/31359/18]
Posted by grahame at 15:02, 8th September 2026
 
Additional Information

Due to the cancellation of the 18:37 Westbury to Swindon service, you are advised of the following road transport running in replacement of this service. You may use the following road transport using your original ticket; at no additional cost.

A minibus will depart Westbury at 18:37, calling all stations to Chippenham where you may use alternative services towards Swindon.
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Due to the cancellation of the 20:12 Swindon to Westbury service, you are advised of the following road transport running in replacement of this service. You may use the following road transport using your original ticket; at no additional cost.

Please board the 20:26 GWR service from Swindon towards Weston-super-Mare and alight at Chippenham where a minibus will depart at 20:41 calling all stations towards Westbury.
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Due to the cancellation of the 21:16 Westbury to Swindon service, you are advised of the following road transport running in replacement of this service. You may use the following road transport using your original ticket; at no additional cost.

A minibus will depart Westbury at 21:16, calling all stations to Chippenham where you may use alternative services towards Swindon.
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Due to the cancellation of the 22:31 Swindon to Westbury service, you are advised of the following road transport running in replacement of this service. You may use the following road transport using your original ticket; at no additional cost.

Please board the 22:58 GWR service from Swindon towards Bristol Temple Meads and alight at Chippenham where a minibus will depart at 23:15 calling all stations towards Westbury.

Last Updated:08/09/2026 14:53

Re: Bristol Temple Meads - station, facilities, incidents and events (merged posts)
In "Bristol and Bath (WECA, now WEMCA)" [379304/10737/21]
Posted by TaplowGreen at 14:41, 8th September 2026
 
I hear the new entrance etc cost £23 million,  surely that can't be true? Does anyone know the actual figure?

From a friend who supervised the work on the new entrance...

I worked on that job in summer 2024. Absolute clusterf**k.
Roof Steels all need redrilling as they sagged under their own weight, requiring a crane and us using handheld drills instead of magdrills…
Bomb proof glass all round except the cladding that hod 3mm galvanised steel sheets behind, nothing was coming out the factory correct and the building leaked like a sieve until recently.
Main company went bust after the job.
No wonder it ended up costing so much!!

Everything else is caked in bird poo


...........somehow I doubt that made the Press release - but always good to have the view from those on the ground rather than the Marketing Department!!! 

Re: Bristol Temple Meads - station, facilities, incidents and events (merged posts)
In "Bristol and Bath (WECA, now WEMCA)" [379303/10737/21]
Posted by Phantom at 12:18, 8th September 2026
 
Incidentally, the floating footpath to Temple Quay apparently cost £10m. I believe that was paid for by the University as a planning condition.   

Is this lit at night? Any separators between pedestrians & pushbikes - in either direction?

Not very safe then? Would you use it after supper?


Yes, there is lighting built into the sides of the walkway, it is very well lit

There is a blue line down the middle of the pathway indicating the cyclepath / walkway, though not all signage has been painted onto the walkway yet

Re: Bristol Temple Meads - station, facilities, incidents and events (merged posts)
In "Bristol and Bath (WECA, now WEMCA)" [379302/10737/21]
Posted by Phantom at 12:16, 8th September 2026
 
I hear the new entrance etc cost £23 million,  surely that can't be true? Does anyone know the actual figure?

From a friend who supervised the work on the new entrance...

I worked on that job in summer 2024. Absolute clusterf**k.
Roof Steels all need redrilling as they sagged under their own weight, requiring a crane and us using handheld drills instead of magdrills…
Bomb proof glass all round except the cladding that hod 3mm galvanised steel sheets behind, nothing was coming out the factory correct and the building leaked like a sieve until recently.
Main company went bust after the job.
No wonder it ended up costing so much!!

Everything else is caked in bird poo

Re: Request stops becoming compulsory ones with added stop-order calls
In "Shorter journeys in Plymouth and Cornwall" [379301/32471/25]
Posted by Hafren at 12:12, 8th September 2026
 
This is one of those areas where a bit of care in the wording would help to reassure passengers when an issue has already arisen! Understand that passengers won't know the exact arrival time, might be worried about this, and might not even realise the stop order is there and be waiting around for a later trian, and reassure that it will be a mandatory stop.

"This is due to the train making extra stops"... more to the point, it is the making of extra stops! I sort of accept that template wording won't always be great but still reads strangely!

Re: Request stops becoming compulsory ones with added stop-order calls
In "Shorter journeys in Plymouth and Cornwall" [379300/32471/25]
Posted by ChrisB at 11:05, 8th September 2026
 
There needs to be a 'thumbs up' icon/smiley.....yes.

Request stops becoming compulsory ones with added stop-order calls
In "Shorter journeys in Plymouth and Cornwall" [379299/32471/25]
Posted by grahame at 11:02, 8th September 2026
 
Where a train is cancelled, it makes sense to put in a "stop order" on a subsequent train to provide an alternative service

I'm noticing that where a train that calls only on request is cancelled, the stop orders seem to turn it into a mandated, compulsory stop on the following train?  Use of the word "will" rather than "may".  Is that to re-assure waiting passengers who may no longer have a timetable reference for the train coming and may not notice it in time to signal to the driver?

10:48 Liskeard to Looe due 11:16 will call additionally at St Keyne Wishing Well Halt, Causeland and Sandplace.
This is due to the train making extra stops because a train was cancelled.

Re: Cornish mainline and branch line delays - ongoing discussion
In "Shorter journeys in Plymouth and Cornwall" [379298/28556/25]
Posted by grahame at 10:48, 8th September 2026
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...................and of course by 11 December it will no longer be GWR's problem, as they will no longer exist.

Well, it’ll no longer be First Group’s problem (from 13th December) - the GWR brand will carry on for a little while at least, and it’ll be the pretty much the same group of people trying to address the problem.

Most importantly, the average passenger won’t know/care about the changes in December anyway.

I have (already) quite a number of LinkedId contacts ... and sometimes it suggests new ones to me.  From just now, here are the roles of people suggested to me, mostly at "GWR" - in addition to the three pages of "currently at GWR" contacts I have.

Business Development Portfolio Director
Strategy Director
Head of Business Planning
Regional Developemnt Manager
Deputy Head of Public Affairs
Regional Growth Manager
Customer Planning and Interface Manager
Head of Business Transformation
Deputy Head of External Communications
Head of Learning and Development

It strikes me that many of these roles will change out of recognition - or out of existence - over the next six months. Those in roles which involve planning, development, growth, strategy, transformation, etc, will potentially be looking at very different scenarios if they look at the next 3 months or the next three years, and may feel themselves in limbo at the moment.

Re: Swindon and Cricklade Railway
In "Heritage railways, Railtours, buses, canals, steamships and other public transport based attractions" [379297/7862/47]
Posted by Ralph Ayres at 10:35, 8th September 2026
 
Good to see something a bit more unusual than the ex-industrial saddle tank that heritage lines of this size typically use. Must pay a visit once it's up and running.

Re: Cornish mainline and branch line delays - ongoing discussion
In "Shorter journeys in Plymouth and Cornwall" [379296/28556/25]
Posted by IndustryInsider at 10:16, 8th September 2026
Already liked by GBM
 
...................and of course by 11 December it will no longer be GWR's problem, as they will no longer exist.

Well, it’ll no longer be First Group’s problem (from 13th December) - the GWR brand will carry on for a little while at least, and it’ll be the pretty much the same group of people trying to address the problem.

Most importantly, the average passenger won’t know/care about the changes in December anyway.

Re: Cornish mainline and branch line delays - ongoing discussion
In "Shorter journeys in Plymouth and Cornwall" [379295/28556/25]
Posted by grahame at 09:44, 8th September 2026
 
The subject line is "delays" but this is more fully fledged cancellations ... not enough working trains ... samples which indicate at least 4 trains short.

09:01 Severn Beach to Bristol Temple Meads due 09:45
09:01 Severn Beach to Bristol Temple Meads due 09:45 will be cancelled.
This is due to a fault on this train.

10:14 Plymouth to Penzance due 12:12
10:14 Plymouth to Penzance due 12:12 will be cancelled.
This is due to more trains than usual needing repairs at the same time.

10:45 Truro to Falmouth Docks due 11:09
10:45 Truro to Falmouth Docks due 11:09 will be cancelled.
This is due to more trains than usual needing repairs at the same time.

10:24 Okehampton to Exeter Central due 11:08
10:24 Okehampton to Exeter Central due 11:08 will be cancelled.
This is due to more trains than usual needing repairs at the same time.

Re: Swindon and Cricklade Railway
In "Heritage railways, Railtours, buses, canals, steamships and other public transport based attractions" [379294/7862/47]
Posted by bobm at 09:40, 8th September 2026
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From an email to members

The Swindon and Cricklade Railway Trustees are thrilled to announce Steam is returning to the Railway in October.

The Railway will soon be welcoming the arrival of the ‘Lady Lisa’.  Lady Lisa is a rare vertical-boiler “coffee pot” steam locomotive that has been operating on the Lavender Line in East Sussex.  Built and manufactured in 1920 by Cockerill in Seraing, Belgium, as a shunting engine with a wheel arrangement of 0-4-0 VBT (Works No 2950).     
                                                               
Originally named Yvonne before being renamed Lady Lisa, the locomotive was withdrawn from service at Brussels Gas Works in 1967 and was stored until 1987.  She moved to the Lavender Line in 2013 and returned to steam following extensive restoration.

With the arrival of Lady Lisa the railway is looking for any members who wish to be re-certified as steam crew and be rostered to operate her.  Training for those who wish to be involved with the Loco can also be arranged.  We will be offering Driver Experiences and Footplate Experiences to our customers.

Dates when the loco will be in action will be published on our website soon. 


Pick of the month - meetings for autumn 2026
In "Diary - what's happening when?" [379293/32470/34]
Posted by grahame at 09:30, 8th September 2026
 
For readers who are time (or interest) limited, I have posted the following in West Wiltshire / Melksham groups.  Personally I'll 2 or 3 (or a dozen) more things to do before Christmas.   These events are in the Coffee Shop diary individually too - see https://www.firstgreatwestern.info/diary.html

September 2026
16th - West Wiltshire Rail User Group - guest speaker Peter West, Trowbridge
Peter was Senior Commercial Manager responsible for negotiating the GWR rail franchise. This places him well to five us an insight into the relationship between the Department for Transport and a commercial operator, and what we may expect when the rail companies are absorbed into Great British Railways
See https://www.wwrug.org.uk/flyer.html

October 2026
9th - TravelWatch SouthWest general meeting, Taunton
Are we set up to cover the journeys we need?  How can rail, bus, and infrastructure in the South West better serve aging populations, rural communities, and accessibility needs? We’ll explore how socially necessary services are delivered and how grassroots voices can shape them.  How can the Department for Transport and transport operators better listen to - and act on - community feedback?
See https://www.eventbrite.com/e/travelwatch-southwest-autumn-general-meeting-2026-tickets-1999846046359

November 2026
25th - West Wiltshire Rail User Group - guest speaker Nathan Sealey, Trowbridge
The Bath and Wiltshire Metro - what, why, where, when.  Who? - Nathan is one of the key team who's been heaily involved in the South Wales Metro at a senior level.  I would like to tell you he's coming from afar, but actually he lived in the West Wiltshire area and so knows it well.

December 2026
5th - Melksham Transport User Group - Christmas Lights / Melksham
We'll be distributing new timetables for all public transport providers who serve the town at this event.  For those of you who live in Melksham, keep your eyes peeled for earlier events too!

Re: Bristol Temple Meads - station, facilities, incidents and events (merged posts)
In "Bristol and Bath (WECA, now WEMCA)" [379292/10737/21]
Posted by ChrisB at 09:25, 8th September 2026
Already liked by GBM
 
Incidentally, the floating footpath to Temple Quay apparently cost £10m. I believe that was paid for by the University as a planning condition.   

Is this lit at night? Any separators between pedestrians & pushbikes - in either direction?

Not very safe then? Would you use it after supper?

Re: Bristol Temple Meads - station, facilities, incidents and events (merged posts)
In "Bristol and Bath (WECA, now WEMCA)" [379291/10737/21]
Posted by TaplowGreen at 08:41, 8th September 2026
 
I hear the new entrance etc cost £23 million,  surely that can't be true? Does anyone know the actual figure?

Apparently so, and I believe part of £94m allocated for the three new entrances (South, East and I presume the renovations and public realm around the Midland Shed on the north side).

Yes, it's a bonkers amount of money but take a look at the photo at https://www.bristoltemplequarter.com/news/eastern-entrance-reaches-construction-milestone-with-building-shell-complete/ - there's more to it than you think, don't forget that it all had to be done around a live railway just metres away from passengers and the underpass.

Incidentally, the floating footpath to Temple Quay apparently cost £10m. I believe that was paid for by the University as a planning condition.   



"Bonkers" sums it up quite well.

Re: Swindon <-> Westbury service updates and amendments, ongoing discussion - 2026
In "TransWilts line - Swindon, Chippenham, Melksham, Trowbridge, Westbury, Salisbury" [379290/31359/18]
Posted by grahame at 07:42, 8th September 2026
 
18:37 Westbury to Swindon due 19:21
20:12 Swindon to Westbury due 20:56
21:16 Westbury to Swindon due 21:58
22:31 Swindon to Westbury due 23:12

22:31 Swindon to Westbury due 23:12 will be cancelled.
This is due to a shortage of train crew.

10:14 Plymouth to Penzance due 12:12
13:14 Penzance to Plymouth due 15:10

08/09/26 13:14 Penzance to Plymouth due 15:10 will be cancelled.
This is due to more trains than usual needing repairs at the same time.

With a pattern in cancellations (and posting elsewhere that the Cornish service reductions will last for months), are there spare crews around who might be able to learn a route in Wiltshire and help out here? 

Re: Cornish mainline and branch line delays - ongoing discussion
In "Shorter journeys in Plymouth and Cornwall" [379289/28556/25]
Posted by TaplowGreen at 07:17, 8th September 2026
 
From the BBC

Campaigners say the cancellation of five weekday services between Penzance in Cornwall and Plymouth or Exeter in Devon has been "the least bad choice" for operator GWR to get on top of reliability problems with its newer Class 175 fleet locally.

Roger Blake, national director at campaigning group Railfuture, said temporary cancellations from Monday were "an unfortunate step back in order to then, we hope, take a couple of steps forward".

The trains, previously been used by Transport for Wales, were in storage for two years before GWR started using them in May.

Timetable changes were scheduled to run until 11 December, but GWR said it hoped to bring the trains back before that if possible.

Agreed that it's probably the least bad choice in the short term.   But it feel like (another?) case of over-optimism that has gone wrong, with the old trains withdrawn before the "new" ones are working properly.  And/or a case of taking on an increased service before properly prepared for it - it wasn't so many years ago that the Cornish Main Line had hour gaps anyway.

The word "hope" is used twice.   Nice stuff is hope.  I hope it happens 




...................and of course by 11 December it will no longer be GWR's problem, as they will no longer exist.


Re: Cornish mainline and branch line delays - ongoing discussion
In "Shorter journeys in Plymouth and Cornwall" [379288/28556/25]
Posted by grahame at 07:11, 8th September 2026
Already liked by GBM
 
From the BBC

Campaigners say the cancellation of five weekday services between Penzance in Cornwall and Plymouth or Exeter in Devon has been "the least bad choice" for operator GWR to get on top of reliability problems with its newer Class 175 fleet locally.

Roger Blake, national director at campaigning group Railfuture, said temporary cancellations from Monday were "an unfortunate step back in order to then, we hope, take a couple of steps forward".

The trains, previously been used by Transport for Wales, were in storage for two years before GWR started using them in May.

Timetable changes were scheduled to run until 11 December, but GWR said it hoped to bring the trains back before that if possible.

Agreed that it's probably the least bad choice in the short term.   But it feel like (another?) case of over-optimism that has gone wrong, with the old trains withdrawn before the "new" ones are working properly.  And/or a case of taking on an increased service before properly prepared for it - it wasn't so many years ago that the Cornish Main Line had hour gaps anyway.

The word "hope" is used twice.   Nice stuff is hope.  I hope it happens 


Re: Bristol Temple Meads - station, facilities, incidents and events (merged posts)
In "Bristol and Bath (WECA, now WEMCA)" [379287/10737/21]
Posted by grahame at 06:59, 8th September 2026
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Passed through their yesterday
I am intrigued how much use it will get and how much increased footfall there will be going the opposite way to normal at the station

The estimate was 2m people p/a - so 20% of station users-ish

Now - is that 2 million abstracted from the main entrance, or two million new customers?    And if the latter, where are the extra carriages on trains like the Cross Country ones, and the services to Cardiff and via Bradford-on-Avon to cope?

Re: Cornish mainline and branch line delays - ongoing discussion
In "Shorter journeys in Plymouth and Cornwall" [379286/28556/25]
Posted by TaplowGreen at 06:45, 8th September 2026
 
Cancellations to services between Truro and Falmouth Docks

Due to more trains than usual needing repairs at the same time between Truro and Falmouth Docks fewer trains are able to run on the line.

Train services running to and from these stations may be cancelled. Disruption is expected until 17:00 08/09.
Customer Advice
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What has happened?
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One of the train that runs between Truro and Falmouth has developed a fault. The service between Truro and Falmouth has been reduced to an hourly service.

Re: East Lancashire Railway - Heywood to Rawtenstall, 12 mile heritage line
In "Heritage railways, Railtours, buses, canals, steamships and other public transport based attractions" [379285/18694/47]
Posted by grahame at 06:15, 8th September 2026
 
From Rail Advent

MP releases update on Rawtenstall – Manchester commuter rail link

Andy MacNae MP has released an update on his campaign to provide a commuter rail link from Rawtenstall to Manchester.

His vision would see commuter trains utilise the East Lancashire Railway, which runs heritage trains between Rawtenstall and Heywood via Ramsbottom and Bury Bolton Street.

The MP says that whilst the scheme was left out of the Transport Implementation Plan, he has been assured that this rail link will be in the final version of the plan.

This opens the way to develop a proper feasibility case for the line, and means that he can begin having meetings about the line and the case.

It feels so obtuse these days.  It has been talked into the plan so they can start having meetings about the feasibly case.  Where is JFDI?

Having said which, public sentiment (or, rather, vocal sentiment) seems far from unanimous

We don’t want this connection, it will get in the way of other events and disrupt the place,, anyway B.R deemed it redundant so it’s their loss,,, hands off….

Similarly to what others have said, Severn Valley Railway have launched a service from Bewdley to Kidderminster, where passengers switch from SVR to WMR main station. East Lancs could do same, leave the heritage railway as it is and utilise their rolling stock

There are enough other preserved lines in the North West, the conversion of the ELR to a proper commuter line wouldn’t be a great loss, and the benefits for the local communities along the line would be worthwhile. The current bus routes are tediously slow, especially the X41 bus

A solution will have to be found that the ELR Heritage Line and a Commuter Line complement each other and the ELR does not lose out. New houses are being built all the time in Rawtenstall and Bacup. If this will reduce traffic on the roads towards Manchester surely it must be a good thing.

This surely cannot happen. How many commuters would travel? Perhaps if someone underwrote the costs a peak time diesel service could be tried by ELR , this would prove if there is the need without the cost of implementing full time services. I think the bigger issue here is that the Lancashire sections have not benefited like towns like Bury and Ramsbottom. Friends who live in area told me Ramsbottom for example was dead until the ELR arrived, now there and Bury are easily the best tow towns within Manchester.

Re: Bristol Temple Meads - station, facilities, incidents and events (merged posts)
In "Bristol and Bath (WECA, now WEMCA)" [379284/10737/21]
Posted by Noggin at 22:37, 7th September 2026
Already liked by Western Pathfinder
 
I hear the new entrance etc cost £23 million,  surely that can't be true? Does anyone know the actual figure?

Apparently so, and I believe part of £94m allocated for the three new entrances (South, East and I presume the renovations and public realm around the Midland Shed on the north side).

Yes, it's a bonkers amount of money but take a look at the photo at https://www.bristoltemplequarter.com/news/eastern-entrance-reaches-construction-milestone-with-building-shell-complete/ - there's more to it than you think, don't forget that it all had to be done around a live railway just metres away from passengers and the underpass.

Incidentally, the floating footpath to Temple Quay apparently cost £10m. I believe that was paid for by the University as a planning condition.   


Re: Bristol Temple Meads - station, facilities, incidents and events (merged posts)
In "Bristol and Bath (WECA, now WEMCA)" [379283/10737/21]
Posted by Western Pathfinder at 22:31, 7th September 2026
 
As far as I’ve been lead to believe the lion’s share of the entrance work and area outside was funded by the university and development authority?..

Re: Bristol Temple Meads - station, facilities, incidents and events (merged posts)
In "Bristol and Bath (WECA, now WEMCA)" [379282/10737/21]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 22:26, 7th September 2026
 
Andy Burnham?  That would be a good one to ask him at his next PMQ time, bearing in mind his apparent interest in the Portishead Line.

CfN. 

Re: Bristol Temple Meads - station, facilities, incidents and events (merged posts)
In "Bristol and Bath (WECA, now WEMCA)" [379281/10737/21]
Posted by TaplowGreen at 22:15, 7th September 2026
 
I hear the new entrance etc cost £23 million,  surely that can't be true? Does anyone know the actual figure?

Re: Thames Valley infrastructure problems causing disruption elsewhere - 2026
In "Across the West" [379280/31163/26]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 22:14, 7th September 2026
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Yet another Yellow Card to TaplowGreen, for mentioning 'barbeques' anywhere other than on 'the lighter side'

 

Re: Thames Valley infrastructure problems causing disruption elsewhere - 2026
In "Across the West" [379279/31163/26]
Posted by TaplowGreen at 21:38, 7th September 2026
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Railforums reporting that someone threw a disposable BBQ into the Kensal Green Feeder Station from the Grand Union canal towpath.

What is it with GWR and BBQs?

Re: Specialist shops - maps, books, models & stationery - ongoing discussion
In "Introductions and chat" [379278/27406/1]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 21:17, 7th September 2026
 
Neil,

If it's not too much trouble, could you please send me a pm with details of which particular maps they are?  I could chuck some money your way, to cover the postage.

I already have some 40 Landranger and 8 Explorer Ordnance Survey maps, but there are still some gaps on my shelf.

CfN. 

Re: Bristol Temple Meads - station, facilities, incidents and events (merged posts)
In "Bristol and Bath (WECA, now WEMCA)" [379277/10737/21]
Posted by johnneyw at 20:44, 7th September 2026
 

I too saw the untouched fizz but got a snazzy bag for my trouble!


Ah yes, I was handed one of those TM Eastern Entrance bags on my way in to catch the train back to Redland.  I seem to have acquired a bit of a collection of these commemorative railway bags over the years.

Re: Specialist shops - maps, books, models & stationery - ongoing discussion
In "Introductions and chat" [379276/27406/1]
Posted by MVR S&T at 20:38, 7th September 2026
 
I have about 30 OS Landranger maps, a few random other Explorer maps from the mid 2000s. I could post them?
Or are they so common, the recycle bin awates...

Neil, East Dorset.

 
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