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Re: Portishead Line reopening for passengers - ongoing discussion
In "Campaigns for new and improved services" [376893/231/28]
Posted by chuffed at 16:03, 10th July 2026
 
There is a new Network Rail newsletter on their website dated July 2026 with maps,explanations and photographs.

Re: Ryanair - routes, schedules, incidents and issues (merged posts)
In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [376892/29076/51]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 15:49, 10th July 2026
 
From the BBC:

Man nearly sucked out of window mid-air on Ryanair plane, passengers say

A passenger was reportedly nearly sucked out of a cabin window in mid-air on a Ryanair plane.

Witnesses told local media the man, said to be a Serbian citizen in his 60s, was left hanging head first out of the window as far as his shoulders for several minutes, before other passengers on the flight managed to pull him back inside.

In a statement, Ryanair said its Friday morning flight from the Greek city of Thessaloniki to Germany's Memmingen returned "shortly after take-off when a passenger window dislodged inflight".

It continued: "The aircraft landed normally and passengers returned to the terminal. One passenger requested and received medical assistance on the ground in Thessaloniki."

The Irish budget airline added that "a replacement aircraft was arranged to bring passengers to Memmingen" several hours later.

Media reports in Greece and Germany quoted passengers describing a loud bang followed by the window breaking and oxygen masks falling from the ceiling shortly after the Boeing 737 had taken off. They believe the window was smashed by pieces of the jet's engine - although Ryanair has not commented on this.

"We immediately realised there had been a decompression. There were screams... for a moment I thought someone had accidentally opened the emergency door," Christina, a fellow passenger, told Radio Thessaloniki. The masks dropped and there was a strong smell. The head and shoulders of one passenger were outside the window. Fortunately, he hadn't taken off his seat belt."

The aircraft - believed to have been an 18 year-old-plane - was operated by Ryanair's subsidiary Malta Air.

The Irish Aviation Authority (IAA) later told the BBC that it "is aware of the incident involving a Ryanair group aircraft, registered and operated by Malta Air, departing Thessaloniki this morning.  The IAA will provide any requested assistance to the aviation safety investigation authority in Greece and the Maltese Civil Aviation Directorate, to aid their investigation," it said.

In 2018, a passenger died when debris from a damaged engine caused a window to break on a Southwest Airlines flight in the US, and she was partially sucked out.


Re: Thames Valley infrastructure problems causing disruption elsewhere - 2026
In "Across the West" [376891/31163/26]
Posted by Electric train at 15:32, 10th July 2026
 
Err..........the explanation we've received for GWR trains running non stop to/from Reading to Paddington was that it was largely due to the likelihood of points (such as those at Dolphin Junction) falling over due to hot weather.

So customers who use Twyford/Maidenhead/Slough and smaller stations fall back to the Elizabeth Line, but if that fallback did not exist, what options would they have?

If that option didn't exist then the GWR services would be able to run on the relief lines all the way from Reading to Paddington making the normal stops.

Going back even further in time , before Turbos (165/6) with the all stations Padd - Slough and the Padd- Rdg semi fast (Ealing Bway, Slough Burnham Taplow Maidenhead Twyford) the default in hot weather was to run all stops Padd - Rdg that was torture especially as more often than not it was a 3 car air-con had not been invented   

Re: First-ever UK Town of Culture competition launched
In "Introductions and chat" [376890/31453/1]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 15:29, 10th July 2026
 
An update, from the BBC:

Frustration as towns miss out on culture prize


Nine places across the Somerset Council area have missed out on being the UK's first Town of Culture

A tourism boss has said it is "frustrating" that no places across the West Country have been shortlisted for the UK's first Town of Culture.

Nine places across the Somerset Council area applied for the honour of being crowned UK Town of Culture 2028, which is similar to the more established City of Culture scheme.

Bridgwater, Taunton, Watchet, Wells, Yeovil, Bruton, Glastonbury, Frome and Shepton Mallet all missed out on the 15-name shortlist, with 400 towns applying.

Giles Adams from the Visit Somerset tourism board said: "It's frustrating. With respect to those towns selected, I don't want to appear sour but it does strike me that there is a focus on the north and the south west misses out. I think with these big competitions, there are very corporate and it always felt like things would be given to more northern town," Adams added.

Other places in the West including Clevedon, Weston-super-Mare, Filton, Emersons Green, Corsham and Nailsea were also unsuccessful.

Towns selected for the shortlist include Ilfracombe, Sandown, Pontypridd, Port Talbot, Birkenhead, Grimsby and Rotherham.

Each place will now receive £60,000 to develop a full bid and three winners - best small, medium and large town bid - will be chosen early next year.

An overall winner from these three finalists then will be crowned the UK Town of Culture 2028 and receive a £3m grant to host cultural events.

Jeremy James, events manager at Bridgwater Town Council, said: "There will be disappointment as it does garner excitement and energy doing the bid. I think the West Country needs to bang its a drum a bit. There were over 400 towns that went for this so it was always going to be a lottery."

Culture Secretary Lisa Nandy said: "I am so glad that so many towns have applied and I hope each and every town, whether they have been shortlisted or not, is incredibly proud of the work they have done to champion their local community."


My highlighting (fairly obviously). Chris from Nailsea.

Re: British Airways chief comment on UK rail fares
In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [376889/32106/51]
Posted by Mark A at 15:12, 10th July 2026
 
A different animal from the days when it was under the management of Adrian Shooter, alas, when part of the aspirations map looked like this.

Mark


Re: British Airways chief comment on UK rail fares
In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [376888/32106/51]
Posted by grahame at 15:06, 10th July 2026
 
Chiltern really have abandoned Stratford-Upon-Avon.

Indeed.  Weren't Chiltern the longest franchise and really admired at one point?  Perhaps with the writing on the wall for the franchise system and with other causes too, they have (naturally) ceased to look forward in the way they used to? 

Re: Swindon <-> Westbury service updates and amendments, ongoing discussion - 2026
In "TransWilts line - Swindon, Chippenham, Melksham, Trowbridge, Westbury, Salisbury" [376887/31359/18]
Posted by grahame at 15:01, 10th July 2026
 
14:18 Westbury to Swindon due 15:01

14:18 Westbury to Swindon due 15:01 has been cancelled.
This is due to a fault on this train.


followed with a feeling of inevitability by

15:14 Swindon to Westbury due 15:58
16:23 Westbury to Swindon due 17:06
17:45 Swindon to Westbury due 18:26

17:45 Swindon to Westbury due 18:26 will be cancelled.
This is due to a broken down train.

Re: Swindon <-> Westbury service updates and amendments, ongoing discussion - 2026
In "TransWilts line - Swindon, Chippenham, Melksham, Trowbridge, Westbury, Salisbury" [376886/31359/18]
Posted by grahame at 14:52, 10th July 2026
 
14:18 Westbury to Swindon due 15:01

14:18 Westbury to Swindon due 15:01 has been cancelled.
This is due to a fault on this train.

Re: Newton Abbot Station in the news ... Ann Widdecombe, RIP
In "The Lighter Side" [376885/7855/30]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 12:24, 10th July 2026
 
An update, from the BBC:

Former Tory minister Ann Widdecombe dies at 78

Former Conservative minister turned Reform UK spokeswoman Ann Widdecombe has died aged 78.

(BBC article continues)


Re: British Airways chief comment on UK rail fares
In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [376884/32106/51]
Posted by IndustryInsider at 11:15, 10th July 2026
Already liked by Mark A
 
Chiltern really have abandoned Stratford-Upon-Avon.

If you look back to when Thames Trains used to run the trains from Paddington (using summer 1998 as an example) there were weekday direct services from Paddington at 09:18, 11:18, 13:48, 16:48, 18:48 (19:03 on Fridays), and coming back at 06:54, 11:55, 14:10, 17:32, 20:00 and the late one at 23:15.

Fast forward ten years when Chiltern were operating it and there were direct weekday services from Marylebone at 07:23, 08:54, 10:54, 12:54, 14:54, 16:36, 17:41 and 19:33.  Return trains at 06:46, 07:36, 09:42, 11:40, 13:40, 15:40, 17:40, and 19:43...with a late RSC connection to Paddington off of a 23:00 Oxford service.  An excellent service, though it was better in many ways when Thames Trains operated it as it linked the major tourist hotspots of London and Stratford with the other ones of Oxford and Windsor (via Slough).

Fast forward another ten years (nearly), and in terms of direct trains...nothing!  Apart from that token operationally convenient 2-car at 21:33 which returns the train used on the shuttle service all day back to London.

Re: Thames Valley infrastructure problems causing disruption elsewhere - 2026
In "Across the West" [376883/31163/26]
Posted by IndustryInsider at 10:43, 10th July 2026
 
Err..........the explanation we've received for GWR trains running non stop to/from Reading to Paddington was that it was largely due to the likelihood of points (such as those at Dolphin Junction) falling over due to hot weather.

So customers who use Twyford/Maidenhead/Slough and smaller stations fall back to the Elizabeth Line, but if that fallback did not exist, what options would they have?

If that option didn't exist then the GWR services would be able to run on the relief lines all the way from Reading to Paddington making the normal stops.

Re: SWR timetable consultation - a suggestion
In "Portsmouth to Cardiff" [376882/32168/20]
Posted by Mark A at 10:19, 10th July 2026
 
Apart from being mortified that I've not joined, I wonder if the WWRUG  has a category of membership for the likes of organisations. A 'Corporate' class of membership as it were..

Mark

I don't believe we have such a class - we are a USER group - but we would love to have you as a member, Mark.   On the other way round, WWRUG *is* a member of organisations which have corporate memberships.

That's reasonable. I was thinking that a move to reinstate this service could really do with backing from the organisations that would benefit. For starters, that's further and higher education. Universities promote sustainable travel and their marketing departments certainly keep tabs on the 'catchment areas' they serve. They shouldn't be averse to backing a move to reintroduce through services via Salisbury if its something that would directly benefit their students and also their bottom line.

Perhaps such organisations should task a member of staff to contribute to SWR's timetable consultation, but they can also use their links with local politicians and MPs. It would be good to provide information on the lines of communication they should pursue on this. WWRG members may be able to say what would be most effective. The Scottish Borders Railway campaign really took off when people started discussing at the hairdressers, so to speak - out in the community and among people who wouldn't think of themselves as 'Rail campaigners'. Wiltshire's trains to Waterloo may already be in that fortunate position.

Mark

Re: Thames Valley infrastructure problems causing disruption elsewhere - 2026
In "Across the West" [376881/31163/26]
Posted by BBM at 09:40, 10th July 2026
 
So customers who use Twyford/Maidenhead/Slough and smaller stations fall back to the Elizabeth Line, but if that fallback did not exist, what options would they have?

As far as Twyford is concerned, GWR has said a few times this week on their X that passengers can take a fast train to Reading and then double-back on Elizabeth Line services. That happened to me a few times when I used to commute in pre-EL days but then of course all stoppers were operated by GWR.

Re: British Airways chief comment on UK rail fares
In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [376880/32106/51]
Posted by ChrisB at 09:33, 10th July 2026
 
There used to be a connection off the 2314 ex-SAV to Banbury that reached PAD just after 0200. Unfortunately, it appears that the DfT has got to that connection and GWR have broken the BAN connection by now leaving 30 mins before the arrival from SAV, and also removing the OXF-RDG leg completely.

Re: Thames Valley infrastructure problems causing disruption elsewhere - 2026
In "Across the West" [376879/31163/26]
Posted by grahame at 09:04, 10th July 2026
 
So customers who use Twyford/Maidenhead/Slough and smaller stations fall back to the Elizabeth Line, but if that fallback did not exist, what options would they have?

Hypothetical, perhaps to the extent of being of academic interest only?

I am noting today, in amongst missed stops, there are a number of extra stops at Maidenhead

18:08 London Paddington to Frome due 20:00

18:08 London Paddington to Frome due 20:00 will call additionally at Maidenhead.
This is due to severe weather.

which I suspect is a main line platform call.  And that train calls at Twyford too ...

Re: Thames Valley infrastructure problems causing disruption elsewhere - 2026
In "Across the West" [376878/31163/26]
Posted by TaplowGreen at 08:59, 10th July 2026
 
Err...surely the only difference sharing the relief lines east of Reading with the  Elizabeth Line makes to GWR when disruption occurs is to reduce the available capacity for them to use these lines when the OHL on the main lines only fails?

The "get out of jail" (odd expression for coping with disruption to their business) remains the slower alternative of taking Waterloo trains from Reading.

Err..........the explanation we've received for GWR trains running non stop to/from Reading to Paddington was that it was largely due to the likelihood of points (such as those at Dolphin Junction) falling over due to hot weather.

So customers who use Twyford/Maidenhead/Slough and smaller stations fall back to the Elizabeth Line, but if that fallback did not exist, what options would they have?


Re: Thames Valley infrastructure problems causing disruption elsewhere - 2026
In "Across the West" [376877/31163/26]
Posted by eightonedee at 08:03, 10th July 2026
Already liked by Marlburian
 
Err...surely the only difference sharing the relief lines east of Reading with the  Elizabeth Line makes to GWR when disruption occurs is to reduce the available capacity for them to use these lines when the OHL on the main lines only fails?

The "get out of jail" (odd expression for coping with disruption to their business) remains the slower alternative of taking Waterloo trains from Reading.

[otd] 15th July - St Swithins day - next 40 days
In "Looking forward - the next 2, 5, 10 and 20 years" [376876/32214/40]
Posted by grahame at 08:02, 10th July 2026
 
Researching "on this day" - we have gaps this month as July is a quiet month in the calendar and we have gaps - I came across the Britsih "Groundhog Day".  """July 15 in the UK is celebrated as St Swithin's Day, marking the 971 AD translation of the Anglo-Saxon bishop's relics to Winchester Cathedral. According to British folklore, whatever the weather is like on this day - whether rain or sunshine - will continue for the next 40 days and nights."""

And waking this morning (10th July) I find GWR reporting 54 trains cancelled completly and 66 more not serving all the stations they are supposed to.  They tell us on JourneyCheck """The high temperatures that are forecast for today can lead to an increase in points failures."""

Publishing a timetable and then amending it on an almost-routine basis feels less than satisfactory to me, but then what are the alternatives?

Re: Thames Valley infrastructure problems causing disruption elsewhere - 2026
In "Across the West" [376875/31163/26]
Posted by TaplowGreen at 07:40, 10th July 2026
 
I guess the GWR masterplan of shove everyone to the Elizabeth Line and forget about them wasn’t so full proof after all.

The Elizabeth Line is a huge "Get out of Jail Free" card for GWR in this context - what on Earth would they have done if it wasn't there to save their bacon?


Re: OTD: 9 July 1856 - Nikola Tesla born (except he is recorded as born on 10th)
In "Railway History and related topics" [376874/32213/55]
Posted by Oxonhutch at 07:13, 10th July 2026
Already liked by Western Pathfinder, Hal
 
... the Weber (Wb) is the standard SI unit of magnetic flux.

.. and also the calorific values of barbeques ! 

Re: OTD: 9 July 1856 - Nikola Tesla born (except he is recorded as born on 10th)
In "Railway History and related topics" [376873/32213/55]
Posted by Electric train at 06:51, 10th July 2026
Already liked by Mark A
 
With the SI unit for magnetic flux density (or magnetic field strength)named after him, the Tesla (symbol: \(T\). It is defined as one Weber per square metre, the Weber (Wb) is the standard SI unit of magnetic flux.

The 'war of the currents' of the 1880's is a fascinating story

Re: Swindon <-> Westbury service updates and amendments, ongoing discussion - 2026
In "TransWilts line - Swindon, Chippenham, Melksham, Trowbridge, Westbury, Salisbury" [376872/31359/18]
Posted by grahame at 06:20, 10th July 2026
Already liked by Mark A
 
https://www.wiltshiretimes.co.uk/news/26268279.train-delays-due-broken-train-near-swindon/

Picture ... of an IET.   I still wonder if - in a parallel universe - the hourly London (Paddington) to Cheltenham Spa train would load to 10 carriages, dividing at Swindon with 5 (first portion) going forward alternately to Cheltenham Spa via Gloucester and to Gloucester via Cheltenham Spa, and 5 going forward via Trowbridge, Westbury, Frome, Yeovil and Dorchester to Weymouth.

Re: Jude Bellingham station to keep name until Monday
In "The Lighter Side" [376871/32209/30]
Posted by infoman at 04:32, 10th July 2026
 
Slightly off topic,I can recall Walsall being adjusted to Warsaw on some football web pages.

OTD: 9 July 1856 - Nikola Tesla born (except he is recorded as born on 10th)
In "Railway History and related topics" [376870/32213/55]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 23:48, 9th July 2026
 
Nikola Tesla was born on July 10, 1856, in the village of Smiljan (part of the Austrian Empire at the time, which is located in modern-day Croatia). Because he was born during a severe lightning storm on the night between July 9 and July 10, his family often celebrated his birth on the 10th, which became his officially recorded birth date.

Nikola Tesla (10 July 1856 – 7 January 1943) was a Serbian-American engineer, futurist, and inventor. He is known for his contributions to the design of the modern alternating current (AC) electricity supply system.

For further details, see Wikipedia.


Re: South Western Railways Waterloo - Bristol services axed
In "South Western services" [376869/25368/42]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 23:12, 9th July 2026
Already liked by Mark A
 
From the BBC:

Town fighting to restore direct trains to London


John Baxter, Brian Mathew MP, Sam Blackwell and Mark Annand want to see the route to London reinstated - Image © Brian Mathew MP

People have urged transport bosses to reinstate train services between a west Wiltshire town and London.

Passengers had previously been able to travel from Bradford-on-Avon to London Waterloo until the route, which went via Salisbury, was axed in 2021.

A consultation has now been launched by South Western Railway (SWR) to ask people what they would like to see changed about current services; a development which has heartened campaigners.

Sam Blackwell, mayor of Bradford-on-Avon, told Radio Wiltshire. "It is encouraging. They are taking ideas and trying to understand what changes passengers want from the timetable."

A spokesperson for SWR and Network Rail Wessex said "all feedback" is welcomed as part of a "timetable refresh".

Blackwell is among those who have backed West Wiltshire Rail User Group's campaign to restore direct train services between Bradford-on-Avon and the capital. The group says bringing the services back would make journeys easier, especially for older people and those with mobility needs, while supporting local businesses, tourism and sustainable travel.

Blackwell continued: "We currently have a regular service which goes down to Salisbury, stops there and then comes back. There is also an SWR existing service which goes from Salisbury to London Waterloo. Part of this proposal would ask the rail operators to look at joining those services up."

The mayor said reinstating the route would also benefit other stations such as Trowbridge and Keynsham.

Graham Ellis, a transport campaigner based in Melksham, said he believed there would not be large costs associated with getting the service up and running again. He added: "There is a train which runs from Bristol to Salisbury and we're simply saying connect that up with the train from Salisbury to London. Sure there is timetable planning and likely consultation costs, but we aren't looking for any extra trains."

Meanwhile, Wiltshire Council has said it would "strongly welcome" the introduction of a direct service between west Wiltshire and London.

Martin Smith, cabinet member for highways, said: "We have already committed to promoting new railway stations at Devizes, Corsham and Wilton, as well as a new platform at Westbury, and will continue to work closely with local partners, Network Rail, the Department for Transport and train operators to secure better rail services and strengthen connectivity across Wiltshire."

Brian Mathew, MP for Melksham and Devizes, said he "fully supports" reinstating the service. "Restoring through trains would be a practical and cost-effective step to improve access to jobs and education, support local tourism and deliver a more connected railway for passengers," he added.

A SWR spokesperson every suggestion will be carefully reviewed as we balance enhancing connectivity and meeting demand. "Responses will be provided through the formal consultation process at the appropriate time," they added.


Re: Jude Bellingham station to keep name until Monday
In "The Lighter Side" [376868/32209/30]
Posted by Merthyr Imp at 22:53, 9th July 2026
 
This was at York on the day of the semi-final in 2018:


Re: The Cheddar Valley Lost Railway - the 'Strawberry Line' from Yatton to Cheddar and beyond
In "Railway History and related topics" [376867/444/55]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 21:56, 9th July 2026
Already liked by Mark A
 
An update, from the BBC:

Railway route named as one of UK's favourite paths


Fletcher said he is delighted by the nomination - Image © Daniel Mumby

A pathway that follows an old railway route linking the coast with a hilly landscape has been named as one of Britain's favourite paths.

The Strawberry Line, which runs between Yatton in North Somerset and Cheddar, has been nominated as one of eight routes in walking charity Ramblers' annual competition.

Public voting has now opened and Britain's Favourite Path 2026 will be announced later this year.

Mick Fletcher, the chair of the Strawberry Line Society, said he was "absolutely delighted" to get the nomination, adding the path was in "good company".

Fletcher and his team have been working for years to extend the traffic-free route which will eventually run uninterrupted to Shepton Mallet through the Mendip Hills. He described the nomination as a "feather in our cap".

"I feel it reflects some of the hard work people have done to bring the path into being and to keep it as beautiful as it is," he added. He also said he believes the recognition will appeal to decision makers to show its value.

The path was nominated by Amanda Jane Baldwin, who lives in the village of Winscombe and described the route as "stunning". She added: "I moved to Winscombe more than seven years ago and this path has been trod by myself more times than I can count. It's accessible in all weathers, it goes on for miles, it's an absolute pleasure to walk on. It's beautiful and I appreciate the nature all around me while on the path."

The walking and cycling route follows much of the old Cheddar Valley Railway, which closed in 1963 as part of the Beeching cuts.

The Strawberry Line Society has been working with Somerset Council and local landowners to deliver the remaining sections of the path – with the council announcing in early-April that £730,000 would be provided towards this and other rural routes over the next two years.

A further £30,000 for smaller-scale improvements to the route was provided in early-June by the management team of the Mendip Hills National Landscape (formerly area of outstanding natural beauty, or AONB).

Other routes nominated include Buttermere Circular Path in Cumbria, Hangleton to Devil's Dyke Path, Sussex, and Holy Island Causeway Path, Northumberland.


I have remarked on it before, but the BBC are wrong in stating, "A pathway that follows an old railway route linking the coast with a hilly landscape ...".  Yatton is not on the coast: Clevedon is, but that branch line from Yatton was never part of the Strawberry Line. 


Re: Andy Burnham elected to parliament, with a strong transport reputation
In "Looking forward - the next 2, 5, 10 and 20 years" [376866/32149/40]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 20:59, 9th July 2026
 
... and wonders what would happen if he failed to get trades union support ...

I can't see that happening: even the RMT support Andy Burnham.  See their press release, at https://www.rmt.org.uk/news/rmt-responds-to-keir-starmer-announcing-resignation-timetable/ 


Re: Swindon <-> Westbury service updates and amendments, ongoing discussion - 2026
In "TransWilts line - Swindon, Chippenham, Melksham, Trowbridge, Westbury, Salisbury" [376865/31359/18]
Posted by bobm at 20:28, 9th July 2026
 
The unit doing the Bedwyn shuttle has expired now. 

Re: Swindon <-> Westbury service updates and amendments, ongoing discussion - 2026
In "TransWilts line - Swindon, Chippenham, Melksham, Trowbridge, Westbury, Salisbury" [376864/31359/18]
Posted by bobm at 20:27, 9th July 2026
 
There is a programme to improve the air cooling in the cabs of some of the units - not sure if it is the turbos or the 158s or both.

It will take 12 months to complete and it will probably still struggle on the hottest day as it can only reduce the temperature by about 7 degrees.

In the meantime crew are being asked to lower blinds and leave windows open when units are laying over between trips to try to reduce the greenhouse effect. 

 
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