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The information on Journeycheck and National Rail has been a bit vague about the problem. Originally points failure "east of Bath" and then "near Bradford on Avon".
The last trains * through Bradford Jn seem to have been:
Swindon-Westbury passing at 09:16
Bristol-Warminster passing at 09:24
The Portsmouth-Cardiff arrived Trowbridge 09:20 but was terminated there. (Where the stock went after that I have no idea).
* However, there was a 1Z73 Westbury-Bristol via Melksham and Chippenham that passed Bradford Jn at 10:56. It was booked to call only at Chippenham and Bath. This appears to have been the IET that formed the 1J73 Paddington-Westbury.
| Re: Can I Break My Journey at Weston-super-Mare? In "Fare's Fair" [377491/32282/4] Posted by Oxonhutch at 12:58, 28th July 2026 Already liked by Mark A | ![]() |
[snip] ... Note that if you travel outbound on a via Taunton ticket, you need to come back the same way - you can't drop back to the cheaper route via Trowbridge.
The Man in Seat 61 gives an example that appears to cover this with a journey between Reading and Exeter(?) for which there are only two routes given - via Taunton or via Honiton (there is no 'via any permitted route') - one is more expensive than the other - can't remember which. Having bought the most expensive route return, when travelling back via the cheaper route and not via that place on the ticket, he suggests that the passenger asks for an excess fare ticket to be issued, and the person issuing it would find that its price is zero.
| Re: West of England Line - Soil Moisture Deficit Update - 10 October 2025 In "South Western services" [377490/30889/42] Posted by ChrisB at 12:54, 28th July 2026 | ![]() |
Due next week, I understand. Timetable similar to last time, but speeded up by 30mins end-to-end, I'm hearing
| Re: West of England Line - Soil Moisture Deficit Update - 10 October 2025 In "South Western services" [377489/30889/42] Posted by Mark A at 12:52, 28th July 2026 | ![]() |
Announcement incoming: "Rail disruption fears (on the SWR main line) after track soil shrinkage"
Mark
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c0km34jdeezo
| Re: Rail passenger numbers and crowding published In "Across the West" [377488/32283/26] Posted by ChrisB at 12:28, 28th July 2026 Already liked by Mark A | ![]() |
Elizabeth Line?
Cancellations to services between Westbury and Swindon
Due to a points failure between Westbury and Swindon some lines are blocked.
Train services running through these stations will be cancelled. Disruption is expected until the end of the day.
Customer Advice
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What has happened?
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We've had reports of a points failure in the Bradford-on-Avon area. The line between Swindon to Westbury will be suspended until further notice.
12:17 Westbury to Swindon due 13:05
12:17 Westbury to Swindon due 13:05 will be cancelled.
This is due to a points failure.
12:17 Westbury to Swindon due 13:05 will be cancelled.
This is due to a points failure.
13:14 Swindon to Westbury due 13:57
13:14 Swindon to Westbury due 13:57 will be cancelled.
This is due to a points failure.
13:14 Swindon to Westbury due 13:57 will be cancelled.
This is due to a points failure.
14:18 Westbury to Swindon due 15:01
14:18 Westbury to Swindon due 15:01 will be cancelled.
This is due to a points failure.
14:18 Westbury to Swindon due 15:01 will be cancelled.
This is due to a points failure.
15:14 Swindon to Westbury due 15:58
15:14 Swindon to Westbury due 15:58 will be cancelled.
This is due to a points failure.
15:14 Swindon to Westbury due 15:58 will be cancelled.
This is due to a points failure.
| Re: Rail passenger numbers and crowding published In "Across the West" [377485/32283/26] Posted by eightonedee at 11:59, 28th July 2026 | ![]() |
Thanks John D.
One really striking feature of the figures (apart from the change in the list of stations in 2017) is how many passengers arrive in Reading. From 2017 (when it first appears) to the pandemic, it is third behind Birmingham (first) and Manchester (second) in the number of arrivals, but after the pandemic it overtook Manchester and even has more arrivals at peak times than Birmingham in 2025.
Was the completion of the final phase of the current Manchester tram system in 2020 partly responsible?
There seem to have been some issues with the display of GWR allocations today. There was a Taunton to London Paddington service this morning shown on the app and on RTT as 18 coaches.
09:45 Westbury to Swindon due 10:30
09:45 Westbury to Swindon due 10:30 will be cancelled.
This is due to a points failure.
09:45 Westbury to Swindon due 10:30 will be cancelled.
This is due to a points failure.
10:34 Swindon to Westbury due 11:21
10:34 Swindon to Westbury due 11:21 will be cancelled.
This is due to a points failure.
10:34 Swindon to Westbury due 11:21 will be cancelled.
This is due to a points failure.
Real time trains is showing trains at Bradford on Avon cancelled, for at least 3 hours after 09:18,
first train currently is 12:24 (Portsmouth-Cardiff) operated by a pathetic 2car 158 (3 trains worth of passengers on a 2car, GWR are mad)
09:45 Westbury to Swindon due 10:30
09:45 Westbury to Swindon due 10:30 will be cancelled.
This is due to a points failure.
09:45 Westbury to Swindon due 10:30 will be cancelled.
This is due to a points failure.
10:34 Swindon to Westbury due 11:21
10:34 Swindon to Westbury due 11:21 will be cancelled.
This is due to a points failure.
10:34 Swindon to Westbury due 11:21 will be cancelled.
This is due to a points failure.
| Rail passenger numbers and crowding published In "Across the West" [377481/32283/26] Posted by John D at 09:56, 28th July 2026 Already liked by Mark A, Witham Bobby, eightonedee, Fourbee | ![]() |
New figures just released (haven't read them all yet)
But have spotted in section 5.3 that Bristol has highest PiXC (passengers in excess of capacity)
Rather proves Bristol rail in peaks is struggling, and so far this year not really done anything about transferring in extra stock
section 4.2 says peak passenger numbers at Paddington grew 6% in a year, 7% increase in off peak in a year
Section 5.4 has the busiest services (into cities when surveyed, so could excludes things like Portsmouth-Cardiff when 2coach set is used), South West trains has 4 of 10. The third busiest nationally is a Bridgend to Rhymney train !
Section 6 says 13% of long distance services are in excess of capacity
https://www.gov.uk/government/statistics/rail-passenger-numbers-and-crowding-on-weekdays-in-major-cities-in-england-and-wales-2025/rail-passenger-numbers-and-crowding-on-weekdays-in-major-cities-in-england-and-wales-2025
| Re: Can I Break My Journey at Weston-super-Mare? In "Fare's Fair" [377480/32282/4] Posted by Mark A at 07:39, 28th July 2026 | ![]() |
An off-peak return from Pewsey to Weston-Super-Mare costs an eye-watering £103.60
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Not as cheap as going via Bristol, but I note that the following fares for Newbury-WSM via Taunton are available:
Off-peak return £82.80 valid 09:15 and later from Newbury.
Super Off-peak return: £63.00 valid 10:30 and later from Newbury,
Break of journey is allowed in both directions for these tickets. Perhaps someone would confirm that this permits the train to be boarded at Pewsey?
To my knowledge, yes, that's allowed.
There are no fewer than 3 off peak return fares Newbury to Weston-super-mare. Cheapest via Trowbridge, then via Taunton, then not via London. Note that if you travel outbound on a via Taunton ticket, you need to come back the same way - you can't drop back to the cheaper route via Trowbridge.
If the route taken on the outbound trip constrains the passenger as to the choice of route on the return, doesn't that rather conflicts with the following?
"And that fare should then be accepted by any route that will get you there next; it should not be the customers' concern than the rail industry sends them a long way round because there is no appropriate direct or connecting train"
Thinking of my occasional day trips from Bath to the likes of Stroud, Gloucester, or Cheltenham, it was the case that staff were relaxed about the route taken (via Bristol or Swindon) as it's either one or the other would provide the fastest service. Lately I recall that it's the ticketing system that's become more prescriptive while staff on the ground are still pragmatic about this.
Mark
07:45 Westbury to Swindon due 08:34
08:44 Swindon to Westbury due 09:26
09:45 Westbury to Swindon due 10:30
10:34 Swindon to Westbury due 11:21
12:17 Westbury to Swindon due 13:05
13:14 Swindon to Westbury due 13:57
14:18 Westbury to Swindon due 15:01
15:14 Swindon to Westbury due 15:58
16:23 Westbury to Swindon due 17:06
17:45 Swindon to Westbury due 18:26
18:37 Westbury to Swindon due 19:21
20:12 Swindon to Westbury due 20:56
21:16 Westbury to Swindon due 21:58
22:31 Swindon to Westbury due 23:12
Facilities on the 22:31 Swindon to Westbury due 23:12.
Disabled toilet facilities are not available.
This is due to a fault on this train.
08:44 Swindon to Westbury due 09:26
09:45 Westbury to Swindon due 10:30
10:34 Swindon to Westbury due 11:21
12:17 Westbury to Swindon due 13:05
13:14 Swindon to Westbury due 13:57
14:18 Westbury to Swindon due 15:01
15:14 Swindon to Westbury due 15:58
16:23 Westbury to Swindon due 17:06
17:45 Swindon to Westbury due 18:26
18:37 Westbury to Swindon due 19:21
20:12 Swindon to Westbury due 20:56
21:16 Westbury to Swindon due 21:58
22:31 Swindon to Westbury due 23:12
Facilities on the 22:31 Swindon to Westbury due 23:12.
Disabled toilet facilities are not available.
This is due to a fault on this train.
| Re: Can I Break My Journey at Weston-super-Mare? In "Fare's Fair" [377478/32282/4] Posted by grahame at 05:48, 28th July 2026 | ![]() |
An off-peak return from Pewsey to Weston-Super-Mare costs an eye-watering £103.60
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Not as cheap as going via Bristol, but I note that the following fares for Newbury-WSM via Taunton are available:
Off-peak return £82.80 valid 09:15 and later from Newbury.
Super Off-peak return: £63.00 valid 10:30 and later from Newbury,
Break of journey is allowed in both directions for these tickets. Perhaps someone would confirm that this permits the train to be boarded at Pewsey?
To my knowledge, yes, that's allowed.
There are no fewer than 3 off peak return fares Newbury to Weston-super-mare. Cheapest via Trowbridge, then via Taunton, then not via London. Note that if you travel outbound on a via Taunton ticket, you need to come back the same way - you can't drop back to the cheaper route via Trowbridge.
| Re: Interrail trip 4 - the journey continues In "Introductions and chat" [377477/32275/1] Posted by grahame at 05:37, 28th July 2026 | ![]() |
Completing the answers ...
1 Kolobrzeg
2 Vienenberg
3 Wernigerode Westerntor
4 Halle
5 Eisfelder Talmühle
6 Drei Annen Hohne
7 Berlin Hbf
8 Pasewalk
9 Hotel Altora dining room, Wernigerode
We took yesterday R&R - onward today ...
| Re: Can I Break My Journey at Weston-super-Mare? In "Fare's Fair" [377476/32282/4] Posted by Trowres at 00:02, 28th July 2026 | ![]() |
An off-peak return from Pewsey to Weston-Super-Mare costs an eye-watering £103.60
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Not as cheap as going via Bristol, but I note that the following fares for Newbury-WSM via Taunton are available:
Off-peak return £82.80 valid 09:15 and later from Newbury.
Super Off-peak return: £63.00 valid 10:30 and later from Newbury,
Break of journey is allowed in both directions for these tickets. Perhaps someone would confirm that this permits the train to be boarded at Pewsey?
| Re: Eurostar - merged posts, ongoing discussion topic In "The Wider Picture Overseas" [377475/26929/52] Posted by IndustryInsider at 23:34, 27th July 2026 Already liked by grahame, Mark A | ![]() |
Seems odd really when Antwerp is only 50km or so from Brussels and there are plentiful HS services along that route - perhaps testing the waters or trying to keep the competition at bay.
The Eurostar trains slow right down as they go through Antwerp Central anyway ... and remember that you loose a significant proportion of customers travelling from C to A if you make them changes at B - and not just crossplatform along the way.
...and it's a big old place. Just a smidge less than populations of Manchester, Sheffield, and Cornwall according to Wikipedia.
| Re: Eurostar - merged posts, ongoing discussion topic In "The Wider Picture Overseas" [377474/26929/52] Posted by grahame at 21:53, 27th July 2026 | ![]() |
Seems odd really when Antwerp is only 50km or so from Brussels and there are plentiful HS services along that route - perhaps testing the waters or trying to keep the competition at bay.
The Eurostar trains slow right down as they go through Antwerp Central anyway ... and remember that you loose a significant proportion of customers travelling from C to A if you make them changes at B - and not just crossplatform along the way.
| Re: Can I Break My Journey at Weston-super-Mare? In "Fare's Fair" [377473/32282/4] Posted by grahame at 21:49, 27th July 2026 Already liked by eightonedee, Mark A | ![]() |
All fares ought to be the same for recognised routings....based on one metric (miles per £1 maybe?)
Indeed - for the shortest routing. And that fare should then be accepted by any route that will get you there next; it should not be the customers' concern than the rail industry sends them a long way round because there is no appropriate direct or connecting train
| Re: Eurostar - merged posts, ongoing discussion topic In "The Wider Picture Overseas" [377472/26929/52] Posted by Noggin at 21:46, 27th July 2026 | ![]() |
Not sure they'll stop on the return though? (Are they going to add a full border post there?)
All the reports I have seen state that there will not be an Antwerp stop in the opposite direction and changing trains at Brussels, to complete immigration checks, will be required.
Indeed. Perhaps in a parallel universe, the UK would have been a part of the Schengen zone (and indeed remained in the EU) and travel from Belgium to the UK would have been as easy as crossing the German - Poland border which I think we have done 4 times in the last few days. I say "I think" - I know we did it twice on the train, but I think that the rail replacement bus from Goerlitz to Zittau took us from Germany into Poland and back into Germany again.
Seems odd really when Antwerp is only 50km or so from Brussels and there are plentiful HS services along that route - perhaps testing the waters or trying to keep the competition at bay.
| Re: Can I Break My Journey at Weston-super-Mare? In "Fare's Fair" [377471/32282/4] Posted by ChrisB at 21:22, 27th July 2026 | ![]() |
All fares ought to be the same for recognised routings....based on one metric (miles per £1 maybe?)
| Re: Can I Break My Journey at Weston-super-Mare? In "Fare's Fair" [377470/32282/4] Posted by grahame at 21:17, 27th July 2026 Already liked by hoover50 | ![]() |
well, it's done on shortest, not quickest....shortest always valid
In my view, it should be done on both, and earliest arrival is the most important. Customers are most concerned about how long a journey takes / how quickly that can get there, not how many miles the rail industry choses to take them to achieve that.
Here's another example - Chippenham to Southampton Central. The shortest route is taken by the 06:19 getting you there at 08:09 ... the next train via that route at 08:59 with a change and getting you to Southampton at 11:03.

Why should customer have to pay a higher fare for a longer distance because of the very thin services provided on the most direct line?
| Re: South Western Railways Waterloo - Bristol services axed In "South Western services" [377469/25368/42] Posted by ChrisB at 21:13, 27th July 2026 Already liked by Mark A | ![]() |
| Re: Can I Break My Journey at Weston-super-Mare? In "Fare's Fair" [377468/32282/4] Posted by ChrisB at 20:50, 27th July 2026 | ![]() |
well, it's done on shortest, not quickest....shortest always valid
| Re: Two East Midlands Railway trains collide near Bedford, 19th June 2026 In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [377467/32151/51] Posted by stuving at 19:59, 27th July 2026 | ![]() |
it's been suggested that Will Rogers' sudden exit may be connected with the statements from EMR in the last couple of weeks blaming their service reductions on Hitachi's Class 810 trains. First reported 17th July and in broader terms 21st July (both from the BBC).
East Midlands Railway (EMR) has released more details about the problems with its fleet of trains which prompted it to reduce services.
Last week, the company said reliability and maintenance issues with the new Aurora (Class 810) trains - made by Hitachi Rail - were to blame.
Now EMR has outlined "challenges" with both the 810s and the older Class 222s, affecting the toilets, air conditioning and catering equipment.
It added that the Class 222 trains had also required "additional maintenance support to accommodate increased running and operational requirements".
The operator first introduced the Aurora trains into passenger service in December, after what EMR said was a three-year delay.
Several Intercity services, which run to and from London St Pancras, have been cancelled because of problems with the new fleet, while other services will have fewer carriages.
Will Rogers, managing director of EMR, said the performance of the Class 810 fleet had "fallen below the levels we and our customers expect", and that the timetable change was "necessary"...
Last week, the company said reliability and maintenance issues with the new Aurora (Class 810) trains - made by Hitachi Rail - were to blame.
Now EMR has outlined "challenges" with both the 810s and the older Class 222s, affecting the toilets, air conditioning and catering equipment.
It added that the Class 222 trains had also required "additional maintenance support to accommodate increased running and operational requirements".
The operator first introduced the Aurora trains into passenger service in December, after what EMR said was a three-year delay.
Several Intercity services, which run to and from London St Pancras, have been cancelled because of problems with the new fleet, while other services will have fewer carriages.
Will Rogers, managing director of EMR, said the performance of the Class 810 fleet had "fallen below the levels we and our customers expect", and that the timetable change was "necessary"...
Is that speaking out of turn? Or he might have not jumped through all the hoops required by EMR's management contract with DfT before issuing it.
| Re: Can I Break My Journey at Weston-super-Mare? In "Fare's Fair" [377466/32282/4] Posted by grahame at 19:40, 27th July 2026 Already liked by Mark A | ![]() |
Interestingly, this is what from my customer focused journey planner suggests, Pewsey to Bristol Temple Meads.

Most of those are "change at Westbury" but the 18:00 is change at Taunton.
My personal view as a rail passenger is that if I turn up at station "A" (or "P") and want to get to station "B" as early as possible, I should be allowed to use any reasonable route, where any reasonable route includes the one that will get you there earliest, no matter where I may need to change along the way.
This is not just an issue with Pewsey -> Bristol Temple Mead ... I can find lots of other examples.
| Re: Can I Break My Journey at Weston-super-Mare? In "Fare's Fair" [377465/32282/4] Posted by hoover50 at 19:15, 27th July 2026 | ![]() |
Pewsey to Bristol Temple Meads via Taunton IS a mapped route in the Routeing Guide. However it fails the 'fare check' rule meaning it isn't a permitted route.
The fare from Pewsey to Taunton is more expensive than the fare from Pewsey to Bristol Temple Meads. This rules out using the Pewsey to Bristol TM ticket via Taunton.
OK, many thanks for the confirmation and clear explanation. The fare from Pewsey to Taunton is more expensive than the fare from Pewsey to Bristol Temple Meads. This rules out using the Pewsey to Bristol TM ticket via Taunton.
Looks like going via Bristol Temple Meads and splitting the tickets at Bristol Temple Meads is the best way of getting the cheapest fare.
| Re: Can I Break My Journey at Weston-super-Mare? In "Fare's Fair" [377464/32282/4] Posted by JayMac at 17:34, 27th July 2026 Already liked by grahame, hoover50 | ![]() |
Pewsey to Bristol Temple Meads via Taunton IS a mapped route in the Routeing Guide. However it fails the 'fare check' rule meaning it isn't a permitted route.
The fare from Pewsey to Taunton is more expensive than the fare from Pewsey to Bristol Temple Meads. This rules out using the Pewsey to Bristol TM ticket via Taunton.
| Re: Station fire at Paignton. Footbridge? In "Shorter journeys in Devon - Central, North and South" [377463/32262/24] Posted by REVUpminster at 17:27, 27th July 2026 | ![]() |
The station is expected to open tomorrow. The car park is closed today, but after it already filled up. Access will be via the car park, as it is during the air-show, and a portacabin ticket office is being brought down (forgot where the chap said it was coming from) although might not be open tomorrow.
The trains are going to pull up the far end of platform.














