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Re: Swindon <-> Westbury service updates and amendments, ongoing discussion - 2026
In "TransWilts line" [375364/31359/18]
Posted by Mark A at 20:42, 22nd May 2026
 
GWR account on Bluesky.

"Due to a broken down train at Melksham"

Mark

https://bsky.app/profile/gwr.com/post/3mmhmoduamo2a

Re: Swindon <-> Westbury service updates and amendments, ongoing discussion - 2026
In "TransWilts line" [375363/31359/18]
Posted by grahame at 18:53, 22nd May 2026
 
18:37 Westbury to Swindon due 19:21
20:12 Swindon to Westbury due 20:56
21:16 Westbury to Swindon due 21:58
22:31 Swindon to Westbury due 23:12

22:31 Swindon to Westbury due 23:12 will be cancelled.
This is due to a fault on this train.

Re: West Wiltshire Rail User Group meeting, Trowbridge, 20 May 2026
In "TransWilts line" [375362/32018/18]
Posted by John D at 18:37, 22nd May 2026
 
Excellent evening with update from Andrew A.

For member - slide set here
The mention of GWR/Chiltern - might this be the battery train?

It might be a multi-mode train

GWR could just about get away with battery EMU▸ , but realistically anything over about 60 miles (or 30miles out and 30 back) off an electrified line, especially in cold winter or very hot summer day is pushing it.   Battery technology is improving so maybe this will go up a bit to nearer 80 miles.

If looking at regional train (say 5-6 cars, capable of 100-110mph on electric, maybe 90-100mph on diesel or battery, with seats and comfort suitable for 3+ hour journeys) then as GWR operate to Portsmouth, Weymouth, Gatwick really needs to be dual voltage.

But a quick look at a map, will show that routes like Cardiff-Exeter, Exeter-Basingstoke, Bristol-Great Malvern/Worcester etc are too far for the battery.  So either got to add few miles of electrification where charging can happen, or fit train with diesel generator set too.

Chiltern probably need ability to work off Metropolitan line 4th rail.  I think this is now 500v outer rail, -250v centre rail, but at least it is effectively 750v not the old 600v (400 and -200)

To be honest, if GBR▸ (or its shadow version) had ordered 70-100 of these, a cascade would probably solve 90% of train shortages or types coming up for renewal.

So yes, SWR» doesn't really need anything different to GWR regional fleet, or even others like Cross Country Cardiff-Nottingham.  Can see why it is one type desperately needed (have built high speed bimodes, lots of commuter electric units in last 10 years, but no regional units for 34+ years).  Nothing really that can work on part electrified routes that's mid to long distance, but not full intercity high speed

Re: Swindon <-> Westbury service updates and amendments, ongoing discussion - 2026
In "TransWilts line" [375361/31359/18]
Posted by IndustryInsider at 18:08, 22nd May 2026
 
16:23 Westbury to Swindon due 17:06
16:23 Westbury to Swindon due 17:06 will be starting late from Westbury.
This is due to congestion.

17:45 Swindon to Westbury due 18:26
17:45 Swindon to Westbury due 18:26 will be starting late from Swindon.
This is due to congestion.

First one ran on time. 

Second one left 11 minutes late (waiting sensibly for connections from London and Oxford), but looks like it only got a short way before returning to Swindon for some reason.

UK sees hottest day of year as bank holiday travellers face queues
In "Across the West" [375360/32055/26]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 17:58, 22nd May 2026
 
From the BBC:

UK sees hottest day of year as bank holiday travellers face queues

The UK is experiencing the hottest day of the year so far, with temperatures forecast to continue to climb above 30C over the bank holiday weekend.

Temperatures reached 28.4C at Heathrow in west London, Cranwell in Lincolnshire and Cambridge on Friday afternoon, the Met Office confirmed. The current May record is 32.8C.

Amber health alerts have been issued for parts of England as families attempt a half-term getaway.

Transport networks are expected to be busy over the bank holiday weekend. Passengers travelling to Europe from the Port of Dover earlier faced delays of several hours, due to the introduction of a new entry and exit system.

There have been warnings of potential congestion on roads to the port between Friday and Sunday, with some 18,000 cars expected to pass through.

(BBC article continues)


Re: West Wiltshire Rail User Group meeting, Trowbridge, 20 May 2026
In "TransWilts line" [375359/32018/18]
Posted by ChrisB at 17:54, 22nd May 2026
 
It's Latin....

Mark A....your luck might eventually be in for your Bristol service

Gradual blurring of TOC boundaries: lots of background work with GWR on future operation of various routes
across Wessex but changes will take time

Re: Swindon <-> Westbury service updates and amendments, ongoing discussion - 2026
In "TransWilts line" [375358/31359/18]
Posted by TaplowGreen at 16:50, 22nd May 2026
 
16:23 Westbury to Swindon due 17:06
16:23 Westbury to Swindon due 17:06 will be starting late from Westbury.
This is due to congestion.

17:45 Swindon to Westbury due 18:26
17:45 Swindon to Westbury due 18:26 will be starting late from Swindon.
This is due to congestion.

Re: HS2 and Northern Powerhouse Rail (NPR) - Government proposals, alternative routes, discussion
In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [375357/5138/51]
Posted by TaplowGreen at 16:47, 22nd May 2026
 

I don't argue that the capacity is needed.  But the project is a farce, and, beyond the capacity that it might produce, has very little benefit (unless you're a consultant or civil engineering contractor.  In which case you're right royally coining it)



The biggest blunder is cancelling phase 2 ie North of Birmingham to Manchester 

As we're over £100 billion to get from Acton to Solihull, how much would the bill have been by now had phase 2 been included?

Re: HS2 and Northern Powerhouse Rail (NPR) - Government proposals, alternative routes, discussion
In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [375356/5138/51]
Posted by Electric train at 16:28, 22nd May 2026
Already liked by eightonedee, Mark A
 

I don't argue that the capacity is needed.  But the project is a farce, and, beyond the capacity that it might produce, has very little benefit (unless you're a consultant or civil engineering contractor.  In which case you're right royally coining it)

The farce was the Trumpian gold plating by previous Prime Ministers especially when then-Prime Minister Boris Johnson gave HS2 the official green light in February 2020, he highlighted its "extraordinarily fast journey times". While speaking in the House of Commons, Johnson stated that the new high-speed trains would "travel at speeds up to 225 miles per hour".  Also the succession of start building in without all the consents and outline decisions being done.

The option to upgrade the existing WCML was never and option, it went through that in the early 2000's and by 2020 all the capacity had been used.

The biggest blunder is cancelling phase 2 ie North of Birmingham to Manchester 

Re: West Wiltshire Rail User Group meeting, Trowbridge, 20 May 2026
In "TransWilts line" [375355/32018/18]
Posted by Western Pathfinder at 15:35, 22nd May 2026
 
Interesting to see that the last part is in Italian!…or Latin .

Re: Thames Valley infrastructure problems causing disruption elsewhere - 2026
In "Across the West" [375354/31163/26]
Posted by John D at 15:33, 22nd May 2026
 
Due to a points failure between Reading and London Paddington fewer trains are able to run on some lines.
Train services running to and from these stations may be cancelled or delayed. Disruption is expected until 15:15 22/05.

Deleted, wrong thread

Re: Thames Valley infrastructure problems causing disruption elsewhere - 2026
In "Across the West" [375353/31163/26]
Posted by TaplowGreen at 15:11, 22nd May 2026
 
........and also the second one of the day a little further West in the Thames Valley.....I guess now it's a little warmer we have to expect the infrastructure/service to start melting down.......literally as well as figuratively

Still, cracking BBQ weather! Just in time for the Bank Holiday weekend!

Cancellations to services between Reading and Newbury

Due to a points failure between Reading and Newbury some lines are blocked.
Train services running to and from these stations may be cancelled, delayed or revised. Disruption is expected until 19:00 22/05.

Re: Thames Valley infrastructure problems causing disruption elsewhere - 2026
In "Across the West" [375352/31163/26]
Posted by NickB at 13:34, 22nd May 2026
 
Due to a points failure between Reading and London Paddington fewer trains are able to run on some lines.
Train services running to and from these stations may be cancelled or delayed. Disruption is expected until 15:15 22/05.

Re: West Wiltshire Rail User Group meeting, Trowbridge, 20 May 2026
In "TransWilts line" [375351/32018/18]
Posted by GBM at 12:23, 22nd May 2026
 
Excellent evening with update from Andrew A.

For member - slide set here
The mention of GWR/Chiltern - might this be the battery train?

Re: Wokingham station - improvements, resignalling and siding - merged posts
In "South Western services" [375350/11448/42]
Posted by GBM at 12:04, 22nd May 2026
 
Incidentally, since when were OS grid coordinates called X and Y?[/i]

Since never, but unfortunately I assume the days of our schoolchildren being taught something as useful as Ordnance Survey map reading are long gone.
Apart from the Ten Tors for children who navigate the moor with only maps!

Re: West Wiltshire Rail User Group meeting, Trowbridge, 20 May 2026
In "TransWilts line" [375349/32018/18]
Posted by grahame at 11:28, 22nd May 2026
Already liked by GBM
 
Excellent evening with update from Andrew A.

For member - slide set here

Re: Manvers Street, Bath, disrupted for reconstruction works for 6 months from May.
In "Buses and other ways to travel" [375348/31887/5]
Posted by Mark A at 09:15, 22nd May 2026
 
For the next six months in Bath, how are faciilities being provided for personal needs breaks for bus staff on the routes affected, anyone?

Mark

Re: Manvers Street, Bath, disrupted for reconstruction works for 6 months from May.
In "Buses and other ways to travel" [375347/31887/5]
Posted by Mark A at 09:14, 22nd May 2026
 
On the Manvers Street northbound stop - that useful one when leaving the train - the industry seems to be slowly removing its remaining bus services - starting with the 11 to Bathampton. The notice for that *does* have a map but it took me a moment to interpret it as it doesn't show the railway station. Possibly for good reason as the bus will now only stop at the far end of Dorchester Street, so, Number 11 bus passengers who've been on a train - "Welcome to Awkwardsville".

There's also, now, the 'Notice' version of that web page which is mapless - but in common with their web page on this forthcoming disruption, a map would illustrate the extent to which the bus network is disrupted and exactly how much walking people will need to do to make connections. (Both below...)

Stars of the show is Stagecoach's 620 bus, which continues to run to the bus station albeit via a diversion - and usefully stops at a couple of stops on the diversion too - as does the 700 that runs a very occasional service to the decidedly poor area surrounding Julian Road and also the prosperous part of the city up at Sion Hill.

Mark






Re: Thames Valley infrastructure problems causing disruption elsewhere - 2026
In "Across the West" [375346/31163/26]
Posted by TaplowGreen at 09:11, 22nd May 2026
 
Cancellations to services between Newbury and Reading

Due to a fault with the signalling system between Newbury and Reading trains have to run at reduced speed on some lines.

Train services running to and from these stations may be cancelled or delayed by up to 25 minutes. Disruption is expected until 11:45 22/05.

Re: Wokingham station - improvements, resignalling and siding - merged posts
In "South Western services" [375345/11448/42]
Posted by Bob_Blakey at 08:55, 22nd May 2026
Already liked by eightonedee, Witham Bobby
 
Incidentally, since when were OS grid coordinates called X and Y?[/i]

Since never, but unfortunately I assume the days of our schoolchildren being taught something as useful as Ordnance Survey map reading are long gone.

Re: Swindon <-> Westbury service updates and amendments, ongoing discussion - 2026
In "TransWilts line" [375344/31359/18]
Posted by grahame at 08:22, 22nd May 2026
 
07:45 Westbury to Swindon due 08:34
08:44 Swindon to Westbury due 09:26

08:44 Swindon to Westbury due 09:26 will be cancelled.
This is due to a fault with the signalling system.

Confusion reigns!    Industry open data feeds still report cancelled, but are giving actual times for it running


Re: Thames Valley infrastructure problems causing disruption elsewhere - 2026
In "Across the West" [375342/31163/26]
Posted by TaplowGreen at 07:31, 22nd May 2026
 
Cancellations to services between Reading and London Paddington

Due to a points failure between Reading and London Paddington fewer trains are able to run on some lines.

Train services running to and from these stations may be cancelled or delayed. Disruption is expected until 10:15 22/05.

Re: Manvers Street, Bath, disrupted for reconstruction works for 6 months from May.
In "Buses and other ways to travel" [375340/31887/5]
Posted by grahame at 06:07, 22nd May 2026
 

Ye gods they could do with a map and connection advice!

Re: Paddle Steamer Waverley - merged posts
In "Heritage railways, Railtours, buses, canals, steamships and other public transport based attractions" [375339/19566/47]
Posted by grahame at 06:06, 22nd May 2026
Already liked by PrestburyRoad, GBM, Mark A
 
From the BBC:

Waverley paddle steamer helps out passengers after CalMac ferry breaks down

The crew of a 79-year-old paddle steamer offered passengers a lift from Mull to Oban after their CalMac ferry was hit by a fault.

The Waverley was headed down the Sound of Mull when MV Isle of Mull broke down on Tuesday.

Another CalMac ferry, the MV Loch Frisa, was available but not all the passengers could be accommodated on a 18:40 sailing and the Waverley's crew asked if it could help out.

Some 42 foot passengers were picked up at Craignure and returned to Oban.

(BBC article continues)


https://www.firstgreatwestern.info/coffeeshop/index.php?topic=27523

Something of a co-incidence, Mull comes up again (and indeed Craignure) "On this day" today with the first steam locomotive run on the island in May 1983

Your report, Chris, also brings back memories of a trip of my own on Waverley in - it must have been 1976 or 1977 - when we were sailing up the Clyde and one of the paddle boards came loose. A dreadful thump every time the paddle wheel turned and we dropped to a crawl, and tied up at the nearest emergency place we could which happened to be an oil terminal.  A tiny figure of a security guard appeared on the jetty and shouted "You can't tied up here".  Wanna bet - big ship, lots of people on a beautiful sunny evening.

TS Queen Mary - in her last year or 2 - was also coming up to Glasgow that evening, and she tied up alongside Waverley and all the passengers transferred across to complete our journey into Glasgow - a rescue story from many years ago.  And the last two steam powered passenger boats on the Clyde tied up at - oops - the fuel depot.   That was my final trip on Waverley in CalMac hands and I suspected it might have been my last ever.  Little did I realise ...

Re: Swindon <-> Westbury service updates and amendments, ongoing discussion - 2026
In "TransWilts line" [375338/31359/18]
Posted by grahame at 05:50, 22nd May 2026
 
07:45 Westbury to Swindon due 08:34
08:44 Swindon to Westbury due 09:26

08:44 Swindon to Westbury due 09:26 will be cancelled.
This is due to a fault with the signalling system.

Re: Manvers Street, Bath, disrupted for reconstruction works for 6 months from May.
In "Buses and other ways to travel" [375337/31887/5]
Posted by Mark A at 20:51, 21st May 2026

Re: Paddle Steamer Waverley - merged posts
In "Heritage railways, Railtours, buses, canals, steamships and other public transport based attractions" [375336/19566/47]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 18:25, 21st May 2026
 
From the BBC:

Waverley paddle steamer helps out passengers after CalMac ferry breaks down

The crew of a 79-year-old paddle steamer offered passengers a lift from Mull to Oban after their CalMac ferry was hit by a fault.

The Waverley was headed down the Sound of Mull when MV Isle of Mull broke down on Tuesday.

Another CalMac ferry, the MV Loch Frisa, was available but not all the passengers could be accommodated on a 18:40 sailing and the Waverley's crew asked if it could help out.

Some 42 foot passengers were picked up at Craignure and returned to Oban.

(BBC article continues)


Re: Person hit by train, Taunton 24/10/2025 - Harry Basham, age 17, walking to work
In "London to the West" [375335/30967/12]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 18:06, 21st May 2026
 
From the BBC:

Teen's rail crossing death was accidental - coroner

The death of a teenager who was struck and killed by a train on a pedestrian railway crossing was an accident, a coroner has concluded.

Harry Basham, 17, was hit by the train in Taunton, Somerset, as he walked to work at about 07:00 BST on 24 October 2025.

Somerset senior coroner Samantha Marsh said there was no evidence he "intended to harm himself" but accepted why he was on the track remained "unanswered".

A Network Rail spokesperson said: "Our thoughts remain with Harry's family and friends and the local community following the tragic accident at the 5/13 railway crossing. We will continue our engagement with local authorities, stakeholders and the community on the future of the crossing."

(BBC article continues)


 
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