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Commuters / General Traffic v Heritage v Preservation - FT Article
In "Media about railways, and other means of transport" [378694/32412/49]
Posted by grahame at 15:37, 25th August 2026
 
From the Financial Times

Railway enthusiasts split over plan to restore train services in rural areas

Some are hopeful upgraded tracks will preserve steam engine rides, but others fear they will morph into commuter services

Plans to reintroduce train services to rural English towns using heritage lines have split railway enthusiasts, with some hopeful that restored tracks will preserve steam engine rides and others fearful they will be overrun by commuters. ....


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Re: Weather updates from across the UK and implications for infrastructure - 2026
In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [378693/31355/51]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 15:23, 25th August 2026
 
Another update, from the BBC:

Yellow weather warnings issued as thunderstorms and flooding forecast

Yellow weather warnings have been issued by the Met Office as heavy rain and thunderstorms are forecast to break out over parts of the UK later this week.

The warnings span Wednesday and Thursday and include parts of east Wales, the Midlands, northern England, East Anglia and southern England - including London.

It is likely to be the one of the most widespread outbreaks of heavy rain across southern and central parts of the UK this summer.

While good news for regions plagued by drought, significant accumulations could lead to flash flooding where the ground is too dry and hard to absorb the downpours. Lightning, large hail and gusty winds are also possible.

The storms, which will drift out of France and move northwards, will be sparked as warm and humid air sets in from the south.

Initially, a few showers are likely to reach Cornwall and the West Country during Tuesday evening, but heavier downpours bringing thunder and lightning are likely to hit later in the night.

The first band of heavy showers may reach the southeast coast of England around midnight, and then cross Greater London before moving northwards into the home counties and East Anglia.



The first yellow weather warning is set to come into force at 03:00 BST on Wednesday and last until 22:00 BST.

Though not all locations in the warning area will experience thunderstorms, flooding is possible in those that do, with 20-30mm of rain possible in less than an hour.  The hardest hit locations could see up to 40-50mm in two to three hours.

Flash flooding is possible in areas where the ground is dry and very hard, making it difficult for rainfall to be absorbed. The most intense downpours could also bring large hail with gusty winds.

During the morning on Wednesday, the storms may spread further north into the Midlands and the Peak District but the forecast becomes less certain in terms of location and intensity.

The storms and downpours which will have brought flash flooding and hail are forecast to continue into Thursday.

A second weather warning for thunderstorms will come into force at 06:00 BST and last until 22:00 BST.  Some may become slow moving across the Midlands, Wales and Northern England leading to more flash flooding.



Many areas could see 20-30mm of rain in just three hours, with up to 50mm possible in some places.  According to the Met Office, there is also a small chance of considerably higher totals, particularly over east-facing higher ground, where more than 75mm could fall within 12 hours.  Lightning may be frequent and hail of around 1-2cm could fall.

(BBC article continues)


Re: Flying Scotsman - passing thru Westbury to Swindon - 17th & 18th October 2026
In "TransWilts line - Swindon, Chippenham, Melksham, Trowbridge, Westbury, Salisbury" [378692/32411/18]
Posted by JohnM at 15:19, 25th August 2026
 
Last time the "Flying Scotsman" came through Melksham
From the amount of track/buildings there I'm guessing that wasn't recently

Re: Gatwick Airport - facilities, improvements and incidents - merged posts, ongoing discussion
In "Buses and other ways to travel" [378691/20849/5]
Posted by Mark A at 15:06, 25th August 2026
 
OK, I was being a bit tongue in cheek there. Online reviews don't provide so much security here as a rogue operator can and does quickly change the name of the business. A simple message that airports could put out to travellers is 'If you book parking, ensure the operator has signed up to Parkmark'. Perhaps they do. Be good if there was a way to require price comparison websites to provide that information but I really am being a sweet summer child on that front...

Re: UK population exceeds 60 million - BBC report, 24th August 2006
In "Campaigns for new and improved services" [378690/32402/28]
Posted by JayMac at 14:17, 25th August 2026
 
I wonder how many/what % of that number in 1966 were UK born, compared to today's figure.
Why's that matter?

I think the demographics are as of much interest as the headline numbers,  to help understand how society has changed.

Society is affected by where one was born is it? I'm German born. What does that mean for UK society?

Flying Scotsman - passing thru Westbury to Swindon - 17th & 18th October 2026
In "TransWilts line - Swindon, Chippenham, Melksham, Trowbridge, Westbury, Salisbury" [378689/32411/18]
Posted by grahame at 12:56, 25th August 2026
Already liked by GBM, JohnM
 
https://www.railwaymuseum.org.uk/whats-on/flying-scotsman-didcot-newbury

Enjoy the views of Oxfordshire and Wiltshire from Didcot Parkway this October on board the Legendary Journeys with Flying Scotsman.

Experience restored vintage coaches travelling at main line speeds behind the world famous Flying Scotsman locomotive on a tour of over 130 miles around Oxfordshire and Wiltshire from Didcot. Pass through the market town of Chippenham before arriving at Newbury Racecourse Station, where there will be a pause to stretch your legs and see the magnificent locomotive. The route will take in views of the North Wessex Downs National Landscape alongside the Kennet & Avon Canal before returning to Didcot via Swindon.

There is a morning journey departing at 11.00 and an afternoon trip at departing at 15.25.

Each booking is helping to keep this national icon of steam heritage operating.

https://www.foxandedwards.com/events/view/legendary-journey-with-flying-scotsman-departs-didcot-mainline-tour

Saturday 17th & Sunday 18th October 2026

Flying Scotsman is steaming through the North Wessex Downs National Landcape this October, with mainline railtours departing from Didcot Parkway, a town which has become synonymous with railway preservation, to Newbury Racecourse Station.

Embark upon a 133 mile return journey through Oxfordshire and Wiltshire hauled by the legendary Flying Scotsman locomotive. We'll travel via the outskirts of Reading, a town rich in railway history from the opening of the Great Western line to London in 1840 right through to the modern Elizabeth Line which opened in 2022,

We'll then arrive at Newbury Racecourse Station, a town famous for it's adjacent racecourse. The train will stop here for 30 minutes allowing a leg stretch and to view the famous locomotive.

Finally, we'll embark on the main leg of our journey. Our route will take us through the lovely landscape of the North Wessex Downs National Landscape, running alongside the pretty Kennet & Avon Canal for some distance and the nearby Westbury white horse.  We'll pass through Chippenham and Swindon, another town steeped in railway history through its railway works which once employed 14,000 people before heading back to Didcot Parkway.

Each booking is helping to keep this national icon of steam heritage operating.

Approximate Itinerary

Departs Didcot at approx 11:00, arriving at Newbury Racecourse approx 11:45. Departing Newbury Racecourse at 12:15, arriving back at Didcot approx 15:05
Departs Didcot at approx 15:25, arriving at Newbury Racecourse approx 16:30. Departing Newbury Racecourse at 16:40, arriving back at Didcot approx 19:20
Tour distance: approximately 133 miles return.



Last time the "Flying Scotsman" came through Melksham


Re: Corsham Station reopening
In "Campaigns for new and improved services" [378688/226/28]
Posted by grahame at 12:26, 25th August 2026
 
What service pattern is there that could call there?

Good question - and one to which the answer may be different to it was a couple of years ago - the (to become hourly?) service from Bristol Temple Meads to Oxford, perhaps?   

In HST days, a stop on the London to Bristol and beyond service at Corsham was ruled out because of the effect on the long distance traffic of the lengthened schedule for those runs.  With the coming of the automatic doors which reduce station time, and with the coming of the IETs which have a better acceleration profie, that could change.  If the IETs were able to restart from Corsham under electric power, that would help further and if 387s could then be used from London as they are to Swindon, Bristol Parkway and Cardiff, there is a further opportunity.

Hop on the next available train (HOTNAT)
In "The Wider Picture Overseas" [378687/32410/52]
Posted by grahame at 12:19, 25th August 2026
 
Hop on the next available train (HOTNAT)

https://www.railteam.eu/en/services-on-your-journey/hop-on-the-next-available-train-hotnat/

HOTNAT1 allows travellers to take the next available high-speed service leaving from the same transit station as originally planned, when a delay on or cancellation of the inbound Railteam member’s high-speed service prevents them from making their originally-planned connection.

This service is free of charge and is subject to the following conditions. The missed connection must be between two high-speed trains of the Railteam alliance. HOTNAT is available in Railteam hubs and larger connecting stations. HOTNAT only applies at the transit station where the passenger originally planned to change trains and in case of train delays and train cancellations. The approval of HOTNAT is subject to the available capacity on board each train. Seats are not guaranteed. If eligible, please report to the service staff at the international ticket/service counter for delay confirmation and HOTNAT authorization.

1 Available in Paris at Paris Nord, Paris Est, Paris Gare de Lyon and Paris Montparnasse stations. They are counted as a single station for this service.

For connecting between Eurostar and DB FV in Germany, HOTNAT is only available at Cologne main station.


Re: Corsham Station reopening
In "Campaigns for new and improved services" [378686/226/28]
Posted by IndustryInsider at 12:12, 25th August 2026
 
What service pattern is there that could call there?

Re: Gatwick Airport - facilities, improvements and incidents - merged posts, ongoing discussion
In "Buses and other ways to travel" [378685/20849/5]
Posted by grahame at 11:30, 25th August 2026
 
At least it's only at one airport - Gatwick - and other other airports don't see criminal behaviour in connection with parking services.

Not so sure, Mark - I have seen negative comment about some of the lower cost parking offers at Bristol Airport, for example, though I am not in a position to say whether that extends to "criminal behaviour" issues.   We have some issues in this country with security of transport vehicles left unattended - I can pick up a number of heritage railways subjected to mindless vandalism, a bus depot or two, and tagging of vehicles that are parked up.   That is not to suggest any criminal behaviour from operators / rather than they may have priced their offering down so that they don't always provide robust protection against it.

Re: Article: 'What's wrong with an empty bus'
In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [378684/32404/51]
Posted by GBM at 11:29, 25th August 2026
 
An empty bus makes an extremely happy driver!

And if seen on a permanent basis all the time on a diagram leads to an unemployed one!
I believe there is a national shortage of PCV and HGV drivers!
Our only empty ones were generally the very early morning and late evening ones on subsidised routes.

Re: Gatwick Airport - facilities, improvements and incidents - merged posts, ongoing discussion
In "Buses and other ways to travel" [378683/20849/5]
Posted by GBM at 11:27, 25th August 2026
 
At least it's only at one airport - Gatwick - and other other airports don't see criminal behaviour in connection with parking services.
Wasn't there a very recent topic (from the BBC) about Stansted Airport rogue parking cowboys?

Ah yes -
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cn8ngxw5195o

(Modified to find said topic)

Gartell light railway to close
In "Heritage railways, Railtours, buses, canals, steamships and other public transport based attractions" [378682/32409/47]
Posted by Mark A at 10:46, 25th August 2026
 
2026 will be the last year it runs.

https://newglr.weebly.com/

Sheffield Supertram: mineshaft beneath track
In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [378681/32408/51]
Posted by Mark A at 10:41, 25th August 2026

Re: Gatwick Airport - facilities, improvements and incidents - merged posts, ongoing discussion
In "Buses and other ways to travel" [378680/20849/5]
Posted by Mark A at 10:14, 25th August 2026
 
At least it's only at one airport - Gatwick - and other other airports don't see criminal behaviour in connection with parking services.

Re: Westbury -> Warminster -> Salisbury -> Waterloo through train not running
In "South Western services" [378679/32407/42]
Posted by Mark A at 10:09, 25th August 2026
 
Thanks for this - I head for that train occasionally as it's less disruptive to change trains close to the start of a trip rather than in the middle, and sometimes had good availability of advance fares. That's another I'll strike off the list. :-(

Westbury -> Warminster -> Salisbury -> Waterloo through train not running
In "South Western services" [378678/32407/42]
Posted by grahame at 09:36, 25th August 2026
 
South Western Railways are not running the 07:42 through service from Westbury (07:50 from Warminster) to London (Waterloo) at the moment.  The train still runs as far as Salisbury but it's terminating there at 08:11 and another train leaves at 08:15 for London.  The connection is too tight to be "official" and so the journey planners do't offer it ... the journey is possible via Salibury, officially, by leaving Westbury 45 minutes earlier or leaving  Salisbury 30 minutes later.

Research suggests that the train via Warminster is terminating at Salisbury because the train that it used to couple up with via Gillingham now starts back at Exeter and is longer (temporary WoE timetable), and that the loss of the through morning train from some West Wilts stations to Waterloo is a consequence - same number of carriages as before into Waterloo.

I am open to opinions as to whether this change is an unplanned side effect of the temporary timetable, or if it was appreciated that the connection / travel opportunity even with a change was being withdrawn by SWR when they drew up the temporary timetable.

Re: Gatwick Airport - facilities, improvements and incidents - merged posts, ongoing discussion
In "Buses and other ways to travel" [378677/20849/5]
Posted by ChrisB at 09:02, 25th August 2026
 
Would they kick out an airline who fly perfectly legally but whose customer service is sh1t?

I think not.....caveat emptor, surely?

Re: Article: 'What's wrong with an empty bus'
In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [378676/32404/51]
Posted by Mark A at 09:01, 25th August 2026
 
Ah, it's the diagram that ends up unemployed: the bus can up sticks.

Re: Article: 'What's wrong with an empty bus'
In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [378675/32404/51]
Posted by grahame at 08:48, 25th August 2026
 
An empty bus makes an extremely happy driver!

And if seen on a permanent basis all the time on a diagram leads to an unemployed one!

Re: UK population exceeds 60 million - BBC report, 24th August 2006
In "Campaigns for new and improved services" [378674/32402/28]
Posted by grahame at 08:47, 25th August 2026
Already liked by GBM
 

I wonder how many/what % of that number in 1966 were UK born, compared to today's figure.

Why's that matter?

I think the demographics are as of much interest as the headline numbers,  to help understand how society has changed.

Indeed - though we need to be very careful about which demographics we look at and how we see them in balance.

Personal declaration (and extrapolating from that) - I was born in England, my wife was born on a different continent, and I'm not sure that makes any significant difference to us / our travel habits at a "micro" level.   but ...
1. There used to be another travel element - far more longer distance journeys to Lisa's home country.
2. There's also the element that she moved here without an inherited / upbringing in the UK which leads to a lack of immediate local resources onto which to build a new life, and that can effect where people live for many years forward.
3. It requires a bravery (or deparateness in other cases) to move intercontinental, and that in itself brings about a different balance of people.

Re: Article: 'What's wrong with an empty bus'
In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [378673/32404/51]
Posted by GBM at 08:40, 25th August 2026
 
An empty bus makes an extremely happy driver!

Re: Gatwick Airport - facilities, improvements and incidents - merged posts, ongoing discussion
In "Buses and other ways to travel" [378672/20849/5]
Posted by Mark A at 22:55, 24th August 2026
 
Sequential articles from the BBC. "...rogue airport parking firms."

Caveat emptor and all that but even so...

Are the airport authorities a bit complacent about this, seeing that their premises has hosted one end of this operation for at least three years? For a start could they work to expel any operation that's not Parkmark-accredited?

2024: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c72pd5ezyz5o

2025: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cgq9j19w7wwo

Re: Gatwick Airport - facilities, improvements and incidents - merged posts, ongoing discussion
In "Buses and other ways to travel" [378671/20849/5]
Posted by Mark A at 22:21, 24th August 2026
 
Trustpilot reviews. People of a nervous disposition may prefer not to read them.

The site's buried in a clearing in a laurel-infested wood east of Crawley - for good measure quite close to the old Crawley - East Grinstead line and with a high voltage electricity line carried on transmission towers.

https://uk.trustpilot.com/review/sapphireparking.co.uk

Re: Pleasure boats, the Thames, and that tie-in with the railways
In "Railway History and related topics" [378670/32405/55]
Posted by Oxonhutch at 22:04, 24th August 2026
Already liked by Mark A, Chris from Nailsea
 
On the Salters's good ship 'Reading' - my daughter's 21st, an evening with food and music - Wallingford - Pangbourne - Wallingford. Wonderful trip, full of memories.

Re: Pleasure boats, the Thames, and that tie-in with the railways
In "Railway History and related topics" [378669/32405/55]
Posted by TonyN at 21:50, 24th August 2026
Already liked by Mark A
 
Over about 5 years in the early 2000s I Travelled from Oxford to Staines on Salters public trips. and also from Runnymede to Hampton court on an ex Salters boat operated by French Brothers.

Staines-Windsor (also did the Windsor-Runnymede bit in 1967 on a school trip)
Marlow-Windsor
Marlow-Henley
Henley-Reading
Reading-Wallingford
Wallingford-Abingdon (This was on a modern plastic boat operated by Salters Due to scaffolding partly blocking the bridge arch at Clifton Hampton. I think it was the last trip as the Captain was doing his last trip before retiring and it was the end of the season)
Abingdon-Oxford (The only public point to point trip Salters still Run)

Re: Pleasure boats, the Thames, and that tie-in with the railways
In "Railway History and related topics" [378668/32405/55]
Posted by eightonedee at 21:30, 24th August 2026
 
Reading this made me suddenly realise- I've not seen any Salters' "steamers" this year on our stretch of the Thames through the Goring Gap. Checking their website, it seems that they no longer run their Wallingford- Reading route. But on reflection, in recent years these often seemed poorly patronised. No longer any demand for this?

Re: Corsham Station reopening
In "Campaigns for new and improved services" [378667/226/28]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 21:15, 24th August 2026
 
If they can indeed get all of that business case together by November 2026, that will be impressive in itself. 

Re: UK population exceeds 60 million - BBC report, 24th August 2006
In "Campaigns for new and improved services" [378666/32402/28]
Posted by TaplowGreen at 21:09, 24th August 2026
Already liked by Chris from Nailsea
 
For the record, I was born in Devon, of native UK parents (through several generations, on both sides) in 1959.



CfN. 

That makes two of us! (Although in my case 1970!) 

 
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