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As at 23rd November 2024 18:51 GMT
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Re: Petition for mileage based fares
Posted by eXPassenger at 17:37, 23rd November 2024
 

Distance related fares are something that I have supported for quite some time; the price of any service, particularly one partially funded by the tax payer, should to some extent reflect the cost of providing it. I fully understand that this is not a simple calculation, and there are a myriad of things (potential variations) to be considered before settling on an appropriate £/mile metric.



I would imagine the cost of tickets on services such as the Night Riviera would be unaffordable to just about everyone were that formula to be followed.

A potential solution would be to taper the cost of rail travel over a specified distance.

For example:
First 150 miles x p/mile
Next 50 miles .75 x p/mile
Next 50 miles .50 x p/mile

This algorithm would be published as part of new mileage based fares.  Similarly off peak fares could be charged as a specified % of the standard fare.

Re: Shortage of train crews on Great Western Railway - ongoing discussion
Posted by TaplowGreen at 17:21, 23rd November 2024
 
............similar story with the Reading-Gatwick service too..........although no road replacement there, customers being told to travel "much earlier"

With four return trips being cancelled so far (with no successive cancellations) on a twice per hour service, there is only a delay of 30 minutes to most prospective passengers, less on parts of the route that SWR overlap. 

I would imagine any form of road replacement would be of little use given how much slower it generally is?

Just quoting GWR.............SWR also have a number of cancellations on their Gatwick services.

Re: Shortage of train crews on Great Western Railway - ongoing discussion
Posted by IndustryInsider at 16:42, 23rd November 2024
 
............similar story with the Reading-Gatwick service too..........although no road replacement there, customers being told to travel "much earlier"

With four return trips being cancelled so far (with no successive cancellations) on a twice per hour service, there is only a delay of 30 minutes to most prospective passengers, less on parts of the route that SWR overlap. 

I would imagine any form of road replacement would be of little use given how much slower it generally is?

Re: Petition for mileage based fares
Posted by TaplowGreen at 16:27, 23rd November 2024
 

Distance related fares are something that I have supported for quite some time; the price of any service, particularly one partially funded by the tax payer, should to some extent reflect the cost of providing it. I fully understand that this is not a simple calculation, and there are a myriad of things (potential variations) to be considered before settling on an appropriate £/mile metric.



I would imagine the cost of tickets on services such as the Night Riviera would be unaffordable to just about everyone were that formula to be followed.

Re: North Cotswold Line delays and cancellations - 2024
Posted by Worcester_Passenger at 16:26, 23rd November 2024
 
Saturday November 23 was going well until

1W25 12:53 London Paddington to Worcester Foregate St departed +15, arrived Shrub Hill +19 and didn't make it to Foregate St.
1W27 13:50 London Paddington to Great Malvern ran OK

14:52 London Paddington to Great Malvern due 17:14 will no longer call at Hanborough, Kingham, Honeybourne, Pershore and Worcestershire Parkway Hl.
This is due to a fault with the signalling system.
Last Updated:23/11/2024 15:14
Departed Paddington +29, arrived (after skipping stations) +18.

Re: Shortage of train crews on Great Western Railway - ongoing discussion
Posted by TaplowGreen at 16:14, 23rd November 2024
 
............similar story with the Reading-Gatwick service too..........although no road replacement there, customers being told to travel "much earlier"


Cancellations to services between Reading and Basingstoke

Due to a shortage of train crew between Reading and Basingstoke fewer trains are able to run on some lines.
Train services running to and from these stations will be cancelled or delayed. Disruption is expected until the end of the day.

Customer Advice

Due to crew shortages between Reading to Basingstoke (return) fewer trains will run. Rail replacement transport has been requested. However, transport is limited and will be running late. Where possible please speak to station staff.

Service running 30+ minutes early
Posted by Mark A at 16:13, 23rd November 2024
 
The return run of Edinburgh to Gloucester charter.

*At home: looks through window* Hope that on this day it continues to make good time.

Mark

https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/service/gb-nr:U34823/2024-11-23/detailed

Man has 500 bikes for Africa refused at port - Scotland, November 2024
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 16:06, 23rd November 2024
 
From the BBC:



A man who tried to send 500 bikes to a charity in Africa had them refused at a Scottish port after they were classed as waste.

Nigel Carter, 64, had been gathering bicycles across Scotland to be shipped to Sudan, to help people who need access to cheap transport.

The Scottish Environment Protection Agency (SEPA) said the shipment could not leave the country as an inspector had deemed them unfit for purpose because some of them needed repairs.

The bikes were shipped back to Mr Carter in Comrie, Perthshire, which he said meant they risked being scrapped.

Mr Carter told BBC Scotland's Drivetime on Thursday that he had gathered the bikes from Scottish recycling centres to offer to Scottish charities - and those not taken were given to a charity in Sudan.  The current civil war in the north east African country means there is a lack of resources such as oil and fuel, so bikes have become more sought after.

The bikes were shipped in a container to a Scottish port, where it was stopped for an inspection by environment officials.

Gary Walker, a waste manager at Sepa, said some of the bikes needed repairs before they could be reused.

The container was sent back to Mr Carter.  He told the BBC he thought it was "ludicrous" that his container had not met the shipping requirements.

Mr Carter said he did not think there was a set standard that the bicycles were marked against and the inspector's decision was arbitrary.  "It's as whimsical as if someone were to have a bad day, they could refuse the container," he said.

Mr Walker from Sepa said the repairs necessary to the bikes meant they were considered waste.  He said he had a duty to ensure that Scotland’s waste was not simply dumped in another country.

In a statement, Sepa told BBC Scotland they had contacted Mr Carter about the bicycle repairs before shipment and they were disappointed in their condition by the time they were shipped.  They said they were not confident that the bikes would be reused as bikes.

Mr Carter said he suspected some of the bikes would need work when they arrived in Africa but did not understand what else they would have been used for.  According to Mr Carter the repairs raised by Sepa were only minor and easily fixed, including oil on chains, rusted frames and broken brake cables.  He said that these repairs would be more cost effective if carried out in Sudan rather than in Scotland.

The Sudanese charity receiving the bikes had picked them out and were happy with their condition, Mr Carter said.  He added that the bikes were also approved by qualified bicycle mechanics.

The bikes would have been used across Sudan for children to get to school or to help people run their businesses.  He told the BBC it was costing the Sudanese charity for the shipping container to be sitting in "limbo" and puts them at risk of closing.

Mr Carter said the bikes will now most likely be scrapped or taken back to the recycling centre, where they were picked from.

Re: First it was squirrels.....
Posted by Zoe at 14:16, 23rd November 2024
 
Next they'll be asking passengers to drive the trains!

Might help with regular driver shortages.
I seem to remember back in the 1990s Great Eastern Railway having the idea of using commuters as guards although it never came to anything.

Re: First it was squirrels.....
Posted by JayMac at 13:47, 23rd November 2024
 
Next they'll be asking passengers to drive the trains!

Might help with regular driver shortages.

Re: Advert - take the train to Gatwick. ALL the way from home to Gatwick!!
Posted by TaplowGreen at 12:49, 23rd November 2024
 
Cancellations to services between Reading and Gatwick Airport

Due to a shortage of train crew between Reading and Gatwick Airport fewer trains are able to run on some lines.

Train services running to and from these stations will be cancelled or delayed. Disruption is expected until the end of the day
.
Customer Advice
Due to train crew shortages throughout the day, a number of train services operating between Reading - Gatwick Airport (both directions) have been cancelled/ altered.

Re: North Cotswold Line delays and cancellations - 2024
Posted by ChrisB at 12:33, 23rd November 2024
 
Migfht have been on that train on its previous (previous night's?) journey maybe?

Re: First it was squirrels.....
Posted by Trowres at 12:18, 23rd November 2024
 
Continuing to widen the theme of weird messaging, this appeared on Journeycheck.com/greatwesternrailway today:

Westbury: Staffing
Westbury station will be single staffed from now until the end of the day.
Additional Information
Please be prepared to assist with dispatch or self dispatch if necessary.
Last Updated:23/11/2024 11:00

Re: Petition for mileage based fares
Posted by Bob_Blakey at 11:38, 23rd November 2024
 
Distance related fares are something that I have supported for quite some time; the price of any service, particularly one partially funded by the tax payer, should to some extent reflect the cost of providing it. I fully understand that this is not a simple calculation, and there are a myriad of things (potential variations) to be considered before settling on an appropriate £/mile metric.

But I do not accept that just because a particular area has been benefitting from what are effectively discounted fares since the year dot that this should be allowed to continue; not that long ago cheaper Off-Peak tickets from/to Avocet Line stations into/out of Exeter were completely withdrawn in favour of the Anytime product and I don't recall any public protests or reduction in passenger numbers.

The DfT civil service number crunchers should be tasked to look at the current situation in terms of £/mile fare variations nationally.


Re: Pilning Low Level to Severn Beach - closed 23rd November 1964
Posted by johnneyw at 11:18, 23rd November 2024
 
Might some of the land Bob_Blakey is referring to already be earmarked for what seems to be the ever ongoing light industrial developments around Severn Beach?  If so, would that scupper any chances of rebuilding a link or would it potentially make such land available?
Regardless of that, perhaps a curve/chord connection with the Henbury Loop line from the Severn Beach direction might help with rail connectivity in the area more cost effectively?  I remember a report being quoted on this forum some while back which included this idea in it's proposals.

Re: Equipment Failure and Snow closure of EXD - Barnstaple and Okehampton 21112024
Posted by AMLAG at 10:06, 23rd November 2024
 

This is regretfully nothing new and has been going on intermittently for several weeks; thus giving misleading and confusing information to passengers on the information screens on stations and scrolling screens on local trains.
GWR and its Contractors seem unable to completely rectify these problems.

Re: Shortage of train crews on Great Western Railway - ongoing discussion
Posted by grahame at 10:01, 23rd November 2024
 
Out and about this morning ... and the train departure screen has a rolling message telling you that trains will be disturbed tomorrow due to "Engineering works between London and Reading and crew availability".  It goes on to tell you to check your journey on Sunday morning and I wondered and I wonder whatever has happened to things like the 12 week notice of disruption to plan ahead.   There ARE lots of signs already about the engineering closure from Chippenham through to Westbury and Frome from 24th December to 24th January.

Re: Where was PhilW on 22/11/24
Posted by PhilWakely at 09:56, 23rd November 2024
 
Charring Cross

Yes, I booked onto one of London Transport Museum's Hidden London Tours - 'Charing Cross, Access all areas'. This was the Fleet Line (subsequently renamed The Jubilee Line) temporary (20year temporary!) terminus. Now closed more years than it was open.

Along with several other Hidden London tours, I would recommend it. It doesn't seem 45 years ago that I travelled on one of the first trains!

The posters are deliberately 'fake' so as not to break any copyright laws when filming takes place (yes, amongst others, Charing Cross deep level tube was renamed 'Temple' on the District Line (!) for the James Bond film 'Skyfall'). Filming takes place on Platform 4, whilst Platform 3 has been essentially stripped bare and is used by TfL for experimenting for various tube projects.




Re: Pilning Low Level to Severn Beach - closed 23rd November 1964
Posted by Bob_Blakey at 09:39, 23rd November 2024
 
Closure of line from Pilning to Severn Beach to.....in 1964 and (which) has been covered by houses and motorways and won't be back in our lifetime.....

You say that, and I realise I might be invited to a stay in secure accommodation for even suggesting the following, but given the political will (fat chance) and finance (no chance) it appears from Google Maps that it would not be difficult, keeping Severn Beach as a terminus, to build a new line which leaves the existing infrastructure in an easterly direction around 550m south of SVB and then runs roughly parallel to the A403 until turning SE to rejoin the old trackbed back to Pilning Station.

NIMBYism on the part of whoever owns what appears to be active famland could be dealt with by the appropriate use of one or more viaducts or underpasses.

Would the local, and wider, transport benefits outweigh the cost? The Treasury computer would say 'NO'.

Re: Where was PhilW on 22/11/24
Posted by Oxonhutch at 09:29, 23rd November 2024
 
Charring Cross

Re: Pilning Low Level to Severn Beach - closed 23rd November 1964
Posted by grahame at 08:49, 23rd November 2024
 
60 years ago today - a closure that split a network into disjoint individual lines.    Imagine today with staff for the Severnside businesses at Avonmouth, Stan Drew's Road and Severn Beach who live in South Wales changing at Pilning on their way into work, and passengers from Severnside changing there for the frequent electric service into London.

Re: Where was PhilW on 22/11/24
Posted by PhilWakely at 08:49, 23rd November 2024
 
After 11 hours and nearly 60 views.... Hugh Jass's theatre break needs a slightly easier clue (and I thought the forum's night owls would have solved it very quickly)............


Re: Where was PhilW on 22/11/24
Posted by Red Squirrel at 07:48, 23rd November 2024
 
Isn’t Hugh Jass a denizen of Moe’s Bar?

Re: 2024 - Service update and amendment log, Swindon <-> Westbury
Posted by brooklea at 07:11, 23rd November 2024
 
Hmm. 
 
There was a slightly different message at 07:31
This is due to a late running train being in front of this one.

This is due to a shortage of train crew.
Last Updated:22/11/2024 07:36

... seems to me to be entirely inconsistent. 


It does rather.

Noting that the previous service of the train to form the 07:45 from Westbury to Swindon is the 06:13 Bristol Parkway to Westbury, according to RTT this had a unit swap at Bristol Temple Meads from 158767 to 166218. The 158 arrived at Temple Meads 12 minutes late, but the 166 left 63 minutes late at 07:43! I wonder if the “shortage of train crew” could relate to needing a driver to bring 166218 from a siding somewhere to form the onward working to Westbury?

In any event, clearly the 07:45 to Swindon would be, at best, a late start when the train to form it had only just left Bristol at 07:45. Unfortunate that it couldn’t have run as far as Chippenham, even with a severe delay, in order to start the return working to Westbury from there, but I suppose a decision was made that the risk of delay to other services was too great?

Re: 2024 - Service update and amendment log, Swindon <-> Westbury
Posted by TaplowGreen at 04:32, 23rd November 2024
 
20:08 Westbury to Swindon due 20:54
20:08 Westbury to Swindon due 20:54 will be cancelled.
This is due to a shortage of train crew.

21:10 Swindon to Westbury due 21:52
21:10 Swindon to Westbury due 21:52 will be cancelled.
This is due to a shortage of train crew.

Where was PhilW on 22/11/24
Posted by PhilWakely at 22:14, 22nd November 2024
 
Probably very easy for the forum's location detectives.


Re: Equipment Failure and Snow closure of EXD - Barnstaple and Okehampton 21112024
Posted by PhilWakely at 21:59, 22nd November 2024
 
We are sorry for the disruption to your journey this morning.
-
Snow fall earlier had caused a points failure at Crediton which prevented us from running trains on the line between Exeter and Barnstaple. The snowfall has also caused a number of trees to fall on to the railway. We currently have a train running along the line from Crediton to Okehampton with Network Rail staff who are inspecting the line and removing the trees as they find them. Once that is done they will then use the train to inspect the line between Crediton and Barnstaple. Once that inspection is complete we hope to be able to start running trains, but at this time we do not have an estimate for when this will be.

I think somebody at GWR needs a geography lesson............. I was at Polsloe Bridge this (Fri 22nd) morning waiting for the 08:47 service to Paignton. As the automated announcement for the imminent arrival of the service was broadcast, the additional message "This train may be disrupted after Exeter St David's due to adverse weather conditions between Exeter St David's and BARNSTAPLE" was added.

Re: BTP phone number: changes to call charges
Posted by eightonedee at 21:44, 22nd November 2024
 
Thanks Mark - saw it, said it, sorted!

BTP phone number: changes to call charges
Posted by Mark A at 21:29, 22nd November 2024
 
The BTP number - 61016 - is now free to text from mobile phones. (Prior to this, the user, if they used the number, would be presented with a warning about unspecified charges which was a bit offputting...)

Mark

 
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