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Re: 2024 - Service update and amendment log, Swindon <-> Westbury
Posted by grahame at 09:30, 21st November 2024
 
05:11 Gloucester to Southampton Central due 08:07
05:11 Gloucester to Southampton Central due 08:07 is being delayed at Swindon.
This is due to engineering works not being finished on time.

13 minutes late from Swindon, 9 minutes late from Chippenham, 2 minutes late from Salisbury to Southampton.

Re: De-icer and empty trains to tackle snow disruption, North West England - November 2024
Posted by ray951 at 08:52, 21st November 2024
 
Talking of snow, but in the South West:

Due to heavy snow between Crediton and Okehampton the line is blocked. Disruption is expected until 10:45 21/11.
Impact:
Train services between Exeter St Davids and Okehampton via Crediton will be cancelled.
Customer Advice:
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We are sorry for the disruption to your journey this morning.
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Heavy snow fall in the area between Crediton and Okehampton means we are currently unable to run trains along the line to Okehampton.
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You are advised not to attempt to travel along this route at this time. The snow is also affecting the roads in the area and we are currently unable to provide replacement road transport.
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We will update this message with more information when we have it.

Re: 0635 Salisbury - Worcester Foregate Str thru Melksham keeps running late
Posted by matth1j at 08:47, 21st November 2024
 
Lucky again this morning. Well, lucky it wasn't any worse...

Woke up early so decided to catch the 0632 Southampton service from Melksham, to get to Bristol via Trowbridge. Looked to be running fine when I left the house, but by the time I got to Melksham, it was delayed, meaning I'd miss the train I was planning on catching at Trowbridge.

Initially I thought I'd wait anyway, and catch the next train at Trowbridge. But I checked it, and it was also showing as 'delayed'.

So I kept walking and caught the 271 bus from Market Place, ending up in Bath in time to catch the Weston-super-Mare service I would have caught at Chippenham if I'd gone for the usual 0721 Melksham train. Although the 0721 was badly delayed; would have ended up hanging around until the 0802 (only slightly delayed). Hence some relief at not choosing the worst option

(The Weston-super-Mare service was only running 6 mins late.)

Re: lies, damned lines and ontimetrains
Posted by Timmer at 07:16, 21st November 2024
 
With the star over Melksham,we can be sure that it is indicating the beaded wise man from the east has arrived.
Only one question remains...where/who are the other two?
Ones in Swindon and the other in Nailsea, though the one in Nailsea doesn’t have a beard 

I’ll get my coat.

Re: North Cotswold Line delays and cancellations - 2024
Posted by Worcester_Passenger at 07:16, 21st November 2024
 
Wednesday November 20

The 'halts' train, 2E14 17:04 Didcot Parkway to Moreton-in-Marsh, and return, 2E16 18:51 Evesham to Oxford, cancelled "cancelled due to a problem with the traction equipment (MD)", according to RTT.

1W41 20:52 London Paddington to Great Malvern cancelled throughout "due to an issue with the train crew (TH)".

Re: 2024 - Service update and amendment log, Swindon <-> Westbury
Posted by TaplowGreen at 06:58, 21st November 2024
 
05:11 Gloucester to Southampton Central due 08:07
05:11 Gloucester to Southampton Central due 08:07 is being delayed at Swindon.
This is due to engineering works not being finished on time.

Re: De-icer and empty trains to tackle snow disruption, North West England - November 2024
Posted by Electric train at 06:37, 21st November 2024
 
Snow and ice cause a number of problem,
  • Points and switches freezing - this is counteracted by the use of electric point heaters, these have control systems that monitor cold and 'hot' rail and the humidity, in some locations in the UK there are driven snow sensors; most of these control units report back to Route / Regional monitoring system.
    Conductor rail ice - the use of de-icing trains, basically the same units as the RHTT but with a different deployment head and the use of a de-icer fluid, "ghost trains" which are EMU's run by the TOCs on behalf of NR are run normally at night but can also be during the day; there are some locations with electric conrail heating typically at platforms and certain signals.
    OLE - with freezing rain ice can build up on the contact wire which can damage pan heads, in the UK we don't have OLE heating systems unlike parts of Europe, the exception is HS1, NR will run "ghost trains" if the likely hood of ice on the OLE contact wire is a risk. Also heavy snow can build up on insulators and cause a flashover.
    Lineside equipment - driven snow and snow drifts can get into electrical / signalling equipment causing shorts often only found as the snow thaws
    Staff - it is just a general challenge for Operations, reactive and maintenance teams to get into work and get out to lineside equipment and for train crew get to booking on points

Re: 2024 - Service update and amendment log, Swindon <-> Westbury
Posted by grahame at 06:09, 21st November 2024
 
06:35 Salisbury to Worcester Foregate Street due 09:47

06:35 Salisbury to Worcester Foregate Street due 09:47 will be reinstated.
It will be started from Westbury.
It will no longer call at Salisbury and Warminster.
This is due to a shortage of train crew.

Re: De-icer and empty trains to tackle snow disruption, North West England - November 2024
Posted by grahame at 06:03, 21st November 2024
 
People sometimes ask "why do railway signals have the red light at the bottom, but road traffic lights have the red light at the top"

Modern railway signals have a single lens that changes colour, or two if they are in 4 aspect land, though I grant you that in places that time has stood still, and where a proper National Rail service is not provided too that's the case. There are still places with systems of wires and pulleys and rectangular board that are horizontal for stop, horizontal with a fishtail for caution, and either at 45 degrees or vertical for proceed at line speed.   

Snow was a problem with some of these earlier systems, as illustrated at Abbots Ripton on 21st January 1876.


Re: lies, damned lines and ontimetrains
Posted by chuffed at 03:38, 21st November 2024
 
With the star over Melksham,we can be sure that it is indicating the beaded wise man from the east has arrived.
Only one question remains...where/who are the other two?

Re: De-icer and empty trains to tackle snow disruption, North West England - November 2024
Posted by broadgage at 03:32, 21st November 2024
 
People sometimes ask "why do railway signals have the red light at the bottom, but road traffic lights have the red light at the top"

Answer=in railway signals, each coloured light has has a cowling above to shield it from direct sunlight as this could be misleading. Any build up of snow on this cowling can obstruct the view of the light above it. With the red stop light at the bottom, there is no cowling below it upon which snow can build up.
In such severe weather roads are often closed, so snow obstruction of road signals is less important. Of greater importance is that the red light should be seen over the top of any other vehicles closer to the signal. Having the red light at the top helps.

Re: Northern's train woes won't be fixed until 2027, rail operator warns
Posted by grahame at 23:27, 20th November 2024
 
It's tempting to be cynical and say that DfT, the Government, ORR and GBR may have no great incentive to address any matters in their control until the succeeding arrangements are in place so that they can demonstrate that the new order has achieved something?

Indeed - and that matter - and also the idea of GWR's parent First looking to maximise income over expenditure in the shorter term rather than acting as guardians for passengers and the future has also been raised.  But I have the indication that the GWR folks are rail at heart, will be TUPEd over, and don't want to cross over with such a record.

Re: Northern's train woes won't be fixed until 2027, rail operator warns
Posted by broadgage at 23:04, 20th November 2024
 
I was going to vote "after the war" but that option was not listed.

Re: lies, damned lines and ontimetrains
Posted by grahame at 22:11, 20th November 2024
 
two more interesting views




Re: lies, damned lines and ontimetrains
Posted by grahame at 21:39, 20th November 2024
 
I take it the star over Melksham shows Graham is in residence 

Love it - the stations whose stats I was looking at.   Other stars over Okehampton and Twyford which I made the centre of the universe for those maps.

Re: Northern's train woes won't be fixed until 2027, rail operator warns
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 21:34, 20th November 2024
 
I have voted - but I'm apparently in a significant minority. 

CfN. 

Re: Northern's train woes won't be fixed until 2027, rail operator warns
Posted by eightonedee at 21:30, 20th November 2024
 
Is the correct answer "Never" because the franchise/operating contract will end before all the issues GWR faces (Old Oak blockade, rolling stock shortage, employment issues, partial electrification, etc, etc) are resolved?

It's tempting to be cynical and say that DfT, the Government, ORR and GBR may have no great incentive to address any matters in their control until the succeeding arrangements are in place so that they can demonstrate that the new order has achieved something?

Re: Death of teenager on track between Weymouth and Dorchester, 23 March 2023
Posted by grahame at 21:29, 20th November 2024
 
From the Daily Mail

A mother has vowed to fight for justice for her 15-year-old daughter who was electrocuted on railway tracks, as the coroner says police failings may be to blame.

An inquest into the death of Roxy will be heard by a jury after the senior coroner said there was reason to suspect the acts or omissions of police were causative or contributory to her death.

Roxy died in the early hours of March 23, 2023 after she was electrocuted by the 750 volt third rail on the tracks near Weymouth train station.

Re: lies, damned lines and ontimetrains
Posted by Timmer at 21:28, 20th November 2024
 
I take it the star over Melksham shows Graham is in residence 

Re: Northern's train woes won't be fixed until 2027, rail operator warns
Posted by Timmer at 21:26, 20th November 2024
 
I guess GWR’s ‘current’ woes could be fixed this year if it and the government agree on operating a reduced but more robust timetable before the year’s out. GWR must know what they can and can’t realistically run. My gosh, they’ve got decades of experience of never running a full timetable, particularly at weekends to look back on. Long term fix you are looking at least two years away.

Re: Northern's train woes won't be fixed until 2027, rail operator warns
Posted by grahame at 21:20, 20th November 2024
 
Hmm. 

The poll is somewhat skewed, in that it's asking in 'this year'. Bearing in mind that we're already nearly into December of 'this year', there's clearly no way that's going to happen.

I'd suggest changing the first two options to, respectively, '2025', '2026' ... 

CfN. 

I *did* wonder ... but people have started to vote.   I'm thinking to leave it alone - unlike the other poll that's running at the moment, I'm not thinking that the outcome of this one will be triggering an email to GWR.

lies, damned lines and ontimetrains
Posted by grahame at 21:14, 20th November 2024
 
OnTimeTrains provides very interesting stats, but I was - err - surprised at their map



With the only green station in the WECA area being Pilning ...

What, perhaps, may have something to thing about is the general colour / ranking in different areas




Re: Northern's train woes won't be fixed until 2027, rail operator warns
Posted by Timmer at 21:11, 20th November 2024
 
This!

Speaking at the Rail North Committee on Wednesday (November 20), Northern's chief operating officer Matt Rice said the operator will need 'big timetable changes' to meet its target, suggesting there could be a reduction in services as soon as next month. He said: "Giving customers a predictable offering I think is more important than trying to give them something that might be an aspiration."

Christmas is fast approaching, and if the last few months are anything to go by GWR haven’t got a hope of being able to run the planned timetable over the Christmas and New Year period. It’s not too late to revise the timetable to give passengers more certainty.

I know, dream on…it won’t happen.

Re: Northern's train woes won't be fixed until 2027, rail operator warns
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 21:08, 20th November 2024
 
Hmm. 

The poll is somewhat skewed, in that it's asking in 'this year'. Bearing in mind that we're already nearly into December of 'this year', there's clearly no way that's going to happen.

I'd suggest changing the first two options to, respectively, '2025', '2026' ... 

CfN. 

Northern's train woes won't be fixed until 2027, rail operator warns
Posted by grahame at 20:17, 20th November 2024
 
From the Manchester Evening News

Northern's train woes won't be fixed until 2027, rail operator warns

Train cancellations have come down but rail bosses admit it's still 'not good enough' - and it will take as long as three years to fix

But bosses have warned that, even with this [union] agreement in place, Northern won't meet its 'ambitious' targets until 2027. It comes as the operator sets out its plan to cut cancellations to 2 per cent with 90 per cent of services arriving no more than three minutes late.

[snip]

Speaking at the Rail North Committee on Wednesday (November 20), Northern's chief operating officer Matt Rice said the operator will need 'big timetable changes' to meet its target, suggesting there could be a reduction in services as soon as next month. He said: "Giving customers a predictable offering I think is more important than trying to give them something that might be an aspiration."

Mr Rice told the committee, which is chaired by Greater Manchester mayor Andy Burnham, that if union members vote against a new deal relating to train conductors working on Sundays, the operator will aim to give passengers up to four weeks' notice about any changes to services over the Christmas period. It comes as Northern aims to notify passengers of cancellations further in advance.


 
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